• lol (unregistered) in reply to Max
    Max:
    Robyrt:
    This is why the musicians' union mandates a quick break every 90 minutes: that's about the amount of time you can expect full productivity from people before they start getting bored or squirrelly.

    NEVER use the musicians union as an example of anything good. I played with the Adelaide Symphony Orchestra. We were on a train to Alice Springs (about 9 hours) for a tour when they had to stop the train because of a union stipulation that the musicians need to be stationary for their meal breaks. Hate to think what would have happened if we were flying.

    It is a powerful union that can stop the Ghan just for the muso's. I take it they are not normally playing on the train, then?

  • jim (unregistered) in reply to L.
    L.:
    the beholder:
    FrostCat:
    anon:
    The real WTF isn't this company. The real WTF is not walking out on day two.

    Or else, walking out instead of mopping the floor.

    This. I would be somewhat annoyed by a boss micromanaging coffee breaks when I'm out of a resource - knowledge, in this case - I need to do my job. I would be extremely bored by a freaking 4 hour-long design meeting, in which 3 hours are purely about things that do not concern me now or in a near future, but that's still within acceptable boundaries. I would also hate to go through said 4-hour long meetings without as much as a 5 minutes break, but I still wouldn't jump the boat yet.

    But the cleaning part? It's too much stupidity to bear

    Meh . when someone asked me why I was outside smoking I told them I was busy thinking about the software design and just had a great idea - which was actually true.

    Apart from that, I woudldn't ever work with the company provided mouse and mousepad to begin with - and would leave if anyone insisted I did so /

    The only reason you wouldn't jump the boat is if you're stuck between hammer and anvil - I'm not and I don't think i'll ever be, after all there are IT jobs aplenty and I can do most of em quite nicely.

    When someone asked me why I was outside smoking I replied that it was because they didn't let me smoke inside....

  • Mathew (unregistered) in reply to s73v3r
    s73v3r:
    Mathew:
    Zapp Brannigan:
    Richard:
    Robyrt:
    This is why the musicians' union mandates a quick break every 90 minutes: that's about the amount of time you can expect full productivity from people before they start getting bored or squirrelly.
    If it truly makes people more productive overall, the union wouldn't have to mandate it. The employers would require it, in their own self interest.
    If employers weren't sometimes their own worst enemy, unions wouldn't be needed.
    -1 Actually, unions are the reason why employers can act this way.

    No, they're not. Only someone completely ignorant of labor history prior to the advent of unions would think something like that.

    Actually, I have a very good knowledge of that history - It was the time when worker's standard of living grew at the fastest pace in history. this abruptly stopt when unions took over. you're just a socialist/fascist troll.

  • Stew (unregistered) in reply to Mathew
    Mathew:
    Actually, I have a very good knowledge of that history ... you're just a socialist/fascist troll.

    And we have a loser. Sorry, your second statement completely belies the first. What you've done is about the equivalent of calling him a religious/atheist troll. Thanks for playing though.

  • (cs) in reply to DonaldK
    DonaldK:
    Nonsense.

    A boss that micro-manages but then have his developers clean the office?

    To me, Remy posts are kind of like the stories in religious texts: great stories that teach you things, that are not necessarily intended to be taken literally. Also unicorns could probably gore you pretty bad if they wanted, so be careful.
  • lolwtfbbq (unregistered) in reply to B00nbuster
    B00nbuster:
    csrster:
    A highly-educated friend once got a job designing exhibits for a science museum. On the first day they handed her a mop "because of budget cuts". It was also her last day.

    Now I admit that you should spent 95% of your time developing

    hmm, lets see. 4hrs cleaning = 5% of my time. That means I'm working an 80 hr week? no, thanks.

  • lolwtfbbq (unregistered) in reply to blueg3
    blueg3:
    MrBester:
    Googled "lumbergh", still no wiser. You want to make up new gerunds, fine. Just use something those who aren't USians might have a cat in hell's chance of understanding.

    You want to make up new adjectives, fine, but the internationally-accepted term for people from the US (in English) is "American".

    I kind of doubt that you actually searched for it. The top hit is a Wikipedia page (a good start) that clearly explains the character.

    In English, technology, and business, "adapting" words to other parts of speech is standard, well-known practice. Hence, lumbergh (v.): to do something in the fashion of Lumbergh.

    1/10 Complain about someone not googling a term they don't understand, then fail to do it yourself.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=USian

    used especially in internet based writing, used to indicate that someone or something is of the United States of America. This is contrasted with "American," which technically means someone or something belonging to North or South America, including such disparate places as Guyana, Mexico, and Canada.

  • Emperor Norton (unregistered) in reply to Jay
    Jay:
    On the flip side, nobody can really be productive for 8 or 9 straight hours a day with no breaks. So I usually don't mind taking a break from programming to do some menial work, just to clear my head.

    And if you do it with others, it can actually do a lot to put you in a different frame of mind, and you might solve some other problems together that are related to your regular work.

    At least that's what I've found. I love storage cleanout days.

  • Dewk (unregistered) in reply to fixed

    You make the faulty assumption that it takes a great idea to get a patent.

    You additionally make the faulty assumption that even if a person or small company came up with a great idea that Google or Apple wouldn't sue them to bankruptcy for obscure patent infringements just to get their hands on this great idea.

    All IP laws do is prevent innovation and competition.

  • Dewk (unregistered) in reply to Amorpho

    In the meantime, while you were mopping, you could have seen another patient or two and made several hundred dollars more for you company. Instead, you sacrifice the business in order make yourself feel like a team player. Any competent manageer would look at you as unfit for making any business level decisions and definately feel the need to micromanage you.

  • Dewk (unregistered) in reply to Jay

    Re: "you can take your pick of the best qualified people.". That of course assumes that your company isn't unionized. Once the union is there, the quality of one's work is a non-issue.

  • (cs)

    Our H.R Management agrees. We pay rate and expect everyone to complete regular hours of work. Some people do it in half time and some people take twice time.

    Rule is same. Nobody go home till work is completed.

  • Mathew (unregistered) in reply to Stew
    Stew:
    Mathew:
    Actually, I have a very good knowledge of that history ... you're just a socialist/fascist troll.

    And we have a loser. Sorry, your second statement completely belies the first. What you've done is about the equivalent of calling him a religious/atheist troll. Thanks for playing though.

    better to be a loser than a lamer.

  • Mathew (unregistered) in reply to Mathew
    Mathew:
    Stew:
    Mathew:
    Actually, I have a very good knowledge of that history ... you're just a socialist/fascist troll.

    And we have a loser. Sorry, your second statement completely belies the first. What you've done is about the equivalent of calling him a religious/atheist troll. Thanks for playing though.

    better to be a loser than a lamer.

    And actually no, fascism and socialism is about the same. As a starting point, read the 25-Punkte-Programm - fucking loser.

  • Jason (unregistered)

    So why didn't Steve check his job description then sue Frank to teach him a lesson in how to treat employees correctly?

  • The Mr. T Experience (unregistered) in reply to Mathew
    Mathew:
    better to be a loser than a lamer.
    Your nerdspeak means nothing to me, nawmean? Now punch yourself in the face and save me the trouble.
  • Mathew (unregistered) in reply to The Mr. T Experience
    The Mr. T Experience:
    Mathew:
    better to be a loser than a lamer.
    Your nerdspeak means nothing to me, nawmean? Now punch yourself in the face and save me the trouble.

    Or you could send some one from the Schutzstaffel over.

  • Stew (unregistered) in reply to Mathew
    Mathew:
    And actually no, fascism and socialism is about the same.

    Ha ha, that's like buying a suit off Savile Row and buying one in Sears and calling both stores tailors. You're one of those John Birchers, aren't you? There's unabashedly good free-market republicanism and then there's everything else, and it's all basically the same: bad and scary.

    If guess if you define socialism and fascism as "things I really don't understand but find scary," I can see why you see them as being basically the same. That's fine, I guess, though astonishingly ignorant. I just wouldn't be so eager to go around and show off my stupidity as evidence of actually knowing or understanding anything. But it's your life, you do what you want. :-)

  • anonymous (unregistered) in reply to B00nbuster

    Every human being wants to feel important and appreciated.

    The majority of IT shops I've seen had a dysfunctional management which leads me to the idea that it's not worth it to be a programmer. You will be mismanaged, and (ab)used.

    Study a Master's and become a manager, team lead, or the boss of your own IT shop.

  • brinksman (unregistered) in reply to hatterson

    After reading a bunch of 'job' and then seeing:

    That pretty much seems like what Steve did.

    The name parsed as 'Steve Jobs'. And I was like, ... but, but he was Sick!

  • Mathew (unregistered) in reply to Stew
    Stew:
    Mathew:
    And actually no, fascism and socialism is about the same.

    Ha ha, that's like buying a suit off Savile Row and buying one in Sears and calling both stores tailors. You're one of those John Birchers, aren't you? There's unabashedly good free-market republicanism and then there's everything else, and it's all basically the same: bad and scary.

    If guess if you define socialism and fascism as "things I really don't understand but find scary," I can see why you see them as being basically the same. That's fine, I guess, though astonishingly ignorant. I just wouldn't be so eager to go around and show off my stupidity as evidence of actually knowing or understanding anything. But it's your life, you do what you want. :-)

    You can

    1. Suck my dick
    2. Read 'Bracher, Karl Dietrich Zeitgeschichtliche Kontroversen um Faschismus, Totalitarismus, Demokratie'.
    3. Stop pretending people are ignorant just because they are educated.
    4. Swallow, Bitch!

    I don't see the link to Bircher here, you fucking moron. I don't even know that asshole. You're one of those Joe Goebbels, aren't you? Goin around, doing your PR-shit. Why don't you fuckface go and read a book for once?

  • Sayer (unregistered) in reply to KattMan
    KattMan:
    B00nbuster:
    OH YEAH, YOU'RE SO ROCKSTAR DEVELOPERS. WHY NOT HAVE TWO BARELY DRESSED WOMEN WHO FEED YOU A COCKTAIL AFTER EVERY LINE OF CODE? ARROGANT ELITISTS.

    Wait you mean most of us don't have barely dressed girls feeding us at our desks? I negotiated up, they aren't dressed at all.

    If all they're doing is feeding you, you're not making proper uses of the resources.

  • Sayer (unregistered) in reply to PiisAWheeL
    PiisAWheeL:
    PedanticCurmudgeon:
    Matt Westwood:
    I suppose there's a parallel from the age of Caxton: A: "Did you know that Saint Augustine said that ... (yadayada)" B: How do you know that? When did *you* get to speak to Saint Augistine? Oh, *I* know (mocking tone): you read it out of a book."

    Bollocks.

    All hail the information revolution. Nobody has the tiniest excuse to be ignorant about anything if they have an adequate bandwidth. All you stupid-and-proud-of-it fuckwits can eat my shit.

    There's no need to go back to the age of Caxton. The term "book-smart" is to this day occasionally used here as a pejorative.
    I agree. Also, the biggest problem with the information revolution is that all the no talent twits with enough bandwidth spend their time posting pictures of stupid shit they did on social networks and looking up mixed drink recipes, instead of actually trying to learn something.

    That's a problem with people.

  • ccj (unregistered) in reply to Nagesh
    Nagesh:
    ubersoldat:
    New blood gets mop duties.
    OMG, so epic!!! Now run!!!

    Wow I don't believing this at all. In India we have cleaning crew coming in every day twice to clean floor and carpet. Is this America or some other god forsaked country?

    In India we have cleaning crew coming in every day twice to clean floor and carpet (necessary because of all the roaming magic cows). Is this America or some god-forsaken country like India? FTFY and FU

    captcha: 'genitus' I am Genitus, f***er of worlds! Fear my mighty manhood!

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