• Tanya (unregistered) in reply to Myself

    I dunno. I like it.

  • James Schend (unregistered)

    I enjoy the button. "Don't ask me again."

    Ask me what? There's no question there.

  • misconfiguration (unregistered) in reply to Sam
    Sam:
    Wouldn't the universe have ended by the time that thing expires?

    If Jebus decides to come back, yes!

  • ÿ (unregistered) in reply to ASDF
    ASDF:
    ...but [7zip] has the worst UI known to man.

    The folks over at Lotus wish that were true.

  • Kozak (unregistered)

    What's with the "Don't ask again" check box? It's not asking anything! Also, isn't it just a notification dialog? Is there really going to be any different result by clicking "Cancel" instead of "Continue"?

    That's what you get when you use generic dialog boxes for everything.

  • Sgt. Preston (unregistered) in reply to Fez
    Fez:
    ...The real WTF about that is why anyone would pay for it when the trial never expires...
    Fez, I'll explain why. The trial version is for trying out the product. You're asked to pay for the product if you continue to use it beyond the trial period. Continuing to use it without paying for it is illegal and unethical.

    So, you're faced with two questions:

    1. Can I get away with using the product beyond the trial period?
    2. What kind of person am I?

    The answer to the former question is clearly "Yes." The answer to the latter question is the answer to your WTF.

  • MzK (unregistered)

    Forget about Winzip people, it's all about IZArch now, does the same, no bloat, freeware too !

  • Some Random compression junkie (unregistered)

    I'm quite fond of KGB Archiver myself. Unfortunately, I think I'm the only person on the planet who uses it.

  • (cs) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    How the hell can it take several seconds to extract ~50 files totaling less than 1 MB? Heck, my old 486/33 was faster than that! Can't Microsoft do anything right?

    I suppose you haven't tried 7Zip on FreeDOS. Without a disk cache. Inside an emulator. Now that's slow.

    As for why Windows is so slow moving files around (which it is!), I have a theory: it's object orientation taken to the extreme, i.e. each file is considered an object and processed individually, even if they're stored contiguously on disk. Linux, on the other hand, batches up operations as much as possible.

    Just an idea.

  • (cs) in reply to felix
    felix:
    Anonymous:
    How the hell can it take several seconds to extract ~50 files totaling less than 1 MB? Heck, my old 486/33 was faster than that! Can't Microsoft do anything right?

    I suppose you haven't tried 7Zip on FreeDOS. Without a disk cache. Inside an emulator. Now that's slow.

    As for why Windows is so slow moving files around (which it is!), I have a theory: it's object orientation taken to the extreme, i.e. each file is considered an object and processed individually, even if they're stored contiguously on disk. Linux, on the other hand, batches up operations as much as possible.

    Just an idea.

    With technical documentation and numerous comparisons of ntfs to ext3, reiser, xfs, etc, available all over the internet, why would you just pull a hypothesis like that out of your ass? ntfs is a well-made filesystem, for a 90's design, even if modern incarnations of the *nix filesystems surpass it in major benchmarks and fragmentation behavior. It's only slow because Explorer tends to use excessive journalling, access checking, and access time writing. There's plenty of read/write caching, asynch i/o queues, and write combining available in the API for sane software to use.

    The built-in windows zip extraction is just a bundle of suck on a stick, though. The fs has nothing to do with that.

    btw, it's a hypothesis, not a theory, until you've developed a method to predict future behavior. Yes, I'm being pedantic.

  • (cs) in reply to foxyshadis
    foxyshadis:
    btw, it's a hypothesis, not a theory, until you've developed a method to predict future behavior. Yes, I'm being pedantic.

    I stand corrected. As for why I didn't do all that research before posting my hypothesis, I think it would have been a bit over the top for a casual conversation.

    By the way, I wasn't too much off the mark, since it's Explorer's fault, right? I mean, if the default file manager doesn't know how to take advantage of the default file system...

  • Muppet Soft. (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    Thief^:
    I stopped using winzip when I got windows XP 4 years ago, with it's native .zip (aka compressed folder) support.
    I found that to be just about incredibly, embarassingly, unbearably slow. How the hell can it take several seconds to extract ~50 files totaling less than 1 MB? Heck, my old 486/33 was faster than that! Can't Microsoft do anything right?

    They make money off their OS and Office. So I guess they get something right there.

    Everything else they do, they do at a multi million or billion loss. Just because they can (or can't). ;)

  • The Dude (unregistered) in reply to The Rest Of Us

    They suck donkey bollocks.

    What has this site become. Worse than failure...

  • Cheatz (unregistered) in reply to mrprogguy

    Adults at WTF?! Legally, perhaps... Mentally, highly unprobable...

  • (cs) in reply to Abscissa
    Abscissa:
    FWIW, the zip functionality built into Windows blows. Who needs a wizard just to extract an archive? Even the otherwise-subpar WinZip allows a simple "Right Click->Extract", IIRC.

    I never use the wizard, I just double-click on the archive to open it and drag-and-drop the files I want to where I want them.

    Though I do find myself using winrar's "extract to folder named after archive" right-click option quite a lot too.

  • (cs) in reply to Myself
    Myself:
    I'm getting kind of tired of these Error'd stories with programs that show really big numbers because of overflow. It's only funny once.
    jethrotull:
    Geez, half of the "Error'd" is about integer overflow. Really childish, boring and somewhat pathetic.

    Then don't look at them or read them.

    I'm getting tired of the losers who just whine all the time, and complain about things that are none of their business to begin with. If you don't like the stories, don't read them. If you don't like the forum software, don't visit this site. If you don't like the site name, create your own site and call it whatever you like.

  • (cs) in reply to Fez
    Fez:
    The real WTF about that is why anyone would pay for it when the trial never expires. Let alone do so with a stolen credit card!

    The real WTF is someone like you who thinks software is good enough to use, but won't pay the piddly amount it costs in order to support the programmers who wrote it.

  • (cs) in reply to The Dude
    The Dude:

    They suck donkey bollocks.

    What has this site become. Worse than failure...

    Go away then. We'll miss you.

  • James (unregistered)

    The really staggering thing (taking the discussion back off course) is that if you poke around the web a bit, you'll see that FileMatrix is still being maintained and has been updated semi-recently. I guess he must have a userbase, or a serious mental problem. Or, uh, maybe both.

  • ping (unregistered)

    heee that window said Kontact, so i would gess KDE, soo heea no windows so ..... winzip???? ark does it all rar ace zip tar.gz tar.bz2

  • Kevin Kofler (unregistered)

    This is KDE bug 109059. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109059

    There's also a similar bug filed for keys which don't expire at all (#83079).

  • Ohnonymous (unregistered)

    The REAL WTF is that theme they use. Dark window borders and those hideous window gadgets. If that is KDE, it's being sorely misused.

  • (cs) in reply to ammoQ
    ammoQ:
    Konqueror knows how to open all of them. (At least .zip, .tgz, .tar.bz2)

    All KDE applications should be able to, actually, because it's all handled by KIO (kio_zip etc).

  • gaius (unregistered)
    I'm on year 4 of my free 30-day WinZip trial.
    Funny, I have that exact same thing with PowerArchiver... I should really start registering it ;)
  • Anonymous (unregistered)

    uncompressed zip + bzip2 > *

  • Brenda (unregistered)

    that key doesn't have an expiry.... it's counting to infinity and not making it.

    at least now we know when the universe will end.

  • (cs) in reply to Sam

    Well, it'll be dark after star formation ends. But that's okay because computers won't work, what with all the proton decay going on.

  • Brianary (unregistered)

    Till?

    1. noun: unstratified soil deposited by a glacier; consists of sand and clay and gravel and boulders mixed together
    2. noun: a strongbox for holding cash
    3. noun: a treasury for government funds
    4. verb: work land as by ploughing, harrowing, and manuring, in order to make it ready for cultivation (Example: "Till the soil")
    5. name: A surname (rare: 1 in 100000 families; popularity rank in the U.S.: #7936)

    Oh! 'til="until"

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