• Synonymous Awkward (unregistered) in reply to masklinn
    masklinn:
    Haskell.

    Idiots will melt their brains before they manage to output a hello world, and that's before they reach monads.

    I notice a pattern here whereby the two languages presented as actually "idiot-proof" both achieve this end by being utterly incomprehensible to lesser mortals. The clear lesson here is that we should investigate the use of Malbolge-like languages for everyday development. ;o)

  • jahwah (unregistered) in reply to Synonymous Awkward

    If I've learned only one sure thing from a career in CS, it's this: when insecure windbags like Russ are the most visible champions of a language, shotgunning loads of replies into threads that aren't even really about said language, going on about how it will "never die", how those who scoffs at it are clueless and fail to understand, etc, etc, ad nauseam - you can rest assured that the language is indeed at death's door.

    Learn some new skills, Russ. Yours is the most classic error in this field - that of latching onto the One True Language, and riding it all the way down to the bitter end. You're emboldened by the good pay as the skill becomes more rare, the platform more obscure -- but eventually everything you do maint on gets the Big Rewrite, and before you know it you're in a ever-shrinking arena with a few handfuls of remaining contractors, all of whom you know by name, ruthlessly underbidding and undermining each other for table scraps. That is the fate of every programmer who stubbornly draws a line in the sand and works in the domain of a single language / platform / framework until it is too late to learn new tricks.

    Some of the greatest minds of my generation, destroyed by CF / Progress 4GL / etc.

  • Some Guy (unregistered) in reply to masklinn
    masklinn:
    Haskell.

    Idiots will melt their brains before they manage to output a hello world, and that's before they reach monads.

    I don't think: putStrLn "Hello, World!" is going to be so terribly hard for them to grasp. Haskell is not hard, and it doesn't require above average intelligence to use. Its just different, so you can't write non-trivial apps the same way you would in procedural languages like C++ or java.

  • Peter (unregistered) in reply to jahwah
    jahwah:
    If I've learned only one sure thing from a career in CS, it's this: when insecure windbags like Russ are the most visible champions of a language, shotgunning loads of replies into threads that aren't even really *about* said language, going on about how it will "never die", how those who scoffs at it are clueless and fail to understand, etc, etc, ad nauseam - you can rest assured that the language is indeed at death's door.

    One hyperactive newbie does not mean the death of a language.

    Anyone willing to examine the evidence will see that ColdFusion is not dying.

  • bull (unregistered)

    Oh SwordFish, I like that movie. A "human 512-bit-encryption brute-forcer" finally exists in this world!!

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