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At least that guy was shredding for security purposes.
I had to have a cube next to an "IT Director" who would print out each and every email he ever got, look it over, then immediately drop it into the shredder directly under the printer. He went through about 4 toner cartridges and 2 shredders per year while I was there. He printed everything and rarely kept anything longer than a day, yet it all went into the shredder. Which meant that every 10 minutes or so the silence would be rent asunder with a SCRAAAWK as the shredder digested another "Me Too" email and another tree wept.
Of course he got fired a few months later, for filming semi-professional adult videos in the workplace after hours.
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I'm the Leigh in the article and there's one thing that Alex left out (probably because I forgot to tell him)...
The owner was armed. Yup, no one was daring enough to tell the crazy armed dude he needed help. Serious help. Though I did consider it about once an hour.
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Agree. There are lots and lots of UI designers and web designers that are female. Just once I'd like to see a hardcore, down to the metal, female programmer who uses vi, writes in assembly (or, I guess, C++) and eschews fancy graphics. I bet such a creature does not exist :)
Ok, I'll give and accept a female programmer that at least doesn't use javascript as their main language :)
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Let me check.... yup. Love vi, won't do graphics, doesn't even KNOW javascript, writes perl and C and occasionally C++ and loves linux (and my Mac) and did I mention DOESN'T DO graphics?
And yes. FEMALE. Sheesh.
I do exist. It's the rest of you I'm not too sure about.
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Reminds me of my only ever IT position (I went freelance after)
It was about 3 weeks, paid less than the timber yard (Yeah, CCNA + MCSE and got 2.5k less than for lugging wood around) and was miles away.
The first WTF was when the head of IT (who was a belligerent prick) asked me to replace the desktop environment (i.e. the shell, explorer) with a web browser interface that would take the new operations system the guy next to me was developing. Fair enough.
Locked the group policies down tighter than a fish's arsehole. Browser configured as a shell, all done, piece of piss.
But he wouldn't believe his eyes. I had to take 15 mins explaining that I had done exactly what he had asked.
Oh and then I was yelled at for downloading updated drivers for a new printer. "I told you to install the printer!!!" I'm not sure he really knew wtf he was doing.
I wanted to break his jaw, and nearly did, but I just finished my lunch and walked. Best feeling ever!
Oh, and the SQL database that ran the whole operation (insurance co call centre) borked a few times a day needing a reboot while the agents rolled back to pen + paper.
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I once worked for a client where they occasionally shredded documents. One day I walked in and the place smelled of something burning.
It turned out that the shredder had caught on fire. Since that day, I’ve never used my shredder at home again.
I guess when you think about it, it’s surprising that more shredders don’t go up in flames.
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Well, based on the story you were hired as a development MANAGER. Not exactly the type of person who I would imagine spends a lot of the day hunched over vi, writing C code.
I don't mean any offense but I want to ask: when was the last time you wrote code full time?
I ask because I went to school with a lot of people - both men and women - who went into programming just to get enough knowledge so they could go into the field and manage the people who did the real work. As you can imagine, this practice tends to end with a large amount of PHBs.
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I had a similiar first experience. But at my place we had a DBA that spent half her time doing data cleanup. She was made to do this rather then the team fix the code because "change bad" As far as I know that is still going on.
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Spiffy title. Small company. They wanted me to talk to customers as the 'development manager'. Customers were more impressed if the 'development manager' called them back as opposed to the 'team lead'.
I was actually more of a hands on team lead, so... yeah. Wrote code mostly full time. Still do.
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That's cool :)
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Well, I used to work with one. She didn't use vi (she preferred emacs), but did lots and lots of C++ for SGI, Solaris, and Windows.
She was from Iowa. One of the whitest girls I've ever seen in my life.
Maybe one of these days I'll see another one...
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Women make great programmers, as they're almost as smart as men but type much faster!
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She is from India though. Does that throw off the value of my claim?
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For all those ripping on female programmers, might I recommend taking another look at http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Slightly-More-Sociable.aspx?
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I took over mainframe coding from a pair of (older) female developers a few years ago. A couple of weeks ago, I took over the systems at a seperate financial unit from...another pair of female developers.
The hypothesis is, therefore, that female coders work in financial mainframe environments, and solely work with other female coders. Research into this area has been stymied by a funding cut initiated by a female CFO, suggesting a global conspiracy on a massive scale.
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My wife claims to want to go back to school and get a Master's in Comp Sci. I'm hoping the "introduction to programming" classes do not beat it out of her.
Oh, and I don't exist.
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so there, although this Rebecca is a sysadmin, not a dev.
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Well, then all I can say is, "HA HA!"
I married one.
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There are days when I'd love the Shredder gig.
We have a "prosumer" shredder at home (if there is such a thing. . . a "prosumer" shredder, not home -- it's the best one that you can get at the local office supply chain store, anyhow) and there's something incredibly satisfying about feeding a handful of junk mail and other assorted crap into its slot and hearing that wonderful cruncha-cruncha sound
At a previous job, we had a serious commercial-grade shredder that would take 132 column fanfold paper. I would have milliseconds of fun feeding a box of old printouts into and watching it gobble up the pages like a reverse line printer.
No, as a matter of fact, I don't have much of a life. Why do you ask?
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Leigh,you rock. it is not that women in tech do not exist. it is that they either are dead weight or so good that they make everyone too threatened to remember they exist... i have never met a woman who was an average programmer, just the extremes.
oh and i do not exist. not because i am a woman in CS [i am a guy], i just do not exist.
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Please send pix. Preferably nekid.
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Gah! It's as they're moving!
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Will you marry me?
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Be sure to google "Admiral Grace Hopper."
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My first job out of college in the late 1980's, I would spend about 2 days a month printing and seperating the monthly financials (132 column, 3-part carbonless greenbar - those were the days!). Then I'd spend a half a day shredding the last month's.
I used to joke that I was working on a "shredder attachment" to fit in place of the output tray on our line printer. That way I could combine the 2 tasks into one.
Yeah... nobody laughed then either, but one assistant comptroller thought it was great idea.
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How about Rear Admiral Grace Hopper? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper Uhm... she died in 1992.
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Female programmers do exist (and use vi), And you don't want them to be reviewing your code ... unless you like working through review comments which are longer then the original code.
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It's always a good idea to check posted links out before ridiculing someone.
(I'm not typing the rest of that sentence, or else I'll be calling the wrath of Mruphy upon myself too)
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OMG its a girl.
I used to work as a COBOL programmer for Australian law enforcement about 8 years ago. I think the COBOL and mainframe (MVS/CICS) put me off programming for life.
I'm now a network engineer/admin. Do the odd bit of Perl scripting, website debugging etc.
And I'm not an olga, parvati, ping, or chang etc.
Just for the record, I also enjoy playing unreal tournament and counterstrike, and read tdwtf and /.
On the weekends I like riding my Honda cbr600rr motorbike and driving fast expensive cars.
Have I destroyed enough sterotypes today?
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Where can I get a security porpoise? We're right here near the ocean and I need one to defend us. This $850 firewall is no longer cutting edge.
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Before a good ridicule to link posted checks out, it's someone's idea.
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Onya Kylie, but that is a girl's 'bike, you know.
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There's the geek VHDL-talking (or is it Verilog?) girl of Commodore-in-a-joystick fame, and then there's the reliability engineering vel silicon-reliability-simulating lady that my department had recently acquired. Been to her seminar recently and she's cool in my book, and about as much of a geek as you can get. Worked on uber-sexy stuff through her career so far.
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So what did this company make, besides packing material?
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I'm a sysadmin who likes to use her Linux from command line interface, prefers emacs, and eschews this newfangled GUI thing as much as possible -- point and click is so much waste of energy most of the time. I'm a Bastardette Operator from Hell.
What was your user account again?
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The Real WTF is that the "familiar-looking" IP is not in fact the same IP.
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Anyway, I've read some ridiculous comments here. I've always had female developers in my project teams and I have always been happy with the quality of the code they delivered. They don't keep argueing all the time like those know-it-all male developers.
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i'm a female developer...
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That's because they know their place.
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Heh, for XP, that is actually true.
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I think I exist, but I'll have to shred myself for security purposes.
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The Moment is when they say "you hired".