• Kiss me, I'm Polish (unregistered) in reply to rogue star

    Looks like my screenshot didn't make it. However, since I'm the ultimate troll, it's funny that nobody blocked my email yet. Oh wait.
    Recipient says I HATE YOU.
    Makes me nervous.

    And I hate the captcha shit. It doesn't work properly. Get rid of it (please).

  • (cs) in reply to Kiss me, I'm Polish
    And I hate the captcha shit. It doesn't work properly. Get rid of it (please).


    You can take steps to get rid of it, so why don't you?  Just register and you won't have to deal with the captcha.
  • (cs) in reply to adajos

    Yowza. At $230 or $400 an hour, I'd expect there wouldn't be any errors to begin with.

  • (cs) in reply to d4ddyo

    Dang. Meant to quote:

    adajos:

    I know, that was my impression at first too.  Then I got to thinking that if I had gotten my company to pay a consulting firm half a million or more dollars to deliver a system and got the impression that they weren't taking it seriously I might be irritated too.  At the time I was billing out at $230/hour and the PM and BA were closer to $400/hr.

    Still though, sometimes you just have to laugh.



    Ah, well, I'm not getting $230 or $400/hr....
  • (cs) in reply to Satanicpuppy
    Satanicpuppy:

    Yea, I had someone send me a screenshot of an error pop-up from a program I'd written. They wanted to know why this error code was, "This will never happen". You'd think I'd have known better. =P


    Naming it this way might be the only way to ensure that the error will occur at some point. Murphy strikes again.
  • Zygo Blaxell (unregistered) in reply to Paul Rene
    Anonymous:
    The "I HATE YOU" message is actually part of the pserver CVS protocol. The CVS server sends the string "I HATE YOU" whenever you try to login with wrong username/password. If you supply a correct username/password the server sends "I LOVE YOU" ;-) Who says protocol writers can't be allowed some fun?


    This is why I don't let my computer use CVS on strange machines over the network any more.
  • Zygo Blaxell (unregistered) in reply to Maurits
    Maurits:
    It's been said before, but I'll say it again...

    The "Press F1 to continue" includes an implicit PLUG IN THE KEYBOARD FIRST, THEN


    Except the PS/2 keyboard spec doesn't allow for this (and in some cases will release smoke unless you're really careful about which way up the connector is when it enters the socket).

    Nowadays of course you could plug in a USB keyboard...but the BIOS message is decades older than such innovations.
  • torajirou (unregistered) in reply to Big J
    Anonymous:
    1st!


    well... you sure did catch that one !

    oh no wait... you didn't !

    oh no wait, you were a troll !

    oh... whatever...
  • Zygo Blaxell (unregistered) in reply to Arancaytar
    Arancaytar:
    Satanicpuppy:

    Yea, I had someone send me a screenshot of an error pop-up from a program I'd written. They wanted to know why this error code was, "This will never happen". You'd think I'd have known better. =P


    Naming it this way might be the only way to ensure that the error will occur at some point. Murphy strikes again.


    Nah, if that actually worked I'd use it all the time.  Just think, I could write "This will never happen" and all those irreproducible problems that I have to spend weeks fixing would just go away!  ;-)
  • (cs) in reply to Otac0n

    Otac0n:
    Satanicpuppy:

    Yea, I had someone send me a screenshot of an error pop-up from a program I'd written. They wanted to know why this error code was, "This will never happen". You'd think I'd have known better. =P


    Raise your hand if you have ever made an eror message like this.

    (raises hand) Although when I do it I have it say "Assertion failed ..." [;)]

  • gh4acws (unregistered) in reply to d

    I have seen this happen - plugging in a ps2 keyboard into a week old new computer fried the keyboard.( at least it did on a Gateway PC back in '95. )
    In theory it should only fry part of the IO controler and the rest of the maimboard might still be OK but I would not bet on it.

  • (cs) in reply to Juha Nieminen

    How were you copying over 4GB on Win98? I upgraded to 2K purely because I needed more than 4GB files (FAT32 doesn't allow them)

  • (cs) in reply to Malenfant

    Gah! That was supposed to be a reply to someone loads earlier

  • (cs) in reply to rogue star

    @rogue star:

    Yep, legit is short for legitimate.  I used the slang version in a hope that it might prompt some action.  Has anyone sent a product out as the codename because the marketing department refused to decide on a proper name for it until it was too late to change it?

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  • (cs) in reply to Otac0n
    Otac0n:
    Satanicpuppy:

    Yea, I had someone send me a screenshot of an error pop-up from a program I'd written. They wanted to know why this error code was, "This will never happen". You'd think I'd have known better. =P


    Raise your hand if you have ever made an eror message like this.

    *raiss hand*


    *raise* 
    In university, one of my Java projects hat a class CantHappenError.

    Now, after years of software development in various projects have made me wise and experienced, I don't do that anymore. Now I write "This should never happen".

  • (cs) in reply to Juha Nieminen
    Anonymous:
    I submitted the copying dialog snapshot. It happened to me in Win98 when I copied over 4GB of files from one directory to another, and it showed the wacky time all the way through (the actualy copying just took a few minutes). I swear the snapshot is original and unedited. And no, it was not porn.

    I'm pretty sure this bug still exists in W2K, which is one of the reasons why i switched to SuperCopier quite a long time ago.

  • The doc (unregistered) in reply to Randolpho

     Maurits wrote:
    It's been said before, but I'll say it again...

    The "Press F1 to continue" includes an implicit PLUG IN THE KEYBOARD FIRST, THEN

    > Unless it's a PS/2 Keyboard. Then there's the whole "fry-the-motherboard" thing....

    What have you been smoking?

  • Kiss me, I'm Polish (unregistered) in reply to Ytram
    Ytram:
    And I hate the captcha shit. It doesn't work properly. Get rid of it (please).


    You can take steps to get rid of it, so why don't you?  Just register and you won't have to deal with the captcha.

    Nice try. You want me to register so you can send me more "enlarge your penis" emails. Gotcha. Nah. Captcha.
    But less seriously, I've expected this kind of an answer. It's not what I want. This is like when I ask about a feature in Firefox and people tell me to switch to Opera. Go to hell, I don't want Opera. I want Firefox to do my favourite thing, whatever it is (you can replace Firefox and Opera by your favourite browsers, vcrs, hammers or even cars).
    This is the same - you expect me to workaround a bug by registering, so I would quit complaining about it. I don't want to workaround it. I want it get fixed. Please.
  • black_rock (unregistered) in reply to brazzy
    brazzy:
    Otac0n:
    Satanicpuppy:

    Yea, I had someone send me a screenshot of an error pop-up from a program I'd written. They wanted to know why this error code was, "This will never happen". You'd think I'd have known better. =P


    Raise your hand if you have ever made an eror message like this.

    *raiss hand*


    *raise* 
    In university, one of my Java projects hat a class CantHappenError.

    Now, after years of software development in various projects have made me wise and experienced, I don't do that anymore. Now I write "This should never happen".

    And thus did he reinvent the wheel. As I recall Java already has AssertionError for that purpose. Btw which is easier to understand/write/whatever: assert(var); (C) or if (!(var)) throw new AssertionError(var); (Java)
  • (cs) in reply to Kiss me, I'm Polish
    Anonymous:
    Ytram:
    And I hate the captcha shit. It doesn't work properly. Get rid of it (please).


    You can take steps to get rid of it, so why don't you?  Just register and you won't have to deal with the captcha.

    Nice try. You want me to register so you can send me more "enlarge your penis" emails. Gotcha. Nah. Captcha.
    But less seriously, I've expected this kind of an answer. It's not what I want. This is like when I ask about a feature in Firefox and people tell me to switch to Opera. Go to hell, I don't want Opera. I want Firefox to do my favourite thing, whatever it is (you can replace Firefox and Opera by your favourite browsers, vcrs, hammers or even cars).
    This is the same - you expect me to workaround a bug by registering, so I would quit complaining about it. I don't want to workaround it. I want it get fixed. Please.


    Yes, some user on this forum having no part in its administration wants you to register so that he can send you spam.  Shortly after you register, he'll use his super leet hacking skills to steal your e-mail address from this site's datsbase.  Man, we can't put anything over on you, can we?

    Sure sure, this site's gots problems, no doubt.  You can either put up with the captcha problem, or you can take 1 goddamn minute of your time and never have to worry about this particular problem again.  Even though you shouldn't have to workaround such a silly problem, I bet the time you waste futzing around with it is greater than the time it would take to workaround it.  The correct choice seems obvious to me.
  • (cs) in reply to Kiss me, I'm Polish

    Anonymous:
    [
    Go to hell, I don't want Opera. I want Firefox to do my favourite thing, whatever it is (you can replace Firefox and Opera by your favourite browsers, vcrs, hammers or even cars).
    This is the same - you expect me to workaround a bug by registering, so I would quit complaining about it. I don't want to workaround it. I want it get fixed. Please.

    They aren't even remotely the same.  Opera and Firefox (or car A and car B) are different things with similar functionality.  If you use Opera, you lose out on some Firefox things.  If you use Firefox, you lose out on some Opera things.

    Now take your captcha problem.  Your choices are register or not_register.  However, one of them provides all the functionality of the other, AND fixes the bug you are complaining about.  Your statement "I dont want to workaround it, I want to get it fixed" is closer (since we're playing the analogy game) to a circumstance where Firefox 1.5 required you to register via an email to make it work, but it does fix the bugs in Firefox 1.4 you hate.  However you claim that registering to download a fix is a "workaround" and you want a patch for Firefox 1.4 that fixes those bugs.

    Simply put, the problem is solved for all but the most obstinate users.  Some people use the crappy version and live with the bugs.  Some people upgrade to the registration-required version and deal with fewer bugs.  Alex has no incentive to fix the bug, since anyone who is seriously bother by it can fix it for themselves quite easily.

     

  • teedyay (unregistered) in reply to Otac0n
    Otac0n:
    Satanicpuppy:

    Yea, I had someone send me a screenshot of an error pop-up from a program I'd written. They wanted to know why this error code was, "This will never happen". You'd think I'd have known better. =P


    Raise your hand if you have ever made an eror message like this.


    *raiss hand*


    *raises hand*

    Mine (fortunately in an internal app) said, "either the fundamental nature of arithmetic has changed, or the programmer's incompetent (I suspect the latter)". It was my boss's boss who changed the app and triggered the message.
  • Stan (unregistered) in reply to teedyay

    I made a "This isn't happening" message that eventually popped up of course. Anybody remember the X-Files episode where the Air Force guy says this over and over?

    A friend made a prototype with only one data validation error message: "Try again, human."  It made it to production in one or two spots.

  • (cs) in reply to Satanicpuppy
    Satanicpuppy:

    Yea, if you hold down a key while it's booting up, it'll swamp the keyboard buffer, and the BIOS will read that (correctly) as a keyboard error...Maybe you've got a stuck key, or maybe you spilled coke on it and ALL the keys are freaking out, so it stops execution, and tells you to add a keyboard.


    When in doubt, add more keyboards.
  • Kiss me, I'm Polish (unregistered) in reply to UncleMidriff

    Yes, some user on this forum having no part in its administration wants you to register so that he can send you spam.  Shortly after you register, he'll use his super leet hacking skills to steal your e-mail address from this site's datsbase.  Man, we can't put anything over on you, can we?

    Are you trying to explain to me what was funny in my own joke? Geez, I promise I'll make them more obvious.

    Sure sure, this site's gots problems, no doubt.  You can either put up with the captcha problem, or you can take 1 goddamn minute of your time and never have to worry about this particular problem again.  Even though you shouldn't have to workaround such a silly problem, I bet the time you waste futzing around with it is greater than the time it would take to workaround it.  The correct choice seems obvious to me.

    That's what they said when I started using the Seti@Home processor muncher software. Result? I woke up one morning in southern Alabama with an anal probe stuck up my buttocks. Oh, the shame. I never went back to Uhmirca again.
    The problem is not in whether I should register (and get the yellow snowballs under my nick) or not (and remain the wild turkey). Nuh-uh. I know that only the anonymous have to put up with the captcha. The problem is that there's 3 guys here suggesting me to register in order to shut my mouth about the captcha issue, not seeing anything wrong with the buggyware.
    It's like - let's pretend we write some software. It's a book reader. For the purpose of this demonstration let's call our company Initech (to make this post more funny, I think I should use more funny words, like isTrue or Brillant, that would make me a friendly person). Some customer tells us - hey, you guys put white letters on white background, we can't read it you dumb sons of unknown fathers having encounters with stray dogs (I'll spare you the rest of the monologue). What do we tell him?
    Response 1.
    - Dear Sir. We apologize. We've already killed the programmer responsible for that issue. Here's the patch. You want white text on yellow background or green on red? There's more to come when we finally get rid of our black and white monitors.
    Response 2.
    - Dear Sir. You stink. If you had been the person you want us to think you are, you'd customize our software by selecting a better choice of colours in the Options menu. It's obvious, we've told you already you should do that if you wan to use the reader and not have to select the colours every time you fire it up. We've stated it before, but for the sake of making sure you understand what we say, here it comes again: We think you're an idiot.
    The choice is obvious to me. But for the less donated of us, I'll say it loud. Yes, we all think the customer is an idiot. But no, we don't tell him that. Never. That's a go-to-bed-without-dinner clause. Response 2 is bad and makes a potential Jerry Springer Show theme out of us.

    Someone stated that Firefox and Opera are not the comparable. You didn't get it - what I wanted to show was that when you ask somebody to solve a problem without making the obvious choice to get a different tool, many of them suggest you to do the obvious. I mean - when my house is infested with mice, and the house nearby is not, I ask who's the man to pacify the cheese robbers and you suggest me to move out. You don't answer my question. You state the same thing that I've come up  to long before I asked an advice.
    Geez. All that because of a captcha (hey, it's ENTERPRISE this time! again!). Looks like the trollish side of the force is very tempting and I couldn't resist. Call me Darth Polish.

    PS. I've got a brand new error - "Non matching quote blocks in post". I guess that sux0rz even more, because all I did was chop it down into small pieces. isTrue()!
  • (cs) in reply to Kiss me, I'm Polish

    Anonymous:
    PS. I've got a brand new error - "Non matching quote blocks in post". I guess that sux0rz even more, because all I did was chop it down into small pieces. isTrue()!

    Why do you have to be the one getting all the funny ones?

    At least you made me laugh.

    Oh, and Alex seems to be looking for another forum software. You might get your wish. Though most other forum software I've seen requires you to register to post.

  • (cs) in reply to Otac0n
    Otac0n:


    Raise your hand if you have ever made an eror message like this.



    I always make error messages like that.  Deliberately.  Mine look like this:

        %DSC-F-BADMAGIC, the value 666 should not have been possible
        -DAC-I-ATORNEAR, from location #3 in module LOCKRTNS
        -DAC-I-DATETIMESTAMP, the failure occurred at 6-JAN-2006:12:34:56

    where the "3" indicates a particular point in the file lockrtns.c (bonus points if you recognize VMS error message syntax).
    I never heard any complaints about my choice of words, "bad magic".

    ok
    dpm
  • (cs) in reply to Kiss me, I'm Polish
    Anonymous Polish Kisser:

    But less seriously, I've expected this kind of an answer. It's not what I want.
    This is like when I ask about a feature in Firefox and people tell me to switch to Opera.
    Go to hell, I don't want Opera. I want Firefox to do my favourite thing, whatever it is.


    You should definitely demand your money back from Alex.  Also from Mozilla.

    TANSTAAFL.  (Roughly translated, "you get what you pay for")

    ok
    dpm
  • (cs) in reply to dpm

    Actually, just remembered another one.  When debugging an app, I got a little mixed up between changing a "hello world" message (intended to show that the program was actually reaching that block of code) to an "end of file" (I think) message.  The actual message the program showed was (wait for it) "end of world". I thought it was quite appropriate when I saw that during testing, but took it out while trying to be professional.

  • The Nerdgod (unregistered) in reply to rogue star

    In the same spirit:
    [image]

  • BudaNET (unregistered)

    The Network Time Protocol Daemon service terminated unexpectedly.
    It has done this 1 time(s). 
    The following corrective action will be taken in 0 milliseconds: No action.


    Guess the OS :)

  • Bill (unregistered) in reply to BudaNET

    That's an easy one: Linux.

  • Juha Nieminen (unregistered) in reply to Malenfant
    Malenfant:
    How were you copying over 4GB on Win98? I upgraded to 2K purely because I needed more than 4GB files (FAT32 doesn't allow them)


    I didn't copy one file of over 4GB but a group of files which combined size was over 4GB (more precisely, the entire contents of one directory).
  • BudaNET (unregistered) in reply to Bill

    No it is not Linux, it is just Win2k, but take a look at the actions, the resons, the almost whole formating of this message is ...useless :)

  • (cs) in reply to BudaNET

    @BudaNet:  That's not a WTF, really.  Of course the message is useless, because it needs to use the service in order to calculate the time.  All that's happened here is that an error has happened (for whatever reason) and has not been handled by the service.  The service control manager catches the error instead, and displays a message.  The message is based on a standard template, and it's just unfortunate that it tries to use the service that crashed.  Enough for a light "huh?" or maybe a small chuckle.  Nothing more.

  • Kiss me, I'm Polish (unregistered) in reply to dpm
    dpm:
    Anonymous Polish Kisser:

    But less seriously, I've expected this kind of an answer. It's not what I want.
    This is like when I ask about a feature in Firefox and people tell me to switch to Opera.
    Go to hell, I don't want Opera. I want Firefox to do my favourite thing, whatever it is.


    You should definitely demand your money back from Alex.  Also from Mozilla.

    TANSTAAFL.  (Roughly translated, "you get what you pay for")

    Here I go.
    Alex, give me back my money. And while you're reading this, please tell Mozilla to do the same.
    I'm going to be filthy rich. But why stop? I'll ask Opera to pay me back too! I've started using the browser when they released it for free.

    I'll email Stallman about this (yes, the bearded mountain himself). He'll probably enjoy the "Free Software means Crappy Software" paradigm. Heck, I'll really do it! The next week my home's going to get incinerated by the open source fanatics (at the front) and asp.net coders (at the backyard). That's going to be one huge bonfire. Everybody's invited! Free lunch!

    I can't understand how one unimportant bugfix request (and I'll be damned if I thought somebody would answer to this part of that post) evolved into this monstruosity - we're talking about alien abductions here, and that's just one post far from Star Wars references. Oh crap.
    MSPANC (roughly translated, "could resist but didn't want to"). See? I know long acronyms too.
  • (cs) in reply to black_rock
    Anonymous:
    brazzy:

    In university, one of my Java projects hat a class CantHappenError.

    Now, after years of software development in various projects have made me wise and experienced, I don't do that anymore. Now I write "This should never happen".

    And thus did he reinvent the wheel. As I recall Java already has AssertionError for that purpose. Btw which is easier to understand/write/whatever: assert(var); (C) or if (!(var)) throw new AssertionError(var); (Java)


    public class AssertionError
    extends Error
    [...]
    Since:
    JDK1.4 

  • rodger (unregistered) in reply to Paul Tomblin

    Yes [^o)]

  • gsmith (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    Alex Papadimoulis:

    The following dialog box reminded Stephan of the ever popular cliché, A Number is worth a thousand words ...

    [image]


    Seems like someone forgot to use strerror()...this would otherwise give you the message "Input/Output Error"

    Here comes a nitpick! That is the Eclipse icon in the corner there, so this was Java code.

  • (cs)

    Here's what I got on my Mac last week:

    [image]

    What I like is that it is 80% of the way through.

  • (cs) in reply to gsmith
    Anonymous:
    Anonymous:
    Alex Papadimoulis:

    The following dialog box reminded Stephan of the ever popular cliché, A Number is worth a thousand words ...

    [image]


    Seems like someone forgot to use strerror()...this would otherwise give you the message "Input/Output Error"

    Here comes a nitpick! That is the Eclipse icon in the corner there, so this was Java code.



    Which means that "5"  was the message text of the exception. and the WTF of not using strerror() to provide a meaningful error text probably lies within the VM.

  • (cs) in reply to Kiss me, I'm Polish


    I'll email Stallman about this (yes, the bearded mountain himself). He'll probably enjoy the "Free Software means Crappy Software" paradigm. Heck, I'll really do it! The next week my home's going to get incinerated by the open source fanatics (at the front) and asp.net coders (at the backyard). That's going to be one huge bonfire. Everybody's invited! Free lunch!

    Nah, this isn't slashdot, you know.  Oh, hang on, at /. they'd throw the ASP.NET coders on the fire (for using Microsoft products).

  • th0mas (unregistered) in reply to black_rock

    Anonymous:
    brazzy:
    In university, one of my Java projects hat a class CantHappenError.

    Now, after years of software development in various projects have made me wise and experienced, I don't do that anymore. Now I write "This should never happen".

    And thus did he reinvent the wheel. As I recall Java already has AssertionError for that purpose. Btw which is easier to understand/write/whatever: assert(var); (C) or if (!(var)) throw new AssertionError(var); (Java)

     

    Actually I think rewriting a java error class would be more akin to, say.. reinventing the "2000 flushes blue + bleach" toilet puck.  No one will care if you do, but at the same time no one really cares if it exists or not...

  • (cs) in reply to LaurieF
    LaurieF:

    Here's what I got on my Mac last week:

    [image]

    What I like is that it is 80% of the way through.



    2023406814  == 0x789ABCDE

    I'm sure it's just a coincidence, though.

    ok
    dpm
  • Ozru (unregistered) in reply to Maurits

    Nobody has mentioned this yet, so I will.

    Back in the good ol' days, using a key to lock a case would also disable the keyboard controller. The whole point of making someone hit F1 was to determine that (A) the case was unlocked, or (B) the case had been forced open and the wires to the lock had been severed or unplugged.

    This way, at least an intruder had to make a physical incursion into the machine before he could do anything with it.

  • LarsW (unregistered) in reply to black_rock
    Anonymous:
    And thus did he reinvent the wheel. As I recall Java already has AssertionError for that purpose. Btw which is easier to understand/write/whatever: assert(var); (C) or if (!(var)) throw new AssertionError(var); (Java)


    Java has the assert keyword too. Just write
     asssert var;


  • R K Quinlivan (unregistered) in reply to UncleMidriff

    It's not that the message is offensive, but can't you imagine a non-computer-savvy person receiving an error message like this and feeling just a little pissed off? In my experience, most persons over the age of 50 are horrified by computers, and look for just about any excuse to believe the damned contraption is going to steal their credit card and send them pornography. Or maybe its just my parents.
    ~ R K Quinlivan

  • Kiss me, I'm Polish (unregistered) in reply to Ozru
    Anonymous:
    Nobody has mentioned this yet, so I will.

    Back in the good ol' days, using a key to lock a case would also disable the keyboard controller. The whole point of making someone hit F1 was to determine that (A) the case was unlocked, or (B) the case had been forced open and the wires to the lock had been severed or unplugged.

    This way, at least an intruder had to make a physical incursion into the machine before he could do anything with it.


    That must have been before the time I remember staring in awe at screens showing "Hit Ctrl+Alt+Delete" floating on the screen at the local mall. Not only they were running Windows NT, the synonyme of luxury, they had coloured screens too.

  • (cs) in reply to d4ddyo

    d4ddyo:
    Yowza. At $230 or $400 an hour, I'd expect there wouldn't be any errors to begin with.

    Get me a job paying that much and I'll try to not make errors. As it is I get (after taxes) something $10 an hour to write software so I'm excused.

  • (cs) in reply to brazzy
    brazzy:
    Anonymous:
    Anonymous:
    Alex Papadimoulis:

    The following dialog box reminded Stephan of the ever popular cliché, A Number is worth a thousand words ...

    [image]


    Seems like someone forgot to use strerror()...this would otherwise give you the message "Input/Output Error"
    Here comes a nitpick! That is the Eclipse icon in the corner there, so this was Java code.


    Which means that "5"  was the message text of the exception. and the WTF of not using strerror() to provide a meaningful error text probably lies within the VM.

    No, the SWT component used here is a heavy component backed by C or C++ code (and is platform dependent).

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