• (cs) in reply to McCheese
    McCheese:
    PMS??
    Funny, I was under the impression that generally happens only to women.
  • (cs) in reply to Dave G.
    Dave G.:
    katastrofa:
    Dave G.:
    Pics to prove you're not a biased, embittered ugly chick please.
    Pics to prove you're not a fat nerd living alone in his mother's basement please.
    Making fun of uptight people whilst attempting to yield pics of cute chicks is a noble tradition on the internet. Indeed, is there any greater calling for the modern, technologically savvy man?

    Getting a life, for example.

    Oddly enough, not all programmers are fat nerds living in their mother's basements without lives.

    Now see, I understand you said that without truly believing that all programmers are like that, and you were attempting to be humourous. This power of observation allows me not to get riled up! In truth, I did enjoy your riposte. Well done.

    However, my powers of observation are so good that I've noticed what appears to be a double-standard - some people want to complain about stereotypes against female programmers, but are quick to introduce different stereotypes against male programmers. Imagine that! It's almost as if we're all behaving the way people behave.

    Stereotypes are often maligned when we really couldn't function at all without them. They serve as a useful filter of information. If we couldn't generalise and abstract any of the information we're bombarded with every day, our brains would be overworked to the point that we would never have had time to evolve the intelligence we now have.

    So I like stereotypes and I'll continue using them, cause statistically I'll be right more than I'm wrong, and it's funny when people get annoyed at what is essentially an information-coping mechanism devised by our sub-concious mind masters.

    My advice is to just relax and enjoy life. Stop being so eager to be offended by everything, especially on the internet.

    Anyway, I'm happy to provide a picture. You first though (if you're a dude the deals off - yes I'm being sexist, I don't care). Warning: I am dead sexy.

    I don't condone the usage of any stereotypes, be they against men or women. You claim that stereotypes are true more often than they are false, but I don't believe that either the "embittered ugly chick" feminist stereotype or the "fat nerd living alone in his mother's basement" programmer stereotype are true very often. I know a lot of feminists who are beautiful, and if they are angry, it is usually for a good reason; just as I know a lot of programmers who are not fat or overly nerdy and have normal social lives. But the biggest problem with stereotypes is that they're very often negative, and it's best not to make negative assumptions about people who you don't know.

    As far as the advice to relax, I'm actually not getting riled up by anything people say here. If that starts to happen, I'll just leave. Right now I'm enjoying having this debate with those of you who are willing.

  • Steve (unregistered)

    I had a friend and colleague who actually quit a job because it became apparent to him that he was falling rather seriously for a rather attractive female coworker. Since he was married and also loved his wife and family, the only thing he could do was leave the job and put a few hundred miles between him and the object of his desire.

    I've always admired his decision to put loyalty and responsibility before, shall we say, things somewhat baser.

  • (cs) in reply to AboutToFly
    AboutToFly:
    As far as the advice to relax, I'm actually not getting riled up by anything people say here. If that starts to happen, I'll just leave. Right now I'm enjoying having this debate with those of you who are willing.

    Funny, I didn't interpret it as that. To me, it's more 'shrill annoying thing demanding we all conform to her ideas of propriety', to which the logical response is 'make fun of her till she develops an eating disorder' (taking a page from the female playbook, here).

  • Andre (unregistered) in reply to AdT
    AdT:
    private drool Rachelle(string tanga)
{
    DecorateInterior();
    InviteVisitor();
    ObtainThreadHandle();
    UnwrapObject();
    TouchStructure();
    Unzip();
    InsertStub();
    Push();
    InjectChildData();
    Pull();
    Sleep(8 * 3600);
}

    I think you are missing a repeat/until-loop around the push/pull-part.

    CAPTCHA: genitus. I kid you not.

  • Resa (unregistered) in reply to AdT

    Only one push?

    Typical male programmer...

    AdT:
    private drool Rachelle(string tanga)
{
    DecorateInterior();
    InviteVisitor();
    ObtainThreadHandle();
    UnwrapObject();
    TouchStructure();
    Unzip();
    InsertStub();
    Push();
    InjectChildData();
    Pull();
    Sleep(8 * 3600);
}
  • Tonya (unregistered) in reply to BeenThere

    Well, when you stare at lines of code all day, why not inject a bit of humor? (I am always tempted to and save it for my comment lines.) I say, if the code is easy to follow, who cares if the naming conventions are, well, obsessive. This article made my crappy code week better.... thank you!

  • JJ (unregistered) in reply to AboutToFly
    I don't condone the usage of any stereotypes, be they against men or women. You claim that stereotypes are true more often than they are false, but I don't believe that either the "embittered ugly chick" feminist stereotype or the "fat nerd living alone in his mother's basement" programmer stereotype are true very often. I know a lot of feminists who are beautiful, and if they are angry, it is usually for a good reason; just as I know a lot of programmers who are not fat or overly nerdy and have normal social lives. But the biggest problem with stereotypes is that they're very often negative, and it's best not to make negative assumptions about people who you don't know.

    Whatever. What you believe about stereotypes is irrelevant--that's your own stereotypes talking. "I know a lot of" is the classic start of a sentence in which someone is using a stereotype. Just because you know a bunch of people doesn't mean that it statistically holds up.

    I would bet you make plenty of other stereotypes about people. Sensing for whatever odd reason that you might be leftist (I'm neither left nor right nor centrist, there's another stereotype, that someone who isn't a leftist must be a conservative), you no doubt stereotype religious people, corporate VPs, and European white males. Most people who claim they don't fall victim to stereotypes are flat out lying.

    There are few women in software development, therefore they stand out. Any female who is anywhere near good looking is really going to stand out--particularly since a good number of programmers are immature, socially awkward, and horny males (and there's an ugly stereotype, but few people are going to refute it). That in turn feeds on itself--I have to figure many women avoid the whole industry due to this stereotype, why would someone subject themselves to working amongst a bunch of juveniles?

    The problem is ignoring that there are differences between males and females, not just biologic, but also with respect to emotion, communication, and thought process. Whether that has to be is irrelevant--it is, and people who want to pretend there is no difference are part of the problem. There are a small number of female programmers. Shouldn't we try to understand why?

    It's healthy to discuss differences and probe at stereotypes, and to explore why stereotypes exist. What's not healthy is to stifle such discussion or to use such stereotypes as a basis for discrimination. A forum like this where people can make a few jokes is preferable to pretending there's nothing to talk about, and thus burying the whole discussion.

    "Celebrating diversity!" should include celebrations around sex, and it also means that we opine about differences.

  • Andrew (unregistered) in reply to Resa

    Expecting the male to do all of the work?

    Resa:
    Only one push?

    Typical male programmer...

    AdT:
    private drool Rachelle(string tanga)
{
    DecorateInterior();
    InviteVisitor();
    ObtainThreadHandle();
    UnwrapObject();
    TouchStructure();
    Unzip();
    InsertStub();
    Push();
    InjectChildData();
    Pull();
    Sleep(8 * 3600);
}
  • (cs) in reply to Troy
    Troy:
    TRWTF is how he couldn't even spell 'array' properly.

    If you knew Rachelle...

  • jop (unregistered) in reply to AdT
    AdT:
    private drool Rachelle(string tanga)
{
    DecorateInterior();
    InviteVisitor();
    ObtainThreadHandle();
    UnwrapObject();
    TouchStructure();
    Unzip();
    InsertStub();
    Push();
    InjectChildData();
    Pull();
    Sleep(8 * 3600);
}
    To avoid warnings : ... Pull(); PutOnHead(tanga); Sleep(8 * 3600);
  • Just another misogynist (unregistered) in reply to FunnyChauvinist
    FunnyChauvinist:
    Franz_Kafka:
    /ps. everything's funny. Every Thing

    Yeah, seriously. Can't you see how hilarious misogyny is? Treating women as inferior is just so damn funny. Not for the women, obviously, but they're inferior anyways, so who cares?

    You failed to understand that the people made the butt of this humour are the people who actually think like that.

  • Anal retentive (unregistered) in reply to Erzengel
    Erzengel:
    phithe:
    They're as bad as those damn humourless niggers. Like, go eat some fried chicken, Sambo.

    "Sambo" was an Indian (as in from India, not Native American). You know, just FYI.

    The word was however used in 70s-ish Britain to indicate a black person.

  • Rob (unregistered)

    Titus only demoted himself because he found out Rachelle used to be a guy. :)

  • AdT is an idiot (unregistered) in reply to AdT

    and a first-class contributing cause to the dearth of females in IT.

  • Bitch slapper (unregistered) in reply to AboutToFly

    bitches should be slapped

  • Ch1xor (unregistered) in reply to BeenThere

    To quote The Big Lebowski: "He treats objects like women!"

  • Sammy (unregistered)

    I'm confused. Rachelle could have been his daughter's or girlfriend's or wife's name too couldn't they? Why jump to the conclusion he's infatuated with this particular Rachelle?

  • Mr. Breakwell (unregistered) in reply to AdT

    I love you for creating this comment. Please call me soon.

  • chreng (unregistered) in reply to AdT
    AdT:
    private drool Rachelle(string tanga)
{
    DecorateInterior();
    InviteVisitor();
    ObtainThreadHandle();
    UnwrapObject();
    TouchStructure();
    Unzip();
    InsertStub();
    Push();
    InjectChildData();
    Pull();
    Sleep(8 * 3600);
}

    Code like this, never gets old.

  • Maddie (unregistered)

    //TODO: Learn that women devs are just like male devs and would really rather you don't get super creepy like the people in the story + comments

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