• notme (unregistered) in reply to jkupski
    jkupski:
    The real WTF is N and L having a shouting match, then N returning to his employees and screaming about how stupid L is.

    Management disagreements should be aired behind closed doors, not in public.

    Hm, I don't know...

    Usually those everything-behind-closed-doors policies pisses me off more than anything else...

  • Andrex (unregistered) in reply to Guard
    Guard:
    Is it just coincidence that the two hidden names are the hidden names from the anime "Death Note"?

    If it's on purpose, you would think L would be smarter than this.

    That is exactly what I was thinking when I read "L". Then I read "N" and thought it couldn't possibly be a coincidence.

    But lo and behold...

    PS- N > L

  • Herby (unregistered) in reply to sir_flexalot
    sir_flexalot:
    That's easy to fix, just wear all black w/ski mask, go in the open side door, and write "security's still broken" in lipstick on the CEO's monitor. Repeat as monitors are replaced, until doors are locked or security is fixed.
    You need to do this around 2am or so. Make sure you wake up someone. Every night for a week! Tehy MIGHT get the pciture!
  • rast (unregistered) in reply to Steve
    Steve:
    I had to give them an ultimatum -- either the locks were replaced or I'd have a nice talk with the campus Fire Marshal, who is a known pain in the rear and would most likely find several other violations in his inspection.

    It probably subtly cost me in my performance review but in case of a fire, at least I'm not toast.

    This is the real wtf. Shouldn't have said anything to them, but gone anonymously to the fire marshall.

  • DavidTC (unregistered)

    While we're talking about emergency exits, can I just point out a pet peeve of mine that seems to happen in all the places I'm in.

    Emergency exit signs should not be placed at corridor intersections indication an exit four hundred feet away, when there is in fact an exit fifty feet away if someone would turn around in the cross corridor.

    The point of EE signs is not to indicate the general direction an exit. They are supposed to be at exits. Right there at them. Once they are at every exit, then go out in the hallways and walk around and see if there's any point you can't see one, and then, and only then, feel free to add one pointing the general direction.

    I've see so many buildings that do really stupid shit like put EE signs in the middle of corridors with arrows pointing both ways, or would send people hundreds of feet out of their way, simply because some moron decided that all intersections need EE signs, or they should be every 100 feet, or something. Um, no. Signs go at exits, and at exits only, unless there's somewhere in the hallway people could stand and not see any exit sign.

    I'm just imagining people in burning buildings crawling to emergence exit signs in smoke-filled corridors, only to discover the signs are pointing way down the hallway...back the way they came.

  • (cs) in reply to peterchen
    peterchen:
    Whxy not have dedicated burglar doors? They could open ONLY from the outside, and lead into a small cabinet. Security could pick them off once a wee.
    Once urine, urine til they come for you.
  • (cs) in reply to DavidTC
    DavidTC:
    I'm just imagining people in burning buildings crawling to emergence exit signs in smoke-filled corridors, only to discover the signs are pointing way down the hallway...back the way they came.
    The aim of an emergency evacuation procedure is to get people out of the building before the corridors start filling with smoke. If people wait until the smoke comes, they've waited far too long and many will die. Yes, smoke is that dangerous! The point of the signs is just to remind people what the procedure is.
  • (cs) in reply to lolcats

    This was lame the first time it was posted a few months ago. It isn't any better the second time around. But let's count TRWTS:

    "The new changes involve turning all but three doors into emergency exits"

    3 doors? 3 ways in and out? There should only be a single door that everyone uses for entrance and exit. ONE. period. Maybe a second door that is strictly for shipping/receiving type activities. All other doors are emergency exit only. If you think that things like employee theft and random people wandering in off the street will never happen, then that's TRWTF #1.

    My personal favorites: "One of the doors turned into an emergency exit was the side door that is the closest door to where the vast majority of employees sit." and "a useless back door that only five people sit near"

    WAAAAHHHHH!! They won't let me go in and out the door nearest my desk WAAAAAAAHHH!!. Unless you are in a wheel-chair or otherwise handicapped, this complaint is so stupid and childish you should really be embarrassed to have said it out loud in public.

    Yes it's true that the company's security plans have a few WTFs of their own, including their apparent inablity to figure out how to set up a door that opens from the inside only. But the cry-baby employees aren't helping things.

  • Suomynona (unregistered) in reply to DavidTC
    DavidTC:
    While we're talking about emergency exits, can I just point out a pet peeve of mine that seems to happen in all the places I'm in.

    Emergency exit signs should not be placed at corridor intersections indication an exit four hundred feet away, when there is in fact an exit fifty feet away if someone would turn around in the cross corridor.

    The point of EE signs is not to indicate the general direction an exit. They are supposed to be at exits. Right there at them. Once they are at every exit, then go out in the hallways and walk around and see if there's any point you can't see one, and then, and only then, feel free to add one pointing the general direction.

    I've see so many buildings that do really stupid shit like put EE signs in the middle of corridors with arrows pointing both ways, or would send people hundreds of feet out of their way, simply because some moron decided that all intersections need EE signs, or they should be every 100 feet, or something. Um, no. Signs go at exits, and at exits only, unless there's somewhere in the hallway people could stand and not see any exit sign.

    I'm just imagining people in burning buildings crawling to emergence exit signs in smoke-filled corridors, only to discover the signs are pointing way down the hallway...back the way they came.

    This is a good idea, except that visibility might change in a fire: if the ceiling is full of smoke, an exit sign 150 feet away at the exit might not be visible, so there should be one closer pointing to the closest exit. I think (read: hope) that’s the reason for having them at every corridor intersection.

  • I Thought of Death Note, Too (unregistered) in reply to Andrex
    Andrex:
    Guard:
    Is it just coincidence that the two hidden names are the hidden names from the anime "Death Note"?

    If it's on purpose, you would think L would be smarter than this.

    That is exactly what I was thinking when I read "L". Then I read "N" and thought it couldn't possibly be a coincidence.

    But lo and behold...

    PS- N > L

    The replacements were Mello & Near, not M & N. Though I don't think the fact that their code names started with M & N was any kind of coincidence.

  • I Thought of Death Note, Too (unregistered) in reply to Andrex
    Andrex:
    Guard:
    Is it just coincidence that the two hidden names are the hidden names from the anime "Death Note"?

    If it's on purpose, you would think L would be smarter than this.

    That is exactly what I was thinking when I read "L". Then I read "N" and thought it couldn't possibly be a coincidence.

    But lo and behold...

    PS- N > L

    The replacements were Mello & Near, not M & N. Though I don't think the fact that their code names started with M & N was any kind of coincidence.

  • Hamstray (unregistered)

    How about making the doors only open from the outside. This way burglars can get in but not out again.

  • SJS (unregistered) in reply to D. T. North
    Turns out, the burglers literally sawed through the HOLLOW CORE doors with a drywall saw. They were able to cut a hole big enough in a matter of minutes.

    Years ago, I was working in a building where the downstairs office was burgled, despite the security cameras at every entrance, the 2" solid-core doors at every entrance, and the wired "security glass" set into the steel frame of the doors.

    How did they do it? Why, the smashed their way through the 3/8" drywall next to the door, and then stayed away from the external doors (and thus the security cameras).

    The bad guys aren't above causing a little property damage.

  • blog.thinkaloud.in (unregistered)

    this comment can be read only from inside . :|

  • (cs)

    The door by the VP of Finance didn't have an alarm in case he has to make a break for it when the cops show up.

  • Cope with IT (unregistered)

    There's two words for that: deprovement & sub-optimal (read: complete bollocks)

  • Phil (unregistered)

    I once encountered the opposite scenario.

    Once, a couple of colleagues and I were visiting a customer's site. We had a scheduled meeting that we were early for, so we were led into a side office and asked to wait.

    Now, all the doors in this building were operated by keyfob. Once we were left in there (without fobs, seeing as we were only visitors) I realised there was:

    • No override button on the inside, to let you open the door without a fob.
    • No windows that weren't sealed and covered in mesh (and we were 2 floors up anyway.
    • No telephones, or other means of contacting anyone else in the building.
    • No mobile signal, so we couldn't even phone anyone else in the building.
    • No-one within earshot who could hear us banging on the door (which we started doing after being sat there for 20 minutes).

    Eventually, half an hour after we arrived (and some time after the meeting was due to start) someone remembered we had been put in there and came and let us out. I'd love to know how that passed fire safety inspection...

  • (cs) in reply to Phil
    Phil:
    I once encountered the opposite scenario.

    Once, a couple of colleagues and I were visiting a customer's site. We had a scheduled meeting that we were early for, so we were led into a side office and asked to wait.

    Now, all the doors in this building were operated by keyfob. Once we were left in there (without fobs, seeing as we were only visitors) I realised there was:

    • No override button on the inside, to let you open the door without a fob.
    • No windows that weren't sealed and covered in mesh (and we were 2 floors up anyway.
    • No telephones, or other means of contacting anyone else in the building.
    • No mobile signal, so we couldn't even phone anyone else in the building.
    • No-one within earshot who could hear us banging on the door (which we started doing after being sat there for 20 minutes).

    Eventually, half an hour after we arrived (and some time after the meeting was due to start) someone remembered we had been put in there and came and let us out. I'd love to know how that passed fire safety inspection...

    Contractors you say? Have you killed them yet? They are in the gas chamber as we speak. How long now? About half an hour. Go throw out their corpses.

    I bet you surprised them!

  • Dave (unregistered) in reply to lolcats
    lolcats:
    Why no comments yet? Is this a hidden post?

    It's all a bit too confusing. So N is L's brother, right? Or is L N's long lost cousin from Australia?

  • Patrick (unregistered)

    Does anyone else see this as familiar in some way?

    Step 1: Create a flaw disguised as an improvement Step 2: Ensure no-one wants to use it so they don't see the flaw Step 3: Install as a replacement to something everyone used that worked perfectly before Step 4: Patch it only when the flaw is noticed

    Their security system got Vista'd!

  • (cs) in reply to Al
    Al:
    I kept reading VP of Finance as VP of France. Weird...
    Me, too!!! Very weird...
  • G Money (unregistered)

    You would think that MI5 would have been able to figure this out by now.

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  • thinktwice (unregistered) in reply to OP

    The real WTF is that the security company didn't say anything about stupidity?

  • OBloodyhell (unregistered)

    If it's on purpose, you would think L would be smarter than this.

    He is. He's also DEAD. Clearly, this L is an IMPOSTER!

    I think we've found our mole, ppl!!

    (not to be confused with molemen. Superman took care of them)

    ======================== Death Note. Great movie.

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