• 1337 (unregistered)

    Care to add a legend to that final set of graphs?

    ED: Done!

  • FIA (unregistered)

    Mmmmmm piecharts....

    looks like Pac-Man is eating a rainbow.

  • YAYitsAndrew (unregistered)

    Interesting observation about the pie chart depicting what country the votes came from:

    The pie chunks are the exact same size as the average slice of apple pie taken during dessert in that country.

  • Alan (unregistered)
    And on that note, it's a quite interesting to see that nearly 800 of you would rather commit suicide than see another comic posted here.

    It would have been higher, if not for all the people who killed themselves anyway.

  • (cs) in reply to 1337
    1337:
    Care to add a legend to that final set of graphs?

    Looks like 4 is tan to me. Your on your own for the rest. Glad I could help!

    Edit: Or is that gray? Holy crap, I'm going colorblind as I get older...

  • Leo (unregistered)

    Woohoo! I can see myself in the csv file (there are only 5 people from my country, so it's quite easy).

  • (cs)

    "if you want to make an omelet, you have to kill a few people". There you go, trying to be funny again. Survey Taker #2883 is going to be angry.

    CSV file -- nice. As we've all learned here, flat files are the ultimate way to store data.

  • Stewie (unregistered) in reply to shadowman
    shadowman:
    1337:
    Care to add a legend to that final set of graphs?

    Looks like 4 is tan to me. Your on your own for the rest. Glad I could help!

    Edit: Or is that gray? Holy crap, I'm going colorblind as I get older...

    Red = bad = 7 Blue = good = 1

  • [CZ] Abraham (unregistered)

    My analysis of your data is mine and it is:

    1. Half of the big roundish pie chart is blue and the rest is not and that's it.
    2. The coloured strips are also rather blue, but the top of the MFD one is red probably regarding the suicides those 800 guys are about to commit.
    3. There's a blank space in the lower right corner on the last picture.

    On personal note I just wanted to add that this analysis is mine and belongs to me.

  • (cs)
    And on that note, it's a quite interesting to see that nearly 800 of you would rather commit suicide than see another comic posted here.

    You should go ahead and run a second season of MFD. The whiners would commit suicide, and there would be less lame bitching in the comments of other TDWTF features.

  • Programming contest link. (unregistered)

    Hi, the link to the programming contest isn't working.

  • (cs)

    I have to admit, while as I recall I voted "MFD sux" in the survey, it kinda grew on me. I would not mind seeing a new season, but please don't force us to post images as comments. Allow/encourage them, but don't make it (haha) Mandatory.

  • Justice (unregistered) in reply to ObiWayneKenobi
    ObiWayneKenobi:
    I have to admit, while as I recall I voted "MFD sux" in the survey, it kinda grew on me. I would not mind seeing a new season, but please don't *force* us to post images as comments. Allow/encourage them, but don't make it (haha) Mandatory.

    You mean so we can have page upon page of "this sux," "stop making comix," and "this sux harder than M$?"

    I'd rather see somebody make a little effort to comment on it. Plus, the reader comics are usually amazing. In fact! I would like to see another season of MFD that was just as bad as the first, so more people will give it the MST3K treatment in comic form.

    Come on, George. You can make up some original bad jokes.

  • (cs) in reply to ObiWayneKenobi
    ObiWayneKenobi:
    I have to admit, while as I recall I voted "MFD sux" in the survey, it kinda grew on me. I would not mind seeing a new season, but please don't *force* us to post images as comments. Allow/encourage them, but don't make it (haha) Mandatory.

    No. There was a good reason to do that in the first place, and I'm sure it hasn't changed.

  • Walleye (unregistered) in reply to [CZ] Abraham
    [CZ] Abraham:
    My analysis of your data is mine and it is: 1) Half of the big roundish pie chart is blue and the rest is not and that's it. 2) The coloured strips are also rather blue, but the top of the MFD one is red probably regarding the suicides those 800 guys are about to commit. 3) There's a blank space in the lower right corner on the last picture.

    On personal note I just wanted to add that this analysis is mine and belongs to me.

    Also, the segments of the MFD line chart are thin at one end, much much bigger in the middle, and then thin again at the far end.

  • A Gibbering Biped (unregistered)
    Alex, please stop trying to be funny. You are completely devoid of any sort of sense of humour and impervious to being told this. Your idea of an April Fool's joke was to pretend to rename the site what, three months after actually renaming it and renaming it back? That's not funny. You don't know what funny is. You don't get it, and no matter how much you're told, you *won't* get it. When three thousand people call you an ass, start looking for a saddle. I don't want your worthless prose, your insipid writing, or your mean-spirited forays into OS/platform wars. Basically, any time your personality creeps through, we all suffer.

    Wow, your mom is harsh!

  • Stuart (unregistered)

    0.72% (66 out of 9190) of responders have never visited TDWTF. Paradox error in universe; Abort, Retry, Fail?

    captcha: damnum. Indeed, statistics are the invention of the devil.

  • FIA (unregistered) in reply to 1337
    1337:
    Care to add a legend to that final set of graphs?

    Once upon a time, there was an evil baron, Baron Aggregator who thought that all data should be represented as a single piegraph, he was much hated throughout the land, although he thought the opinions of 2 people were irrelevant. Then, one day, from the east, there rode on a mighty steed the triumphant Lord Demo-Graph, who slew the mighty baron with his mighty drilldown.

    And there was much rejoicing.

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to gabba
    gabba:
    CSV file -- nice. As we've all learned here, flat files are the ultimate way to store data.

    CSV file? What about all those unfortunates that use comma as the decimal separator? Surely a semicolon separated version should be provided as well?

  • (cs)

    According to the data, there are 66(0.7%) people who never read the website (read freq = 0) yet still felt compelled to submit a survey. Of those 66, 3 people (4.5%) got on to say that MFD should be killed (gave it a 6).

    Further, there appears to be 15 people who like to submit surveys without answering a single question.

  • Joseph P (unregistered)

    Alex, please ignore any complaints that you are "completely devoid of any sort of sense of humour." A charge like that coming from a Cannuck or a Brit should be worn as a badge of honor. Heck, they don't even know how to spell "humor"!

    Keep up the great, witty work. ("Witty work?" Okay, now I'm starting to type like Elmer Fudd, you wascally code wangler!)

  • (cs)

    I thought the pie charts were the new season of MFD.

  • Anon 2 (unregistered) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    CSV file? What about all those unfortunates that use comma as the decimal separator? Surely a semicolon separated version should be provided as well?
    Yes, that's a great idea; nobody uses semicolons, right?
  • Former Jr. Programmer (unregistered)

    I absolutely LOVE how telling the "What do readers think of the different features?" graph is in regards to MFD.

    I'm glad I'm not alone.

    Still, I have my bottle of sleeping pills ready, just in case.

  • Tom (unregistered)

    Statistical analysis:

    s1. Sum all values in B:I -> 169754 s2. Count all values in B:I -> 73520 s3. Divide s1/s2 -> 2.67 s4. Divide s2/s1 -> 0.37 s5. Divide s1/s2 -> .14 s6. Apply 'deviation' formula aka. statistical number pulled out of one's ass s3*2 - s4 - s5 -> 4.83 s7. Apply final filer for data distillation aka. management one-figure statistic generator (s1/s5)/v1/v2 -> 42.85 where v1 = 2^10 to adjust result into 'bytes' and v2 = 3.14, everyone nees some PI(e) s8. Finally, remove 2 significant digits, to match original precision arriving at final statistic value -> 42

    Note, that obtained answer solves all known
    problems and is answer to:
    Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything
    
    Note, 85.93% of all statistics are made up on the
    spot, and another 64.13% after deliberate consideration.
    
  • Cornflakes (unregistered)

    I like how the submitter at 02/04/2008 09:39:22 only responded to request that you kill MFD.

    02/04/2008 09:39	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6	US
    
  • (cs)

    I had to import the data in to Excel, then set that the first row was a date/time and then I could sucessfully import it in to Access. For kicks you understand.

    Anyway, I now know that the 2 countries that hate MFD the most on average is Monaco and Iran. (Assuming ISO country codes).

    Monaco:			7
    Iran:			7
    Netherlands Antilles:	6
    Vietnam:		5.5
    Venezuela:		5
    
    [image]

    Completely useless data

  • M (unregistered)

    The CodeSod having a lower No. 1 score than everything (other than the MFD experiment) is a very sad day for humanity, abused puppis and homeless children :(

  • John (unregistered)

    I guess people from the UK are more cynical than the rest of the world... Am I reading that right? That and Germans apparently don't have a sense of humor. I was kinda hoping the US would have the highest comic appreciation so I could call us stupid. Oh well.

  • Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to Tom
    Tom:
    Statistical analysis:

    s1. Sum all values in B:I -> 169754 s2. Count all values in B:I -> 73520 s3. Divide s1/s2 -> 2.67 s4. Divide s2/s1 -> 0.37 s5. Divide s1/s2 -> .14 s6. Apply 'deviation' formula ...

    <2883> Please stop trying to be analytical. You are completely devoid of any sort of sense of mathematics. s1/s2 = 2.30894995. </2883>

  • Daniel (unregistered)

    So I tore through and made note of two things:

    1. The percentage of each country that voted "hate the most" on any given feature. This means, for example, the US cast 4,012 votes for MFD, 845 of them were "Really hate it, doesn't belong on WTF" giving the US a hate score of 21.06% for MFD. All data is included below.
    2. The countries that hate each feature the most, with at least 5 votes. For each feature, I took the highest hate percent as the country that hates that feature the most. Only countries with at least 5 non-zero votes for that feature were counted, so MC doesn't count, since there was only 1 vote from that country, and it was a "hate" directed towards MFD.
    3. Average hate level for each feature. Again, only countries with more than 5 votes counted so the 100% didn't throw off the results.

    #1: Country hate percentages raw data: COUNTRY,FEATURE,FEATURE_PERCENT,CODESOD,CODESOD_PERCENT,ERRORD,ERRORD_PERCENT,MFD,MFD_PERCENT,IVIEW,IVIEW_PERCENT,OFFTOPIC,OFFTOPIC_PERCENT,MFD_VOTE,MFD_VOTE_PERCENT US,4,0.10,2,0.05,13,0.33,845,21.06,4,0.10,57,1.43,332,8.27 PL,0,0,0,0,0,0,34,27.64,0,0,1,0.82,16,13.01 GB,4,0.41,6,0.62,8,0.82,282,29.01,4,0.41,23,2.37,91,9.32 DK,0,0,0,0,0,0,17,15.04,0,0,1,0.89,8,7.08 DE,1,0.19,0,0,1,0.19,113,21.56,1,0.19,9,1.71,37,7.05 FR,1,0.74,0,0,0,0,43,31.62,0,0,2,1.49,23,16.91 AT,0,0,0,0,1,1.22,16,19.51,0,0,0,0,4,4.82 NL,2,0.60,0,0,1,0.30,79,23.51,0,0,4,1.20,29,8.63 BE,1,1.06,0,0,0,0,17,18.09,0,0,2,2.17,7,7.45 CO,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,20.00,0,0,0,0,1,20.00 CA,1,0.17,0,0,3,0.50,140,23.33,0,0,9,1.50,47,7.78 HR,1,5.00,0,0,0,0,5,25.00,0,0,0,0,1,5.00 BR,0,0,0,0,0,0,15,20.83,0,0,0,0,7,9.72 ES,0,0,1,2.17,1,2.17,8,17.39,0,0,1,2.17,5,11.11 MK,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,20.00,0,0,0,0,1,20.00 EU,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,16.67,0,0,0,0,1,16.67 MT,0,0,0,0,0,0,2,50.00,0,0,0,0,2,50.00 NO,0,0,0,0,0,0,24,20.69,0,0,3,2.61,12,10.26 AU,4,0.88,4,0.88,4,0.88,100,22.03,3,0.66,13,2.85,53,11.60 FI,0,0,0,0,1,0.58,32,18.71,0,0,0,0,12,7.06 SE,0,0,0,0,3,1.33,34,15.11,0,0,3,1.35,12,5.36 IE,0,0,0,0,1,1.56,20,31.25,0,0,2,3.17,11,17.46 RO,0,0,0,0,1,1.92,12,23.08,0,0,0,0,5,9.62 CZ,0,0,0,0,0,0,9,19.57,0,0,0,0,3,6.52 RU,1,2.22,0,0,0,0,10,22.73,0,0,1,2.22,3,6.67 CH,0,0,0,0,0,0,21,25.93,0,0,0,0,10,12.35 IL,0,0,0,0,0,0,13,26.00,1,2.00,0,0,4,8.00 IT,0,0,0,0,0,0,16,34.04,0,0,1,2.13,7,14.89 EE,0,0,0,0,0,0,3,8.57,0,0,0,0,1,2.86 ZA,0,0,0,0,0,0,7,15.22,0,0,1,2.22,4,8.70 SG,0,0,0,0,0,0,5,22.73,0,0,0,0,2,9.09 LT,0,0,0,0,0,0,2,11.76,0,0,0,0,1,5.88 GI,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,100.00,0,0,0,0,0,0 RS,0,0,0,0,0,0,2,28.57,0,0,0,0,0,0 MD,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 IN,0,0,1,2.56,0,0,6,15.38,0,0,0,0,5,12.82 UY,0,0,0,0,0,0,2,28.57,0,0,0,0,2,28.57 BA,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 AR,0,0,0,0,0,0,5,17.86,0,0,1,3.70,1,3.57 BG,0,0,0,0,0,0,8,40.00,0,0,1,5.00,0,0 PT,0,0,0,0,0,0,4,14.81,0,0,0,0,2,7.41 UA,0,0,0,0,1,8.33,2,16.67,0,0,0,0,2,16.67 MX,0,0,0,0,0,0,3,16.67,0,0,0,0,1,5.56 SI,0,0,0,0,0,0,2,8.70,0,0,0,0,1,4.35 HN,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 GR,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,7.69,0,0,0,0,0,0 IS,0,0,0,0,0,0,4,36.36,0,0,1,9.09,0,0 HK,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,7.69,0,0,0,0,1,7.69 JP,1,4.55,0,0,0,0,3,13.64,0,0,0,0,2,9.09 BZ,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 HU,0,0,0,0,0,0,6,20.69,0,0,0,0,2,6.90 LV,0,0,0,0,1,8.33,2,16.67,0,0,1,8.33,1,8.33 LK,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 CN,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 AE,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,20.00,0,0,1,20.00,2,40.00 CL,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,9.09,0,0,0,0,3,27.27 TT,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 TR,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,16.67,0,0,0,0,1,16.67 PR,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,50.00,0,0,0,0,1,50.00 VE,0,0,0,0,0,0,2,40.00,0,0,1,20.00,1,20.00 SK,0,0,0,0,1,9.09,2,18.18,0,0,0,0,0,0 CR,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 BB,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 NZ,0,0,0,0,0,0,26,24.53,0,0,0,0,13,12.26 TH,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 PE,0,0,0,0,0,0,2,50.00,0,0,0,0,0,0 PH,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,12.50,0,0,0,0,0,0 DO,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 BY,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 A1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 LI,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 GU,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,100.00,0,0 ME,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 AN,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 KR,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 MY,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,20.00,0,0,1,20.00,0,0 TW,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 VN,0,0,1,50.00,0,0,1,50.00,0,0,0,0,1,50.00 PK,0,0,0,0,0,0,3,37.50,0,0,0,0,3,37.50 ID,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 BD,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 IR,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,100.00,0,0,0,0,1,100.00 GT,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 LU,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 EG,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 SA,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 UG,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,100.00,0,0,0,0,0,0 EC,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 MC,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,100.00,0,0,0,0,1,100.00

    #2: Which countries hate which feature the most? FEATURE,BIGGEST_HATER,HATE_PERCENT feat_feature,HR,5.00 feat_codesod,IN,2.56 feat_errord,SK,9.09 feat_mfd,BG,40.00 feat_iview,IL,2.00 feat_offtopic,IS,9.09 mfd_vote,PK,37.50

    #3: Average hate level for each feature: FEATURE,AVERAGE_HATE feat_feature,0.32 feat_codesod,0.13 feat_errord,0.75 feat_mfd,20.72 feat_iview,0.07 feat_offtopic,1.17 mfd_vote,9.48

    You can comment on this pr contact me for the source code at maniacdan at gmail

  • Ragu (unregistered) in reply to gabba

    I would have preferred the lines of the CSV file to have been encapsulated in XML so that it'd be easier to work with. Everyone knows that CSV in XML works the best.

  • Anonymous (unregistered)
    [image]

    My god! You lost over 20% in a single week! Sell your shares NOW!

  • (cs)

    Oh Man! Americans are like the total sum of all the other countries. Don't you do any work? Nice to see 46 ES's who visit the site.

  • ChrisH (unregistered)

    "...and no matter how much you're told, you won't get it."

    I couldn't agree more, keep up the good work Alex :) Maybe you shouldn't let your mom (AKA #2883) post on TDWDF.

  • Tom (unregistered)

    according to the data:

    almost identical numbers of people like/dislike codesod and error'd - when grouping all the data together the breakdown of people choosing 1,2,3,4,5 has a correlation of 99.8997%.

    However, when analysed on a per person basis, the correlation between the answers drops to 19.7919%.

    So in plain English, codesod is just as popular as error'd, but not liked by the same people

  • Tommy American (unregistered)

    I don't understand where some of these results are from. I mean, CA = California, IN = Indiana, DE = Delaware etc, but where the heck is GB and MK?

  • (cs)

    From looking at the pie charts, I have found the key ideal that all the nations can agree on: hating MFD. World peace, here we come!

  • Herr Killjoy (unregistered) in reply to Joseph P

    John Cleese would like a word with you.

  • Outsourcing Forever (unregistered) in reply to Daniel
    Daniel:
    #2: Which countries hate which feature the most? FEATURE,BIGGEST_HATER,HATE_PERCENT feat_codesod,IN,2.56
    LOL!
  • Dave (unregistered)

    Don't listen to survey taker #2883 Alex. Your personality and humor is what makes this site as great as it is.

    I also thought your April Fool's joke was very funny.

  • MeRp (unregistered) in reply to Tommy American
    Tommy American:
    I don't understand where some of these results are from. I mean, CA = California, IN = Indiana, DE = Delaware etc, but where the heck is GB and MK?

    Must be the great conglomerate states of the future of Georgia-Boston and Maryland-Kansas.

  • Keng (unregistered)

    can you give us unique id's for responses? im showing that there are up to 4 responses for some times (e.g. 04/02/2008 11:54:31).

    thanks

  • Ilya Ehrenburg (unregistered) in reply to th30519
    th30519:
    And on that note, it's a quite interesting to see that nearly 800 of you would rather commit suicide than see another comic posted here.

    You should go ahead and run a second season of MFD. The whiners would commit suicide, and there would be less lame bitching in the comments of other TDWTF features.

    I thought so, too. For a second. Then I realized they're only bragging. Pity, isn't it?

  • (cs)

    Data as a SQL file:

    http://ralph.sleigh.googlepages.com/wtf.sql

    Chart showing that people who dont like MFD also voted please no more

    [image] TRWTF is that those are the default excel colours and you can only change them to other ugly presets, no nice gradients.
  • keng (unregistered) in reply to Keng

    ummmm....my own little WTF there! 80)))) sorry.

  • Survey Taker #2883 (unregistered)

    And the pie chart colours are dumb, too.

    If you don't start getting more humourous, I'm going to leave.

    Really, I will.

  • John (unregistered)
    And on that note, it's a quite interesting to see that nearly 800 of you would rather commit suicide than see another comic posted here.

    Oh, I don't mind seeing another comic posted here.

    I just don't want to see THAT comic posted here again.

  • (cs) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    gabba:
    CSV file -- nice. As we've all learned here, flat files are the ultimate way to store data.

    CSV file? What about all those unfortunates that use comma as the decimal separator? Surely a semicolon separated version should be provided as well?

    Easily handled with a trivial regexp. Unless you'd prefer it printed out on to a wooden table and submitted to a more rigorous and enterprisey transformation?

  • John (unregistered) in reply to taylonr

    Maybe, like me, they read via RSS.

    (I read via livejournal; cuts down on the number of sites I have to keep track of and such)

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