• (cs) in reply to Oofy Prosser
    Oofy Prosser:
    The OP paints a perfect picture of constructive dismissal. Better hope the soon-to-be-ex-BA's law firm doesn't find this post, for they will have a field day with it.
    What exactly do you think they could do with it?

    The post is completely anonymized, there's no information whatsoever that could be used to identify the company or the person.

  • Joe (unregistered) in reply to ChiefCrazyTalk
    ChiefCrazyTalk:
    Joe:
    ChiefCrazyTalk:
    At my former company, BAs (including myself) were responsible for technical support and answering calls from (internal) users about "Why can't I log into the app" etc. That's why I left.

    Sorry, but despite what they called you, you were not a BA.

    For the rest of you, here's a definition from wikipedia:

    "A business analyst works as a liaison among stakeholders in order to elicit, analyze, communicate and validate requirements for changes to business processes, policies and information systems. The business analyst understands business problems and opportunities in the context of the requirements and recommends solutions that enable the organization to achieve its goals."

    It's actually pretty good work if you enjoy process engineering. Management tends to give BAs significant power to change things (great if you hate beauracracy) and the pay is nothing to laugh at. A BA can make very good money depending on the scope of what he oversees. In fact, for us geeks, you can even land a role whereby part of what you do would fall into the BA domain. Unlike being a code monkey, combining your IT skills with business skills as a highly technical BA is outsource-proof and will make you popular with the gold diggers.

    Funny, thats pretty much what my job description said. The reality was quite different.

    A lot of people have job descriptions that don't apply to what they do. It can be quite hilarious or quite sad at times. As for me, there was no pre-existing job title after my promotion. At that point, I picked whatever I wanted to say given the social situation.

  • Joe (unregistered) in reply to Oofy Prosser
    Oofy Prosser:
    The OP paints a perfect picture of constructive dismissal. Better hope the soon-to-be-ex-BA's law firm doesn't find this post, for they will have a field day with it.

    Constructive dismissal doesn't apply when you've broken the law and you got caught with your pants down trying to cover it up.

  • Oofy Prosser (unregistered) in reply to brazzy

    Anonymized, yes. I have no idea who the BA or the company might be, but the BA would clearly recognize himself and the situation from the details reported. Match the OP's comments to the disclosure you get in discovery and you can prove on balance of probability that it refers to the same incident.

    The BA may argue that he was demoted for the purpose of punishment or humiliation rather than receiving a fair and proper disciplinary review (hence constructive dismissal). The OP's statement is evidence to that effect.

  • (cs) in reply to Oofy Prosser
    Oofy Prosser:
    The BA may argue that he was demoted for the purpose of punishment or humiliation rather than receiving a fair and proper disciplinary review (hence constructive dismissal). The OP's statement is evidence to that effect.

    I am not a lawyer and don't play one on TV - but I would guess that since the OP's statement wouldn't carry a lot of weight as evidence. Since the OP is not part of the management team and played no part in the HR-related activities carried out by the organisation, anything the OP's post said in relation to a charge of constructive dismissal would probably rate somewhere between opinion and heresay. Totally fine for a TDWTF posting, likely to be useless as the (weight-bearing) foundation of a lawsuit.

  • Oofy Prosser (unregistered) in reply to Paddles

    Certainly no foundation. Only a tick box. "And what evidence do you have that you were humiliated in your co-worker's eyes?"

    You might be astonished how hard a law firm hits Google looking for tid-bits.

  • Ron (unregistered) in reply to Ben

    Oh, and to think chicks in new york pay top dollar for this kind of entertainment (w/ apologies to bill murray stripes).

    I've lived by 2 rules my career that generally seem to work: 1. if stupidity and/or incompetence can explain a situation or event, it probably does (ie, they really aren't out to get you); 2. What goes around, comes around, and if you stick around, you get to see it.

    What a great day this must've been -- everyone having worked with the "colleague" who's too good for the process!

  • Franz Kafka (unregistered) in reply to sheebz
    sheebz:
    Sounds like he really threw this guy under the bus. I think the real WTF is that the poster seems to take so much joy in it.

    Nah, that's not a WTF, it's a BOFH.

  • Mithrandir (unregistered) in reply to Joe

    Many businesses, even in CCW states, prohibit carrying on company grounds as a matter of policy. This is true of my company, for example.

    That's probably not so common in, say, Texas, but it's probably a lot more common elsewhere. (Whether such a policy is a good one is not a matter I'm prepared to debate.)

  • Mithrandir (unregistered) in reply to Mithrandir

    (above post should've appeared as follows)

    Joe:
    Skaven:
    Beware of a disgruntled BA coming in with a shotgun. I'm sure your office is circled in red marker on his plans. ;)

    Not a problem for those of us with concealed carry permits

    :)

    As for the rest of you, good luck.

    Many businesses, even in CCW states, prohibit carrying on company grounds as a matter of policy. This is true of my company, for example.

    That's probably not so common in, say, Texas, but it's probably a lot more common elsewhere. (Whether such a policy is a good one is not a matter I'm prepared to debate.)

  • (cs) in reply to Franz Kafka

    Hi All, OP-here. I can divulge this much: the BA in question is also the sponsor so lovingly referred to in previous posts. This guy has no legs to stand on.

    Was it "fun" to take him down? No. Poetic justice? Yes. Did he truly deserve it? You betcha. If he opens his big mouth, there is so much evidence against him that the company would be forced to level criminal misconduct charges at the guy.

    If he's smart, he'll crawl into a hole and stay there.

  • Andre (unregistered) in reply to Ben

    Hm...

    It seems like blow-whistling is a thing to be proud about... I did not know that.

  • Thomas (unregistered) in reply to Ben

    You, sir, are an asshole.

    The analyst deserved to be let go, but gloating over someone's humiliation makes you look like a bitter, pathetic creep.

  • Some Guy (unregistered) in reply to FredSaw

    "left to pursue other opportunities"

    You can NOT be serious. This is universal business language from HR to avoid lawsuits from the fired employee. You must not have been in business long...

  • Jobsworth (unregistered) in reply to jpers36
    jpers36:
    Yay for SOX-compliance!
    SOX compliance. Ooh yeah really. "Only SAP and mainframe are in the scope of SOX, the Windows infrastructure is outside the scope of SOX". Uhu... Intranet site running sharepoint, search for all files named "password.txt", find dozens of files, one of them containing a login+password for a rather important DNS server... what did you say, Windows infrastructure is outside the scope of SOX? My eyes, my eyes, dem hurtz!

    But that is not the real WTF. The real WTF is that 9 months after I reported this as a possible security incident, via proper channels, I can still find dozens of password textfiles. And I only wanted to read about the corporate password policy...

  • (cs) in reply to Joe
    Joe:
    Skaven:
    Beware of a disgruntled BA coming in with a shotgun. I'm sure your office is circled in red marker on his plans. ;)

    Not a problem for those of us with concealed carry permits

    :)

    As for the rest of you, good luck.

    A concealed carry permit would help him more than you, since you would want your gum in easy reach, but you would have no idea if or when he will attack.

    Note that I am not anti-gun, I;m just pointing out that in this case concealed carry would not help you.

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