• (cs) in reply to AboutToFly
    AboutToFly:
    Franz_Kafka:
    Admittedly, the 'make me a sammich' thing is played out, but look at the bright side: you recognized it as a joke. That's progress.
    Yeah, the fact that I used the word 'joke' several times in my original post is proof that I had no idea you people were joking.

    and yet you spent all that effort remonstrating us for being juvenile (as if we have to live up to your standards). Either accept the culture or git - this isn't a professional environment, it's the bar we go to after work to get drunk and act like prats. High time you clued in.

  • wuffah (unregistered) in reply to AdT

    Bwa ha HA!

    Push that stack.. yea..

  • technomom (unregistered) in reply to AdT

    Syntax error: function must return object of drool.

    Just sayin'

  • Jake (unregistered) in reply to AboutToFly

    ...in that case, Make me some eggs girl

  • Yoggy (unregistered)

    I know you're not an English major, but PLEASE spell "Titus's" right. Just because a name ends with s, does not mean that in the possessive, all you have to put is an apostrophe. You have to put an apostrophe PLUS another s! If you leave out the final s, it implies that "Titus" is a plural word, i.e. one Titu, two Titus. Get it right!

  • Simon D (unregistered)

    No one is prepared to throw the first stone at that guy!

    I'm looking for part-time C# work in Sydney. The Part-Time Developer

  • N Morrison (unregistered)

    Why am I thinking of "The Big Bang Theory"?

  • Dave G. (unregistered) in reply to AboutToFly
    AboutToFly:
    So far in the article and comments, we've had people: - claiming that working with an attractive woman 'torments' male developers, and calling the woman 'something' - saying that she should not be offended by her co-worker's obsession with her - blaming the irresponsible behaviour of the male developer(s) on the woman who is the victim - when someone protests the idiocy of the above comments, acting as if she's the one at fault - calling someone 'love' as a diminutive - referring to stalking - a serious issue - as 'loving too much' - pretending to be Rachelle and acting flattered by all the harassment - making an idiotic joke about restraining orders, disrespecting the victims who actually need them and not because they want to 'show they really care' - continuing the above joke with a 'hard to get' comment - googling 'rachelle programmer' and joking about the unattractiveness of the images that come up - and, of course, insisting on seeing pictures to fantasize over, often at the same time claiming that female coders are not attractive, implying that the purpose of women is to be attractive to please men and that unattractive women are worthless, about 15 times.

    I know I shouldn't have expected better from Internet commenters, but I enjoy this site and the level of misogyny expressed here really disturbs me.

    Pics to prove you're not a biased, embittered ugly chick please.

    Making fun of uptight people whilst attempting to yield pics of cute chicks is a noble tradition on the internet. Indeed, is there any greater calling for the modern, technologically savvy man?

  • McCheese (unregistered) in reply to tamm

    Who tells you? Your mother?

  • McCheese (unregistered) in reply to AboutToFly

    PMS??

  • Simon D (unregistered)

    I think this article has touched more than a nerve!

    I'm looking for part-time C# work in Sydney. The Part-Time Developer

  • (cs) in reply to Franz_Kafka

    Damn humourless feminists can't take a joke.

    They're as bad as those damn humourless niggers. Like, go eat some fried chicken, Sambo.

    Wait, are we being casually rascist, or just casually misogynistic?

  • Franz Kafka (unregistered) in reply to phithe
    phithe:
    Damn humourless feminists can't take a joke.

    They're as bad as those damn humourless niggers. Like, go eat some fried chicken, Sambo.

    Wait, are we being casually rascist, or just casually misogynistic?

    Neither; raging on the humorless is a time-honored tradition.

  • (cs) in reply to phithe
    phithe:
    They're as bad as those damn humourless niggers. Like, go eat some fried chicken, Sambo.

    "Sambo" was an Indian (as in from India, not Native American). You know, just FYI.

  • The Fake WTF (unregistered) in reply to Ciph3r_
    Ciph3r_:
    //TODO: Rachelle

    I guess I'm not the only one who read "Double?" as "Doable?" ...

  • Dave G. (unregistered) in reply to Erzengel
    Erzengel:
    phithe:
    They're as bad as those damn humourless niggers. Like, go eat some fried chicken, Sambo.

    "Sambo" was an Indian (as in from India, not Native American). You know, just FYI.

    In that case, Sambo needs some fried curry chicken.

  • Godot (unregistered) in reply to sf
    sf:
    CAPTCHA: eros:
    100% fairy tale. Everyone knows beautiful programmers don't exist in reality.
    Worked with some, married one.

    </brag>

    Do they know each other?

  • (cs) in reply to Dave G.
    Dave G.:
    AboutToFly:
    So far in the article and comments, we've had people: zzZZzzz

    Pics to prove you're not a biased, embittered ugly chick please.

    Making fun of uptight people whilst attempting to yield pics of cute chicks is a noble tradition on the internet. Indeed, is there any greater calling for the modern, technologically savvy man?

    Agreed. The internets and world as a whole need more people to poke fun at uptight people. All the rest of you (minus the trolls and jokers) need to learn to laugh at yourselves and other people.

  • (cs) in reply to BeenThere

    I'm going to go a little overboard here and ask: what language is that? It looks like Java with nullable types. Is it Nice? Maybe it's C# with WTF-naming conventions. Oh, and the magic "arry" variable whose scope somehow crosses a function boundary.

  • (cs) in reply to spxza
    spxza:
    All the rest of you (minus the trolls and jokers) need to learn to laugh at yourselves and other people.
    Ha-ha! Your post is ironic; telling other people how to behave and accusing them to be high-and-mighty at the same time.

    I'm halfway there!

  • tonecoke (unregistered) in reply to Lincoln Spendthrift

    [quote user="Lincoln Spendthrift"][quote user="seamustheseagull"]hmmm ... what's the C++ implementation of beer goggles again?[/quote]

    gaussian blur

  • Geroni (unregistered) in reply to BeenThere

    getStringFromObject()

  • Chip (unregistered) in reply to Chip
    Carolyn:
    Chip:
    Carolyn:
    Not a girl. At least, this story is a hell of a lot creepier if she was a girl.

    What should have been the todo: Stop being a horny creep and act like a grown up man who can interact with women like an adult.

    Axe to grind, love?

    I'm not your love.

    sighs

    The fact that you felt the need to pick on the use of the word "girl" rather than "woman" told me all I needed to know about you, hence my very deliberate response...in summary you're a pillock.

    Looking for any opportunity to grind your axe, even if you have to crowbar it into the discussion.

    This:

    AboutToFly:
    So far in the article and comments, we've had people: - claiming that working with an attractive woman 'torments' male developers, and calling the woman 'something' - saying that she should not be offended by her co-worker's obsession with her - blaming the irresponsible behaviour of the male developer(s) on the woman who is the victim - when someone protests the idiocy of the above comments, acting as if she's the one at fault - calling someone 'love' as a diminutive - referring to stalking - a serious issue - as 'loving too much' - pretending to be Rachelle and acting flattered by all the harassment - making an idiotic joke about restraining orders, disrespecting the victims who actually need them and not because they want to 'show they really care' - continuing the above joke with a 'hard to get' comment - googling 'rachelle programmer' and joking about the unattractiveness of the images that come up - and, of course, insisting on seeing pictures to fantasize over, often at the same time claiming that female coders are not attractive, implying that the purpose of women is to be attractive to please men and that unattractive women are worthless, about 15 times.

    I know I shouldn't have expected better from Internet commenters, but I enjoy this site and the level of misogyny expressed here really disturbs me.

    Must be a troll, surely!

  • (cs) in reply to ahnfelt
    ahnfelt:
    spxza:
    All the rest of you (minus the trolls and jokers) need to learn to laugh at yourselves and other people.
    Ha-ha! Your post is ironic; telling other people how to behave and accusing them to be high-and-mighty at the same time.

    I'm halfway there!

    Halfway there? What, are just you high?

  • (cs) in reply to seamustheseagull

    Hot computer geek?

    [image]

    Ok, i do apologise. Being called a geek implies that one has some sort of intelligence.

  • (cs) in reply to AboutToFly
    AboutToFly:
    So far in the article and comments, we've had people: - claiming that working with an attractive woman 'torments' male developers, and calling the woman 'something' - saying that she should not be offended by her co-worker's obsession with her - blaming the irresponsible behaviour of the male developer(s) on the woman who is the victim - when someone protests the idiocy of the above comments, acting as if she's the one at fault - calling someone 'love' as a diminutive - referring to stalking - a serious issue - as 'loving too much' - pretending to be Rachelle and acting flattered by all the harassment - making an idiotic joke about restraining orders, disrespecting the victims who actually need them and not because they want to 'show they really care' - continuing the above joke with a 'hard to get' comment - googling 'rachelle programmer' and joking about the unattractiveness of the images that come up - and, of course, insisting on seeing pictures to fantasize over, often at the same time claiming that female coders are not attractive, implying that the purpose of women is to be attractive to please men and that unattractive women are worthless, about 15 times.

    I know I shouldn't have expected better from Internet commenters, but I enjoy this site and the level of misogyny expressed here really disturbs me.

    Oh calm down love, the men are talking here. Now run along and get us a nice cup 'o tea.

    Addendum (2008-10-21 05:19): ... oh, and a sandwich of course.

  • grammernarzee (unregistered) in reply to tamm
    tamm:
    /me frowns Tamm: I'm a girl, I'm in IT, and I consider myself a decent programmer (better than a whole lot I've seen) and I'm told I'm beautiful almost every day.
    Which particular days are you beautiful on? And on which days might you be less up yourself? Perhaps if you can find us the intersect of the 2, we'll come round on those days only.
  • (cs) in reply to FunnyChauvinist
    Yeah, seriously. Can't you see how hilarious misogyny is? Treating women as inferior is just so damn funny. Not for the women, obviously, but they're inferior anyways, so who cares?

    Yes, exactly, because everything people post on internet forums is completely serious, devoid of irony or sarcasm, and truly representative of the posters actual opinion and feelings. Oh, and of course, nobody ever posts things to provoke, either.

  • (cs)
  • itsmo (unregistered) in reply to AC
    AC:
    AboutToFly:
    No, the fact that I believe women and men should have equal rights and that people should not be discriminated against based on their sex makes me a feminist. Care to explain why that's so bad?

    Whoa, I didn't know I was a feminist.

    Don't you (americans) have equal rights written out in the Constitution ore something?

    I think you are right, there probably is a such a thing but I believe the wording only mentions men and they did kind of ignore it anyways during the slavery era.

  • yah (unregistered) in reply to AboutToFly
    AboutToFly:
    Dirk Diggler:
    AboutToFly, get in the kitchen an make a sandwich then put on somethin' nice.
    Chris:
    Get back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich.
    jason:
    Do your part to end world hunger. Shut up and make me a sandwich.
    Way to make the exact same joke three times (which was hardly new before being posted here) to make fun of me for being a humourless feminist.

    At first I thought this was a (very good) troll - you were serious?

  • yah (unregistered) in reply to Yoggy
    Yoggy:
    I know you're not an English major, but PLEASE spell "Titus's" right. Just because a name ends with s, does not mean that in the possessive, all you have to put is an apostrophe. You have to put an apostrophe PLUS another s! If you leave out the final s, it implies that "Titus" is a plural word, i.e. one Titu, two Titus. Get it right!

    Exactly - the plural of Titus would be Tita. (Or if you were being censored, Breastus and Breasta).

  • Hank Marvin (until luncheon) (unregistered) in reply to itsmo
    itsmo:
    AC:
    AboutToFly:
    No, the fact that I believe women and men should have equal rights and that people should not be discriminated against based on their sex makes me a feminist. Care to explain why that's so bad?

    Whoa, I didn't know I was a feminist.

    Don't you (americans) have equal rights written out in the Constitution ore something?

    I think you are right, there probably is a such a thing but I believe the wording only mentions men and they did kind of ignore it anyways during the slavery era.

    Monty Python:
    FRANCIS: Yeah. I think Judith's point of view is very valid, Reg, provided the Movement never forgets that it is the inalienable right of every man-- STAN: Or woman. FRANCIS: Or woman... to rid himself-- STAN: Or herself. FRANCIS: Or herself. REG: Agreed. FRANCIS: Thank you, brother. STAN: Or sister. FRANCIS: Or sister. Where was I? REG: I think you'd finished. FRANCIS: Oh. Right. REG: Furthermore, it is the birthright of every man-- STAN: Or woman. REG: Why don't you shut up about women, Stan. You're putting us off.

    Can you imagine the LOTR script?!

    Aragorn: Sons...

    Carolyn/AboutToFly: DAUGHTERS

    Aragorn: ...of Gondor! Of Rohan! My brothers!

    Carolyn/AboutToFly: SISTERS!

    Aragorn: I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of men...

    Carolyn/AboutToFly: and women...

    Aragorn: ...fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship. But it is not this day! An hour of wolves and shattered shields, when the Age of Men...

    Carolyn/AboutToFly: and women...

    Aragorn: ...comes crashing down! But it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand! Men of the West!

    Carolyn/AboutToFly: Women of the West!

    Aragorn: facepalm

  • (cs) in reply to tbrown
    tbrown:
    double - for backwards compatibility with C/C++ code. Is really... Double - short for System.Double, the actual .NET value type. Since the System namespace is usually in use you would rarely have to type it explicitely.
    I understand all the above except why anyone would be daft enough to give a single entity two names. The “back-compat” argument is silly, given that it's unreasonable to expect to be able to cut-n-paste C++ code and have it work without any changes, since correcting the type names is easy to do mechanically. (Not that the argument is not the truth though. Things have been done for dafter reasons…)
  • Sis (unregistered) in reply to Lincoln Spendthrift

    Well, actually this is the first time I have read about the existence of another good looking female programmer, who's actually competent. All this time I thought I was the only one walking the surface of this earth. But now turns out I am probably not alone.

    Female programmers in general? Oh yes, of the 100+ programmers I know I have met 2 other females. They came from poor distant countries and were not good looking (sorry girls). And their developing skills were only so so. You wouldn't want them on any job that requires insight to make an architecture for a large applications or websites.

    I applied for a few jobs a few weeks ago, one of them was large company. I met most of the developers.

    This was because I was hired after the first interview, but I was far from convinced, so I wanted to see more of the company and in the end decided not to work there. Because..

    Turned out, they had over 60 male developers, none of them were female. In every cubicle I was welcomed with big smiles 'come work on this department, this is the best job you will ever find, seriously ;) ;) ;) '.

    Yes, that was scary. I am glad to work at a small company and own my own business, consulting, managing and programming. Not stuck in a cubicle amidst scary lonely nerds, making boring billable hours changing/adding to and debugging rotten applications. And no, an expensive lease car won't ease the pain and boredom.

  • Paulg (unregistered)

    Yes. They do exist. Gorgeous, capable, female developers. I had the good fortune to work with one (married, sigh). Not only was she one of the best coders I have ever worked with, but she had a evil sense of humour. She once wrote a method to check if a specific excell spreadsheet was available for processing. Method name - sheethappens. And it was used everywhere. Code review for that project was very entertaining.

  • Melnorme (unregistered)

    Stop stop STOP posting that XKCD comic! Sheesh

  • Ckoz (unregistered) in reply to BeenThere
    BeenThere:
    At least he didn't create a Rachelle class, women hate to be thought of as objects.

    Best Comment Ever!

  • (cs) in reply to Sis
    Sis:
    Turned out, they had over 60 male developers, none of them were female. In every cubicle I was welcomed with big smiles 'come work on this department, this is the best job you will ever find, seriously ;) ;) ;) '.

    This is kinda sad. I work at a company with a large programming team that just split into two. The only woman on the team got to lead the new team, and she's very respected by the other guys. And she's quite attractive.

    But honestly, seeing all programmers as horny nerds is just as biased as seeing all womens as objects. The real WTF is that (some) girls are taking the comments seriously.

    And btw, I found the story very... er.. cute =]

  • Anonymous (unregistered)

    Oh wow, this has been fun. I'm pleased to say that I've learnt two very important lessons today. One, women do exist in IT even though they're highly scarce and generally unnotable. And two, they are all up-tight militant feminist dykes who are blissfully incapable of separating their feminist agendas from good old fashioned misogynist humour.

    All I can say is you better be damn good at making sammiches. I take mine on rye bread thanks love.

  • katastrofa (unregistered) in reply to Dave G.
    Dave G.:
    Pics to prove you're not a biased, embittered ugly chick please.
    Pics to prove you're not a fat nerd living alone in his mother's basement please.
    Making fun of uptight people whilst attempting to yield pics of cute chicks is a noble tradition on the internet. Indeed, is there any greater calling for the modern, technologically savvy man?

    Getting a life, for example.

  • (cs) in reply to Sis

    Simple solution: Work for an advertising related company (/me works for a small media broadcaster). Wow wow wowee wow! The girls of advertising are amazing!

    I have gone on many sales pitches to see the talent...erm...I meant to determine if a campaign is technically feasible.

  • SMB (unregistered)
  • Dirk Diggler (unregistered) in reply to Sis
    Sis:
    'Well, actually this is the first time I have read about the existence of another good looking female programmer, who's actually competent. All this time I thought I was the only one walking the surface of this earth. But now turns out I am probably _not_ alone'.
    You know you two should get together and attempt to breed so that hot competent female programmers don't become extinct. I would like to volunteer my services to document the mating on video tape.
  • ath (unregistered) in reply to and Weeeeeeee!
    and Weeeeeeee!:
    Lincoln Spendthrift:
    seamustheseagull:
    TRWTF is that no pics of Rachelle were included.
    Be careful what you ask for. All we know is that she was (probably) female and could (probably) code. Those two attributes alone are enough to overwhelm the hotness detectors of most developers. The remaining descriptions could be attributed to ... hmmm ... what's the C++ implementation of beer goggles again?

    #include beer.h // usage: Beer(type, size, light) Beer b = new Beer(BeerType.Lager, 16, false); int tolerance = b.CalculateTolerance(myWeight, drinksPerWeek); for (int i = 0; i < tolerance; i++) b.Drink();

    b.HitOnGirls();

    Your glass is empty!

    Girl rachelle; Nerd me; while(me.AlcoholLevel < 2.0) me.Drink(new Beer());

    int x = 23; while(me.AlcoholLevel > 0.5) if((x = (18 * x + 4711) % 20) < 10) me.HitOn(rachelle) else me.Drink(new Beer());

    Drunk guys are so predictable...

  • Sis (unregistered) in reply to glassx

    I have met a whole lot of horny nerds. Including guys asking me questions 'only a woman could answer' (don't tell me you don't know what those questions may be!) and, how could one forget, the lan or afterwork -all nerds had some beer- porn sharing nights. I once got a request from one such fellow if I could please wear less sexy clothes on lanparties.

    Hugs

    Sis, a feminist militant dyke, shit I better get rid of that boyfriend, those high heels, those earrings and that skirt. -omg! what have i become! -

  • blindd0t (unregistered) in reply to AdT

    Push(); InjectChildData(); Pull();

    Wouldn't that just be: Push(); Pop();

  • Dave G. (unregistered) in reply to katastrofa
    katastrofa:
    Dave G.:
    Pics to prove you're not a biased, embittered ugly chick please.
    Pics to prove you're not a fat nerd living alone in his mother's basement please.
    Making fun of uptight people whilst attempting to yield pics of cute chicks is a noble tradition on the internet. Indeed, is there any greater calling for the modern, technologically savvy man?

    Getting a life, for example.

    Oddly enough, not all programmers are fat nerds living in their mother's basements without lives.

    Now see, I understand you said that without truly believing that all programmers are like that, and you were attempting to be humourous. This power of observation allows me not to get riled up! In truth, I did enjoy your riposte. Well done.

    However, my powers of observation are so good that I've noticed what appears to be a double-standard - some people want to complain about stereotypes against female programmers, but are quick to introduce different stereotypes against male programmers. Imagine that! It's almost as if we're all behaving the way people behave.

    Stereotypes are often maligned when we really couldn't function at all without them. They serve as a useful filter of information. If we couldn't generalise and abstract any of the information we're bombarded with every day, our brains would be overworked to the point that we would never have had time to evolve the intelligence we now have.

    So I like stereotypes and I'll continue using them, cause statistically I'll be right more than I'm wrong, and it's funny when people get annoyed at what is essentially an information-coping mechanism devised by our sub-concious mind masters.

    My advice is to just relax and enjoy life. Stop being so eager to be offended by everything, especially on the internet.

    Anyway, I'm happy to provide a picture. You first though (if you're a dude the deals off - yes I'm being sexist, I don't care). Warning: I am dead sexy.

  • Brian Boyko (unregistered) in reply to BeenThere

    Aww...

    ...honestly, I'd say this falls well on the "sweet" side of the "sweet/creepy" boundary. He was obviously smitten, to the point where he couldn't keep his mind off her, but did notice that the program did, indeed, need a better name.

  • orochi (unregistered) in reply to AdT
    AdT:
    private drool Rachelle(string tanga)
{
    DecorateInterior();
    InviteVisitor();
    ObtainThreadHandle();
    UnwrapObject();
    TouchStructure();
    Unzip();
    InsertStub();
    Push();
    InjectChildData();
    Pull();
    Sleep(8 * 3600);
}
    Pity you end up *never* using your `tanga'. ;-)

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