• (cs) in reply to Franz Kafka
    Franz Kafka:
    Joe:
    Oh, and I have a Mustang. So that V8 offsets any minor change some hippy tries to make everyday. I love it.

    What is it with people bragging about wasting stuff? Sure, the hippies can be annoying, but that doesn't mean you aren't a crass bastard for bragging about your V8 and all its gas usage.

    Brag? WTFing?

    You're missing an important point here, Franz Kafka. Anybody who even dares to mention the word "Mustang" post, oh, I dunno, 1975 or so is a self-certified cretin. Late model Chevrolet Z28s are the way you want to go. Just make sure it's a six-speed manual.

    Gas usage? Use them for fun, and have something like a Honda Civic on the side for commuting purposes.

    (On the record: I do like the looks of the open-top retro T-Bird. I suspect the performance is lousy, but what the heck? If a seagull shits on my head, I'd like it to think that its life is worthwhile...)

  • (cs) in reply to pauldwaite
    pauldwaite:
    Non-IT departments are awesome. Hellos, doughnuts, and sometimes they even have women there.
    What are these "women" whereof you speak?
  • Mike (unregistered) in reply to Marcel
    Marcel:
    Ahh, reminds me of the old "Ice on the thermostat" trick, which would usually lead to all heating shutting down due to shortcircuits in said thermostat.

    CAPTCHA: Doom, indeed.

    A damp paper towel will do the trick, too, through the magic of evaporation. "Let's do some science!"

  • Vrooom (unregistered) in reply to real_aardvark
    real_aardvark:
    Franz Kafka:
    Joe:
    Oh, and I have a Mustang. So that V8 offsets any minor change some hippy tries to make everyday. I love it.

    What is it with people bragging about wasting stuff? Sure, the hippies can be annoying, but that doesn't mean you aren't a crass bastard for bragging about your V8 and all its gas usage.

    Brag? WTFing?

    You're missing an important point here, Franz Kafka. Anybody who even dares to mention the word "Mustang" post, oh, I dunno, 1975 or so is a self-certified cretin. Late model Chevrolet Z28s are the way you want to go. Just make sure it's a six-speed manual.

    Gas usage? Use them for fun, and have something like a Honda Civic on the side for commuting purposes.

    (On the record: I do like the looks of the open-top retro T-Bird. I suspect the performance is lousy, but what the heck? If a seagull shits on my head, I'd like it to think that its life is worthwhile...)

    Obviously, you're not a car guy.

  • Jean Naimard (unregistered) in reply to Mark
    Mark:
    we discovered we could go out side, grab and hand full of snow and stuff it in the thermostat. Then things would be nice and toasty so we could get our naps in.
    It’s like in our appartment building’s sauna, whose thermostat has been set to a ridiculous low value, so the trick is to stick a wet towel on the temperature sensor and voilà, hotter sauna…
  • Jean Naimard (unregistered) in reply to Daniel
    Daniel:
    Just wear more clothes--you'll need them if you want to step outside even for a few seconds!

    I keep my house temperature at 15°C during winter, and it is still comfy enough to go around naked. But, again, I have indian blood, so YMMV…

  • NotAHippy (unregistered) in reply to Warpedcow
    Warpedcow:
    We do NOT share resources. We spend our dollars and buy resources in a (relatively) free market. Why I buy as much or as little of said resources is no business of yours, since you aren't paying for them.

    But resources ARE shared. When oil runs out because some careless people have used it all up on their penis replacements, it has run out for everyone. Just because the US government subsidises fuel prices because they are owned by car manufacturers & oil companies, does not make it right for some people to say that it's OK for them to waste energy.

    Also, the whole planet suffers from the CO2 emissions from everyone on the planet. The CO2 cloud that the USA makes (over twice the CO2 per capita than in the UK, and nearly 4 times that of France) doesn't just stay over the USA, it affects those people in Africa who have more droughts etc because of it. So, that big car you run 'for fun', and drive badly because you like annoying "hippies" is effectively killing people.

    But, of course, that doesn't matter, because the 'USA' is the "whole world" as we all know - nowhere else really exists except as a set for the Discovery channel... Tigers won't really become extinct, they can just do re-runs.

    Concern for people other than themselves is something that a lot of people see as lacking in the US. Having visited there I can say that this is an incorrect generalisation, as most of the Americans I spoke to were equally worried about the lack of care of some of their fellow citizens. However, certain people in this thread do seem to be reinforcing the idea...

  • Ben (unregistered) in reply to Mike
    Mike:
    So, they even had to wear sweaters? Isn't that considered common sense in the winter? or would that only be in Europe?
    I don't know where you live, but from my experience in Ohio, common sense to most people means "wear flip flops and a tank top throughout December and January and make sure the temperature of the building is at least 90F. If it isn't, complain until it is."

    It looks like most people have the same view:

    PeriSoft:
    I would absolutely love it if pompous, self-congratulatory blowhards like you would stop trying to tell everybody else how to live.

    The satisfying thing is that I can offset the entire difference ten of you jackasses make to the environment by accelerating hard away from every full stop. It costs a bit more, but it's money well spent. Fun, too.

    Joe:
    Johny Carter did that. He told America to just "put on a sweater" during the energy crisis. Dumbass.

    If someone wants to live with less, fine. But I'll continue doing what I want. You leave me alone, I leave you alone.

    Oh, and I have a Mustang. So that V8 offsets any minor change some hippy tries to make everyday. I love it.

    The problem is, in office situations, it's not so much "you leave me alone, I leave you alone" as it is "even though it's below freezing outside, I'm going to dress in summer clothes like a retard, so you have to do so as well or else you'll die of heat exhaustion"

  • wayne hastings (unregistered)

    Similarly, I had a coworker complain their computer monitor wasn't working. It went black. When I got to the office, their all in one computer had a HUGE stack of paper sitting on top of the top monitor vents. So it was overheating the computer to the point it would shut off. Good times.

  • craaazy (unregistered) in reply to NiceWTF
    NiceWTF:
    65 Fahrenheit is ca. 18,3 degrees Celsius. I consider that a very decent room temperature. I usually set the thermostat to 18 or 19 degrees (Celsius), myself.
    65F is decent room temperature? No, 80F is too cold. 90F is perfect indoor temperature.
  • Amit (unregistered) in reply to Franz Kafka
    Franz Kafka:
    Troy Mclure:
    lol - Reminds me of my high school but in the reverse. They had air-conditioning (and yes it WAS a public school before you ask). Well for some unknown reason it must have been set on Meat Locker because it was always freezing. So everyone would open the windows to let in the warm air to warm up.

    No matter how many times the teachers explained that the AC actually got colder when the windows were opened, it didnt stop people. And thus started a vicious cycle of AC tag.

    sure, the vent is colder, but you can overpower it by opening more windows.

    Just like computers, AC does not function when windows are open

  • Erock (unregistered)

    This happened in the pharmacy I used to work in. They installed the temperature sensor for the thermostat DIRECTLY behind the exhaust fan on our file server. Until they moved the sensor it was so bad that we actually wore gloves on some days...

  • Brandon (unregistered) in reply to Mark

    So between freezing and napping, the notion of proof-reading, perhaps even writing in English, was missed entirely.

  • Brandon (unregistered) in reply to Mark
    Mark:
    This reminds me of when I was in high School.

    As where all aware high schools in the USA are underfunded. So how did mine cope? They kept the heat at like 65 degrees. Unable to adjust the thermostats (because they where tamper proof), and sick and tired of freezing our asses off, we discovered we could go out side, grab and hand full of snow and stuff it in the thermostat. Then things would be nice and toasty so we could get our naps in.

    So between freezing and napping, the notion of proof-reading, perhaps even writing in English, was missed entirely.

  • some guy (unregistered)

    Reminds me of a time we were attending a conference, the hotel room was hot all the time. Supposedly the temperatures for the rooms could not (would not) be changed.

    We solved this problem by duct taping a wireless AP to the thermostat in the room :)

  • Mike (unregistered)

    devin is awesome. True engineering spirit. We can ALL learn something from that.

  • blah... (unregistered) in reply to Herohtar

    Everyone loves sarcasm!

  • ELIZA (unregistered) in reply to Warpedcow
    Warpedcow:
    dkf:
    Joe:
    If someone wants to live with less, fine. But I'll continue doing what I want. You leave me alone, I leave you alone.
    So long as you're willing to pay for it at market rates, that's fine. But don't ask me to subsidize your wastefulness, OK?

    I don't want you to subsidize my wastefullness, I just want you to stop taxing it.

    Okaaay, you probably accept taxes on income and sales (if you don't, how do you expect to have roads, etcetera to be wasteful on) but as soon as taxes touch your wasteful fuel purchases, you say it is unfair.
    Warpedcow:
    Kuba:
    If you lived on another planet, I'd agree. Now, the thing is that we all share the resources, which are limited. It's unfortunate how wasteful is the American lifestyle. Noticing that fact, and encouraging everyone to save energy is hardly pompous or self-congratulatory IMHO. It's the only sane thing to do.

    If all humans on earth collectively owned all resources on earth, you'd have a point. However, the earth is not run by one giant communist country. We do NOT share resources. We spend our dollars and buy resources in a (relatively) free market. Why I buy as much or as little of said resources is no business of yours, since you aren't paying for them.

    Sigh.... I really should have bought my own enclosed parcel of atmosphere when I had a chance. Seriously, you have a right to pollute if you collect all of the pollutants and take them home and breathe them in your own house or arrange for their disposal. If you are unable or unwilling to do so, then the state has a valid interest in regulating your pollution. May I suggest fitting your car with an exhaust-gas collector so that the fumes of your Otto-petrol do not invade the air over public lands, such as highways, to which your state is sovereign? Or perhaps just shut up about the matter until you read about theTragedy of the Commons. If you do not get it, then know this: The atmosphere is a shared resource, for better or worse, and one vital to the lives and livelihoods of everyone on Earth.

    HINT: It is a WTF to suggest the atmosphere be broken into millions of smaller chunks.

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