The Daily WTF: Curious Perversions in Information Technology

chubertdev · 2013-12-18 Reply Admin

public static string TDWTFLogic(object data) {
    string result = "FEMALE_NOT_FOUND";
    if (Logic(data))
    {
        result = "Blue!";
    }
    return result;
}

2013-12-18 Reply Admin

Zapp Brannigan:
What would a feminist programming language look like? Just imagine any Turing complete language and remove all reason and accountability.

Would a feminist Turing complete language be bi or just lesbian? I'm getting a headache trying to figure that out.

2013-12-18 Reply Admin

Janey:
Anon:
Is it any wonder there aren't many women in tech?
oh FFS, someone makes a (common) joke (which is regularly propogated across all types of social media by women as well as men) and suddenly everyone in IT is a mysoginist. Sometimes I'm not sure it's the boys that have to grow up!

"everyone in IT is a mysoginist"? You're assuming there are no women in IT? No wonder there are so few women in IT when even their female role models assume there are are no women in IT.

chubertdev · 2013-12-18 Reply Admin

TRWTF is Java, the Reply button, Hanzo, Gertrude, society, case-sensitive quote tags, quote-sensitive cases, HR, recruiters, interns, fear of code reuse, and FILE_NOT_FOUND.

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2013-12-18 Reply Admin

Norman Diamond:
Janey:
Anon:
Is it any wonder there aren't many women in tech?
oh FFS, someone makes a (common) joke (which is regularly propogated across all types of social media by women as well as men) and suddenly everyone in IT is a mysoginist. Sometimes I'm not sure it's the boys that have to grow up!
"everyone in IT is a mysoginist"? You're assuming there are no women in IT? No wonder there are so few women in IT when even their female role models assume there are are no women in IT.

you're assuming someone on the internet with a vaguely female name is female.

Also, wouldn't it be possible (albeit unlikely, UI suppose) to have female mysogynists?

2013-12-18 Reply Admin

Norman Diamond:
Zapp Brannigan:
What would a feminist programming language look like? Just imagine any Turing complete language and remove all reason and accountability.
Would a feminist Turing complete language be bi or just lesbian? I'm getting a headache trying to figure that out.

Feminism doesn't imply sexual orientation.

Besides, if it's a Turing complete language, it can reproduce on it's own.

2013-12-19 Reply Admin

cellocgw:
Yazeran:
Well assuming that all 2300 lines contained simply iterations of the two shown, then it could have been done in an hour by coding a generator...

But then he'd need to write lots of generators so as not to wear one out...

The intern wrote only one generator. It wore out at 2,300 lines

captcha modo - the arguments about sexism here are worse than those about taking the one ring to modo

2013-12-19 Reply Admin

PedanticCurmudgeon:
I'm not sure who is more annoying: the offended feminists or those who are obviously trolling them. It would be an interesting plot twist if the two sets overlapped.

Bigger plot twist: the offended feminists and the ones trolling them are the same person

Even bigger: the person has dementia and a touch of multiple personality disorder, so isn't aware they're arguing with themselves

captcha genitus - Even bigger twist again, said person has a mixed set of genitus

2013-12-19 Reply Admin

I'm disappointed to see the Daily WTF supporting the notion that "female logic" is different than "human logic", and the idea that when women say "no", they really mean yes, by featuring a comment to that effect. (Or is it that when they hear "no", they understand "yes"? My guess is the former, since it would be perceived as "funnier".)

These notions are classic examples of the devaluation of women (they're not human? Seriously?) and the perpetuation of rape culture (Actually, women do understand the difference between yes and no).

And people wonder why the tech world doesn't have a lot of women who want to join in.

2013-12-19 Reply Admin

Valued Service:
3. Doesn't blame them for acts of violence against them. Really, I can't think of the last time a woman was blamed for getting assaulted. I do however, wish that people would dress how they want to be treated, men and women alike (sagging pants... ).

... you're either a troll or you have your head in the sand. I hope you just have your head in the sand, because I like to think people aren't intentionally assholes. Look at any sexual harassment/assault of a woman in recent history and you'll find people saying that she shouldn't have dressed that way - that she was asking for it - that she shouldn't have gone to that part of the city - that she shouldn't have been - say - posting a game on a tech blog.

You even imply the "she shouldn't have dressed that way" in your own post. ... part of me thinks this is so off base, it must be intentional. But I know too many people who are actually this clueless to know for sure.

lucidfox · 2013-12-19 Reply Admin

Stephen:
I'm disappointed to see the Daily WTF supporting the notion that "female logic" is different than "human logic", and the idea that when women say "no", they really mean yes, by featuring a comment to that effect. (Or is it that when they hear "no", they understand "yes"? My guess is the former, since it would be perceived as "funnier".)
These notions are classic examples of the devaluation of women (they're not human? Seriously?) and the perpetuation of rape culture (Actually, women do understand the difference between yes and no).

And people wonder why the tech world doesn't have a lot of women who want to join in.

Good to see at least some men here get it.

2013-12-19 Reply Admin

Bas:
public static string FemaleLogic(object data) { string result = "Yes"; if (Logic(data)) { result = "No"; } return result; }

ymmd

Matt Westwood · 2013-12-19 Reply Admin

Stephen:
I'm disappointed to see the Daily WTF supporting the notion that "female logic" is different than "human logic", and the idea that when women say "no", they really mean yes, by featuring a comment to that effect. (Or is it that when they hear "no", they understand "yes"? My guess is the former, since it would be perceived as "funnier".)
These notions are classic examples of the devaluation of women (they're not human? Seriously?) and the perpetuation of rape culture (Actually, women do understand the difference between yes and no).

And people wonder why the tech world doesn't have a lot of women who want to join in.

One of the best ways to defeat a poisonous mindset is to laugh at it. This is why those of a particularly poisonous mindset have little sense of humour, because they feel threatened that their mindset is under attack.

Matt Westwood · 2013-12-19 Reply Admin

Stephen:
Valued Service:
3. Doesn't blame them for acts of violence against them. Really, I can't think of the last time a woman was blamed for getting assaulted. I do however, wish that people would dress how they want to be treated, men and women alike (sagging pants... ).

... you're either a troll or you have your head in the sand. I hope you just have your head in the sand, because I like to think people aren't intentionally assholes. Look at any sexual harassment/assault of a woman in recent history and you'll find people saying that she shouldn't have dressed that way - that she was asking for it - that she shouldn't have gone to that part of the city - that she shouldn't have been - say - posting a game on a tech blog.

You even imply the "she shouldn't have dressed that way" in your own post. ... part of me thinks this is so off base, it must be intentional. But I know too many people who are actually this clueless to know for sure.

If I see someone dressed as a policeman when I require the assistance of a policeman, then I would be disappointed to find that this person is not actually a policeman, just dressed like one and posing like one.

Similarly, when in the town late at night and see a woman dressed so as to deliberately attract the attention of men, then I would naturally assume that this is what she is trying to do. If she is not deliberately trying to attract the attention of men, then she is, at the very least, sending mixed messages.

I'm not condoning the actions of men who either can't control themselves or don't believe they ought to who overpower such women by physical force -- but I've got to ask: why do women love to go around town late at night dressed as whores? It's a question I've never got a straight answer to.

2013-12-19 Reply Admin

MC:
The office manager [...] She had a *fit.* [...] "We'll run out of numbers!"

Yeah... I met a stupid guy once... How I hate how all guys are stupid! But maybe it was because he was from US, maybe it's all US-poeple... I really need to invest some time to brush up my prejudice.

lucidfox · 2013-12-19 Reply Admin

Matt Westwood:
dressed so as to deliberately attract the attention of men

Matt Westwood:
dressed as whores?

facepalm

Matt Westwood · 2013-12-19 Reply Admin

lucidfox:
Matt Westwood:
dressed so as to deliberately attract the attention of men

Matt Westwood:
dressed as whores?

facepalm

What's your problem? You mean there's a difference?

2013-12-19 Reply Admin

ITYM:

public static string FemaleLogic(object data) { string result = "Yes"; if (Logic(data)) { result = "No"; } return "Maybe"; }

2013-12-19 Reply Admin

Bas:
public static string FemaleLogic(object data) { string result = "Yes"; if (Logic(data)) { result = "No"; } return result; }

Surely you mean "if (Illogic(data))"...

2013-12-19 Reply Admin

Stephen:
Valued Service:
3. Doesn't blame them for acts of violence against them. Really, I can't think of the last time a woman was blamed for getting assaulted. I do however, wish that people would dress how they want to be treated, men and women alike (sagging pants... ).

... you're either a troll or you have your head in the sand. I hope you just have your head in the sand, because I like to think people aren't intentionally assholes. Look at any sexual harassment/assault of a woman in recent history and you'll find people saying that she shouldn't have dressed that way - that she was asking for it - that she shouldn't have gone to that part of the city - that she shouldn't have been - say - posting a game on a tech blog.

You even imply the "she shouldn't have dressed that way" in your own post. ... part of me thinks this is so off base, it must be intentional. But I know too many people who are actually this clueless to know for sure.

"Find people saying that she shouldn't have dressed that way". People... some people. Five people. I'm sorry, some people are going to do stupid things. Doesn't mean we have an epidemic here. And besides that. A person, shouldn't dress a certain way. Period. This is a false dilemma. I'm not allowed to critic a person without saying they deserve to be assaulted? I should end my response here.

A woman undervalues herself when she dresses inappropriately. Which bad people see as, "I don't value myself." If anyone assaults a woman, cut their privates off.

"She shouldn't be posting a game on a tech blog." Oh comon. Do you really want to compare the two. I can't find anything wrong with acting out of ignorance that deserves berating. I would hope that people aren't ignorant of the fact that people's perception of them changes based on how they dress.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. You can't expect to be able to dress and act however you want, and still be respected. That goes for anyone, not just women. It's entitlement mentality. I'm not going to respect Miley Cirus like I do my mom or wife.

2013-12-19 Reply Admin

gnasher729:
anonymous:
It doesn't really matter for the sake of this argument what gender they identify themselves as. What matters is how their brains work, and who they're attracted to is apparently correlated to that.
To get it into your dumb head: Gay men identify themselves as males. Gay women identify themselves as females. People identifying themselves as something other than their birth gender are not gay.

IDGAF what they identify themselves as, because it's not relevant. The only point I was ever trying to make was that brain scans have shown that gay men's brains work more like straight womens' brains do, and vice versa for gay women.

2013-12-19 Reply Admin

Matt Westwood:
I'm not condoning the actions of men who either can't control themselves or don't believe they ought to who overpower such women by physical force -- but I've got to ask: why *do* women love to go around town late at night dressed as whores? It's a question I've never got a straight answer to.

Ever sent a CV when you where not actually looking for a Job? Like, to test your market value and get some figures to use in your next annual review?

And also, even if the woman in question is generally interested to meet men that evening, this does not necessarily mean she's interested in physical contact right away, or in meeting just any man. And maybe she just met with her boyfriend and only is on her way home. So, there are lots of reasons why a woman might be dressed sexy while still not being interested in a particular guy...

(Other way around, I try to be in a good shape and enjoy getting compliments from attractive/intelligent women, but there are definitely females about from whom I would rather get no attention at all.)

Captcha: veniam. I look for decent people, not the veniam crawling below the stones

2013-12-19 Reply Admin

Valued Service:
A woman undervalues herself when she dresses inappropriately. Which bad people see as, "I don't value myself."

So you're saying a whore is worth less than a non-whore? And don't forget, whores demand payment, you're not supposed to assault and rape them.

2013-12-19 Reply Admin

Really, THIS is a feature worthy comment???

When a woman says "No" she means "Yes"? This attitude is a big part of what's wrong in our society. It makes me sad my daughter still has to deal with this.

2013-12-19 Reply Admin

Judy:
Really, THIS is a feature worthy comment???
When a woman says "No" she means "Yes"? This attitude is a big part of what's wrong in our society. It makes me sad my daughter still has to deal with this.

The fact that you see the attitude behind A JOKE as a "big part of what's wrong in our society" says a lot about your active imagination.

lucidfox · 2013-12-19 Reply Admin

anonymous:
The only point I was ever trying to make was that brain scans have shown that gay men's brains work more like straight womens' brains do, and vice versa for gay women.

That's bull, but I'll give you the benefit of doubt and assume you aren't just trolling. Links, please.

2013-12-19 Reply Admin

lucidfox:
anonymous:
The only point I was ever trying to make was that brain scans have shown that gay men's brains work more like straight womens' brains do, and vice versa for gay women.
That's bull, but I'll give you the benefit of doubt and assume you aren't just trolling. Links, please.

http://talentdevelop.com/articles/gender.html

Although most gender studies have ignored it, sexual orientation may be as significant as sexual identity: one study at least has found that in terms of brain hemisphere functioning and certain cognitive abilities, homosexual males resemble heterosexual females rather than heterosexual males.[3]

3 Sanders G , Ross-Field L. Neuropsychological development of cognitive abilities. Int J Neuroscience 36:1-16, 1987

DrPepper · 2013-12-19 Reply Admin

flukus:
I don't know why this is a WTF, methods do get slower the more you use them.
I was profiling an application the other day and 1 method was taking up 50% of the wall time. I duplicated the method and updated half the references and got it down to 25%.

I could of improved performance further but I think I struck the right balance between performance and maintainability. Plus, it's nice to have something like that up my sleeve when performance reviews roll around again.

OMG!!! Made me laugh, thanks!!!

konnichimade · 2013-12-19 Reply Admin

anonymous:

ceiswyn:

Valued Service:
Fact: Men and women think differently. Sometimes even polar oppositely.

Stating that something is a fact doesn't make it true.

Men and women are heavily socialised to think differently, but even so there's plenty of evidence that the variation between the genders is overwhelmed by the variation within each.
Not only is "men and women think differently" a fact, but the brains of men and women are so markedly different that there have been studies which showed that a gay person's brain scan looks more like that of an individual of their identified gender rather than their birth gender.

If you want to argue that that's entirely due to socialised effects, be my guest. Maybe you'll invent the next cure for gayness. If it can be taught, it can be untaught.

Wow. Gay != transgender, at all, even a little. That pretty much ruins your credibility on the subject.

2013-12-19 Reply Admin

konnichimade:
Wow. Gay != transgender, at all, even a little. That pretty much ruins your credibility on the subject.

If a MTF transgendered person is legally a woman, and is attracted to other women, does that mean she is a lesbian? Can she legally marry a woman in a state that does not permit gay marriage? Can she legally marry a man?

chubertdev · 2013-12-19 Reply Admin

TRWTF is watching the comment count go up AND down.

2013-12-19 Reply Admin

Bas:
public static string FemaleLogic(object data) { string result = "Yes"; if (Logic(data)) { result = "No"; } return result; }

Umm.... hooray for sexism in the tech industry?

2013-12-19 Reply Admin

anonymous:
If a MTF transgendered person is legally a woman, and is attracted to other women, does that mean she is a lesbian?

Yes. What else could it mean?

Matt Westwood · 2013-12-19 Reply Admin

ceiswyn:
anonymous:
If a MTF transgendered person is legally a woman, and is attracted to other women, does that mean she is a lesbian?

Yes. What else could it mean?

... and does it matter? What business is it of yours who a person is attracted to? Dinna fash ye'sel', it ain't ever gonna be you.

chubertdev · 2013-12-19 Reply Admin

ceiswyn:
anonymous:
If a MTF transgendered person is legally a woman, and is attracted to other women, does that mean she is a lesbian?

Yes. What else could it mean?

This.

2013-12-19 Reply Admin

chubertdev:
TRWTF is watching the comment count go up AND down.

Are you sure you're talking about comments? That's not what the comments are talking about.

chubertdev · 2013-12-19 Reply Admin

Norman Diamond:
chubertdev:
TRWTF is watching the comment count go up AND down.
Are you sure you're talking about comments? That's not what the comments are talking about.

What the comments are talking about is their own business, regardless of their sex and/or gender.

2013-12-20 Reply Admin

Matt Westwood:
... and does it matter? What business is it of yours *who* a person is attracted to? Dinna fash ye'sel', it ain't ever gonna be *you*.

Are you startin', ye sassenach?

2013-12-20 Reply Admin

It looks like the sexist comment has been unfeatured. Thanks, TDWTF!

PedanticCurmudgeon · 2013-12-23 Reply Admin

Anonymous Will:
Valued Service:
A woman undervalues herself when she dresses inappropriately. Which bad people see as, "I don't value myself."

So you're saying a whore is worth less than a non-whore? And don't forget, whores demand payment, you're not supposed to assault and rape them.

Did you stop reading after the sentence you quoted?

2013-12-23 Reply Admin

try {
    if (Logic(women)) {
        alert("impressive");
    }
} catch (e) {
    alert("Logic and women do not exist together.");
}

2013-12-27 Reply Admin

Don't wear out your inner platform shoes either.

2013-12-31 Reply Admin

Seems the junior developer misunderstood the phrase "function overloading" ;)

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