• Pax (unregistered) in reply to JohnLocke
    JohnLocke:
    Dennis:
    andrewbadera:
    blah blah hardworking underpaid employee blah blah blah idiot boss blah blah nepotism blah blah blah. seems like we've heard this one before.

    Possibly because it happens all the time.

    In a former life, I worked at a company where the boss's wife was (officially) a VP, and (in practice) a part-time A/P clerk. Her main duty was (apparently) sending female employees to the washroom in tears, which she did on average at least once a week. (Sorry about the sexist bent on that, but the whole time I was there she never managed to get a single male to cry).

    You won't see a man admitting he cried. I'm sure many of them silently cried in the washroom.

    Women go to the washroom, men go to the crapper.

  • Pax (unregistered) in reply to Flash
    Flash:
    WestFred:
    The first computer I worked on (Bendix G-15 in the 1960's) used U-Z as the additional six hexadecimal characters. The other computers I encountered all used octal until System/360 came out and used A-F. Using B-G is new to me.
    It seems there was much variety in the choice of additional digits. The Monrobot Mark XI (also from the early sixties) used these:

    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 S T U V W X

    If they'd just used the characters "0123456789:;<=>?", it would have made my hex conversion functions so much faster.

  • Matthew (unregistered) in reply to Joe
    Joe:
    My entire family has no clue what I do for a living. And my job's not even 100% technical. It has a business and management aspect to it. It's kinda sad when your parents raise you to go to college and get a good education. And when you do that and get a job, they have no clue how to gauge how successful you are skill-wise beyond your salary.

    When I got a job with the title "software designer", my grandmother initially assumed it meant designing knitwear.

  • (cs) in reply to Random832
    Random832:
    Another Kevin:
    Why 'B' through 'G'? Turns out that the letter position was obtained by throwing away the most significant bit of the hex digit. 10(10) == 1010(2), throw away the most significant bit and it's 10(2), so use the second letter of the alphabet, 'B'.

    "use the second letter" is a simplification - with bit masks, it would be 10 = 1010, throw away the fourth bit and you have 010, which you OR with 11000000 to get 11000010, 'B'.

    How is ORing any cheaper than ADDing 10111111 to get 'A'?

    Or than simply adding 10110111 to the original nibble value?

  • accolon (unregistered) in reply to Bowie

    My company got a new department a couple of months go, this department is publicly sponsored. They bought Dell Precision Workstations for their offices. Now their secretary is doing her work using MS Office 2003 on a Quad-Core Xeon machine with 4 GB of RAM, dual Nvidia Quadro cards and a 24" TFT screen.

    I've cried for hours.

  • (cs) in reply to accolon
    accolon:
    My company got a new department a couple of months go, this department is publicly sponsored. They bought Dell Precision Workstations for their offices. Now their secretary is doing her work using MS Office 2003 on a Quad-Core Xeon machine with 4 GB of RAM, dual Nvidia Quadro cards and a 24" TFT screen.

    I've cried for hours.

    Yes but have you seen the speed at which those machines can play Solitaire????

  • Jimmy Crack COrn (unregistered)

    Dont you just love nepotism! Nothing liike it is there.

    JT www.Ultimate-Anonymity.com

  • Won't tell (unregistered)

    I got my current job through light nepotism. The son of the cousin of my father is an uni computer science teacher who's friends with my current boss, so I was suggested for the post. I passed the interview and got the job.

    Now comes the fun part: I was supposed to learn J2EE and work on a huge project, which means awesome CV for me. Instead some big fish decided to introduce J/XFS and the only way to make scanners work from java without launching execs is to use Twain with a JNI layer (they won't buy libraries like jtwain), and J/XFS sucks for scanners, can't even specify dpis (had to use directIO() all over the place).

    Add to that that they don't want to introduce parameters to specify the type of document to be scanned (clerks are lazy) so my library is supposed to automatically detect rotation for ID cards and some other bs I've managed to fix. Now I'm working on integrating the OCR engine which works as an ActiveX singleton. Through JNI. They're already complaining that it's "slow". No sh!t.

    That's for the first 7 months of my first real job. And I've got two new scanner models to develop for later, which will require changes (since each company implements the Twain "standard" as they see fit).

    /bitter rant

  • (cs) in reply to accolon
    accolon:
    My company got a new department a couple of months go, this department is publicly sponsored. They bought Dell Precision Workstations for their offices. Now their secretary is doing her work using MS Office 2003 on a Quad-Core Xeon machine with 4 GB of RAM, dual Nvidia Quadro cards and a 24" TFT screen.

    I've cried for hours.

    At least it can run Vista reasonably. ;-)

  • TInkerghost (unregistered) in reply to Pat
    Pat:
    And then the company was sold and management had to do an emergency reevaluation of her son's job so that they could justify keeping him around? And then they rehired one of the women who quit for more than she was making under the old bosses?

    I'm curious how the Simon's boss justified hiring someone new instead of making an offer when Simon gave his notice. It was obvious that he was indispenible and there was money in the budget. Isn't someone checking the department budget submissions?

    I've been here before. Found out that the guy I was training was making about 80% more than I was. When I talked to the manager about a raise to be more equitable, I was told there was no money. I found out that the guy they hired to replace me was making more than my trainee.

    There is this philosophy in management that if you're there you're not worth any more than they are paying you already. They would prefer to pay $20-30K on training & double the salary for someone new rather than just give out a lesser raise to an existing employee.

    If you can find the logic or business sense in there - more power to you, because I've seen it in about 6 companies & never understood it.

  • Zlochko (unregistered)

    What happened to the boss ?

  • Chris H (unregistered)

    I was a web designer/programmer for a medium-size publishing company. I was responsible for server maintenance, backups, customer support, IT support for coworkers, developing web applications and designing the companies ads and marketing programs. For months I had proved I was underpaid and was severely entitled to a hefty raise.

    I put my two weeks notice in shortly after discovering that the guy who ran design proofs off of a color copying machine was making 10K more a year than me.

  • (cs) in reply to Andy Goth

    TRWTF is that this idiot bothered to try and train the kid. I mean, it sounds like he almost had a chalkboard in there trying to be a professor.

    Personally, I would never have bothered to try to teach somebody programming that didn't understand basic math. At least not unless my job WAS professor.

  • Anonymous (unregistered)

    The whole thing with salary amounts is really messed up at a lot of companies. I've seen this happen at a company I worked for as well. For some reason, the sales people were getting $50k a year regardless of any sales they made, while the programmers were getting $25-30k a year. The justification? The sales people had more experience (5-10 years), while the programmers were mostly still in college (although one of the guys had a degree in Computer Science). Never mind the fact that the sales people never really produced (if I made $50k a year to just show up at my desk on time and not really do anything, I don't think I'd have much motivation either) and the programmers all produced a lot and worked a ton of overtime.

    A couple of the guys asked for raises multiple times, but were told each time that they only qualified for a very small raise (or that "you got just a $1 raise!).

    When it was found out that they were paying the secretary substantially more than the programmers, a mass exodus was initiated. The company then attempted to start making offers to pay my coworkers nearly double what they had been making before, but they all left anyway due to what they perceived to be real injustice. I got a pretty decent raise out of it at least.

    I still do contract work for this company (at a substantially higher rate) but I don't trust them.

  • (cs)

    The real WTF is that it totally didn't happen that way.

    Instead, following Simon's outburst, he was thrown out of the conference room and given a scathing reference, while Ryan's starting salary was doubled.

    That was just too good to be true. How gullible do you think we are?

  • TheBareney (unregistered)

    1 - When negotiating salary (you did do that, didn't you? Let me guess: er, no), you also negotiate any raises, etc. based upon certs AND GET AN EXACT DOLLAR AMOUNT

    No: "Will I get a raise if I get this cert?" "Sure."

    Yes: "When I get this cert I'll increase my value to the company by $[some dollar amount] because [reasons]. Can we talk about my getting a salary adjustment after that?" "Sure." "Based upon my figures, it seems that $[increase] is fair." (negotiation continues and ends with a signed document).

    2 - "Once Simon made his intentions to leave clear ...." "He finished preparing the test the same day he gave his two weeks notice...." WRONG. The only indication your company gets that you are leaving is a signed resignation letter that states the date (BUT NO REASONS WHY) you are leaving. If anyone asks, the answer is, "Nothing personal, it is just time for me to move on."

    3 - "I'd like to see his test if you don't mind." WTF do you care? You're leaving, so if they hire some idiot it is their fault.

    4 - "After a brief flash of embarrassment that he'd gotten so worked up about it..." That's your conscience telling you that you're an ID:10t -- what do you care what they think? THEY'RE the idiots for using a departing employee to train a new employee -- nothing like having the newb's first few weeks to be exposed to someone who may not like the company.

  • Your Name (unregistered) in reply to Another Kevin
    Another Kevin:
    Believe it or not, in the bad old days when dinosaurs walked the earth, Honeywell computers (notably the 801) used a hexadecimal notation that omitted 'A'. The digits for 10 through 15 were 'B' through 'G' - and were represented by script characters that were not used for the ordinary alphabet.

    Why 'B' through 'G'? Turns out that the letter position was obtained by throwing away the most significant bit of the hex digit. 10(10) == 1010(2), throw away the most significant bit and it's 10(2), so use the second letter of the alphabet, 'B'. And so on up to 15(10) = 1111(2), throw away the most significant bit and it's 111(2), or 7(10), so use the seventh letter of the alphabet, 'G'.

    It was incredibly annoying.

    But, if it was represented by unique character patterns not from the ordinary alphabet, why couldn't they just have made the B an A?

  • hexter jones (unregistered) in reply to Your Name
    Your Name:
    Another Kevin:
    Believe it or not, in the bad old days when dinosaurs walked the earth, Honeywell computers (notably the 801) used a hexadecimal notation that omitted 'A'. The digits for 10 through 15 were 'B' through 'G' - and were represented by script characters that were not used for the ordinary alphabet.

    Why 'B' through 'G'? Turns out that the letter position was obtained by throwing away the most significant bit of the hex digit. 10(10) == 1010(2), throw away the most significant bit and it's 10(2), so use the second letter of the alphabet, 'B'. And so on up to 15(10) = 1111(2), throw away the most significant bit and it's 111(2), or 7(10), so use the seventh letter of the alphabet, 'G'.

    It was incredibly annoying.

    But, if it was represented by unique character patterns not from the ordinary alphabet, why couldn't they just have made the B an A?

    Holy crap - can you imagine how confusing that would be?

  • (cs) in reply to Matthew
    Matthew:
    Joe:
    My entire family has no clue what I do for a living. And my job's not even 100% technical. It has a business and management aspect to it. It's kinda sad when your parents raise you to go to college and get a good education. And when you do that and get a job, they have no clue how to gauge how successful you are skill-wise beyond your salary.

    When I got a job with the title "software designer", my grandmother initially assumed it meant designing knitwear.

    I once knew a girl who had worked as a "software designer," and her job literally did involve designing knitwear.

    In COBOL.

    I wish I were making this up.

  • (cs) in reply to Won't tell
    Won't tell:
    I got my current job through light nepotism. The son of the cousin of my father is an uni computer science teacher who's friends with my current boss, so I was suggested for the post. I passed the interview and got the job.

    Now comes the fun part: I was supposed to learn J2EE and work on a huge project, which means awesome CV for me. Instead some big fish decided to introduce J/XFS and the only way to make scanners work from java without launching execs is to use Twain with a JNI layer (they won't buy libraries like jtwain), and J/XFS sucks for scanners, can't even specify dpis (had to use directIO() all over the place).

    Add to that that they don't want to introduce parameters to specify the type of document to be scanned (clerks are lazy) so my library is supposed to automatically detect rotation for ID cards and some other bs I've managed to fix. Now I'm working on integrating the OCR engine which works as an ActiveX singleton. Through JNI. They're already complaining that it's "slow". No sh!t.

    That's for the first 7 months of my first real job. And I've got two new scanner models to develop for later, which will require changes (since each company implements the Twain "standard" as they see fit).

    /bitter rant

    Object orientation, that's the ticket. You can't have too much object orientation; particularly in Java. With JNI you can even interface to other peoples' object orientation. Your boss should have explained this to you.

    In fact, I'm going to orientate myself towards an object right now. Mmmmm ... a beer object. Malty!

    Patterns are also good. Particularly knitting patterns. I recommend COBOL.

  • Nobody (unregistered)

    More WTFs in this one than just Nepotism...

    1. Certification in "C"? Seriously, does Simon have a degree or is he an ITT cert. kiddie complaining about pay?

    2. "Simon included some actual production code from one such system." Fire-able and almost sue-able offense in most companies for divulging proprietary stuff.

    3. Test questions: the crutch of those who don't know how to hire.

  • Pfhreak (unregistered) in reply to Flash
    Flash:
    WestFred:
    The first computer I worked on (Bendix G-15 in the 1960's) used U-Z as the additional six hexadecimal characters. The other computers I encountered all used octal until System/360 came out and used A-F. Using B-G is new to me.
    It seems there was much variety in the choice of additional digits. The Monrobot Mark XI (also from the early sixties) used these:

    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 S T U V W X

    S T U V W X are likely holdovers from the electric power industry. I deal with those 'numerals' every day. :D

  • (cs) in reply to accolon
    accolon:
    My company got a new department a couple of months go, this department is publicly sponsored. They bought Dell Precision Workstations for their offices. Now their secretary is doing her work using MS Office 2003 on a Quad-Core Xeon machine with 4 GB of RAM, dual Nvidia Quadro cards and a 24" TFT screen.

    I've cried for hours.

    In the washroom?

  • Mister Bee (unregistered) in reply to Nobody
    Nobody:
    More WTFs in this one than just Nepotism...

    1. Certification in "C"? Seriously, does Simon have a degree or is he an ITT cert. kiddie complaining about pay?

    2. "Simon included some actual production code from one such system." Fire-able and almost sue-able offense in most companies for divulging proprietary stuff.

    3. Test questions: the crutch of those who don't know how to hire.

    • Fair point

    • Maybe true in the US where people often sue pigeons for taking a crap on their head, but not elsewhere, and certainly not for an incomplete code snippet from a proprietary system that the interviewer could have no possible use for. There's easier ways to enact corporate espionage than going to an interview and hoping you get shown production code.

    • Test questions are the crutch of people whose time is valuable and don't want to waste it talking to people who have clearly no clue and/or have lied on their CV. Once you've cleared that an "expert c# developer" knows about OO concepts you can then actually meet them.

    populus - what a cool game that was!

  • Mister Bee (unregistered) in reply to Mister Bee

    *interviewee

    It's been a long day already.

    :(

  • (cs) in reply to shadowman
    shadowman:
    Seriously, though, what? Are you supposed to stare at the interviewer the whole time you're thinking about the question she asked you? Or were you pretty much staring at the ceiling for uncomfortably long periods of time?

    Look at her blouse. Eventually, the buttons will come off and give you great hindsight (if she's below 40).

  • (cs) in reply to accolon
    accolon:
    My company got a new department a couple of months go, this department is publicly sponsored. They bought Dell Precision Workstations for their offices. Now their secretary is doing her work using MS Office 2003 on a Quad-Core Xeon machine with 4 GB of RAM, dual Nvidia Quadro cards and a 24" TFT screen.

    I've cried for hours.

    Not to forget 7.1 surround, internal WiFi-card, webcam, 1 TB of storage, UPS (just in case), double-sided DVD burner...

  • (cs) in reply to fruey
    fruey:
    accolon:
    My company got a new department a couple of months go, this department is publicly sponsored. They bought Dell Precision Workstations for their offices. Now their secretary is doing her work using MS Office 2003 on a Quad-Core Xeon machine with 4 GB of RAM, dual Nvidia Quadro cards and a 24" TFT screen.

    I've cried for hours.

    At least it can run Vista reasonably. ;-)

    Does Office 2003 run on VISTA??? Butt far butt I remember it happily waves Goodbye butt soon butt you try to launch it.

  • (cs) in reply to TInkerghost
    TInkerghost:
    Pat:
    And then the company was sold and management had to do an emergency reevaluation of her son's job so that they could justify keeping him around? And then they rehired one of the women who quit for more than she was making under the old bosses?

    I'm curious how the Simon's boss justified hiring someone new instead of making an offer when Simon gave his notice. It was obvious that he was indispenible and there was money in the budget. Isn't someone checking the department budget submissions?

    I've been here before. Found out that the guy I was training was making about 80% more than I was. When I talked to the manager about a raise to be more equitable, I was told there was no money. I found out that the guy they hired to replace me was making more than my trainee.

    There is this philosophy in management that if you're there you're not worth any more than they are paying you already. They would prefer to pay $20-30K on training & double the salary for someone new rather than just give out a lesser raise to an existing employee.

    If you can find the logic or business sense in there - more power to you, because I've seen it in about 6 companies & never understood it.

    I share your opinion and experience. Though, in my case the difference was just some 30% I never got a raise above 8%. Maybe it's because the grass is always greener in the neighbour's garden. And then, you have been working for that salary for usually quite a while (and were happy with it???), so obviously (well, for management) giving you more would be like throwing perls to the pigs or let me say: it would be like repairing an old toy for the same price you can have a brand new toy for. Never forget that people in upper management are like little children who go "Whoaaaaa" for every new thing they receive and "Boooooh" for making up and having to keep the "old stuff".

  • Nobody (unregistered) in reply to Mister Bee
    1. Fair point but:

    a) How would the hack resume get "considered" in the first place? Expert C# Developer without a degree? Without a produced product showing results?

    b) If you send them the test before you meet them, how do you know they answered the questions themselves or "googled" the answer?

    c) Name another job that has laundry-list requirements; missing one of which automatically gets you off the interviewee pile. Name another job where a test is used to further screen out applicants in lieu of actually finding out what the results of someone's work was.

    I've heard stories from ER nurses going through less during interviews.

    It all comes down to laziness, not time. Don't meet the list, don't pass the test, bye bye. "Cause we really don't know what you do or how to hire you (what makes you qualified)."

  • PanteroBlanco (unregistered) in reply to Jay
    Jay:
    The company my father worked for had a deliberate policy of hiring children of employees for summer jobs. They even had a special application form for such people. I worked their two summers when I was in college. If you can't fight nepotism, institutionalize it.

    Summer jobs are a completely different ball game; I don't know if you can really call that "nepotism". The Summer kids (hopefully) aren't being put in positions where they can do real damage.

  • Simon (unregistered) in reply to Dave
    Dave:
    He's not an artard he just know gexahecimal. He's years ahead of his time I tell you.

    ROFLMAO.

    To answer peoples questions. It was a family run business. All the managers were related (brothers/sisters) and continually tried to get one up on each other. I am pretty sure if they weren't related they wouldn't of been in the same company together. It wasn't uncommon for them to throw cups of coffee at each other.

    Ryan was put on working on loading/unloading and general box packing. He did not get a pay cut.

    The friend got hired on less then me. His salary did go up (much faster then mine) but stayed for a long time.

    I was a serious nooble back then still thrilled that someone was paying me to actually do stuff I liked doing (least for the first 2 years). Working on some really nice ancient tech and getting hooked up to recent tech was good fun, or writing WYSIWYG UI designers for hardware from the 1970's that would normally just take binary records from magnetic tape machines.

    The hex thing was just one WTF. Trying to teach him binary was fun as well.

  • Simon (unregistered) in reply to GP
    GP:
    You are godly. Most people would've kept it silent and left - You actually prevented the company much trouble.

    I don't think I am that evil. :) I just had enough of being blamed for not doing my job.

    Berger:
    had never heard of resolution, dpi, output size, etc. I totally understand this dude's frustration (especially since I'm the one in-charge training the newbie!)

    I also had to teach them what X/Y co-ordinates were (for laying out items on a page) and what an origin was. Like the hex they asked me was it possible for the X and Y to swap position.

  • Simon (unregistered) in reply to TheBareney
    TheBareney:
    No: "Will I get a raise if I get this cert?" "Sure."

    I was close to minimum wage. The pay increase I asked for was still a joke (as I had no clue back then). I was told that no pay rise would happen as I was not qualified, despite I was more then capable of doing the job. The cert had no impact on my work, it was still the same.

    WRONG. The only indication your company gets that you are leaving is a signed resignation letter

    You are correct. Again I was a complete noob, and had signed a contract to give a fixed period of notice.

    WTF do you care? You're leaving, so if they hire some idiot it is their fault.

    It was more personal pain thing. I'd seen the answers, but couldn't say I had and I wanted to know why they would mark some of the questions "BS". Although I sometimes wonder if one of the managers had done it intentionally.

    That's your conscience telling you that you're an ID:10t

    Yes, I was an idiot back then. :) I hope similar idiots can learn from this story. ;)

  • Simon (unregistered) in reply to Nobody
    Nobody:
    1. Certification in "C"? Seriously, does Simon have a degree or is he an ITT cert. kiddie complaining about pay?

    Yep. It was a kiddie complaining about pay. :)

    Fire-able and almost sue-able offense in most companies for divulging proprietary stuff.

    It wasn't code samples in what you mean. I can't recall correctly the question but it would of been something like this.

    0;A;0001100 0;B;1111111 0;C;1111100 0;D;1101010 1;E;B;C;D 2;10;10;E;0; 2;0;0;A;0;

    I am not joking when I say that some of the hardware had no manuals at all and you had to determine how the system worked from strings of numbers like that. So the objective was to see if they could use lateral thinking. (and remember these questions were written by a kid. ;)

    the crutch of those who don't know how to hire.

    It wasn't a computer orientated company. But I would say that questions do weed out those who have no clue faster. Assuming they actually answer the questions.

  • Montoya (unregistered)

    The family member thing happens way too often... one time, a very bad former boss at a game company insisted on having his 9 yr old son sit on a planning meeting so that he could share his ideas for a game that was in development, and even said that he wanted all the PROFESSIONALS in the room to listen to and implement his ideas. One of my coworkers was very quick to adjourn that meeting.

  • yo (unregistered)

    I love this story. As for the hex, I would have told the newphew that he can use any 16 symbols he wants.

  • (cs) in reply to TInkerghost
    TInkerghost:
    There is this philosophy in management that if you're there you're not worth any more than they are paying you already. They would prefer to pay $20-30K on training & double the salary for someone new rather than just give out a lesser raise to an existing employee.

    If you can find the logic or business sense in there - more power to you, because I've seen it in about 6 companies & never understood it.

    I'll give it a go. You're thinking from your own pespective as an individual. Your notional manager is thinking from his/her own perspective: he/she has to report upwards, and upward reports tend to be budgetary.

    Let's assume, to fit your example, that there are twenty programmers (it doesn't matter what level, or indeed what spread of levels) working for PHB. All of them will bitch that their work deserves a doubling of salary. That's what we do.

    Let's further assume that all twenty are, statistically speaking, spineless introverts who can talk the talk, commercially speaking, but can't walk the walk. I'd guess this is a fair assumption. We don't do "commercial."

    Your PHB now has the option of reporting to his/her manager that "Ooh, they're all complaining that they're underpaid. I can't afford to lose an entire department of twenty people! Let's give them half of what they want. 50% should keep them all happy."

    Or:

    "Fuck these people; they have no spine. 95% of them will struggle on no matter what. We'll let the other one go and bring somebody in at twice the pay, with up-to-date training. It's cheaper, it's more efficient, and we get a new wizard Ruby on Rails mentor for the rest of the little creeps!"

    If you were a PHB, reporting upwards to the Great Accounting Cloud In The Sky, which one would you pick?

    And, no, it makes no technical sense whatsoever. Almost any company with more than ten employees has long ago left the world where technical sense equates to more than diddly-squat.

  • jmo21 (unregistered) in reply to Pfhreak

    yep, had a similar conversation with a friend myself - they guy dropped out of university courses twice and college course's a couple of times too (a variety of different subjects/vocations) and is still working in a call centre

    over here in the UK there are loads of TV and newspaper ad's advertising "IT" courses, where u can end of earning 30K (gbp) a year etc

    does my head in!

    Pfhreak:
    One of the problems here is that people generally undervalue programmers. They think that it is something that you can pick up in a few days/weeks, and be a pro. (This idea isn't helped by the TEACH YOURSELF ... IN 24 HOURS! series, either.)

    I have a friend who asked me yesterday, "If I took some classes at a community college, how long would it be before I could have a programming job?" This person has no prior programming experience. I had to be the hard one to tell him that, if he worked real hard, and did some impressive side projects, maybe 4 years or so.

    I don't think he believed me.

  • neko (unregistered) in reply to D0R
    D0R:
    "I have a (family member) that's good in computers" translates as "I have a (family member) that spends a lot of time playing videogames".
    Actually, it translates to "I have a (family member) who can burn CDs and retrieve items from the recycling bin, therefore he is on par with you, experience programmer with a degree in Computer Science"...

    I try to avoid such discussions with extended family members, they tend to believe anybody who can use MS Office without a manual is of the same breed and would obviously get along together and 'speak the same language'.

  • Bill (unregistered)

    Uh, those were the dumbest interview questions I've ever seen. Hopefully the guy who wrote them had other skills.

  • ZenMaster (unregistered) in reply to ASM826
    ASM826:
    So, in 2008, we have P4 processors with 2 GB of RAM, sound cards, gigabit LAN cards, and 19" flatscreen monitors to serve as glowing 500-watt typewriters.

    What? No graphics card??? I need my Pac-Man rendered in High-Def! Its as close as one gets to havin a zen-like experience at work...

    Captcha - quibus...the queer cousin of succubus and incubus

  • uh oh (unregistered) in reply to emp

    I think your cousin just got hired at my company. I'm actually getting less work done because he wastes my time bragging about how many case fans he has.

  • Cbuttius (unregistered) in reply to uh oh

    Obviously G is the hexadecimal symbol for file-not-found or the hex equivalent.

    Useful to represent NaNs.

  • Rowan (unregistered) in reply to Bowie

    At my work (retail) they're using 2.8Ghz Core2Duo systems with 1TB HD and 4GB ram each as cash registers...

    Admittedly that's inexpensive now, but still.

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