• Crabs (unregistered) in reply to Marvin the Martian
    Marvin the Martian:
    Constant Mild Inebriation:
    They were units devised by those using them, as they were needed (i.e. from the bottom-up). Those who work with imperial units have no problem converting back and forth. It's very rare for the lay person to be required to convert between sub-systems (e.g. weights to volumes or vice-versa), so it's no big deal that there is no easy way to convert.

    This is obviously a complete lie. Having moved from Metric to Imperial territories, it just baffles me: as you go from small to large, the units switcheroo randomly and I dare you to convert them. What you imply is a worldview in which all putters about leisurely. It necessitates a stroboscopic view in which small has nothing to do with medium sized, and medium with large; and slow nothing with fast.

    For instance, the sugar I use can go from teaspoon via tablespoon to ounce then pound then ??, suddenly becoming (metric or not, unspecified) tonnes. While human weights have stones. So, if I need half a teaspoon of medicine per pound of bodyweight, there's a good chance my doc miscalculates and kills me. Speeds in miles/hour, with no easy relation to yards/minute --- so forget about a feel for "I'm doing XX miles/hour, so the next 100yards will take me YY".

    It's almost as bad as the football statium as surface unit and double-decker as weight.

    Actually, if it's going from teaspoon to tablespoon, it goes to ounce, then cup, pint, quart, gallon, etc.

    If we're talking weight, it goes from ounce to pound, to hundredweight (112 lbs), then ton (2240 lbs). Human weights don't have stones in North America, so I don't know much about it. I don't see how a doctor is any more likely to miscalculate with this system. In your specific example, take your weight and divide by 2, that's how many teaspoons you need. That's also a shitton (imperial shitton) of medicine.

  • DMA (unregistered)

    This is freaky. I just had to fix an old Access system that was falling over today.

    The problem: a 200 line procedure that could take any date string and, regardless of format, turn it into a standard dd/mm/yyyy format. Thus 21-sep-2008, 21-September-2008, 21/09/2008, 21/09/08 would all be converted to a standard format. It even tested for US format so that 09/21/2008 would be corrected. Great.

    200 lines of code that coped with everything except a short date format that left out leading zeros...

    Hours wasted because the original guy never thought to enforce a standard format throughout the application, and patched the same function several dozen times over 5 years. My head is still hurting.

  • Crabs (unregistered) in reply to Crabs
    Marvin the Martian:
    Constant Mild Inebriation:
    They were units devised by those using them, as they were needed (i.e. from the bottom-up). Those who work with imperial units have no problem converting back and forth. It's very rare for the lay person to be required to convert between sub-systems (e.g. weights to volumes or vice-versa), so it's no big deal that there is no easy way to convert.

    This is obviously a complete lie. Having moved from Metric to Imperial territories, it just baffles me: as you go from small to large, the units switcheroo randomly and I dare you to convert them. What you imply is a worldview in which all putters about leisurely. It necessitates a stroboscopic view in which small has nothing to do with medium sized, and medium with large; and slow nothing with fast.

    For instance, the sugar I use can go from teaspoon via tablespoon to ounce then pound then ??, suddenly becoming (metric or not, unspecified) tonnes. While human weights have stones. So, if I need half a teaspoon of medicine per pound of bodyweight, there's a good chance my doc miscalculates and kills me. Speeds in miles/hour, with no easy relation to yards/minute --- so forget about a feel for "I'm doing XX miles/hour, so the next 100yards will take me YY".

    It's almost as bad as the football statium as surface unit and double-decker as weight.

    I hit submit too soon.

    Also, if you're traveling at a speed where it's relevant to measure in miles per hour, the next 100 yards is irrelevant for doing calculations off the top of your head. Anything that needs to be done for proper calculations can be done via paper/calculator.

  • Neil (unregistered) in reply to BJ Upton
    BJ Upton:
    But have you measured a standard pint glass as used in the US? 14.5 ounces.
    Only at crappy bars! "Falsies" are made to look like real pint glasses but have smaller overall dimensions or extra-thick glass on the bottoms. They're designed to let corporate bars rip you off. Learn to recognize a true pint glass from a falsie, and direct your business accordingly! More info in this article from the Wall Street Journal.
  • (cs) in reply to ContraCorners
    ContraCorners:
    Crabs:
    Bernard:
    I come from the UK - we like to use imperial for milk, beer and speed limits. Everything else is metric. Not sure how we ended up like this...

    Well, because a pint is the perfect amount of beer to be served in one glass.

    Normally I'd agree with you. Much more than a pint and your beer is flat and warm before you finish it. But remeber, the OP is from the UK. They like their beer flat a warm.

    Whereas Americans hump their family pets and will vote for any beauty queen who winks at them ... or so I've heard. Like you, I can't be bothered to check it up.

    True, we prefer our beer not to be made out of rice, but that would be a minor cultural peccadillo. "Cellar temperature," however, is not "warm," unless that is you live in a tropical swamp. Global warming hasn't got quite that bad yet. As to the beer's head, there are broadly three classes of English drinkers:

    (a) Those who prefer a decent amount of froth, naturally created during the brewing process. These people normally live in the south. (b) Those who prefer a substantial head, generally created by use of a swan's neck beer tap. Again, as far as I'm aware (Boddingtons being my only real experience in this area), the beer is naturally carbonated. These people normally live in the north. (c) Those who drink something called "lager." This is in no way to be confused with lager as it is known in the rest of the world. It is consumed by northerners and southerners alike, who can generally be distinguished by their propensity to yell "Get your tits out for the lads," "Oi -- you looking at my bird?" or "Cartesian Dualism really doesn't work in the system of morality implied by the eightfold path" (this last, obviously, being restricted to select areas of North Oxford). Lager is most certainly not to be confused with Budvar, although it might be confused with Budweiser. As previously noted, it differs principally in that, rather than depending upon rice for its flavour, it generally substitutes various toxic chemicals left over from when Britain was an industrial power. The difference in quality is largely nugatory.

    FTFY.

  • Bobdobbs (unregistered) in reply to DoTheMath

    US pints are smaller than a English pints, I'm pretty sure he means UK pints.

    (+ UK Pint is the right amount to have a pint in)

    Anyway, usually milk is metric, but you can get it delivered in pint size bottles too sometimes.

    Beer in pubs comes in pints, in supermarkets in cans of 500ml or 330ml.

  • (cs) in reply to pink_fairy
    pink_fairy:
    "Cellar temperature," however, is not "warm," unless that is you live in a tropical swamp. Global warming hasn't got quite that bad yet.
    It's all relative, isn't it? Americans think beer's the right temperature when ice forms in it. Seriously. And to be honest, that is the right temperature for American beer, as it kills whatever it is that passes for flavor.
  • Constant Mild Inebriation (unregistered) in reply to DMA
    DMA:
    This is freaky. I just had to fix an old Access system that was falling over today.

    The problem: a 200 line procedure that could take any date string and, regardless of format, turn it into a standard dd/mm/yyyy format. Thus 21-sep-2008, 21-September-2008, 21/09/2008, 21/09/08 would all be converted to a standard format. It even tested for US format so that 09/21/2008 would be corrected. Great.

    200 lines of code that coped with everything except a short date format that left out leading zeros...

    Hours wasted because the original guy never thought to enforce a standard format throughout the application, and patched the same function several dozen times over 5 years. My head is still hurting.

    Oh yeah, been there. Once wrote a function OddballDateConversion which did exactly that. I forget the formats, but I remember explaining in the comments, then finishing with "Can it get any more oddball than this?" It had to be done in an embedded C on an obscure platform, so no helpful existing conversion functions. Hope I never see that again.
  • Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to Bappi

    See, and in Canada, we've moved to metric for everything except distance, which is measured as a unit of time.

    I, for example, live 20 minutes away from work, the drug store I got directions for was five minutes up the road, I asked someone the other day how far away from Dryden was from Kenora, and he responded that it was about an hour and a half. That kind of thing.

    It's actually much more handy for giving directions, because it's what people really want to know about anyway.

  • JoelKatz (unregistered)

    I believe this is the worst code that I have ever seen, and I've seen a lot of code. I defy anyone to defend anything in this WTF. I do not believe it can be done.

  • (cs) in reply to pink_fairy
    pink_fairy:
    ContraCorners:
    Crabs:
    Bernard:
    I come from the UK - we like to use imperial for milk, beer and speed limits. Everything else is metric. Not sure how we ended up like this...

    Well, because a pint is the perfect amount of beer to be served in one glass.

    Normally I'd agree with you. Much more than a pint and your beer is flat and warm before you finish it. But remeber, the OP is from the UK. They like their beer flat a warm.

    Whereas Americans hump their family pets and will vote for any beauty queen who winks at them ... or so I've heard. Like you, I can't be bothered to check it up.

    True, we prefer our beer not to be made out of rice, but that would be a minor cultural peccadillo. "Cellar temperature," however, is not "warm," unless that is you live in a tropical swamp. Global warming hasn't got quite that bad yet. As to the beer's head, there are broadly three classes of English drinkers:

    (a) Those who prefer a decent amount of froth, naturally created during the brewing process. These people normally live in the south. (b) Those who prefer a substantial head, generally created by use of a swan's neck beer tap. Again, as far as I'm aware (Boddingtons being my only real experience in this area), the beer is naturally carbonated. These people normally live in the north. (c) Those who drink something called "lager." This is in no way to be confused with lager as it is known in the rest of the world. It is consumed by northerners and southerners alike, who can generally be distinguished by their propensity to yell "Get your tits out for the lads," "Oi -- you looking at my bird?" or "Cartesian Dualism really doesn't work in the system of morality implied by the eightfold path" (this last, obviously, being restricted to select areas of North Oxford). Lager is most certainly not to be confused with Budvar, although it might be confused with Budweiser. As previously noted, it differs principally in that, rather than depending upon rice for its flavour, it generally substitutes various toxic chemicals left over from when Britain was an industrial power. The difference in quality is largely nugatory.

    FTFY.

    Sorry! No offense intended, friend.

    I agree with that ice has no place in beer, but I think some where between "ice forming" and "cellar temp" you'll find the right temperature for your beer. (well, my beer anyway... it's all in what you like.)

    • CC

    P.S. I think it's also more like we'll vote for our pets and hump any beuaty queen... But agian, that could just be personal preference.

  • Matho (unregistered) in reply to Stewie
    nobis:
    What's this obsession with 10s? Hexi is sexy! 256 hours in a day, 16 minutes in an hour, 16 seconds in a minute.

    What about 64 Secs in a min 64 min in an hour 16 Hr in a day =65536 seconds in a day - easier to use than 86400, we can use a smaller variable!!

  • BOB (unregistered) in reply to Addison
    Addison:

    shivers- if you weren't being sarcastic I would be very frightened.

    Last time I checked well over 5.5 billion people used metric. I hope you like being in a club where you're the only member. Well, other then Burma and Liberia. But they don't count.

    Once we colonize other planets there will develop a metric-style time system.

    Canada and the UK people still use feet and inches for measurement, and in the UK street signs are in miles. So other english speaking countries use both English and metric units and also use the SI system inconsistently.

  • (cs) in reply to Neil
    Neil:
    BJ Upton:
    But have you measured a standard pint glass as used in the US? 14.5 ounces.
    Only at crappy bars! "Falsies" are made to look like real pint glasses but have smaller overall dimensions or extra-thick glass on the bottoms. They're designed to let corporate bars rip you off. Learn to recognize a true pint glass from a falsie, and direct your business accordingly! More info in this article from the Wall Street Journal.

    Isn't there a dept of weights and measures or Bureau of Standards or some such that cerftifies that a pint glass is really a pint?

    When I was visiting Ireland about 20 years ago, I remember hearing a story on the radio about how pubs where running out of pint glasses. (my memory is a little fuzzy here... don't laugh, you'll be old too some day!) Anyway, the story was that either the folks who do the measuring or the folks that engrave the seal on the glass were on strike. As the strike dragged on, and pubs had the occiasional broken glass, the pubs were finding that they were running out of pint glasses during the busy times.

    And since you couldn't pump beer into a pint glass without a seal... you had a hard time selling your beer. I do remember one "man on the street" saying something like "that's no problem. We've all walked home with our last pint of the evening a few times... we'll just have to bring those glasses back."

  • Rast (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous Cowherd
    Anonymous Cowherd:
    Don't worry, thread readers; I hear that TopCod3r is all right. He went to live on a farm, where he can run and play. Irish Girl is there too. They're very happy. Please don't cry.

    This one deserves blue text.

  • aninimous (unregistered) in reply to snoofle

    A much better solution would be to mount the rockets on a ring of coiled wire placed in geostationary position around the Earth, spinning the coil in place opposite the direction of the Earth's spin. This would generate electricity from irregularities in the magnetic field and, in the process, slow down the Earth's rotation.

  • rast (unregistered) in reply to TopCod3r Vot3r
    TopCod3r Vot3r:
    topcod3r:
    One of the tricks I use when some of my software is running slow is to hand out a really cheap USB stick to the user and tell him or her to plug it into their computer and that it boosts performance of my application by up to 20%. It works especially well on salespeople and executives. I keep a jar of USB drives on my desk in case this happens. I just counted and I have 12 of them in my jar right now. I bought 20 of them from MicroCenter last month, so that tells you how useful they are... at $5 a pop (I expense them).

    Thanks for reposting; I missed this one the first time through. But it isn't really a WTF, since it would probably work.

  • Boozy (unregistered) in reply to Bobdobbs
    Bobdobbs:
    US pints are smaller than a English pints, I'm pretty sure he means UK pints.

    (+ UK Pint is the right amount to have a pint in)

    Anyway, usually milk is metric, but you can get it delivered in pint size bottles too sometimes.

    Beer in pubs comes in pints, in supermarkets in cans of 500ml or 330ml.

    Not to go too far off track....

    Most of Australia uses Imperial Pints (570mL/20fl.oz.) and Schooners (425mL/15fl.oz.)

    South Australia (in their infinite wisdom) adopted the Metric Pint (425mL/15fl.oz - odd given their milk used to be measured in Imperial pints {rounded to 600mL)) and Schooners (285mL/10fl.oz - called a middy or pot in most of the rest of the country)

    In the last couple of decades, an increase in English style Puns in Adelaide (SA) has meant more and more pubs adobt the Imperial pint - provided you ask for an imperial pint or 'handle', but will often still serve metric pints if you merely ask for a pint. Naturally, Interstate travellers are somewhat confused too - Asking for a pint and recieveiving a chooner (or vice versa)....

    An Adelaide Brewery seems to have come up with an interesting solution. Their bar in the local airport serves beer in 1 size (425mL/15fl.oz). If you ask for a schooner, they assume you are from interstate. If you ask for a pint you are a local. Either way you get 425mL...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_in_Australia

    (And most Australian beers come in 375mL bottles or cans...Many other sizes are increasingly appearing with bottle redesigns - as small as 285mL {but marketed as a 'standard drink' (For some reason Australians consider a 5%Alcohol drink to be standard in 285mL). Most other small sizes are purely to rip the consumer off.... But we're getting sidetracked....)

  • Andy (unregistered)

    What are you talking about, this code is AWESOME! It has ERROR HANDLING!!

  • (cs) in reply to pink_fairy
    pink_fairy:
    Whereas Americans hump their family pets and will vote for any beauty queen who winks at them ... or so I've heard. Like you, I can't be bothered to check it up.

    True, we prefer our beer not to be made out of rice, but that would be a minor cultural peccadillo. "Cellar temperature," however, is not "warm," unless that is you live in a tropical swamp. Global warming hasn't got quite that bad yet. As to the beer's head, there are broadly three classes of English drinkers:

    (a) Those who prefer a decent amount of froth, naturally created during the brewing process. These people normally live in the south. (b) Those who prefer a substantial head, generally created by use of a swan's neck beer tap. Again, as far as I'm aware (Boddingtons being my only real experience in this area), the beer is naturally carbonated. These people normally live in the north. (c) Those who drink something called "lager." This is in no way to be confused with lager as it is known in the rest of the world. It is consumed by northerners and southerners alike, who can generally be distinguished by their propensity to yell "Get your tits out for the lads," "Oi -- you looking at my bird?" or "Cartesian Dualism really doesn't work in the system of morality implied by the eightfold path" (this last, obviously, being restricted to select areas of North Oxford). Lager is most certainly not to be confused with Budvar, although it might be confused with Budweiser. As previously noted, it differs principally in that, rather than depending upon rice for its flavour, it generally substitutes various toxic chemicals left over from when Britain was an industrial power. The difference in quality is largely nugatory.

    FTFY.

    Probably the best thing about all the Eastern Europeans coming to Britain recently is that decent lager's come with them. Polish and Lithuanian stuff mainly, but I even had an Estonian beer in a London pub the other day. For those of us who don't like ales, it makes a change from Becks.

  • Pony Gumbo (unregistered)

    You had me at "Internal Access Application"

  • shMerker (unregistered) in reply to rast
    rast:
    TopCod3r Vot3r:
    topcod3r:
    One of the tricks I use when some of my software is running slow is to hand out a really cheap USB stick to the user and tell him or her to plug it into their computer and that it boosts performance of my application by up to 20%. It works especially well on salespeople and executives. I keep a jar of USB drives on my desk in case this happens. I just counted and I have 12 of them in my jar right now. I bought 20 of them from MicroCenter last month, so that tells you how useful they are... at $5 a pop (I expense them).

    Thanks for reposting; I missed this one the first time through. But it isn't really a WTF, since it would probably work.

    Supposedly that does work in Windows Vista. I've never tried it but whenever I plug a USB drive into my laptop it asks if I want to use it to improve performance. As I understand it you can set it up to use the USB drive as virtual memory.

  • psb (unregistered) in reply to tdb
    tdb:
    If we designed a new system of measures for time with no legacy support, we'd probably end up with day divided into 100 thousand units (10/100/100) and possibly a week of 5 or 10 days.

    Why? 60 is divisible by 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, 30 and 60.

    100 is divisible by 1, 2, 4, 5, 10, 20, 25, 50 and 100 - not nearly as good, especially missing the 3.

    In addition there is a good reason for people liking Imperial/English measurements - they're human friendly, they're never too large for the things that humans measure (fnarrr!).

    120 would be a good base as well - it adds divisibility by 8, 24, 40 and 120 to the figures 60 is divisible by. That's why 120Hz TVs are great for 24fps film transfers. But being over 3 digits long makes it less human friendly.

  • psb (unregistered) in reply to iToad
    iToad:
    The hours of work for will be 7 a.m. to 4:30 p.m., Monday through Thursday with a 30-minute lunch. The Friday schedule will be from 7:30 a.m. to 4 p.m.

    SEVEN AM! It's pitch black at 7am. Decent people don't wake up until 8! 10am is a perfectly acceptable time to get into work (within an hour of 9am, so within flexi hours).

    Your lovely work plan was destroyed by imposing your own early bird desires on a population who are mostly night owls.

  • psb (unregistered) in reply to fnord
    fnord:
    Bappi:
    I couldn't find anyone in the store who could tell me if a cup was larger or smaller than a pint (I wanted to buy a large enough quantity so I could measure at home)
    2 cups per pint, just FYI.

    Ah, so a cup is 284ml! Never could work out recipes that used such a weird term for measuring things. Like 'cups of banana' - what, chopped? smushed? why not say "2 bananas"!

  • (cs) in reply to psb
    psb:
    fnord:
    Bappi:
    I couldn't find anyone in the store who could tell me if a cup was larger or smaller than a pint (I wanted to buy a large enough quantity so I could measure at home)
    2 cups per pint, just FYI.

    Ah, so a cup is 284ml! Never could work out recipes that used such a weird term for measuring things. Like 'cups of banana' - what, chopped? smushed? why not say "2 bananas"!

    Because Bananas aren't a standard size. Or, at least, are even less standard than "cups."

  • Real Old Fart (unregistered) in reply to rfsmit
    rfsmit:
    You mean half a liter, plus a bit?

    Well, it's better than the U.S. pint, which is just short half a liter. The silly muffins.

    And if you fill it with the ailing horse urine we call beer, it's still no bargain!

    I recently stumbled into a small neighborhood pizza place in (of all places) downtown Little Rock, Arkansas, and discovered they stocked Old Peculier!

    It was a wonderful evening!

  • (cs) in reply to ContraCorners
    ContraCorners:
    Because Bananas aren't a standard size. Or, at least, are even less standard than "cups."

    A cup is 250mL, as standard in Australia at least.

  • (cs) in reply to Zemm
    Zemm:
    ContraCorners:
    Because Bananas aren't a standard size. Or, at least, are even less standard than "cups."

    A cup is 250mL, as standard in Australia at least.

    And it's 8 ounces in the US (I had to look it up).

    I think it's important for non-Imperialists (hah!) to understand that what appear to be vague and fuzzy units, such as cups, tablespoons, and teaspoons, are in fact precisely defined.

  • ChiefCrazyTalk (unregistered) in reply to m
    m:
    "By the time he found the below snippet, he felt like he needed a cold shower."

    The code made him horny?

    Yeah, when I first read this I assumed that the code was so great he was getting turned on.

  • foxyshadis (unregistered) in reply to shMerker
    shMerker:
    rast:
    TopCod3r Vot3r:
    topcod3r:
    One of the tricks I use when some of my software is running slow is to hand out a really cheap USB stick to the user and tell him or her to plug it into their computer and that it boosts performance of my application by up to 20%. It works especially well on salespeople and executives. I keep a jar of USB drives on my desk in case this happens. I just counted and I have 12 of them in my jar right now. I bought 20 of them from MicroCenter last month, so that tells you how useful they are... at $5 a pop (I expense them).

    Thanks for reposting; I missed this one the first time through. But it isn't really a WTF, since it would probably work.

    Supposedly that does work in Windows Vista. I've never tried it but whenever I plug a USB drive into my laptop it asks if I want to use it to improve performance. As I understand it you can set it up to use the USB drive as virtual memory.

    That only works for the fastest USB drives available, generally newer ones made for Vista or USB converters for high-speed camera memory cards. Vista will run a test on it after you plug it in and ask it to improve performance to see if it's fast enough, but even those that are may not be a huge performance boost.

  • jasomenaso (unregistered) in reply to hvm
    hvm:
    Don't get this as an anti imperial system rant but why is 12inch=1foot, 3feet=1yard, 1760yards=1mile more intuitive than simple multiplication (or division) by 10 for each prefix?
    I thought it had something to do with the fact that 12 is quite easily divided into halves, thirds and quarters...
  • Access boy (unregistered) in reply to Bernard
    Bernard:
    I come from the UK - we like to use imperial for milk, beer and speed limits. Everything else is metric. Not sure how we ended up like this...

    I come from AUS. A couple of years after we went metric (to cut trade with the Brit's and the Americans), the height limit notices on bridges all changed to metric. It took a couple of weeks to change all the bridge signs in Melbourne.

    About 2 weeks later, it took a couple of weeks to add Imperial measurements back onto all the new signs.

    Most of the truckies didn't know how high their trucks were in metric measurements, but they could guess.

  • (cs) in reply to Bappi
    Bappi:
    Zemm:
    ContraCorners:
    Because Bananas aren't a standard size. Or, at least, are even less standard than "cups."

    A cup is 250mL, as standard in Australia at least.

    And it's 8 ounces in the US (I had to look it up).

    I think it's important for non-Imperialists (hah!) to understand that what appear to be vague and fuzzy units, such as cups, tablespoons, and teaspoons, are in fact precisely defined.

    I'm from the US and have been dealing with cups and teaspoon and all that my whole life. What I meant was that while US Cup, or Austalian Cup, or Canadian Cup are all well defined, when you say "cup" it's vague and fuzzy (although not a vague and fuzzy as when you say "banana.")

    When you say "cup" do you mean an Australian Cup (250 mL according to Zemm), a Canadian Cup (227.304 mL) or a US Cup(236.588 mL).

    Don't even get me started on A, B, C and D cups. You boys should ask you wives, girlfriends etc. to tell you how "standard" those are some time.

  • MugHead (unregistered) in reply to ContraCorners
    ContraCorners:
    Bappi:
    Zemm:
    ContraCorners:
    Because Bananas aren't a standard size. Or, at least, are even less standard than "cups."

    A cup is 250mL, as standard in Australia at least.

    And it's 8 ounces in the US (I had to look it up).

    I think it's important for non-Imperialists (hah!) to understand that what appear to be vague and fuzzy units, such as cups, tablespoons, and teaspoons, are in fact precisely defined.

    I'm from the US and have been dealing with cups and teaspoon and all that my whole life. What I meant was that while US Cup, or Austalian Cup, or Canadian Cup are all well defined, when you say "cup" it's vague and fuzzy (although not a vague and fuzzy as when you say "banana.")

    When you say "cup" do you mean an Australian Cup (250 mL according to Zemm), a Canadian Cup (227.304 mL) or a US Cup(236.588 mL).

    Don't even get me started on A, B, C and D cups. You boys should ask you wives, girlfriends etc. to tell you how "standard" those are some time.

    Wiki is your friend.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cup_(unit)

    And according to wiki whom we all trust....: Imperial Cups = 1/2 (Imperial) Pint = approx 285mL Metric Cup = 250mL (Aus, Can, NZ) Legal Cup = 240mL (US) (US) Customary Cup = 1/2 (Customary) Pint = approx 235mL Japanese Cup = 200mL go~ = approx 180mL (Jap)

  • Coward (unregistered)

    Where's the TopCod3r comments? I think the highlight thingy should always highlight his comments.

  • Lurker (unregistered)

    Bring back TopCod3r!

    Sure, he made people mad, but he also made people think. And he was funny. I read TDWTF for the funny!

  • Dave (unregistered)

    Dendroclimatological analysis of this sample tends to agree with a hypothesis of a development environment with notably sparse observations of peer review, an atmosphere devoid of technical competence and corrosively high levels of PHB.

    While this is of no specific note and is common in this type of sedentary strata it is however unusal to note the tenacity and longevity over which this micro climate has persisted in spite of obvious evolutionary pressures.

  • EPE (unregistered) in reply to Charles400
    Charles400:
    I am a star. My co-workers revolve around me. Redefine the year!
    You must be an Oracle consultant.
  • (cs) in reply to Loren Pechtel
    Loren Pechtel:
    I'm wondering if there might be at least some sanity to this? Everyone seems to be assuming 5 days/week is set in stone but it isn't.

    Even assuming this is the case, this can be done waaaaaaaay better.

    Of the top of my head, just storing the exceptions to the rule - individual holidays. Obviously if there's an editor where holidays can be set, you just check if there are holidays falling in the week being tested (5 - num(holidays)).

    Besides, why is EVERY day when the app loads (I assume) being stored? Assuming you NEED to store the number of days per week, why aren't there just 52 entries, listing the number of working days in that week? This even allows for custom editing (though individual holidays can't be set).

    Nope. This guy didn't know what the fuck he was doing. I'd have liked to see the original requirements.

    Dude, I can't believe you tried to justify this code. TopCod3r? That you?

  • RiF (unregistered) in reply to java.lang.Chris;
    java.lang.Chris:
    <snip>For those of us who don't like ales<snip>
    You just haven't tried the right one yet!
  • RiF (unregistered) in reply to Rast
    Rast:
    Anonymous Cowherd:
    Don't worry, thread readers; I hear that TopCod3r is all right. He went to live on a farm, where he can run and play. Irish Girl is there too. They're very happy. Please don't cry.

    This one deserves blue text.

    Come on, own up, who set the bar too low?

    (this really made you spit your coffee and/or some other extraordinary reaction?! jesus.)

  • (cs) in reply to tdb
    tdb:
    It might, or it might not. Week is a purely artificial unit of measure, as are the units shorter than a day. ....and week probably has its origins in the Bible.
    Weeks were almost certainly around before the Bible was written. A possible reason a week has 7 days is because there were 7 heavenly bodies visible to ancient mankind and also it's about the time between the phases of the moon.

    Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus, Saturn. The names of the days from a large proportion of the world are based on the local names of those objects, or the gods associated with them. (in Europe, Latin countries use Roman gods - which are the same as the planet names, and Germanic languages (including English) use the equivalent Viking gods to the Roman god associated with the planet (eg Thor and Jupiter were both gods of thunder, hence Thor's day (Thursday) or Jupiter's day (Jeudi in French) )

  • (cs) in reply to Thief^
    Thief^:
    John:
    Umm, I've never seen milk sold in a 500ml carton in the UK, it's always 568ml, or a multiple of. It did strike me as odd when I moved over here (England) first, but since then I've become more English than them themselves.
    Yup. For evidence: One 1.13L (2 pint*) British milk
    Real (as in fresh) milk is usually sold in 568ml (1 pint) bottles and it's mutliples, but Longlife / UHT milk tends to come in 500ml and 1l cartons - as do most fruit juices (and some *really* cheap wines). Not sure why tetrapacks ended up being metric by default, but there it is...
  • (cs) in reply to Bappi
    Bappi:
    Oh, and ounce being both a measure of volume and weight? Epic fail.
    You mean the Fluid Ounce, being (approximately) the amount of water that weighs one ounce? Yeah, that's obviously dumb...
  • OutWithTheTroll (unregistered)

    @ TopCod3r-fans

    It's "Best Practice" to delete trolling.

    Either dedicate a website/shrine to him or get over it and move on.

  • (cs) in reply to Crabs
    Marvin the Martian:
    Constant Mild Inebriation:
    They were units devised by those using them, as they were needed (i.e. from the bottom-up). Those who work with imperial units have no problem converting back and forth.
    This is obviously a complete lie.
    Interesting - on what evidence is your judgement of the truth in these statements based? The fact that you can't cope with the imperial system? Hardly seems conclusive...
    Crabs:
    If we're talking weight, it goes from ounce to pound, to hundredweight (112 lbs), then ton (2240 lbs). Human weights don't have stones in North America, so I don't know much about it.
    The stone is 14lbs, and therefore makes a very convenient measurement of human weight: 10st = 140lb (~ 64kg), 15st = 210lb (~ 95kg). As a lifelong imperial measures user I simply can't visualise human weights given in lbs or kg and have to convert up to stones before I can work out if someone is fat or skinny.
  • Pretty Cool Guy (unregistered)

    I think TopCod3r is a pretty cool guy, eh trolls ppl and doesnt afraid of anything!

  • Contractor.. (unregistered) in reply to Edward Royce
    Edward Royce:
    Bernard:
    I come from the UK - we like to use imperial for milk, beer and speed limits. Everything else is metric. Not sure how we ended up like this...

    Because those are the important bits.

    Are you sure? Because I am imperial height, imperial weight inflate my tyres in PSI, oh and don't spent sh1tty Euros but Pounds!!!

  • (cs) in reply to Contractor..
    Contractor..:
    Edward Royce:
    Bernard:
    I come from the UK - we like to use imperial for milk, beer and speed limits. Everything else is metric. Not sure how we ended up like this...
    Because those are the important bits.
    Are you sure? Because I am imperial height, imperial weight inflate my tyres in PSI, oh and don't spent sh1tty Euros but Pounds!!!
    How many pence are in your Pound? If it's one hundred you are using metric money, and have rather detracted from what (up to that point) was a well made point. If it is two hundred and forty I'd like to know which shops you are spending them in...

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