• (cs) in reply to yet another Matt
    yet another Matt:
    I had to import the data in to Excel, then set that the first row was a date/time and then I could sucessfully import it in to Access. For kicks you understand.

    Anyway, I now know that the 2 countries that hate MFD the most on average is Monaco and Iran. (Assuming ISO country codes).

    Monaco:			7
Iran:			7
Netherlands Antilles:	6
Vietnam:		5.5
Venezuela:		5
    [image]

    Completely useless data

    Why is that completely useless? This is the first survey I have ever seen giving me a reliable guide, assuming I ever choose to visit a rat-hole like Monaco or Iran, that seven out of ten people I meet will be my Friend.

    Lonely Planet, eat your heart out.

  • Anonymoose (unregistered)

    their is know « aprilfools » tag!!!!(onteh wth pgae)!kind sir plz send codez.

  • oipoistar (unregistered) in reply to Daniel
    #2: Which countries hate which feature the most? FEATURE,BIGGEST_HATER,HATE_PERCENT feat_feature,HR,5.00

    WOW! I'm one of the 6 Croatians who did that survey and i dont think i voted it so down.

    Captcha: manipulating the results.

  • (cs) in reply to ubersoldat
    ubersoldat:
    Oh Man! Americans are like the total sum of all the other countries. Don't you do any work? Nice to see 46 ES's who visit the site.
    Think of us as 50 countries rather than one. After all, we are 50 "states" who banded together. Geographically, the count of responses makes sense, too. Observe:

    In total area, the United States is:

    * three-tenths the size of Africa
* half the size of South America
* half the size of Russia
* roughly the same size as China
* slightly larger than Brazil
* slightly more than one and a quarter times the size of Australia
* two and a half times the size of Western Europe
* roughly 14 times the size of France
* roughly 39 times the size of the United Kingdom
  • (cs)

    Given the graph posted of the top countries about MFD, it would appear that more people want it to stay than do not. Guess the crybabies were screaming the loudest (or their crying it just fun to watch) :o These numbers will only increase once those fabled 800 succumb to their promise.

  • (cs) in reply to Anon 2
    Anon 2:
    Anon:
    CSV file? What about all those unfortunates that use comma as the decimal separator? Surely a semicolon separated version should be provided as well?
    Yes, that's a great idea; nobody uses semicolons, right?
    "Here is a lesson in creative writing. First rule: Do not use semicolons. They are transvestite hermaphrodites representing absolutely nothing. All they do is show you've been to college."

    Kurt Vonnegut, A Man without a Country

  • accident (unregistered)

    WTF is on you. Your survey results are off by 1. I am from canada and used a proxy in the UK.

    YOUR RESULTS ARE INVALID AND FAILED.

    jk it seems like msot people like everything on this site except for MFD... which was pretty predictable.

  • (cs) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    CSV file? What about all those unfortunates that use comma as the decimal separator? Surely a semicolon separated version should be provided as well?
    I use a semicolon as decimal separator, you insensitive clod!
  • keng2 (unregistered) in reply to Keng

    kind of wtf'd myself there 80)))

  • Christopher (unregistered)

    I have to say, I was disappointed that you provided a .csv; I expected .mdb, with multiple tables inside (named TABLE1, TABLE2, ...) and with all the columns simply specified MEMO datatype.

  • Zero (unregistered)

    Can we at least have MFD in a separate RSS feed?

  • Steve (unregistered) in reply to Ralph

    After analyzing the data I came to 2 conclusions.

    1.) Vertical drag-scrolling in Microsoft Excel is frustratingly slow.

    2.) Screenshots in the article, taken in Windows with ClearType[TM] turned on are annoyingly blurry with "rainbow" artifacts.

    Steve

  • Die Gotos Die (unregistered) in reply to Dave

    Huh, Alex's mom is named Dave.

  • (cs) in reply to Alan

    You are completely devoid of any sort of sense of humour...

    As are we all. No one knows what "humour" is. The same applies to "colour," "vapour," and "aluminium."

    Now, humor--that's something else again, and I do think he has a sense of humor.

  • Daniel (unregistered)

    Am I just stupid or didn't anybody win the contest? There seems to be no mentioning of a winner on the contest page...

  • (cs) in reply to FredSaw
    FredSaw:
    ubersoldat:
    Oh Man! Americans are like the total sum of all the other countries. Don't you do any work? Nice to see 46 ES's who visit the site.
    Think of us as 50 countries rather than one. After all, we are 50 "states" who banded together. Geographically, the count of responses makes sense, too. Observe:

    In total area, the United States is:

    * three-tenths the size of Africa
* half the size of South America
* half the size of Russia
* roughly the same size as China
* slightly larger than Brazil
* slightly more than one and a quarter times the size of Australia
* two and a half times the size of Western Europe
* roughly 14 times the size of France
* roughly 39 times the size of the United Kingdom
    Size isn't the only important thing, Fred. Mongolia is pretty huge, too; but there are slightly fewer Mongols in the USA than there are in Mongolia.

    Only slightly fewer.

    Indeed, as a long-term reader of TDWTF, I'm not even sure about that any longer.

  • (cs) in reply to real_aardvark
    real_aardvark:
    Size isn't the only important thing, Fred.
    I'm just sayin'...
    real_aardvark:
    Mongolia is pretty huge, too; but there are slightly fewer Mongols in the USA than there are in Mongolia.

    Only slightly fewer.

    Indeed, as a long-term reader of TDWTF, I'm not even sure about that any longer.

    Reassure me that you're not making a veiled reference to Down Syndrome. Then explain, because I'm not ashamed to admit I have no idea what else you could mean.

  • Suraj (unregistered)

    I am not touching that file unless it is XML.

  • (cs)

    The Real WTF is the "A1" country.

  • (cs) in reply to MeRp

    No...you are being a bit parochial. Remember, there is a world outside the United States

    GB = Great Britain
    (aka England, aka United Kingdom)

    Historical note: Great Britain was formerly part of the United States until they were kicked out in the late 1700s.

  • Kallahan (unregistered) in reply to yet another Matt

    So basically what you saying is that now that MFD is dead the terrorists have won.

  • (cs) in reply to FredSaw
    FredSaw:
    real_aardvark:
    Size isn't the only important thing, Fred.
    I'm just sayin'...
    real_aardvark:
    Mongolia is pretty huge, too; but there are slightly fewer Mongols in the USA than there are in Mongolia.

    Only slightly fewer.

    Indeed, as a long-term reader of TDWTF, I'm not even sure about that any longer.

    Reassure me that you're not making a veiled reference to Down Syndrome. Then explain, because I'm not ashamed to admit I have no idea what else you could mean.
    It's not veiled, and it is sick, I admit.

    On the other hand, I've worked with a number of Down Syndrome kids, and I have to say that they're a lot more fun than most of the rest of humanity.

    This was actually an unconsidered comment on the prevalence of low-IQ Americans (and the implied irrelevance of judgements on how large a country is, how many grains of sand it contains, etc), and it was based on what I seem to remember were -- distinctly offensive -- categories for those judged to have an IQ below 80. As I recall, from 30 years ago (hello Mr Eysenck), these ranged (lower to upper) from cretin to mongol to idiot. I'm glad to say that a quick trawl through Google suggests that such categorisation is no longer used, although I'm not concerned in the same way that you are.

    The use of "mongol" to describe somebody who has an IQ of, let's say, between 60 and 75, was originally descriptive and (I believe) referred to a typically sallow skin, deriving, I would assume, from an associated genetic characteristic. If we can ignore the frankly terrifying history of eugenics in the last century, then I don't necessarily think it's too awful as a label. It's probably more offensive than the term "Siamese twins," but not by too much, and it served the same kind of purpose. The fact that it fell out of favour (prior to my posting, of course), is probably a good thing.

    You are what you grew up in to being. I grew up with kids calling each other (and me) "mongs." Fortunately, although I might slip into that mode every now and again, this is no longer common. Nowadays, we just call each other cunts, wankers, or gippos (hugely popular in drinking establishments around here). "Kikes" appears to be on the way out, although I recently caught an Irishman referring to "hill-billies" when his intended object of derision would far prefer (for both historical and geographical reasons) to be called "bog-paddies." And nobody, these days, can call anybody else a nigger; unless the first person is, in fact, black.

    Did I just say M****l again? Aw, F**k.

  • (cs)

    What I found interesting is that in Canada has 1/10 the population as the US but we submitted 1/7 the amount of comments as the US. Therefore a higher percentage of Canadians read this site. However, Australians must really like it because they have 1/13 the population of the US and submitted 1/8 the number of comments!

  • (cs) in reply to Joseph P
    Joseph P:
    Alex, please ignore any complaints that you are "completely devoid of any sort of sense of humour." A charge like that coming from a Cannuck or a Brit should be worn as a badge of honor. Heck, they don't even know how to spell "humor"!

    I do indeed know how to spell it. It's spelled "humour". :P

  • (cs) in reply to mrprogguy
    mrprogguy:
    As are we all. No one knows what "humour" is. The same applies to "colour," "vapour," and "aluminium."

    Now, humor--that's something else again, and I do think he has a sense of humor.

    Wow. A British spelling joke, delivered without any apparent irony whatsoever. Isn't it moronic, don't you think?

  • tamosius (unregistered) in reply to Zylon
    Zylon:
    mrprogguy:
    As are we all. No one knows what "humour" is. The same applies to "colour," "vapour," and "aluminium."

    Now, humor--that's something else again, and I do think he has a sense of humor.

    Wow. A British spelling joke, delivered without any apparent irony whatsoever. Isn't it moronic, don't you think?

    nah.. it's rather mongolic...

  • Jobsworth (unregistered) in reply to Ralph

    TRWTF is that you obviously haven't googled and therefor didn't find the sites of John Walkenback or John Peltier.

    captcha: abico

  • (cs) in reply to real_aardvark
    real_aardvark:
    This was actually an unconsidered comment on the prevalence of low-IQ Americans (and the implied irrelevance of judgements on how large a country is, how many grains of sand it contains, etc), and it was based on what I seem to remember were -- distinctly offensive -- categories for those judged to have an IQ below 80.
    So I gathered. I'm not sure what implication you're reading into my comment about size, but my point was nothing more than that it's reasonable to expect a large number of responses from a large and largely populated area. How that exposes me as having an IQ below 80 is a curiosity indeed.
    real_aardvark:
    The use of "mongol" to describe somebody who has an IQ of, let's say, between 60 and 75, was originally descriptive and (I believe) referred to a typically sallow skin, deriving, I would assume, from an associated genetic characteristic.
    It may be "mongol" over there; I always heard it as "mongoloid", and the label derives from the distinctive slanted eye shape and round face of people with Down Syndrome. The insult in it is not toward the people of Mongolia, but toward people with Down Syndrome, that they should be used as a standard of comparison for stupidity.
    real_aardvark:
    You are what you grew up in to being. I grew up with kids calling each other (and me) "mongs." Fortunately, although I might slip into that mode every now and again, this is no longer common. Nowadays, we just call each other cunts, wankers, or gippos (hugely popular in drinking establishments around here). "Kikes" appears to be on the way out, although I recently caught an Irishman referring to "hill-billies" when his intended object of derision would far prefer (for both historical and geographical reasons) to be called "bog-paddies."
    In my part of the country (southern USA) it's "rednecks", which literally describes the appearance of those in the rural south who spend all day out in the sun, whether driving a tractor, working on an oil rig, or whatever.
  • Tommy American (unregistered)
    No...you are being a bit parochial. Remember, there is a world outside the United States

    GB = Great Britain (aka England, aka United Kingdom)

    Historical note: Great Britain was formerly part of the United States until they were kicked out in the late 1700s.

    Oh right, like I'm going to learn History AND Geography. Hello! I'm American!!! I really don't care about this 'Great Britain' or any other country that doesn't speak English.

  • Anne Elk (unregistered) in reply to [CZ] Abraham
    [CZ] Abraham:

    On personal note I just wanted to add that this analysis is mine and belongs to me.

    And of course it's very thin on one end, much MUCH thicker in the middle, and then thin again at the far end.

  • SomeGuy. (unregistered)

    Just checking server time. Ignore this post

  • Fraggle My Rock (unregistered)

    I would like to offer an evaluation of your evaluation if I may ...

    Note: all data collected in this evaluation has been done so consistently and without bias **

    1.) Pie charts are mostly circles but sometimes they have other things in them. Yours seem to conform to this which is good. 2.) Bar charts mostly have bars in them. Again, you have met with compliance to standards. 3.) Pie charts and bar charts are pretty when they have lots of color in them. Your standards compliance puts you in the top percentile. 4.) That burrito I had at lunchtime ain't sitting right. This isn't necessarily related to your pie charts or your bar charts although the burrito did look similar to a bar in one of your bar charts.

    ** May not entirely be true.

  • Stuart (unregistered) in reply to Ralph
    Ralph:
    TRWTF is that those are the default excel colours and you can only change them to other ugly presets, no nice gradients.

    Excel 2007 looks a lot nicer. There's a much greater set of presets and templates for people to use than in previous version. This means that the next iteration of Office may come along before we get totally sick of them.

    [image]
  • Stuart (unregistered) in reply to Stuart
    Excel 2007 looks a lot nicer. There's a much greater set of presets and templates for people to use than in previous version. This means that the next iteration of Office may come along before we get totally sick of them.

    Can't edit and wrong pic... :(

    [image]
  • me (unregistered) in reply to tedbilly

    wrong-o mr. writes comments.

    that stat means that greater % of canadians submit comments.

    readership is a separate matter. take me -- I read this site lots, but I never comment (until now BWAHAHAHAHA)

  • Ed (unregistered)

    Here's an attempt at regression analysis of the data. Note, I do not do this for a living. I had a class on business analysis from an online university a few years back. So this may be a WTF in and of itself.

    I chose read frequency as the dependant variable. Meaning I'm going to try to see what other questions correlate to it and how strongly they correlate.

    It was obvious that The Big Question and The Mandatory Fun Day feature did not determine the Read Frequency. Meaning the enjoyment level of Mandatory Fun day has no correlation to how often your readers come to the site.

    Of the remaining fields, the ones that most influence the Read Frequency are Tales from the Interview and Error'd. Meaning the more your readers like these two categories, the more likely they are to be a frequent reader of your site.

    Keep in mind that causality is important. The reverse is not necessarily true--frequent readers of your site are not necessarily more inclined to enjoy these articles. Further analysis using each artcle as a dependent variable would be required to make this determination.

    Here are the tables from the analysis.

    Regression Statistics Multiple R 0.284604006 R Square 0.08099944 Adjusted R Square 0.080335231 Standard Error 0.489962109 Observations 6924

    ANOVA df SS MS F Significance F Regression 5 146.3766457 29.27532914 121.9485933 4.562E-124 Residual 6918 1660.754926 0.240062869 Total 6923 1807.131571 

    Coefficients	Standard Error	t Stat	P-value	Lower 95%	Upper 95%	Lower 95.0%	Upper 95.0%

    Intercept 5.479518648 0.030170116 181.6207332 0 5.42037596 5.538661335 5.42037596 5.538661335 feat_errord -0.074439356 0.007889323 -9.435455008 5.20455E-21 -0.089904851 -0.058973861 -0.089904851 -0.058973861 feat_feature -0.064953475 0.00873604 -7.435116582 1.17068E-13 -0.082078795 -0.047828156 -0.082078795 -0.047828156 feat_codesod -0.065085723 0.007791446 -8.353484934 7.93314E-17 -0.080359347 -0.049812098 -0.080359347 -0.049812098 feat_iview -0.119646761 0.00969276 -12.34393077 1.21401E-34 -0.138647545 -0.100645976 -0.138647545 -0.100645976 feat_offtopic -0.064855636 0.006922203 -9.369218449 9.69159E-21 -0.078425279 -0.051285993 -0.078425279 -0.051285993

  • iMalc (unregistered) in reply to tedbilly
    tedbilly:
    What I found interesting is that in Canada has 1/10 the population as the US but we submitted 1/7 the amount of comments as the US. Therefore a higher percentage of Canadians read this site. However, Australians must really like it because they have 1/13 the population of the US and submitted 1/8 the number of comments!
    I guess a lot of the US population just doesn't *get* most of the content. It sometimes takes some thinking to see what is wrong about the stories. I guess that makes sense anyway because those would tend to be the people featured in the stories.
  • EEJ (unregistered)

    "make an omelette, kill a few people"

    See? Now that's funny!

    I knew you had it in you.

  • (cs) in reply to iMalc
    iMalc:
    I guess a lot of the US population just doesn't *get* most of the content.
    Alternatively, Canadians like to complain.
  • Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to gabba

    You could store it in SQLite, thereby getting the best of both worlds!

  • Josh (unregistered)

    FWIW, I'm a huge fan of your worthless prose, your insipid writing, and your mean-spirited forays into OS/platform wars and only wish there was more of it for me to read.

  • Dan Neely (unregistered)

    TRWTF is that in the "What country did the surveys come from" chart the Czech Republic was chopped in half with a horizontal cut when everyone knows that the actual partition was a vertical chop to detach Slovokia.

  • (cs)

    Just wandering what kind of technique you're using to determine country of origin.

    I think a lot of the ISPs in Europe use .com as hostnames.

  • LaSepp (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous

    I think this "Reading frequency over time" graph shows one thing: Colorful graphs sometimes draw attention away from what they're saying in first place ;-).

    What may be the reason the FREQUENT readers answer quicker than those more INFREQUENT? :-)

  • LaSepp (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    [image]

    My god! You lost over 20% in a single week! Sell your shares NOW!

    I think this "Reading frequency over time" graph shows one thing: Colorful graphs sometimes draw attention away from what they're saying in first place ;-).

    What may be the reason the FREQUENT readers answer quicker than those more INFREQUENT? :-)

    Sorry for doubleposting... Must be that it's getting late (00:25) - didn't see the quote button... :(

  • (cs)

    In the 'serious' department: I was curious if frequent readers preferred other sections than less frequent readers. Turns out that is not the case, the statistics are surprisingly even over all reader frequency groups.

    [image] [image]

    And just for fun: if you are of the opinion that it is logical to have the same opinion on whether you like MFD and whether you want to remove it --- in that case people from Mexico, Spain, and Japan vote in the most consistent way, whereas people from Chile, Italy, and Croatia are less consistent :).

    [image]

    Note: People with a 0 vote in a relevant category have been removed from the data in the plots.

  • JB (unregistered)

    Nice comment from #2883. You anonamously should seek out more of your worst critics family guy style. "What would you say to the creator of the daily wtf if you met him?"

    I can't believe you didn't get more hits for "If you don't kill it, I'll kill myself." Thats almost too good not to pick.

    can't.. resist... GLOWING.... BUTTON.......

    EEEEAAAAAGHGHHHHHH!!!!!

  • (cs) in reply to real_aardvark
    real_aardvark:
    FredSaw:
    real_aardvark:
    Size isn't the only important thing, Fred.
    I'm just sayin'...
    real_aardvark:
    Mongolia is pretty huge, too; but there are slightly fewer Mongols in the USA than there are in Mongolia.

    Only slightly fewer.

    Indeed, as a long-term reader of TDWTF, I'm not even sure about that any longer.

    Reassure me that you're not making a veiled reference to Down Syndrome. Then explain, because I'm not ashamed to admit I have no idea what else you could mean.
    It's not veiled, and it is sick, I admit.

    On the other hand, I've worked with a number of Down Syndrome kids, and I have to say that they're a lot more fun than most of the rest of humanity.

    This was actually an unconsidered comment on the prevalence of low-IQ Americans (and the implied irrelevance of judgements on how large a country is, how many grains of sand it contains, etc), and it was based on what I seem to remember were -- distinctly offensive -- categories for those judged to have an IQ below 80. As I recall, from 30 years ago (hello Mr Eysenck), these ranged (lower to upper) from cretin to mongol to idiot. I'm glad to say that a quick trawl through Google suggests that such categorisation is no longer used, although I'm not concerned in the same way that you are.

    The use of "mongol" to describe somebody who has an IQ of, let's say, between 60 and 75, was originally descriptive and (I believe) referred to a typically sallow skin, deriving, I would assume, from an associated genetic characteristic. If we can ignore the frankly terrifying history of eugenics in the last century, then I don't necessarily think it's too awful as a label. It's probably more offensive than the term "Siamese twins," but not by too much, and it served the same kind of purpose. The fact that it fell out of favour (prior to my posting, of course), is probably a good thing.

    You are what you grew up in to being. I grew up with kids calling each other (and me) "mongs." Fortunately, although I might slip into that mode every now and again, this is no longer common. Nowadays, we just call each other cunts, wankers, or gippos (hugely popular in drinking establishments around here). "Kikes" appears to be on the way out, although I recently caught an Irishman referring to "hill-billies" when his intended object of derision would far prefer (for both historical and geographical reasons) to be called "bog-paddies." And nobody, these days, can call anybody else a nigger; unless the first person is, in fact, black.

    Did I just say M****l again? Aw, F**k.

    Fascinating how words change isn't it - I remember when 'mongol', 'spastic', 'nigger', 'cripple', 'goto' were entirely without perjorative connotations; the charity now known as 'Scope' was called 'The Spastics Society'. But no newspaper would print the word 'fuck'. That's progress, eh? (And 'Bog-paddies'? Didn't that used to be 'bog-trotters'?)

  • (cs)

    WTF? (errr WTH?) "It does show some potential," Uhmmmmm if you define potential as just as bad at the end than at the beginning, then yeah.

    Or perhaps you meant it showed plenty of potential for sucking more? Plenty of potential for never having a plot, plenty of potential for not understanding what a punch line is. Plenty of potential for no character developement.

    Bang on!

  • (cs) in reply to shadowman
    shadowman:
    ObiWayneKenobi:
    I have to admit, while as I recall I voted "MFD sux" in the survey, it kinda grew on me. I would not mind seeing a new season, but please don't *force* us to post images as comments. Allow/encourage them, but don't make it (haha) Mandatory.

    No. There was a good reason to do that in the first place, and I'm sure it hasn't changed.

    To force us to have fun? Sorry I don't buy the "there was a good reason" argument.

    Perhaps we should have to respond to Code snippets in code form?

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