The Daily WTF: Curious Perversions in Information Technology

Richard Nixon · 2005-09-09 Reply Admin

emptyset:
Richard Nixon:
Where's the argument? The guy is an idiot whose life is so shallow that he still talks about some discussion he had with a libertarian on a different message board months ago. It wouldn't be sporting of me to argue with him very strongly.

yet you insist on having the last word of some sort. i'm confused. i think i've just offended your libertarian views, and this has upset you.

i find it hilarious you resurrect a dying thread in order to post "nope! didn't read any of it!"

as for shallow, posting about old threads doesn't hold a candle to carrying around minature labrador retrievers in man-purses, so i'm failing to see the connection here.

Richard Nixon:

So I attempted to defuse the situation by offering congratulations on a job well done with the sheer volume of words he assembled and then informed him that it was of no interest to me. I took the high road. You sir, may now go pound sand.

the high road of insulting people? after reading the side bar thread on insurance, it's pretty evident you're just trying to antogonize people. so who's the shallow/rude one here?

Where did I ever claim to be a libertarian?

I would have the same reaction if you had claimed to have had a debate with a Democrat, Republican, Communist, etc. Message board arguments are so trivial and so pedestrian [case in point] that I just found it sad and pathetic that someone would reference one from a different message board. Simple as that.

Take care!

emptyset · 2005-09-09 Reply Admin

Richard Nixon:

Where did I ever claim to be a libertarian?

you didn't. my comments seemed to infuriate you, and the comments you've posted on the insurance thread make you sound like one. it's a perfectly reasonable inference.

Richard Nixon:

I would have the same reaction if you had claimed to have had a debate with a Democrat, Republican, Communist, etc. Message board arguments are so trivial and so pedestrian [case in point] that I just found it sad and pathetic that someone would reference one from a different message board. Simple as that.

so, does it also upset you when people reference web articles, blogs, and other online media? i fail to see how that's any different, much less sad and pathetic.

it's also interesting you think an online argument is "trivial" and "pedestrian", because you purposefully antagonized somebody into one in the insurance thread.

posting is a recreational activity for me because i find it comical people get upset about really dumb things, and then defend their anger tooth and nail. i mean, consider your possible objectives here:

0. you just want call me sad and pathetic.
1. you're trying to get me to admit i've done something sad
and pathetic through my posting activity.

baby, please. the latter could be said of everyone posting here, making fun of coding errors, while they should be working. isn't that sad and pathetic, too?

Richard Nixon · 2005-09-09 Reply Admin

emptyset:
you didn't. my comments seemed to infuriate you, and the comments you've posted on the insurance thread make you sound like one. it's a perfectly reasonable inference.

Well, I'm not a libertarian. My displeasure with you stems completely from your citation of an online argument - not who you were arguing with. I am glad that we can clear that up.

emptyset:
so, does it also upset you when people reference web articles, blogs, and other online media? i fail to see how that's any different, much less sad and pathetic.

You don't see how an account of an uncited argument on a message board by one of the participants in that argument is different from a web article? Really? You really don't see the difference? Come on...think about it.

emptyset:
it's also interesting you think an online argument is "trivial" and "pedestrian", because you purposefully antagonized somebody into one in the insurance thread.

Hey, I think food from McDonalds is bad for me - that doesn't mean I don't eat it from time to time. Of course, six months down the road, I don't bring up how great the meal was with total strangers. Or, for that matter, bring it up with friends. I enjoy the food while I am eating it and let it go [literally and figuratively] after that. You, on the other hand, chose to mention the meal - which I found out of place and without any value. I hope this metaphor will clearly demonstrate to you what my thinking on the subject is. [And then, once you understand where I am coming from, you won't need to childishly troll my forum posts.]

Have a great day!

emptyset · 2005-09-09 Reply Admin

Richard Nixon:


emptyset:
so, does it also upset you when people reference web articles, blogs, and other online media? i fail to see how that's any different, much less sad and pathetic.

You don't see how an account of an uncited argument on a message board by one of the participants in that argument is different from a web article? Really? You really don't see the difference? Come on...think about it.

try reading, again. i don't see the difference in referencing one form of material over another. granted, not the best source of information, but my aim wasn't accuracy.

if you're trying to make some claim about bias, good luck with that objectivism.

Richard Nixon:

[snip "analogy"]- which I found out of place and without any value. I hope this metaphor will clearly demonstrate to you what my thinking on the subject is.

if indeed your sole purpose for antagonizing me was simply because you felt compelled to inform me that my post was "out of place and without any value", you've added absolutely no value to the discussion by pointing that out. however, i don't think you're sad and pathetic for it. i think you're just taking the boards WAY too seriously, which is just symptomatic of something else entirely.

if everyone had something meaningful, insightful, and well-researched to say in every post they made, boards/newsgroups/whatever would suck ass. it would be like going to a amusement park full of austere booths where amish-types spoke to you in latin. i like to add to the general comedy and mayhem on the boards, not police others around with some arbitrary rules of conduct.

Richard Nixon:

[And then, once you understand where I am coming from, you won't need to childishly troll my forum posts.]

follow your own advice.

Richard Nixon · 2005-09-09 Reply Admin

emptyset:
try reading, again. i don't see the difference in referencing one form of material over another. granted, not the best source of information, but my aim wasn't accuracy.
if you're trying to make some claim about bias, good luck with that objectivism.

Referencing does not preclude a citation to the source material. I believe that you are implying that "referencing" [which you so boldly put in italics] is different than citing. Check the dictionary. Or, to be obnoxious like you, try reading again! Since you don't have to cognative capacity to figure this out - discussing a web article is different than discussing some random argument between two knuckleheads for this reason: a web article is designed to be of interest to an audience and is expected to be presented in such a way. On the other hand, an argument between two people [one who is obviously not that bright] is a series of exchanges that is primarily designed for the people who are following the thread. Showing up months after the exchange has taken place requires a commitment of resources from a third party that is hardly warranted in the case here where the argument did not even have anything to do with the subject of this particular topic. Even citing an argument you had on a topic that is somewhat related to the topic of this forum post would be an oddity.

emptyset:
if indeed your sole purpose for antagonizing me was simply because you felt compelled to inform me that my post was "out of place and without any value", you've added absolutely no value to the discussion by pointing that out. however, i don't think you're sad and pathetic for it. i think you're just taking the boards WAY too seriously, which is just symptomatic of something else entirely.

Thank you for the analysis. I really appreciate it.

emptyset:
if everyone had something meaningful, insightful, and well-researched to say in every post they made, boards/newsgroups/whatever would suck ass. it would be like going to a amusement park full of austere booths where amish-types spoke to you in latin. i like to add to the general comedy and mayhem on the boards, not police others around with some arbitrary rules of conduct.

Are you affirming that your reference to an argument you had months ago on a separate forum was neither meaningful, insightful, nor well-researched? If that is the case, I agree with you entirely. Your post had no value. And as long as you're doing analysis of my psyche, let's do some of yours. What kind of person is still thinking and bragging about an argument that happened on the Internet months ago? The type of person that is missing something in his life.

emptyset:
follow your own advice.

I have not gone through forum posts that I had previously not been involved in and posted there merely because you had posted. You have done this to me. You should follow my advice and not troll my posts. Your point is invalid since I have not behaved the same way towards you.

Have a great weekend!

emptyset · 2005-09-12 Reply Admin

Richard Nixon:
Even citing an argument you had on a topic that is somewhat related to the topic of this forum post would be an oddity.

that's all it was, until somebody decided to shit a brick over it and personally attack me.

Richard Nixon:
And as long as you're doing analysis of my psyche, let's do some of yours. What kind of person is still thinking and bragging about an argument that happened on the Internet months ago? The type of person that is missing something in his life.

you are totally right! holy shit! i have terrible self-esteem problems because i've only defined myself through newsgroup posts all my life! i've placed so much importance and self-worth on winning flame wars! what was i thinking to personally invest so much of myself as an avatar on a forum? you've shown me and the whole world i'm a completely worthless human being based off reading a series of posts! your insight and understanding of people through what they post is SPOOKY.

Richard Nixon:
Your point is invalid since I have not behaved the same way towards you.

"And as long as you're doing analysis of my psyche, let's do some of yours."
"Or, to be obnoxious like you, try reading again!"
"[one who is obviously not that bright]"
"Stuff involving testicles at one point..."
"The guy is an idiot whose life is so shallow [...]"
"It's a shame you're also so stupid."
"I just found it sad and pathetic that someone [...]"

it's all good, and speaks for itself. if all you wish to do is antogonize people who don't agree with your libertarian views, go right ahead. just don't drive through my neighborhood because it'll cost you $1.75.

Richard Nixon · 2005-09-12 Reply Admin

emptyset:
Richard Nixon:
Even citing an argument you had on a topic that is somewhat related to the topic of this forum post would be an oddity.

that's all it was, until somebody decided to shit a brick over it and personally attack me.

Richard Nixon:
And as long as you're doing analysis of my psyche, let's do some of yours. What kind of person is still thinking and bragging about an argument that happened on the Internet months ago? The type of person that is missing something in his life.

you are totally right! holy shit! i have terrible self-esteem problems because i've only defined myself through newsgroup posts all my life! i've placed so much importance and self-worth on winning flame wars! what was i thinking to personally invest so much of myself as an avatar on a forum? you've shown me and the whole world i'm a completely worthless human being based off reading a series of posts! your insight and understanding of people through what they post is SPOOKY.

Richard Nixon:
Your point is invalid since I have not behaved the same way towards you.

"And as long as you're doing analysis of my psyche, let's do some of yours."
"Or, to be obnoxious like you, try reading again!"
"[one who is obviously not that bright]"
"Stuff involving testicles at one point..."
"The guy is an idiot whose life is so shallow [...]"
"It's a shame you're also so stupid."
"I just found it sad and pathetic that someone [...]"

it's all good, and speaks for itself. if all you wish to do is antogonize people who don't agree with your libertarian views, go right ahead. just don't drive through my neighborhood because it'll cost you $1.75.

Again, I am not a libertarian.
Again, I was criticizing the fact that you went to other posts of mine and replied to my posts even though you had no previous interest in the thread. You quote posts from this thread. This shows, once again, you're not that bright.

Take care!

emptyset · 2005-09-12 Reply Admin

Richard Nixon:
Again, I am not a libertarian.

it's totally ok if you are. i apologize if i come across as a little harsh towards libertarians. it's just that you guys crack me up!

Richard Nixon:
Again, I was criticizing the fact that you went to other posts of mine and replied to my posts even though you had no previous interest in the thread.

like i said, SPOOKY insights. how did you know i had no previous interest in the thread? it's amazing. you would make millions if you follow ms. cleo's lead and advertise your extraordinary powers of perception at 3 am on public access. it's SPOOKY.

and now you're also against people replying to posts.

Richard Nixon:
You quote posts from this thread. This shows, once again, you're not that bright.

richard nixon: the psychic, the libertarian, the logician.

Mike R · 2005-09-12 Reply Admin

emptyset:
Richard Nixon:
Again, I am not a libertarian.

it's totally ok if you are. i apologize if i come across as a little harsh towards libertarians. it's just that you guys crack me up!

This statement seems to me like someone who enjoys jabbing a stick at a snarling canine thats in a cage, just to see how pissed he/she can make it...

[:)]

emptyset · 2005-09-12 Reply Admin

Mike R:
This statement seems to me like someone who enjoys jabbing a stick at a snarling canine thats in a cage, just to see how pissed he/she can make it...

although i've not been too many dog fights, from what i have seen, jabbing them with a stick before a fight would be considered humane.

for a summary of this thread:

emptyset: "i don't understand why a bug crawled up your ass when i randomly decided to bash libertarians. you must be a libertarian. don't take it personal."

richard nixon: "i'm not a libertarian! you must be a sad and pathetic man for making a random post on a public forum! you're stupid because you quote posts! i have gotten to know you well enough on thedailywtf.com to conclude you have self-esteem problems and put your self-worth into the forum posts. and you are not bright!"

emptyset: "our penguin ran out of coffee at IHOP."

Mike R · 2005-09-12 Reply Admin

emptyset:
Mike R:
This statement seems to me like someone who enjoys jabbing a stick at a snarling canine thats in a cage, just to see how pissed he/she can make it...

although i've not been too many dog fights, from what i have seen, jabbing them with a stick before a fight would be considered humane.

for a summary of this thread:

emptyset: "i don't understand why a bug crawled up your ass when i randomly decided to bash libertarians. you must be a libertarian. don't take it personal."

richard nixon: "i'm not a libertarian! you must be a sad and pathetic man for making a random post on a public forum! you're stupid because you quote posts! i have gotten to know you well enough on thedailywtf.com to conclude you have self-esteem problems and put your self-worth into the forum posts. and you are not bright!"

emptyset: "our penguin ran out of coffee at IHOP."

Yeah, I've been pretty much following it. Mr Nixon seems to be a bit irritable, which is where I dug the analogy from. Of course, I don't recall a post about a penguin running out of coffee... But, then again....

emptyset · 2005-09-12 Reply Admin

Mike R:
Yeah, I've been pretty much following it. Mr Nixon seems to be a bit irritable, which is where I dug the analogy from. Of course, I don't recall a post about a penguin running out of coffee... But, then again....

i've pretty much concluded he's a libertarian. it's the only logical explanation for his behavior, and why my post would upset him so. he probably also collects silver as well. it seems to be a hobby particular to libertarians.

speaking of coffee...

Richard Nixon · 2005-09-12 Reply Admin

emptyset:
Mike R:
Yeah, I've been pretty much following it. Mr Nixon seems to be a bit irritable, which is where I dug the analogy from. Of course, I don't recall a post about a penguin running out of coffee... But, then again....

i've pretty much concluded he's a libertarian. it's the only logical explanation for his behavior, and why my post would upset him so. he probably also collects silver as well. it seems to be a hobby particular to libertarians.

speaking of coffee...

Why is this so hard for you to understand? Banter back and forth with the guy that expects no consequences after he goes into debt because he can't manage his savings all you like; it does not change the fact that you brought up a conversation that had no relevance to this conversation.

I pointed it out because not only was it completely off-topic but you also seemed proud of the fact that you had and, in your mind, won an argument on the Internet. For the third time, I am not a libertarian. The fact that you believe I am shows that you still can't get your head around my fundamental point.

Having arguments on the Internet is not something you should brag about months later. Simple as that.

Go ahead and make your funny quips about Miss Cleo and whatever else you'd like to bring up - it merely shows that you can't defend your position. There was no good reason for you to mention your little debate.

Richard Nixon · 2005-09-12 Reply Admin

emptyset:
Mike R:
This statement seems to me like someone who enjoys jabbing a stick at a snarling canine thats in a cage, just to see how pissed he/she can make it...

although i've not been too many dog fights, from what i have seen, jabbing them with a stick before a fight would be considered humane.

for a summary of this thread:

emptyset: "i don't understand why a bug crawled up your ass when i randomly decided to bash libertarians. you must be a libertarian. don't take it personal."

richard nixon: "i'm not a libertarian! you must be a sad and pathetic man for making a random post on a public forum! you're stupid because you quote posts! i have gotten to know you well enough on thedailywtf.com to conclude you have self-esteem problems and put your self-worth into the forum posts. and you are not bright!"

emptyset: "our penguin ran out of coffee at IHOP."

The fact that you represent my part of this conversation in such a way [the exclamation points, tone, etc.] would suggest to me that you didn't even win the argument you had with the libertarian in The Historical Emptyset vs. Libertarian Debate of Many Months Ago. You lied about what I've said here. The conclusion is you lie about what other people say all the time.

emptyset · 2005-09-12 Reply Admin

Richard Nixon:
Banter back and forth with the guy that expects no consequences after he goes into debt because he can't manage his savings all you like;

that's exactly how a libertarian would respond to his situation, when indeed, him and others in the same boat suffer consequences that can't be solved by the kind of free-market economy libertarians desire.

Richard Nixon:

I pointed it out because not only was it completely off-topic but you also seemed proud of the fact that you had and, in your mind, won an argument on the Internet.

and i hope it feels good.

Richard Nixon:
For the third time, I am not a libertarian. The fact that you believe I am shows that you still can't get your head around my fundamental point.

yes, this 'fact' truly implies i am unable to understand your point.

Richard Nixon:
Having arguments on the Internet is not something you should brag about months later. Simple as that.

but how can i hope to leave a legacy with so much of my ego at stake here? please tell me more SPOOKY insights about myself so i can become a better human being.

Richard Nixon:
Go ahead and make your funny quips about Miss Cleo and whatever else you'd like to bring up - it merely shows that you can't defend your position. There was no good reason for you to mention your little debate.

when did i have a position to defend?

emptyset · 2005-09-12 Reply Admin

Richard Nixon:
you didn't even win the argument you had with the libertarian in The Historical Emptyset vs. Libertarian Debate of Many Months Ago.

don't bring up old arguments from other forums! it makes you look sad and pathetic. focus on this argument!

Richard Nixon · 2005-09-12 Reply Admin

emptyset:
Richard Nixon:
Banter back and forth with the guy that expects no consequences after he goes into debt because he can't manage his savings all you like;

that's exactly how a libertarian would respond to his situation, when indeed, him and others in the same boat suffer consequences that can't be solved by the kind of free-market economy libertarians desire.


Richard Nixon:

I pointed it out because not only was it completely off-topic but you also seemed proud of the fact that you had and, in your mind, won an argument on the Internet.

and i hope it feels good.

Richard Nixon:
For the third time, I am not a libertarian. The fact that you believe I am shows that you still can't get your head around my fundamental point.

yes, this 'fact' truly implies i am unable to understand your point.

Richard Nixon:
Having arguments on the Internet is not something you should brag about months later. Simple as that.

but how can i hope to leave a legacy with so much of my ego at stake here? please tell me more SPOOKY insights about myself so i can become a better human being.

Richard Nixon:
Go ahead and make your funny quips about Miss Cleo and whatever else you'd like to bring up - it merely shows that you can't defend your position. There was no good reason for you to mention your little debate.

when did i have a position to defend?

Take care of yourself.

emptyset · 2005-09-12 Reply Admin

Richard Nixon:

Take care of yourself.

the core belief of the libertarian.

Mike R · 2005-09-12 Reply Admin

Richard Nixon:
emptyset:
Mike R:
Yeah, I've been pretty much following it. Mr Nixon seems to be a bit irritable, which is where I dug the analogy from. Of course, I don't recall a post about a penguin running out of coffee... But, then again....

i've pretty much concluded he's a libertarian. it's the only logical explanation for his behavior, and why my post would upset him so. he probably also collects silver as well. it seems to be a hobby particular to libertarians.

speaking of coffee...

Why is this so hard for you to understand? Banter back and forth with the guy that expects no consequences after he goes into debt because he can't manage his savings all you like; it does not change the fact that you brought up a conversation that had no relevance to this conversation.

[hijack]
I don't know quite how or why this is relavent to this conversation. And for the record I did not once say I didn't expect consequences and it was really immaterial to the subject to begin with. I was making a statement about the anti-consumer ways insurance companies treat people. Of course, I'm just totally full of shit because I didn't "manage my savings"
[/hijack]

emptyset · 2005-09-12 Reply Admin

Mike R:
[hijack]
I don't know quite how or why this is relavent to this conversation. And for the record I did not once say I didn't expect consequences and it was really immaterial to the subject to begin with. I was making a statement about the anti-consumer ways insurance companies treat people. Of course, I'm just totally full of shit because I didn't "manage my savings"
[/hijack]

on a personal note, i've been thoroughly entertained by having an off-topic argument about the validity of bringing up arguments on the web (which itself was off-topic), in which another, unrelated argument was brought up.

2005-09-12 Reply Admin

I'll transfer my BizTalk Server 2004 license to your customer for $457,000 (USD). It should save them a little over $3 million in integration costs.[I]

Mike R · 2005-09-13 Reply Admin

Anonymous:
I'll transfer my BizTalk Server 2004 license to your customer for $457,000 (USD). It should save them a little over $3 million in integration costs.[I]

OMG! An on-topic post!!

Yeah, but they've already spent that $3M on this Rube Goldberg system.

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