• David C (unregistered)

    So, you download MySQL and use it for the database...

  • keith (unregistered) in reply to RogerInHawaii
    RogerInHawaii:
    Anon:
    A server query language database.

    I always thought SQL stood for Structured Query Language.

    Correct, and the pre-trademark-lawsuit version, "Structured English QUEry Language" was properly known as SEQUEL.

  • Ben (unregistered) in reply to Steve
    Steve:
    Some Wonk:
    <troll>But...XML IS a database, isn't it?</troll>
    Of sorts, yes. Not sure what the troll tags were for, your basic assertion is accurate. A piece of paper can be a database, after all.

    No it's not. English isn't a database, though arguably a shopping list written in English could be considered one.

    And you're also ignoring the difference between a database and a DBMS, which is like conflating a Word document and the Word application.

  • Matt Westwood (unregistered) in reply to operagost
    operagost:
    Pop ulus:
    No, that isn't Affirmative Action. At all. Read some Tim Wise before you make an ass out of yourself again.
    Try thinking for yourself before you level personal attacks at someone you don't know, you presumptive cretin.

    Misuse of affirmative action often results in bringing in woefully under qualified (in this example, quite an understatement) candidates in order to satisfy a policy, usually a racial, nationality, or gender quota.

    Notice that we don't know whether the candidate fell into any of these categories, except possibly the last being that women are still generally under represented in IT.

    "Incompetence" by Rob Grant is an interesting riff on this social trend. A thoroughly entertaining (although marginally implausible) read.

  • d (unregistered)

    I hope the person in #2 dies tomorrow. Seriously. She represents so much of what's wrong with society right now.

  • Macho (unregistered) in reply to d
    d:
    I hope the person in #2 dies tomorrow. Seriously. She represents so much of what's wrong with society right now.

    Actually i wish YOU will die today.

  • (cs)

    There is only one internets explorer, and her name is Dora.

  • reader (unregistered) in reply to Peter

    Krishna is a common unisex name... so it wouldn't disconcert any Indian atleast.

  • Burpy (unregistered) in reply to Ben
    Ben:
    Steve:
    Some Wonk:
    <troll>But...XML IS a database, isn't it?</troll>
    Of sorts, yes. Not sure what the troll tags were for, your basic assertion is accurate. A piece of paper can be a database, after all.

    No it's not. English isn't a database, though arguably a shopping list written in English could be considered one.

    Oh, so the troll tag was just an anticipation

  • Steve (unregistered) in reply to Burpy
    Burpy:
    Ben:
    Steve:
    Some Wonk:
    <troll>But...XML IS a database, isn't it?</troll>
    Of sorts, yes. Not sure what the troll tags were for, your basic assertion is accurate. A piece of paper can be a database, after all.
    No it's not. English isn't a database, though arguably a shopping list written in English could be considered one.
    Oh, so the troll tag was just an anticipation
    Exactly what I was thinking! Predictive troll tags, how do they work?
  • MegaByte (unregistered)

    Tier-3 Supporting (from Catherine Dunham)

    That woman actually sounds like someone I'd manage to work with.

    1. She is honest: Who'd bust their ass restoring shit?
    2. She knows her shit: See above.
    3. She knows you know shit so she dresses properly in order to display this very fact to me, thus she is smart and, see 3.

    ERGO. I wanna work with her.

  • Moschops (unregistered) in reply to Mr. TA

    "The real WTF is the support team's inability to tell HR to go where they belong upfront. "Not wanting to start any fights" = coward and pussy and idiotic and the real WTF. " - Mr. TA

    Do you have a non-aspergic manager who can keep you from causing damage?

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    Anon:
    Machtyn:
    Anonymous:
    "An SQL database", not "A SQL database".
    Depends on how you pronounce it: S-Q-L or "sequel".

    Right, it's a sequel database or an es-que-el database.

    You have to say it as if you were elongating the acronym.

    A server query language database. An server query language database.

    Obviously "A" is correct.

    No you don't (aside from the structured/server mix-up already mentioned several times). "A S-Q-L" is wrong, regardless of what the acronym elongates to. It might be correct to write it that way, but it's never right to say it that way.

  • Brad (unregistered)

    "I get paid. If you expect me to deal with all that [X] shit, I'll go off on stress leave and sue you."

    Not a major wtf; the candidate just mistook the job for a union gig.

  • hmmm (unregistered)

    Personally, I like number 3 the best. And I wonder if this was a one-time deal or if the manager makes a practice of this sort of thing. Seems like you could get quite a lot of free work (if piecemeal) by pulling in people for interview and assigning them small tasks that it would take your devs an hour or so to do. Combine that with free interns and you could really save some money in the most evil fashion possible.

    Hell, in this economy you could even get some people to work for free while teasing them with the lure of a job a week or so down the road.

  • EricS (unregistered) in reply to airdrik

    Just sign up for a $4 account with some SQL Server hosting system, like http://www.sqlservermart.com/ and set up the database there. The ability to improvise is important. Then again, you are definitely better off without that job.

  • CoderDan (unregistered) in reply to sheldon
    sheldon:
    CoderDan:
    I stand by my original statement. How many think of AA and think of women or those with disabilities? Very few!
    So you call the guy an ass twice, the first time without even knowing what he meant, the second time despite him telling you exactly what he meant, just because for somebody else affirmative action means black/hispanic people? Wow, that a great way to combat stereotyping...

    How do you figure that I insulted anyone? I responded to someone saying "Must have been affirmative action". Those weren't my words, and I took exception to the blatant statement that being unqualified must mean they are an inferior race or gender.

    Did I call anyone an ass? No, I responded because the characterization of inferiority based upon unrelated factors of race or gender. I am wrong for objecting to the stereotype?

    captcha: dolor - What you get back from a five

  • CoderDan (unregistered) in reply to Matt Westwood
    Matt Westwood:
    operagost:
    Pop ulus:
    No, that isn't Affirmative Action. At all. Read some Tim Wise before you make an ass out of yourself again.
    Try thinking for yourself before you level personal attacks at someone you don't know, you presumptive cretin.

    Misuse of affirmative action often results in bringing in woefully under qualified (in this example, quite an understatement) candidates in order to satisfy a policy, usually a racial, nationality, or gender quota.

    Notice that we don't know whether the candidate fell into any of these categories, except possibly the last being that women are still generally under represented in IT.

    "Incompetence" by Rob Grant is an interesting riff on this social trend. A thoroughly entertaining (although marginally implausible) read.

    For all the affirmative action nuts out there. AA only comes into play when dealing with federal contracts above a certain dollar amount. In state or municipal requirements it varies. But as a general rule, you may hire whomever you choose. If you want a government contract then yes, there may be some rules for AA.

    Since the job interview didn't state what type of company or contract then we can't logically assume that AA is in force. Can we?

    Captch: gravis - old gamepad

  • Jay (unregistered) in reply to CoderDan
    CoderDan:
    AT:
    CoderDan:
    Pop ulus:
    No, that isn't Affirmative Action. At all. Read some Tim Wise before you make an ass out of yourself again.

    Especially since race was never mentioned, nor can it be implied or assumed by the story. Reminds me of a WTF I'll post one of these days.

    Almost certainly affirmative action. You must have no idea how sensitive US companies are about the fact that they can't interview and hire enough black candidates in technical positions. And justifiably so since there are more than a few race-mongering shakedown artists trolling for potential discrimination lawsuits based on little more than worker vs general population racial composition. The more than 100 developer interviews I've conducted over the past 14 years included exactly ONE black candidate (who I hired because he was damn good). You can put whatever explanation you want on those stats, but they make the HR departments of hyper-race conscious US companies very uneasy.

    I stand by my original statement. How many think of AA and think of women or those with disabilities? Very few! So when someone says 'affirmative action', it is almost always to imply 'that [black|hispanic] person got the job because of their color'.

    Am I wrong? In conducting 1,200+ interviews I would tend to say no. As for gender, there is a strong skewing of man vs. woman.

    So let me see if I understand this last post. You admit that the original statement that you ridiculed was, in fact, accurate. But you "stand by" your criticism on the grounds that most people wouldn't immediately realize that it was, in fact, correct. So you insist that it is correct to say someone is wrong when he is, in fact, right, as long as "most people" would (incorrectly) think he was wrong. Or something like that.

    I think if you asked the average American who was included under affirmative action, the vast majority would say "women and minorities". But even if 99% of the people don't know the right answer to a question, it's difficult to see how that makes the wrong answer right.

  • Jay (unregistered) in reply to CoderDan
    CoderDan:
    For all the affirmative action nuts out there. AA only comes into play when dealing with federal contracts above a certain dollar amount. In state or municipal requirements it varies. But as a general rule, you may hire whomever you choose. If you want a government contract then yes, there *may* be some rules for AA.

    Since the job interview didn't state what type of company or contract then we can't logically assume that AA is in force. Can we?

    Umm, no. While the exact rules are different depending on just which law applies to a particular form of discrimination, in general anti-discrimination laws apply to all companies in the U.S. that have 15 or more employees.

    http://www.eeoc.gov/employers/coverage_private.cfm

  • CoderDan (unregistered) in reply to Jay
    Jay:
    CoderDan:
    For all the affirmative action nuts out there. AA only comes into play when dealing with federal contracts above a certain dollar amount. In state or municipal requirements it varies. But as a general rule, you may hire whomever you choose. If you want a government contract then yes, there *may* be some rules for AA.

    Since the job interview didn't state what type of company or contract then we can't logically assume that AA is in force. Can we?

    Umm, no. While the exact rules are different depending on just which law applies to a particular form of discrimination, in general anti-discrimination laws apply to all companies in the U.S. that have 15 or more employees.

    http://www.eeoc.gov/employers/coverage_private.cfm

    N/A - I never mentioned discrimination, but rather quota based hiring given a race, gender or disability. The comment wasn't "Ohhh must be a company of 15" - but rather, an incompetent and petulant woman - "must be affirmative action" LOL

    You guys can have your topic back.

  • CoderDan (unregistered) in reply to Jay
    Jay:
    CoderDan:
    AT:
    CoderDan:
    Pop ulus:
    No, that isn't Affirmative Action. At all. Read some Tim Wise before you make an ass out of yourself again.

    Especially since race was never mentioned, nor can it be implied or assumed by the story. Reminds me of a WTF I'll post one of these days.

    Almost certainly affirmative action. You must have no idea how sensitive US companies are about the fact that they can't interview and hire enough black candidates in technical positions. And justifiably so since there are more than a few race-mongering shakedown artists trolling for potential discrimination lawsuits based on little more than worker vs general population racial composition. The more than 100 developer interviews I've conducted over the past 14 years included exactly ONE black candidate (who I hired because he was damn good). You can put whatever explanation you want on those stats, but they make the HR departments of hyper-race conscious US companies very uneasy.

    I stand by my original statement. How many think of AA and think of women or those with disabilities? Very few! So when someone says 'affirmative action', it is almost always to imply 'that [black|hispanic] person got the job because of their color'.

    Am I wrong? In conducting 1,200+ interviews I would tend to say no. As for gender, there is a strong skewing of man vs. woman.

    So let me see if I understand this last post. You admit that the original statement that you ridiculed was, in fact, accurate. But you "stand by" your criticism on the grounds that most people wouldn't immediately realize that it was, in fact, correct. So you insist that it is correct to say someone is wrong when he is, in fact, right, as long as "most people" would (incorrectly) think he was wrong. Or something like that.

    I think if you asked the average American who was included under affirmative action, the vast majority would say "women and minorities". But even if 99% of the people don't know the right answer to a question, it's difficult to see how that makes the wrong answer right.

    LOL, no I did not admit that the original statement was accurate. Where do you get that from? I said that I stand by my argument, and that in general most people see AA as applicable to certain male minority groups.

    Look, it's no wonder you guys have so many WTF's you can't seem to RTFM and get your specs FUBAR'd.

    I am through with your ill contrived flames.

  • sheldon (unregistered) in reply to CoderDan
    CoderDan:
    Did I call anyone an ass? No
    Oh, you're right. I confused you with Pop ulus. Sorry about that.
    CoderDan:
    I responded to someone saying "Must have been affirmative action". Those weren't my words, and I took exception to the blatant statement that being unqualified must mean they are an inferior race or gender.
    I don't think the original statement says that the only unqualified people are of inferior race or gender. Of course there are a lot of unqualified white males. But if they are that obviously unqualified, then, surprisingly, they are rarely invited for an interview. So what the original statement says is that if an obviously unqualified person is nevertheless brought in for an interview, that might be an attempt to promote better representation of a minority group.
  • Kalle (unregistered) in reply to airdrik

    Neither of Visual Studio nor SQL Server Management Studio (the suite of database front-end tools) comes with a full SQL Server database - that's a completely separate install.

    TRWTF on the last one is that the interviewee required the database backend to be fully accessible before he even started throwing anything together for the web front end (and as the database was not accessible, just throw together a quick-and-easy 'backend': e.g. xml, text file, SQLite, etc. to get it working). OTOH, the interviewer should have instead pulled in one of the developers and had the interviewee write up most of the stuff on a white/black board rather than putting him on a computer and told 'go'. That way they could audit any quirks that the guy throws into his code (like having the web frontend do direct sql queries rather than calling a separate library for database access).[/quote]

    Depends how ancient history this is referring to..? Visual Studio since 2005 has included SQL Server with any mode installation (you cannot even untogle it, have to specifically uninstall it).

    Would have been worth mentioning that the tools were as ancient as VS 2003 in the story. Otherwise the SQL Server instance of .\SQLEXPRESS should have been there.

  • Kalle (unregistered) in reply to Kalle

    ... the quote in the above was "bit" broken.

    Was just meant to reply that the 3rd story should have included the database with the Visual Studio as prior commentors pointed out. The comment stating that VS does not include database is inaccurate since the VS 2005 and later versions.

  • only me (unregistered) in reply to Jay
    Jay:
    Hey, on the serious side, when a company asks you very early in the discussion how much you expect to be paid, what do you say?

    Any time I've worked with an employment agency they've always told me not to give a straight answer to that question. But I wonder. I mean, if the company expects to pay someone, whatever, $40,000 a year, and you are looking for $50,000, I'd think they'd be willing to talk to you and see if you're good enough to be worth pushing their budget. But if you wouldn't take a job for less than $100,000 and there's no way they're going to pay that much, isn't it just wasting both of your time to go through the whole interview process? Unless there's some reason to believe that they could be so impressed by your abilities that they will pay way more than they planned, or that you will be so impressed with how much fun this job sounds like that you will be willing to work for much less than you originally planned, what's the point?

    On the flip side, if they are expecting to pay $100,000 and you say you will work for $20,000 ... well, if I was the interviewer in that case, I would be wondering if you are just a great bargain for some reason -- like maybe you're living off your billionaire uncle's trust fund and so you really don't need the money or something -- or if someone willing to work for that little must really not be qualified for the job.

    I've only once had such a situation come up where I was on the hiring side: We were hiring a software tester, and someone applied who asked for half what we were willing to pay. We interviewed him and he sounded quite capable, so my boss quietly told him what number to change the expected salary before turning the form in to HR. (We ultimately hired him and he turned out to be one of the best testers we ever had.)

    But this wasn't a case of "what compensation do you want for doing job x" This was "what compensation do you want ? For doing what ? My salary ranges in accordance to my responsibilities and my tasks.
    Will I have to manage people ? If so, how many ? Will I be responsible for my own budget ? If so, how much ? And so on.

  • (cs)

    Really, why does the woman get punished for telling the truth? Also, I'm wondering why the guy is so astonished as to her response. Lots of people nowadays do exactly what the lady describes - without announcing it beforehand though.

  • Some Guy (unregistered) in reply to operagost
    operagost:
    Misuse of affirmative action often results in bringing in woefully under qualified (in this example, quite an understatement) candidates in order to satisfy a policy, usually a racial, nationality, or gender quota.
    And blatant bigotry has had a few peroblems, too.

    Still, I'm not going to complain - there's few things funnier than a bunch of racist hilbillies howling about the terrible persecution they're suffering.

    In the real world the harm caused by affirmative action is dwarfed by the harm caused by idiots, and if you take affirmative action away those idiots will just have to find another way to keep causing problems. Or, perhaps HR is staffed entirely with people so brilliant that they make Einstein look like the village idiot, and if we remvoe the obscenity of affirmative action then at last HR will be free to usher in a golden age of competence and achievement and corner offices for every developer.

  • Roger (unregistered)

    Man these comments are turning so americans! Gald to be european...

  • jack (unregistered)

    I figure life is a gift and I don’t intend on wasting it. You never know what hand you’re going to get dealt next. You learn to take life as it comes at you.

  • foo (unregistered) in reply to dnm

    Only in non Indo-European tongues and languages. Which means Dravidian languages and South India.

    Krishna cannot be and is never ever a woman's name in North India.

  • Burpy (unregistered) in reply to jack
    jack:
    I figure life is a gift and I don’t intend on wasting it. You never know what hand you’re going to get dealt next. You learn to take life as it comes at you.

    You'd better not take what comes at you when you work in IT...

  • Jay (unregistered) in reply to CoderDan
    CoderDan:
    Jay:
    CoderDan:
    For all the affirmative action nuts out there. AA only comes into play when dealing with federal contracts above a certain dollar amount. In state or municipal requirements it varies. But as a general rule, you may hire whomever you choose. If you want a government contract then yes, there *may* be some rules for AA.

    Since the job interview didn't state what type of company or contract then we can't logically assume that AA is in force. Can we?

    Umm, no. While the exact rules are different depending on just which law applies to a particular form of discrimination, in general anti-discrimination laws apply to all companies in the U.S. that have 15 or more employees.

    http://www.eeoc.gov/employers/coverage_private.cfm

    N/A - I never mentioned discrimination, but rather quota based hiring given a race, gender or disability. The comment wasn't "Ohhh must be a company of 15" - but rather, an incompetent and petulant woman - "must be affirmative action" LOL

    You guys can have your topic back.

    I'm not sure when companies are REQUIRED to specifically implement affirmative action plans -- I admit I don't have the time to research this right now -- but the fact that that particular solution to actual or potential charges of discrimination may not be required by law in a specific instance does not mean that it is not used. "http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/history/35th/milestones/1979.html" lists as one of the milestonces in equal employment opportunity for 1979, "EEOC issues Affirmative Action Guidelines providing employers information on how to undertake voluntary affirmative action." The context mentions nothing about government contracts, and in any case I've worked for companies that had affirmative action plans that did not have government contracts.

    As all but the smallest companies in the US are subject to anti-discrimination laws, many of them use AA plans to either satisfy complaints of past discrimination or as a pre-emptive defense against future charges.

    When the law says, "You must not do X", and then the agency charged with enforcing the law says "Here are procedures to insure that you are meeting the requirements of the law", that particular set of procedures may not be technically obligatory, but it is surely fair to say that people are being pressured to do it.

    To an employee who believes that he has been the subject of "reverse discrimination", or who believes that he has to do more work to make up for the lack of qualifications of someone hired under an AA program, whether that program was specifically required by law, or was chosen by the employer from a variety of options available to meet the requirements of the law, makes little difference. (Whether or not such a belief is a valid complaint is an entirely different quesiton that I don't plan to go into here.)

    If you believe this is a good law, why are you anxious to point out that it may not apply to most employers? If you believe it is a bad law, why are you trying to downplay its impact? Your position is curious.

  • Jay (unregistered) in reply to CoderDan
    CoderDan:
    The comment wasn't "Ohhh must be a company of 15" - but rather, an incompetent and petulant woman - "must be affirmative action" LOL

    An unqualified candidate was called in for an interview despite the department telling HR that they believed this person was unqualified. So people speculated as to why, and someone suggested an attempt to meet an affirmative action quota. This hardly seems unreasonable. If someone declared that there was no other possible explanation for the facts given, that would be unreasonable. But to say that because we don't have enough information to confirm this speculation that therefore it is somehow illegitimate to consider it IS unreasonable.

    If I hear about an auto accident and say, "Sounds like that driver was drunk", my speculation may or may not be correct, but it is not absurd or unfair to suggest the possibility.

    You're awfully defensive about affirmative action.

  • (cs) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    Something is missing from the 2nd one. I was expecting it to turn out that the candidate was the HR directors wife/mistress/daughter/niece/third cousin twice removed. There must be some reason the HR director was so adamant that they be interviewed.
    Or perhaps she was all of the above.
  • Henry (unregistered)

    "I get paid. If you expect me to deal with all that computer shit, I'll go off on stress leave and sue you."

    I'd be surprised if she wasn't a black woman. I've had "shit like that" happen on my watch too.

    Even worse thing is that some employers in the UK give jobs to such fools because of the "Equal Opportunities Employer" certificate.

  • Ken (unregistered) in reply to Jay

    Its more because whoever states their salary demands first loses. If you're thinking 100k and the company is thinking 120k. If you say 100k first you just lost 20k a year.

  • Duke of New York (unregistered)

    I can't be the only person who read "she flipped on us. Extending her index finger" as "she flipped us off"

  • Duke of New York (unregistered) in reply to Henry
    Henry:
    I'd be surprised if she wasn't a black woman.
    She could just as easily be a frazzled blonde with a drug habit.
  • Dan (unregistered) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    Something is missing from the 2nd one. I was expecting it to turn out that the candidate was the HR directors wife/mistress/daughter/niece/third cousin twice removed. There must be some reason the HR director was so adamant that they be interviewed.

    The HR Director was covering EEO statutes. Basically, they needed a large enough and diverse enough pool of applicants to say they were not discriminating against anyone.

    Unfortunately, this lets in candidates in who should be discriminated, as in completely unqualified for the job.

  • The Voice Of Reason (unregistered) in reply to CoderDan

    Bitch, are you retarded? It wasn't just that it was an incompetent and petulant woman, it was that it was an incompetent and petulant woman WHO HR DEMANDED BE INTERVIEWED. And why might they do that? Affirmative Action is a pretty likely answer.

    PC Idiot.

  • John D Lawyer (unregistered) in reply to Matt Westwood

    A fun book, but rather spoilt for me because it was missing around 40 pages. I couldn't work out whether it was a joke, considering the title, but it completely broke the plot.

    I've kept it, the joke appealed whether intentional or not, but never finished the story.

    CAPTCHA: abigo; an instruction to my ex girlfriend

  • John D Lawyer (unregistered) in reply to Matt Westwood
    Matt Westwood:
    operagost:
    Pop ulus:
    No, that isn't Affirmative Action. At all. Read some Tim Wise before you make an ass out of yourself again.
    Try thinking for yourself before you level personal attacks at someone you don't know, you presumptive cretin.

    Misuse of affirmative action often results in bringing in woefully under qualified (in this example, quite an understatement) candidates in order to satisfy a policy, usually a racial, nationality, or gender quota.

    Notice that we don't know whether the candidate fell into any of these categories, except possibly the last being that women are still generally under represented in IT.

    "Incompetence" by Rob Grant is an interesting riff on this social trend. A thoroughly entertaining (although marginally implausible) read.

    Ha, this is what I meant to quote, and in so doing provided another example.

  • Duke of New York (unregistered) in reply to The Voice Of Reason
    The Voice Of Reason:
    Bitch, are you retarded? It wasn't just that it was an incompetent and petulant woman, it was that it was an incompetent and petulant woman WHO HR DEMANDED BE INTERVIEWED. And why might they do that? Affirmative Action is a pretty likely answer.

    PC Idiot.

    Why don't you go burn a cross about it

  • Surt (unregistered) in reply to Jay
    Jay:
    Hey, on the serious side, when a company asks you very early in the discussion how much you expect to be paid, what do you say?

    Any time I've worked with an employment agency they've always told me not to give a straight answer to that question. But I wonder. I mean, if the company expects to pay someone, whatever, $40,000 a year, and you are looking for $50,000, I'd think they'd be willing to talk to you and see if you're good enough to be worth pushing their budget. But if you wouldn't take a job for less than $100,000 and there's no way they're going to pay that much, isn't it just wasting both of your time to go through the whole interview process? Unless there's some reason to believe that they could be so impressed by your abilities that they will pay way more than they planned, or that you will be so impressed with how much fun this job sounds like that you will be willing to work for much less than you originally planned, what's the point?

    On the flip side, if they are expecting to pay $100,000 and you say you will work for $20,000 ... well, if I was the interviewer in that case, I would be wondering if you are just a great bargain for some reason -- like maybe you're living off your billionaire uncle's trust fund and so you really don't need the money or something -- or if someone willing to work for that little must really not be qualified for the job.

    I've only once had such a situation come up where I was on the hiring side: We were hiring a software tester, and someone applied who asked for half what we were willing to pay. We interviewed him and he sounded quite capable, so my boss quietly told him what number to change the expected salary before turning the form in to HR. (We ultimately hired him and he turned out to be one of the best testers we ever had.)

    I usually try to get salary expectation out of the way before the interview. Maybe because I'm on the high side, and I've had a couple of interviews now where the offer came in lower than my current pay, and I had to explain that I wasn't even going to consider their offer at less than 50% more. Recruiters will tell you anything to get you in the interview room, make sure you get your pay number from the hiring company (live and learn).

  • Mariusz (unregistered)

    I am actually working in the company as from the last article. I am single developer in a hospitality based corporation.

    This kind of scenario has definitely upsides.

    1. Nobody knows what you are doing. (finished product counts only)
    2. Nobody knows how long a task will take.
    3. Nobody tells you how to do your work.

    Obviously you don't have anyone to talk to and you need to keep your skills up to date using web, courses etc.

    I like it anyway.

  • anon (unregistered) in reply to Sabre

    Sabre, he actually was given specifications...

    "so let's say I wanted a site with a menu on it, but I wanted to be able to define that menu any way I wanted to, redefine it on the fly, with as many sub-menu headers that I want —"

    This is what I usually got for specifications at my last job.

  • anon (unregistered) in reply to Roger
    Roger:
    Man these comments are turning so americans! Gald to be european...

    Roger,

    I doubt most Europeans would think very highly of your butchery of the English language. I'm proud to be American.

  • Some Guy (unregistered) in reply to vt_mruhlin

    he said the sysadmin didn't let him install anything.

  • Prashant (unregistered) in reply to Peter

    There are two names, Kṛṣṇa and Kṛṣṇā, both of which could be spelled "Krishna" in ASCII. The first is a mythical incarnation of the god Vishnu (male), and the second is a female (mortal) character in the epic Mahābhārata, better known by her alternate name, Draupadī.

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