• (cs) in reply to Franz_Kafka
    Franz_Kafka:
    Rebecca Ore:
    Nanau taught me the Second Clue. If you make a decision under pressure, and someone who's never been in the same position decides at leisure to criticise without being polite and asking questions, make sure that the person understands the absolute inappropriateness of this as hard as possible. If someone with more technical experience wants to suggest how you should handle it next time, that's okay fine.

    so there, although this Rebecca is a sysadmin, not a dev.

    She's also a published writer: see Amazon

    But then, being a woman, she's able to multitask.

  • Charles (unregistered)

    Bring back TopCod3r - please!

  • WinformsC#SQLDevGirl (unregistered) in reply to Rob

    "I call BS. There are no girls in IT outside of tech support and testing. "

    On the slim offchance that you are not a troll - hello there from me.

    15 years in the biz, done it all developemnt wise (developoer, analyst, consultant etc.) - but NEVER tech support or testing! I have worked with at least half a dozen female devs - and one team lead (at British Rail 15 years ago!). There are many female DBAs...

  • WinformsC#SQLDevGirl (unregistered) in reply to Sarah Palin
    Ok, I'll give and accept a female programmer that at least doesn't use javascript as their main language :)

    As a Winforms/C#/SQL (sybse/Oracle) dudette, I suspect you will still say I don't count. No websites (ick!). 15 years in the biz. Degree in CompSci.

    Though I am doing Winforms UI in this job I mainly do middle layers/data layers (though I did do some API stuff to do with USB devices/CD drives a few jobs back).

  • Peets (unregistered) in reply to RBoy
    RBoy:
    I'm left wonding what ever happened to the company in question. This whole thing sounds to me like someone is/was breaking a handfull of laws.

    At least, that's my humble opto.

    Some hacked the main system and installed a pr*n archive. When the boss found out (and after he'd "observed" every last scrap of it, of course) he changed the company directives and turned it into a "dodgy website" provider.

    That was easier than admitting he'd been wrong.

  • WinformsC#SQLDevGirl (unregistered) in reply to WinformsC#SQLDevGirl
    WinformsC#SQLDevGirl:

    15 years in the biz, done it all developemnt wise (developoer, analyst, consultant etc.) - but NEVER tech support or testing! I have worked with at least half a dozen female devs - and one team lead (at British Rail 15 years ago!). There are many female DBAs...

    and ocunter to sterotype - I really can't type...

  • Freedom (unregistered) in reply to Removed Under the Witness protetion Program.
    Removed Under the Witness protetion Program.:
    Sarah Palin:
    amischiefr:
    Richy C.:
    Girls in IT? Nah - you're right, there aren't any... Apart from the one I'm engaged to ( http://www.whatkatydid.org/ ) and the one I'm currently doing some freelance work for (who also just jumped past Everest to raise funds for Computer Clubs 4 Girls - http://www.cc4g.net )...

    Of course, the more girls in IT the better!

    Web designers don't count. My 13 year old cousin does web design ffs.

    Agree. There are lots and lots of UI designers and web designers that are female. Just once I'd like to see a hardcore, down to the metal, female programmer who uses vi, writes in assembly (or, I guess, C++) and eschews fancy graphics. I bet such a creature does not exist :)

    Ok, I'll give and accept a female programmer that at least doesn't use javascript as their main language :)

    Female programmers do exist (...)

    http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The_Brillant_Paula_Bean.aspx

  • (cs) in reply to Anonym
    Anonym:
    him:
    I’m criticising someone typing ability – I wonder if Muphrys law will come into play.
    a winrar is you

    Yet you and everyone missed:

    him:
    If you thing back to the last job you ...
  • JimmyVile (unregistered)

    I bet Paula Bean is totally hot.

    Although I know women who work in IT, I never met one I liked. They* seem to be those look-how-secure-I-am-about-myself-giggle-please-like-me-types.

    [*the ones I actually met, an extremely small percentage of the total female IT population]

  • Hans (unregistered) in reply to Barf4Eva
    Barf4Eva:
    Poor fella... You should work at my company, then. ;-)

    So, what company is that than? And do you need a C++ guy?

  • Miso Genistroll (unregistered)

    It's nice to hear from all the female devs because I must admit, I've never worked with any myself. But now I know that you exist, I'm not really sure how I feel about it. Some people have proudly commented that they married IT girls - but to be perfectly honest, if a girl started discussing the finer points of the model view controller paradigm it would scare the shit out of me. Just like if a girl told me she could get an extra 20bhp out of my GSX1400 by remapping the fuel injection - it would be like "so when did you get your dick chopped off?".

    I like my partner exactly how she is - female.

  • Elton (unregistered) in reply to Michael
    Michael:
    My moment was when our CIO told me: "Solaris is alright, but you have to reboot it every day or it will run out of memory."

    Ha, you think that the CEO was lame? Where I once worked, they DID have to reboot the Sun server at least once a week, because it DID run out of memory, due to an old buggy version of Solaris, with a memory leak in a service we used. Either lethargy or the development software stack tied us to the old version, I'm not sure which. Eventually I took over sysadmin and installed a newer version of Solaris, where the problem had been fixed, along with new development software. So YES, it could very well be that somebody was stuck with a crappy old version of Solaris with a memory leak.

  • him (unregistered) in reply to Anonym
    Anonym:
    him:
    I’m criticising someone typing ability – I wonder if Muphrys law will come into play.
    a winrar is you

    Which is more ironic out of these options? Me making a typo on someone/someone’s This guy thinking I mistyped Muphry. Having ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife.

  • (cs) in reply to him
    him:
    Anonym:
    him:
    I’m criticising someone typing ability – I wonder if Muphrys law will come into play.
    a winrar is you
    Which is more ironic out of these options? ... This guy thinking I mistyped Muphry. ...
    I think we need to coin the new usage Dubner's Erratum to describe this phenomenon: the incorrect correction of a spelling or typographical error due to ignorance of the item mentioned (naming inferred from the WIkipedia article for Muphry's Law). What's the best way of getting this into common usage, do we think?
  • (cs) in reply to Miso Genistroll
    Miso Genistroll:
    ...if a girl started discussing the finer points of the model view controller paradigm it would scare the shit out of me. Just like if a girl told me she could get an extra 20bhp out of my GSX1400 by remapping the fuel injection - it would be like "so when did you get your dick chopped off?".

    I like my partner exactly how she is - female.

    So for you, she's defined by her gender. She's a sex object. No education, no brains, no thinking. Just stay in that kitchen when you're not in bed. How nice for your partner.

    Personally, I prefer a woman who cares about more than shopping, and knows more than how to put on makeup. Stimulating conversation is a nice way to spend time together. A partnership isn't just about sex.

  • him (unregistered) in reply to Code Dependent
    Code Dependent:
    A partnership isn't just about sex.

    True. But when looking for a potential life partner* I'm more interested in a girls sex skills than her programming skills. And I’ll assume the feeling is mutual.

    (* and when I say life I mean any duration between the next 15 minutes and the next ten thousand years)

  • (cs) in reply to him
    him:
    Code Dependent:
    A partnership isn't just about sex.

    True. But when looking for a potential life partner* I'm more interested in a girls sex skills than her programming skills. And I’ll assume the feeling is mutual.

    (* and when I say life I mean any duration between the next 15 minutes and the next ten thousand years)

    So what will you spend the other 23 hours and 57 mins of the day doing with your partner?

    For the record, my wife can't program, but is a relatively competent googler which is about as much as one can ask for. But then again she's got a degree in horticulture and can strip clean a petrol mower in under an hour...

    The worst code I've ever seen was written by a South African lady developer, it was utterly UTTERLY awful, the mere memory of it brings a lump of bile to my throat...and I would submit it here, but no-one would believe it.

  • (cs) in reply to him
    him:
    Code Dependent:
    A partnership isn't just about sex.

    True. But when looking for a potential life partner* I'm more interested in a girls sex skills than her programming skills. And I’ll assume the feeling is mutual.

    (* and when I say life I mean any duration between the next 15 minutes and the next ten thousand years)

    Ah, I'm not paying attention since TopCod3r doesn't seem to be signing his posts with that name any more. Miso Genistroll, huh? Suckered me in. Dang. (misogynous troll)
  • My Name (unregistered)

    heh, one of my friend used to work for a city school board, they were responsible for everything the schools would ever need. Now when we throw paper out to the recycle bin, we don't think of it anymore. Well, not them.

    Everything was getting routed to an old retired school, in the basement. There, a few high-paid unesteemed member of the staff would take whatever was in these bins, unstaple everything, remove all the plastics and stuff, and sort all the paper in convenient bins, one for plain paper, one for coloured paper, one for cardboards, one for the plastic rulers, one for the staples, and so on.

    The fact most employees were paid more than $50K per year should ring an alarm, but hey, they were there, they were paid, and most of them were there because they could not be fired, but they were so annoying they would simply give them this really important assignment.

  • Calli Arcale (unregistered) in reply to JimmyVile
    JimmyVile:
    I bet Paula Bean is totally hot.

    Although I know women who work in IT, I never met one I liked. They* seem to be those look-how-secure-I-am-about-myself-giggle-please-like-me-types.

    [*the ones I actually met, an extremely small percentage of the total female IT population]

    We vary widely, but since we represent a relatively small percentage of the overall IT/Engineering/etc population, you won't meet that many of us. A small sample size has inherent problems when attempting to generalize from that sample. Your best bet for getting a representative sample is to meet more of us. ;-)

  • immitto (unregistered)

    What's wrong with an $850 firewall appliance ? That's the price of a small Cisco PIX which is ideal for a small business.

    Actually a Cisco ASA which has replaced PIX.

  • Resa (unregistered)

    Jesu, There are some real losers on this site!

  • tbrown (unregistered) in reply to DoctorFriday
    DoctorFriday:
    http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Biographies/Lovelace.html:
    Lovelace flirted with several of her male acquaintances and there were several scandals. Her husband made sure that over 100 of her letters to such friends were destroyed.

    But were they properly shredded??

  • LEGO (unregistered) in reply to Code Dependent
    Code Dependent:
    A partnership isn't just about sex.

    O_o Huh??? How's that?

  • tbrown (unregistered) in reply to him
    him:
    Anonym:
    him:
    I’m criticising someone typing ability – I wonder if Muphrys law will come into play.
    a winrar is you

    Which is more ironic out of these options? Me making a typo on someone/someone’s This guy thinking I mistyped Muphry. Having ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife.

    No, it would definitely be meeting the man of your dreams and then meeting his beautiful wife.

  • (cs) in reply to Miso Genistroll
    Miso Genistroll:
    It's nice to hear from all the female devs because I must admit, I've never worked with any myself. But now I know that you exist, I'm not really sure how I feel about it. Some people have proudly commented that they married IT girls - but to be perfectly honest, if a girl started discussing the finer points of the model view controller paradigm it would scare the shit out of me. Just like if a girl told me she could get an extra 20bhp out of my GSX1400 by remapping the fuel injection - it would be like "so when did you get your dick chopped off?".

    I like my partner exactly how she is - female.

    Yeah, god forbid your GF shares your interests and wants to go riding with you. You might get out to the track and find out she's faster.

  • Vermis (unregistered) in reply to Leigh
    Leigh:
    I do exist. It's the rest of you I'm not too sure about.
    Ok, ya got me! I'm a figment of my own imagination, In fact, as a child, I was an imaginary friend.
  • cak (unregistered) in reply to Vermis

    I have worked with 3 female developers before.

    The first was my boss, who just wouldn't let the code go, and only got me to rewrite here code because it was timing out, due to one page with 100s of SQL requests. She should not have been coding.

    The second was a single mum joined the company at the same time I did, who would take weeks to do something quite simple. She took a course on computing when her child got old enough. She should not have been coding.

    The third was even worse, new lots of buzz words, but after talking to her for 60 seconds I could tell she was just spouting rubbish.

    What does this prove? Nothing, I am sure there are great female programmers out there. Nobody cares about female programmers really, can't you read between the lines. They care about HOT female developers, and unless you start posting pictures, this ain't what we are getting.

  • EPE (unregistered)

    At least, they do not have regulations stating that all electronic documents must be printed and shredded upon deletion...

  • Simon (unregistered)

    I should have known things were going to be bad at a place where the office looked ok, but the signing-in book was a school exercise book with a stub of a pencil attached to it via a piece of string.

  • (cs)

    Hm, document shredding actually seems to be one of the things I wouldn't outsource for the very reasons the boss said.

    Other than that, the internet + firewall stuff is definitely WTFy enough to start searching another job.

  • blunder (unregistered)

    I would ideally like to meet a lady with a strong Java/C++ background but maybe PHP is your thing !

    I realize now that it looks like weird spam, but this is a link to a sort of relevant Achewood comic.

  • Ann Nonymous (unregistered)

    I used to work with Leigh's manager's polar opposite. She refused to throw away any piece of paper because that would be wasteful. In fact, she used to scavenge other people's offices for paper in order to keep our printer well-supplied.

    Considering that we worked in a hospital, the eventual outcome was probably inevitable. I picked up a memo that she was going to send someone outside our department, and it had been printed on the back side of a letter concerning a patient that was HIV positive.

    I quietly took the memo to my supervisor, and we never used "recycled" paper in the printer again.

  • Dustin (unregistered) in reply to Michael

    Solaris... Mac... Windows... Linux... OS/2... DOS... VAX... TRS-80...

    They all do that.

    Rebooting saves bits.

  • Jen (unregistered) in reply to blunder
    blunder:
    I would ideally like to meet a lady with a strong Java/C++ background but maybe PHP is your thing !

    I realize now that it looks like weird spam, but this is a link to a sort of relevant Achewood comic.

    Cute comic. I'm a girl; I'm a php programmer. I do websites but not design. I used to be a cobol programmer and taught a c++ class at the local community college. We may be rare but we do exist. :)

  • mos (unregistered)

    My moment was when my boss told me not to "waste time" doing any unit testing, in a meeting where we were going to talk about "best practices" and "how to stop all those bugs that seem to keep reappearing."

  • SlimDolphin (unregistered) in reply to Michael

    Recently hired as the "all-in-one" IT of a small company, I quickly changed support vendors after the CIO told me that our wireless issues were ". . . definitely caused by Doppler interference."

  • Arvind (unregistered)

    oh no-no-no-no, I shouldn't have posted a comment here. For security purposes, of course. But oh, no-no-no-no, I have a firewall which is there to keep me safe. So, no-no-no-no need to worry.

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