• (cs) in reply to Charles400
    Charles400:
    The real WTF is the weather girl on the BBC. Glam her up a bit, at least. Who the hell is responsible for wardrobe and make up? Sheesh!

    maybe she needed to get her clothes back on in a hurry.

  • (cs)

    I like how on the misprinted card, only every other line has a French translation, thereby making it useless to both English speakers and French speakers.

  • (cs) in reply to JoLoCo
    JoLoCo:
    I like how the apartment info shows "1 Bed" but "1.00 Bath" - can an apartment have a fractional bathroom?

    Actually, yes they can. You'll sometimes see adds for houses with 2.5 bathrooms, meaning that they have two full bathrooms (with bathtub / shower) and one with only a toilet & sink.

  • (cs) in reply to pjt33
    pjt33:
    KattMan:
    The math wizards here amaze me. The annual cover price is not a problem, the problem is your price. If I want a 1 year subscription (12 issues) I will pay $12 the first year. If I want a 3 year subscription (36 issues) I will pay $28 the first year and every year after that. That is more than double the price.

    With this, I know I will simply buy a 1 year subscription and do that for the next three years paying only $36 total instead of $84 total.

    No, they're both wrong. Unless you think it's not a problem that the total cover price for 3 years is about 9 times the total cover price for 1 year.

    Who cares about the "actual price", we all know that number is simply a marketing point someone picks out of their butt to stick on the ad copy. The only number that matters is the number you will actually pay.

    I don't care if they say the actual price is the true value, because even that is wrong. The true value of an item is exactly what someone will pay for that item, and since they have to give you a bargain in order for you to buy it, this isn't even the true value.

  • jay (unregistered) in reply to Kermos
    Kermos:
    JoLoCo:
    I like how the apartment info shows "1 Bed" but "1.00 Bath" - can an apartment have a fractional bathroom?

    Actually, yes they can. You'll sometimes see adds for houses with 2.5 bathrooms, meaning that they have two full bathrooms (with bathtub / shower) and one with only a toilet & sink.

    But I've often wondered: Isn't there a flaw to this system? How would you express the idea that a house has 1 full bathroom and 2 half bathrooms? Would you say "2.00 baths"? How would you distinguish that from 2 full bathrooms and zero half bathrooms?

    The problem, of course, is that some genius realtor somewhere along the line said, "Hey, let's cram two data elements -- number of rooms with a toilet and a bathtub and also the number of rooms with just a toilet -- into a single field! That will save one line when we print out a description of the house!"

    When will people learn this elementary lesson: One fact per field!

  • (cs) in reply to dcardani
    dcardani:
    I like how on the misprinted card, only every other line has a French translation, thereby making it useless to both English speakers and French speakers.

    All Canadians are bilingual. Duh.

  • Bim Job (unregistered) in reply to pitchingchris
    pitchingchris:
    Charles400:
    The real WTF is the weather girl on the BBC. Glam her up a bit, at least. Who the hell is responsible for wardrobe and make up? Sheesh!

    maybe she needed to get her clothes back on in a hurry.

    Strangely enough, I was actually in "the Puce Room" and can attest to the wardrobe malfunction. Ms Name is a highly-qualified presenter. Admittedly, what with a degree from Cambridge in Mandarin, Portuguese, and Tofu, she's more qualified for a spot on Newsnight; but you've got to admire her balls. (I believe she left them in the Gucci handbag, back in the Puce Room.)

    At least she's not a pointless ignorant young blonde bimbo of the sort that presents the weather in, say, Atlanta. No. She has class. Probably lower-upper-middle, but that's fine. She's also presumably part Farsi, and I have a lot of time for Farsis. Naming your child after what you do is an honourable thing.

    Look. Whip the kit off her, and replace it with a tight T. It's Irish Girl!

  • Josh (unregistered)

    IIRC, The Dumb test is a gimmick test that won't ever give you your result- the 'dumb' part is in the 'how many times will you re-try submitting this form with good data'. So posting this to TDWTF is truly a pinnacle of dumb.

  • The Thing In The Corner (unregistered) in reply to Trevel
    Trevel:
    I really wish people would stop making fun of Miss Name. She's done quite well for herself, all things considered, and I think deserves respect for succeeding despite her truly horrific name. Fortunately, after she marries her fiance, she'll be much better off as Presenter Tyme.
    Is his name Justin?
  • Coward (unregistered) in reply to KattMan

    OMG, the coffee has finally absorbed and I now see the WTF. /FACEPALM

    It obviously should have been printed something like this: [image]

    KattMan:
    pjt33:
    KattMan:
    The math wizards here amaze me. The annual cover price is not a problem, the problem is your price. If I want a 1 year subscription (12 issues) I will pay $12 the first year. If I want a 3 year subscription (36 issues) I will pay $28 the first year and every year after that. That is more than double the price.

    With this, I know I will simply buy a 1 year subscription and do that for the next three years paying only $36 total instead of $84 total.

    No, they're both wrong. Unless you think it's not a problem that the total cover price for 3 years is about 9 times the total cover price for 1 year.

    Who cares about the "actual price", we all know that number is simply a marketing point someone picks out of their butt to stick on the ad copy. The only number that matters is the number you will actually pay.

    I don't care if they say the actual price is the true value, because even that is wrong. The true value of an item is exactly what someone will pay for that item, and since they have to give you a bargain in order for you to buy it, this isn't even the true value.

  • IT Girl (unregistered) in reply to JuanCarlosII
    JuanCarlosII:
    galgorah:
    yes it can have a half bath.

    definition from answers.com: A room in a residence that contains a toilet and wash basin but no bathing facilities, such as a bathtub or shower stall. A three-quarter bath contains a shower but no bathtub. Example: The two-story home has two full baths upstairs and a half bath downstairs

    So TRWTF is calling a room, which does not contain a bath, a bathroom.

    Save yourself the headache and call it a "powder room" like us girls do.

  • Lego (unregistered) in reply to IT Girl
    IT Girl:
    JuanCarlosII:
    galgorah:
    yes it can have a half bath.

    definition from answers.com: A room in a residence that contains a toilet and wash basin but no bathing facilities, such as a bathtub or shower stall. A three-quarter bath contains a shower but no bathtub. Example: The two-story home has two full baths upstairs and a half bath downstairs

    So TRWTF is calling a room, which does not contain a bath, a bathroom.

    What sort of powder do you expect us guys to be using in the pissoir, gun powder? Not sure I'd like to be using the facilities while someone is messing around with explosives!

    Save yourself the headache and call it a "powder room" like us girls do.

  • Lego (unregistered) in reply to Lego
    Lego:
    IT Girl:
    JuanCarlosII:
    galgorah:
    yes it can have a half bath.

    definition from answers.com: A room in a residence that contains a toilet and wash basin but no bathing facilities, such as a bathtub or shower stall. A three-quarter bath contains a shower but no bathtub. Example: The two-story home has two full baths upstairs and a half bath downstairs

    So TRWTF is calling a room, which does not contain a bath, a bathroom.

    Save yourself the headache and call it a "powder room" like us girls do.

    GAAAH! FAIL!

    Should have been:

    What sort of powder do you expect us guys to be using in the pissoir, gun powder? Not sure I'd like to be using the facilities while someone is messing around with explosives!

    Captcha: damnum! Exactly.

  • IT Girl (unregistered) in reply to Lego
    Lego:
    Lego:
    IT Girl:
    JuanCarlosII:
    galgorah:
    yes it can have a half bath.

    definition from answers.com: A room in a residence that contains a toilet and wash basin but no bathing facilities, such as a bathtub or shower stall. A three-quarter bath contains a shower but no bathtub. Example: The two-story home has two full baths upstairs and a half bath downstairs

    So TRWTF is calling a room, which does not contain a bath, a bathroom.

    Save yourself the headache and call it a "powder room" like us girls do.

    GAAAH! FAIL!

    Should have been:

    What sort of powder do you expect us guys to be using in the pissoir, gun powder? Not sure I'd like to be using the facilities while someone is messing around with explosives!

    Captcha: damnum! Exactly.

    A little talcum never hurt anyone.. as for the explosions.. well, that's a whole other story now isn't it?

  • NH (unregistered) in reply to Yeah

    For that $0.79 you should have had a donut as a bonus!

  • NH (unregistered) in reply to Kermos

    Then it isn't a bathroom, it's a toilet!

    So technically it's a house with 2 bathrooms and 1 extra toilet.

  • Clayton (unregistered)

    Re: deposit amount

    4,294,967,295 is the highest number you can get to in 32 bits.

    Does that mean they had intended to ask for more, and the computer rounded it down?

  • Charlie (unregistered) in reply to Lego
    Lego:
    IT Girl:
    JuanCarlosII:
    galgorah:
    yes it can have a half bath.

    definition from answers.com: A room in a residence that contains a toilet and wash basin but no bathing facilities, such as a bathtub or shower stall. A three-quarter bath contains a shower but no bathtub. Example: The two-story home has two full baths upstairs and a half bath downstairs

    So TRWTF is calling a room, which does not contain a bath, a bathroom.

    What sort of powder do you expect us guys to be using in the pissoir, gun powder? Not sure I'd like to be using the facilities while someone is messing around with explosives!

    Save yourself the headache and call it a "powder room" like us girls do.

    But then what discreet term would we use for the cocaine room?

  • Robert (unregistered) in reply to NH
    NH:
    Then it isn't a bathroom, it's a toilet!

    So technically it's a house with 2 bathrooms and 1 extra toilet.

    I Sweden we call it a toilet, and anything with a shower or bathtub a bathroom. Usually this is presented separately as the number of rooms are more important than the combined number of features. Sometimes a toilet may be called a guest toilet, for obvious purposes.

  • (cs) in reply to coward
    coward:
    Annual cover price is just the amount that would be paid annually for N*12 issues..? Why does anyone have a problem with that?

    Because Popular Science is a monthly magazine.

    (and even if a magazine did print 36 issues a year, it would be bizarre for them to offer a subscription to only a subset of these)

  • iMalc (unregistered)

    Damn, I'd be a little happier if the deposit was -$1 instead. Maybe with that coupon I could almost make 2 bucks!

  • fishbat (unregistered) in reply to merpius
    merpius:
    It is simply a euphemism to save us all from having to call it the shitter. Maybe you prefer comfort room? water closet? rest room?

    The chod closet

  • author (unregistered) in reply to SCB
    SCB:
    Random832:
    Coward:
    Where is the WTF with the Popular Science Magazine? The discounts are write if you take the result of: Floor("Annual Cover Price"*(100-Discount))

    Except both the "your price" and the cover price by use of the term "annual" are presented as being per year (meaning that with an annual cover price of 179.64 you would pay 538.92 for the three years - or with the 28/year you would be paying $84 for the three years, a much worse deal than three separate 12-month subscriptions for a total of $36)

    It doesn't say anything about "three years". Presumably you have a choice between 12 issues per year, 24 issues per year or 36 issues per year.

    That's how I interpreted it too. From what is shown of the advertising, there is no indication at all that the 36 issues will be spread out over 3 years. Receiving a new issue every 1.44 weeks seems a little odd though.

  • author (unregistered) in reply to KattMan
    KattMan:
    coward:
    Annual cover price is just the amount that would be paid annually for N*12 issues..? Why does anyone have a problem with that?

    The math wizards here amaze me. The annual cover price is not a problem, the problem is your price. If I want a 1 year subscription (12 issues) I will pay $12 the first year. If I want a 3 year subscription (36 issues) I will pay $28 the first year and every year after that. That is more than double the price.

    With this, I know I will simply buy a 1 year subscription and do that for the next three years paying only $36 total instead of $84 total.

    The assumption wizards here amaze me. What makes you think that anything is being sold on a 3 year term?

  • (cs) in reply to Charles400
    Charles400:
    The real WTF is the weather girl on the BBC. Glam her up a bit, at least. Who the hell is responsible for wardrobe and make up? Sheesh!
    Well, I've been there and seen it all happen. The weather people on the BBC (they are far more than presenters - they actually understand it rather than the idiots on many other channels!) are responsible for their own make-up and 'wardrobe'. The make-up department is usually a hand-held mirror and a small bag, the wardrobe it a hanger on the cubical wall (or more like half a cubical when I was there).

    The true marvel is the 'studio' which looks like a closet from the outside and is actually a room or perhaps 12-foot by 18-foot with a huge rear-projection screen diagonally across the room. This projects the same picture the viewers see, but in shades of blue - this means that although the map is keyed the presenter still sees enough to not look stupid when indicating weather features. The camera and a monitor are crammed in one corner of the room facing the screen with just enough room for the weather person between the two (some of them stand on a box to present because the camera is not height-adjustable (or not when I was there)

    Addendum (2009-06-29 19:17): The reason that her outfit is crumpled is that she will have spent half the day preparing the weather maps. They do an endless sequence of forecasts for different channels, including the four main channels and the news channel and separate localized ones for all the regions. All the forecasts and graphics are done by the 'presenters' from data provided by the Met Office, usually just a couple of minutes before rushing through to record it (or for a few do it live)

  • Mike (unregistered) in reply to dcardani
    dcardani:
    I like how on the misprinted card, only every other line has a French translation, thereby making it useless to both English speakers and French speakers.

    Uh. Okay. Sure, we'll go with that.

    Never mind that "TEST D'IMPRESSION" is the translation of "TEST PRINTING MSG" (I guess), and that "DATE" is the same in both English and French.

  • Xythar (unregistered)

    What the heck, I live at 123 Fake St. Is Andrew Young hiding in my basement or something? I'm going down there with a baseball bat right now.

  • (cs) in reply to KattMan
    KattMan:
    coward:
    Annual cover price is just the amount that would be paid annually for N*12 issues..? Why does anyone have a problem with that?

    The math wizards here amaze me. The annual cover price is not a problem, the problem is your price. If I want a 1 year subscription (12 issues) I will pay $12 the first year. If I want a 3 year subscription (36 issues) I will pay $28 the first year and every year after that. That is more than double the price.

    With this, I know I will simply buy a 1 year subscription and do that for the next three years paying only $36 total instead of $84 total.

    That is fantastic marketing. Were you interested in buying any subscriptions at all before you saw this WTF? I suspect not.

  • db (unregistered) in reply to merpius
    merpius:
    JuanCarlosII:
    galgorah:
    yes it can have a half bath.

    definition from answers.com: A room in a residence that contains a toilet and wash basin but no bathing facilities, such as a bathtub or shower stall. A three-quarter bath contains a shower but no bathtub. Example: The two-story home has two full baths upstairs and a half bath downstairs

    So TRWTF is calling a room, which does not contain a bath, a bathroom.

    It is simply a euphemism to save us all from having to call it the shitter. Maybe you prefer comfort room? water closet? rest room?

    Place of metabolic transmigration.

    Don't blame me, blame Wu Cheng'en and his irrepressible stone monkey.

  • ytb (unregistered) in reply to author

    I agree .. there is nowhere that says that 36 issues is over 3 years ... or that 24 is over 2 years old price new price(ronded down) 12 issues per year 59.88 12
    24 issues per year 119.76 20 36 issues per year 179.64 28

    there is no WTF ...

  • (cs)

    Does that last pic also say -0 minutes?

  • Nick (unregistered) in reply to ytb
    ytb:
    I agree .. there is nowhere that says that 36 issues is over 3 years ... or that 24 is over 2 years old price new price(ronded down) 12 issues per year 59.88 12 24 issues per year 119.76 20 36 issues per year 179.64 28

    there is no WTF ...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Science

    "Popular Science is an American monthly magazine..."

  • bwe (unregistered) in reply to Nick
    Nick:
    ytb:
    I agree .. there is nowhere that says that 36 issues is over 3 years ... or that 24 is over 2 years old price new price(ronded down) 12 issues per year 59.88 12 24 issues per year 119.76 20 36 issues per year 179.64 28

    there is no WTF ...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Science

    "Popular Science is an American monthly magazine..."

    they didn't say all issues were different, you just get 3 issues every month... one at home, one at work and one for that crazy homeless guy...

    maybe you could even ask for 36 September issues for all your friends

  • Moe Ronic (unregistered) in reply to author
    author:
    SCB:
    Random832:
    Coward:
    Where is the WTF with the Popular Science Magazine? The discounts are write if you take the result of: Floor("Annual Cover Price"*(100-Discount))

    Except both the "your price" and the cover price by use of the term "annual" are presented as being per year (meaning that with an annual cover price of 179.64 you would pay 538.92 for the three years - or with the 28/year you would be paying $84 for the three years, a much worse deal than three separate 12-month subscriptions for a total of $36)

    It doesn't say anything about "three years". Presumably you have a choice between 12 issues per year, 24 issues per year or 36 issues per year.

    That's how I interpreted it too. From what is shown of the advertising, there is no indication at all that the 36 issues will be spread out over 3 years. Receiving a new issue every 1.44 weeks seems a little odd though.

    It comes on floppy disks, and fill a meg a week.

    captcha: suscipit

  • Coo (unregistered) in reply to Yeah

    but it was 79 cents more, not a penny...

  • (cs) in reply to lolwtf
    lolwtf:
    Does that last pic also say -0 minutes?

    I assumed that was the on-screen display of the DVR, when he hit pause to go grab the camera... It's been paused for less than a minute, but he's still behind "real-time".

  • getofmylawn (unregistered) in reply to merpius
    merpius:
    It is simply a euphemism to save us all from having to call it the shitter. Maybe you prefer comfort room? water closet? rest room?
    I know it is oh-my-god unpolite to call such a room "toilet" in america, but there are still countries in the world that dare to call rooms by their actual use.

    (And pissoir != toilet (see "obvious" translation))

  • See (unregistered) in reply to dcardani
    dcardani:
    I like how on the misprinted card, only every other line has a French translation, thereby making it useless to both English speakers and French speakers.

    I don't understand how you come to this conclusion, the two first lines are basically the same thing but the message is too long for both languages to be on the same line. Then, "Date" is the same in English and French (would you find it less stupid to write "DATE/DATE"?), and the date format is international. And the last line is translated because it needs to be.

    "From anywhere to anyone" doesn't seem to be translated though (but I don't like the "De partout jusqu'à vous" version, anyway... a letter can come from anywhere, but certainly not from everywhere).

  • See (unregistered) in reply to Robert
    Robert:
    NH:
    Then it isn't a bathroom, it's a toilet!

    So technically it's a house with 2 bathrooms and 1 extra toilet.

    I Sweden we call it a toilet, and anything with a shower or bathtub a bathroom. Usually this is presented separately as the number of rooms are more important than the combined number of features. Sometimes a toilet may be called a guest toilet, for obvious purposes.

    In France, sometimes people additionally make a difference between "bath rooms" (salle de bain, with a bath) and "water rooms" (salle d'eau, with a shower). Both also having at least a wash basin, and sometimes a toilet seat in older houses, or small apartments.

    "Toilet" (or toilettes) being already an euphemism, I don't think we need yet another one...

  • Roobles (unregistered)
    Which of the following software products, services and/or technologies do you currently or plan to approve, specify, recommend, purchase or influence the purchase of?

    I think the 'Spyware/Malware' option is the politically correct manner of referring to the various operating systems offered by Microsoft.

  • JoLoCo (unregistered) in reply to Kermos
    Kermos:
    JoLoCo:
    I like how the apartment info shows "1 Bed" but "1.00 Bath" - can an apartment have a fractional bathroom?

    Actually, yes they can. You'll sometimes see adds for houses with 2.5 bathrooms, meaning that they have two full bathrooms (with bathtub / shower) and one with only a toilet & sink.

    Thank you all for your fascinating insights into this strange phenomenon. Of course, I'm not thinking in US English, where what you call the bathroom quite often contains a toilet, but in English English, where the bathroom contains a bath and the toilet contains a toilet.

    So, what you call 1.5 bathrooms, would actually be one bathroom and one toilet. If it doesn't have a bath in it, it's not a bathroom.

    It's really quite simple, see? Silly Americans!

  • JoLoCo (unregistered) in reply to Math Whiiiiiiz
    Math Whiiiiiiz:
    JoLoCo:
    I like how the apartment info shows "1 Bed" but "1.00 Bath" - can an apartment have a fractional bathroom?
    Real estate is frequently listed with "1 1/2 bath" and even "1 3/4 bath". The particulars escape me, but they are very important to a girlfriend, which you would know if you had ever had one.

    I've had yo' momma.

  • (cs) in reply to galgorah
    galgorah:
    definition from answers.com: A room in a residence that contains a toilet and wash basin but no bathing facilities, such as a bathtub or shower stall. A three-quarter bath contains a shower but no bathtub.
    Okay, my master bathroom has a tub, a separate shower, a toilet, and two sinks. The tub, toilet and first sink make it 1.00 bath, so with the extra shower and sink, this must be a 1.66 bath, eh?
  • (cs)

    The Dumb Test is dumb. Now I can see that it is even more dumb than I had suspected.

  • ytb (unregistered) in reply to author
    author:
    SCB:
    Random832:
    Coward:
    Where is the WTF with the Popular Science Magazine? The discounts are write if you take the result of: Floor("Annual Cover Price"*(100-Discount))

    Except both the "your price" and the cover price by use of the term "annual" are presented as being per year (meaning that with an annual cover price of 179.64 you would pay 538.92 for the three years - or with the 28/year you would be paying $84 for the three years, a much worse deal than three separate 12-month subscriptions for a total of $36)

    It doesn't say anything about "three years". Presumably you have a choice between 12 issues per year, 24 issues per year or 36 issues per year.

    That's how I interpreted it too. From what is shown of the advertising, there is no indication at all that the 36 issues will be spread out over 3 years. Receiving a new issue every 1.44 weeks seems a little odd though.

    maybe you are a company who likes to order 3 copies every month to spread around the organisation ? ... seems feasible to me ...

  • Josh (unregistered)

    Guys, the "36 issues" on the PopSci card means 12 issues per year for three years. I am a subscriber and see cards like that all the time. They usually do not have the "/yr" in the price column.

    Some of you are claiming that the card is not a WTF. Considering that it has caused half of TDWTF readers to misinterpret the offer as 36 issues in one year rather than three years, I would say it is, in fact, a WTF.

  • (cs) in reply to Josh
    Josh:
    Considering that it has caused half of TDWTF readers to misinterpret the offer as 36 issues in one year rather than three years, I would say it is, in fact, a WTF.

    Well, not as such. The card is a legitimate error'd, being a simple typo/logical error that ought to be easily understood for what it actually means. But not a WTF as such. The readers who interpreted it as 36 issues in one year are TRWTF.

  • Centricity (unregistered) in reply to Coward
    Coward:
    Depends how you define normal. In the case of MAC users you need to be more liberal with the usage of the word normal.
    Uhm.. :
    I think the Mac OS X printer error is normal. You have to read it like "This isn't possible on the client side".
    So using MAC is abnormal now? Did a better channel access negotiation scheme come out that I don't know about?
  • Anone (unregistered) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    Yes, it's called a half bathroom. Usually a toilet and sink but no tub or shower. My house is 1.5 bath.

    Having a toilet in the bathroom is TRWTF.

  • (cs) in reply to Anone
    Anone:
    Anon:
    Yes, it's called a half bathroom. Usually a toilet and sink but no tub or shower. My house is 1.5 bath.

    Having a toilet in the bathroom is TRWTF.

    Yes, because absolutely nobody in the universe has to use said toilet before they shower/bathe in the morning...

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