• (cs) in reply to The Mr. T Experience
    The Mr. T Experience:
    All you nerds are a bunch of jerkoffs, and you deserve every punch you've ever received.
    Oh boy! Yet another TDWTF-trollmeme! I can't wait to read this same comment tomorrow!
  • (cs) in reply to boog
    boog:
    C-Octothorpe:
    The Mr. T Experience:
    BTW-I'll punch a fat guy too.
    Sounds like fun. Lets start with your mom.
    Hahaha!

    Normally I don't care much about the "your mom" jokes, but calling his mom a fat guy: +1

    Thanks! I was kind of disheartened when Mr. Toughguy told me he didn't like it.

  • Nagesh (unregistered) in reply to Nagesh
    Nagesh:
    Nagesh:
    Nagesh:
    geoffrey:
    Hell is paved with good intentions.
    I am thinking "road to hell is paved with good intentions." Lukily, we Hindu get multiple incarnashians rether than Pope-folowers.

    Pope is incarnation of Vishnu only, asshat. And stop to be using my name.

    That what was previas Pope?

    Incarnation of vishnu is not to be taking form for anuther 2,000 years.

    Previous Pope is also avatar of Vishnu, jerknoodle. Do you think you are the one to tell Vishnu when or how to appear on earth? Perhaps you are even Vishnu himself? This would explain why you feel you may usurp my good name!

  • (cs)

    The only thing worse than a troll is the FUCKING IDIOT (like C-Octothorpe) who continually responds to it.

  • Like Whoa Dude (unregistered)

    This place is getting weird. I'd imagine reading these comments would seem like some kind of trip to newcomers.

  • The Mr. T Experience (unregistered) in reply to Zylon
    Zylon:
    The only thing worse than a troll is the FUCKING IDIOT (like C-Octothorpe) who continually responds to it.
    So your at least better than C-Octomom, right?
  • Nagesh (unregistered) in reply to Nagesh
    Nagesh:
    Nagesh:
    Nagesh:
    Nagesh:
    geoffrey:
    Hell is paved with good intentions.
    I am thinking "road to hell is paved with good intentions." Lukily, we Hindu get multiple incarnashians rether than Pope-folowers.

    Pope is incarnation of Vishnu only, asshat. And stop to be using my name.

    That what was previas Pope?

    Incarnation of vishnu is not to be taking form for anuther 2,000 years.

    Previous Pope is also avatar of Vishnu, jerknoodle. Do you think you are the one to tell Vishnu when or how to appear on earth? Perhaps you are even Vishnu himself? This would explain why you feel you may usurp my good name!

    Than perhaps u can be explaning how they both are being alive at seme times? Mintal mijit!

  • Dr.Evil (unregistered)

    All these pages of comments, and still no clear winner. Props to geoffery for bowing out gracefully and allowing the embers to continue smoldering in his absence. You know you have been trolled effectively when the troll leaves and the war continues.

    And Mr. T... bad troll, no donut.

  • (cs) in reply to Dr.Evil
    Dr.Evil:
    All these pages of comments, and still no clear winner. Props to geoffery for bowing out gracefully and allowing the embers to continue smoldering in his absence. You know you have been trolled effectively when the troll leaves and the war continues.

    And Mr. T... bad troll, no donut.

    I can stop anytime I want, really!

    hands trembling

  • Nagesh (unregistered) in reply to Nagesh
    Nagesh:
    Nagesh:
    Nagesh:
    Nagesh:
    Nagesh:
    geoffrey:
    Hell is paved with good intentions.
    I am thinking "road to hell is paved with good intentions." Lukily, we Hindu get multiple incarnashians rether than Pope-folowers.

    Pope is incarnation of Vishnu only, asshat. And stop to be using my name.

    That what was previas Pope?

    Incarnation of vishnu is not to be taking form for anuther 2,000 years.

    Previous Pope is also avatar of Vishnu, jerknoodle. Do you think you are the one to tell Vishnu when or how to appear on earth? Perhaps you are even Vishnu himself? This would explain why you feel you may usurp my good name!

    Than perhaps u can be explaning how they both are being alive at seme times? Mintal mijit!

    Perhaps u r thinking that Vishnu is bound by ur conception of space and time? Murkha! Is Vishnu, is not Bloody Martin Smith from Kolkata!

  • knight2k (unregistered) in reply to geoffrey
    geoffrey:
    boog:
    geoffrey:
    ...it's far better to hold off and wait for management to deal with the situation then cancel a job you know nothing about which could potentially bring down the entire company. Hell is paved with good intentions.
    Bullshit. Say, let's all stop calling it "a job you know nothing about", shall we?
    1. The job was only a few bytes.
    2. It had been running for almost an hour.
    3. It hadn't started printing yet.
    4. It was holding up everyone else.

    On any normal print server, this would be an error state. And if cancelling a tiny blocking long-running non-printing print job could potentially bring down the entire company, you've really got bigger issues.

    Let me throw a curve ball at you. What if the job readout was in error and the job was actually 50 megabytes of important company report - a report which management urgently needs to close the quarter?

    Try explaining why there will be mass redundancies to your coworkers standing round the printer next week.

    I've been in IT for 16 years and I have never seen a job readout in error. That is Windows, linux, SunOS and AiX. Regardless, as others have said, you do NOT put a critical printout on a shared printer. You would print that mythical 50MB job in the CFO's office on his private printer or in accounting on their private printer or anywhere else than a shared hallway printer.

    There does not exist a scenario where ANY print job should take 2 days unless you are printing out the Library of Congress. Print Queues get hung all the time. It is standard procedure for anyone to kill the queue, but many users do not know how.

    If the job has not started it does not matter what it was printing or how important it was. Nothing was lost since it never started. You kill the job and you restart it. Even a 50mb file does not spool for days or even hours.

  • Corkscrew (unregistered)

    s/pendants/pedants

  • The Mr. T Experience (unregistered) in reply to Dr.Evil
    Dr.Evil:
    All these pages of comments, and still no clear winner. Props to geoffery for bowing out gracefully and allowing the embers to continue smoldering in his absence. You know you have been trolled effectively when the troll leaves and the war continues.

    And Mr. T... bad troll, no donut.

    I'll shove that doughnut straight up your taint.

  • (cs) in reply to The Mr. T Experience
    The Mr. T Experience:
    Dr.Evil:
    All these pages of comments, and still no clear winner. Props to geoffery for bowing out gracefully and allowing the embers to continue smoldering in his absence. You know you have been trolled effectively when the troll leaves and the war continues.

    And Mr. T... bad troll, no donut.

    I'll shove that doughnut straight up your taint.

    But there isn't a donut. Your not to smart, are you?

  • forgottenlord (unregistered) in reply to geoffrey
    geoffrey:
    centurijon:
    geoffrey:
    evilspoons:
    geoffrey:
    Surely the real problem here is that this guy just figured he could cancel someone's job without bothering to discover the nature of that job or its priority. That's much like someone coming along and disconnecting your terminal while you work. I believe that kind of behaviour should result in you being marched from the building. There is a reason why everyone else was hesitant around the printer - they knew cancelling the job was wrong.

    If anyone should be marching down to HR it should be the guy whose job was cancelled without warning. Oh you can add ignoring warning signs to the charges too.

    Seriously? The printer isn't FOR running computational jobs, it's for printing. There's a reasonable expectation of availablility for a resource like that. If it's sitting for hours doing nothing, you can safely assume it's broken because no pages are being printed by a device whose sole purpose is to make pages have toner on them.

    You are absolutely correct, I agree with you. We have the benefit of understanding the situation however, the guy who just cancelled the job did not.

    An unnamed person had submitted a job to the internal reader. You don't just cancel it unless you know it's purpose and it's priority. you just don't. In this case the guy who submitted the job was in the wrong it turns out, but the ends do not justify the means. "Bob" was equally in the wrong here for acting like a maverick and just pulling the switch. In certain situations that might result in disciplinary action. Notice that his co-workers understood this which is why they didn't take any action themselves.

    There are times when you need a maverick, or at least someone to take initiative in a poor situation.

    Having a line of people waiting for a print queue (like sheep) is completely unacceptable - especially if the non-print job is expected to take two days to run. The article stated that he tried to find the person responsible for the print job and that person was missing. In that situation I would not have even hesitated to cancel the job either.

    Sharing is caring, and number crunching on a printer is stupid.

    I disagree, it's far better to hold off and wait for management to deal with the situation then cancel a job you know nothing about which could potentially bring down the entire company. Hell is paved with good intentions.

    Any job that looks like a few bytes big that is taking much longer to print that should be deemed possible that is capable of taking down the entire company if killed should not be run on a shared resource. And if the company feels that the person who was using said shared resource without being given sufficient approval to effectively take the resource offline and properly inform staff that such resource was being taken offline deserves to fail.

    For that matter, anything that comes close to having a significant impact on the company that requires a shared resource to be dedicated to it for multiple days preventing other individuals from using said shared resource should be approved by management and passed on to everyone else.

    The reality is that if you've got a giant queue waiting for said shared resource to be available for 3 days and are unaware, at the very least, that it won't be, then you have a serious problem.

    If it's a huge print job and it's taking a while - that's one thing. That's not what was happening here. The normal operation of the printer has clearly been interrupted and under normal circumstances, any reasonable individual would assume that the printer's normal operation has been violated and need to be corrected first.

    Oh - and there's absolutely no way that the cost of buying the guy his own printer is outweighed by the cost of having that many people standing in line unable to do anything for 4 days. It's unlikely his numbers are worth that much either.

  • (cs) in reply to Zylon
    Zylon:
    The only thing worse than a troll is the FUCKING IDIOT (like C-Octothorpe) who continually responds to it.
    Meh, nothing other than vitriol ever comes from your cake-eater. Go fuck a dog.
  • That Guy (unregistered) in reply to geoffrey

    You're not allowed to pull that excuse two articles in a row right after multiple people call you out on your bullshit.

  • The Mr. T Experience (unregistered) in reply to trtrwtf
    trtrwtf:
    The Mr. T Experience:
    Dr.Evil:
    All these pages of comments, and still no clear winner. Props to geoffery for bowing out gracefully and allowing the embers to continue smoldering in his absence. You know you have been trolled effectively when the troll leaves and the war continues.

    And Mr. T... bad troll, no donut.

    I'll shove that doughnut straight up your taint.

    But there isn't a donut. Your not to smart, are you?

    Your going to respond to an obvious put-on and talk about smarts in the same breath? Dolt. :p

  • Nagesh (unregistered) in reply to That Guy
    That Guy:
    You're not allowed to pull that excuse two articles in a row right after multiple people call you out on your bullshit.
    Someting tel me knew meme is being formed.
  • Mental Help (unregistered)

    It appears some posters should seek help from professionals who can diagnose mental illnesses those posters have been picking up or developing over time. Living your life in a negative way, even temporarily on the internet, can have serious negative consequences on your quality of life.

    http://www.cracked.com/article_17522_6-new-personality-disorders-caused-by-internet.html

  • (cs) in reply to Nagesh
    Nagesh:
    That Guy:
    You're not allowed to pull that excuse two articles in a row right after multiple people call you out on your bullshit.
    Someting tel me knew meme is being formed.
    I thought memes are supposed to be funny?

    Wait, isn't asking this question a meme? Oh shit, I think I just heard space-time start to tear itself apart (not as loud as I thought it would be).

  • John Evans (unregistered)

    "You fool! The print server isn't running my numbers. The PRINTER is! It's far more powerful than you can imagine!"

    Is anyone else picturing Emperor Palpatine?

  • appellatio (unregistered) in reply to Steve The Cynic
    Steve The Cynic:
    Oh, yeah, and:
    1. How on earth is a virtual printer going to help numbers-boy? Allegedly nothing in the department except the real printer has enough compute power. The virtual printer is, presumably, not on the real printer, so won't benefit from the compute power of the real printer rather than the admittedly feeble print server...

    I smell a fictionalisation error. (It smells like a herring that's been left out on the kitchen counter for a week, by the way.)

    His job running on the printer had nothing to do with printer's CPU. Unless all computers in the building are from 1992 and the printer was from 2011, there is no printer in the world coming from the same age as computers around it that can do anything faster then any of those computers.

    The truth is that that fat dick somehow learned how to send a computation job to a printer, and he didn't know how else to do it. Those kind of pricks actually think they are amazing programmers for coming up with such an idea, while even Excel could do what they wanted. I bet his code was unnecessarily under-performing, too - again, cause he didn't know better.

    Reminds me of a guy who I worked with once. He jumped all excited cause he figured out how to change a background color of a web page. Yes, this was a longer time ago (e.g. 2004), but still; dude... That's the type of dumbass this guy, what's-his-name (not Bob) probably is...

  • trtrwtf (unregistered) in reply to Mental Help
    Mental Help:
    It appears some posters should seek help from professionals who can diagnose mental illnesses those posters have been picking up or developing over time. Living your life in a negative way, even temporarily on the internet, can have serious negative consequences on your quality of life.
    Grammatically, that sentence is a disaster. Please try again.
  • (cs) in reply to C-Octothorpe
    C-Octothorpe:
    Meh, nothing other than vitriol ever comes from your cake-eater.
    And yet, you're a troll-feeding attention-whoring sub-scum who actively contributes to the sheer awfulness of these forums. You could get flattened by a city bus tomorrow, and not only would your absence go unmourned, the universe would be a better place for it.
  • (cs) in reply to Zylon
    Zylon:
    C-Octothorpe:
    Meh, nothing other than vitriol ever comes from your cake-eater.
    And yet, you're a troll-feeding attention-whoring sub-scum who actively contributes to the sheer awfulness of these forums. You could get flattened by a city bus tomorrow, and not only would your absence go unmourned, the universe would be a better place for it.
    That made me feel warm inside... :)

    Also, thanks for proving my point.

  • HP PhaserJet (unregistered) in reply to Like Whoa Dude
    Like Whoa Dude:
    This place is getting weird. I'd imagine reading these comments would seem like some kind of trip to newcomers.
    Website is a collection of the stories that tell us just what it means to have lived, for once, and for all, in a world where the simian overlords are left without their easy-to-hold chains over our very hearts...

    and minds...

    and souls...

    and hands...

    and the lashes over our back...

    and the yokes over our shoulders...

    hateful, all of it. But the great, big ball a fire in the sky will always smile on us, no matter who or how or where or when or why or what we are.

  • William S. Sessions (unregistered) in reply to HP PhaserJet
    HP PhaserJet:
    Like Whoa Dude:
    This place is getting weird. I'd imagine reading these comments would seem like some kind of trip to newcomers.
    Website is a collection of the stories that tell us just what it means to have lived, for once, and for all, in a world where the simian overlords are left without their easy-to-hold chains over our very hearts...

    and minds...

    and souls...

    and hands...

    and the lashes over our back...

    and the yokes over our shoulders...

    hateful, all of it. But the great, big ball a fire in the sky will always smile on us, no matter who or how or where or when or why or what we are.

    Winners don't do drugs.

  • (cs) in reply to Zylon
    Zylon:
    C-Octothorpe:
    Meh, nothing other than vitriol ever comes from your cake-eater.
    And yet, you're a troll-feeding attention-whoring sub-scum who actively contributes to the sheer awfulness of these forums. You could get flattened by a city bus tomorrow, and not only would your absence go unmourned, the universe would be a better place for it.
    C-Octomatopoeia may be a troll-feeding attention-whoring sub-scum, but at least he's funny. And I'll take funny over hopeless whining any day.
  • (cs) in reply to C-Octothorpe
    C-Octothorpe:
    Abso:
    C-Octothorpe:
    redblacktree:
    FTFM
    Isn't it traditional to pretend that your sockpuppets are different people?
    Sorry, I don't follow...

    I was simply stating that, in my opinion, geoffrey wasn't admitting defeat and instead executed a successful trolling. If redblacktree thought something else I am not one to tell him what he meant. He meant what he said, which is why I fixed it for myself, not for him...

    Capeesh?! :)

    Ah, ok. That makes sense. I'm used to seeing folks use "FTFM" only on their own posts, and "FTFY" on others' posts even when they mean "changed what you said to what I would have said."

  • (cs)

    TRWTF is that nobody thought of creating a time-sharing system for the printer so that it could work as both a mainframe and a printer. If they had, the company could have made money patenting it, and the don't-kill-my-job guy could have gone down in history as the inventor of GPGPU.

  • (cs) in reply to Corkscrew
    Corkscrew:
    s/pendants/pedants
    I assumed that was the joke.
  • Herby (unregistered)

    I would have done what any normal person would have: Power cycle the printer. It removed all evidence of the "problem" and all evidence that I was the one who "fixed" it.

    Repeat as necessary.

    ObPrinters: Yes, the printer can be a powerful processor, but when you add a Postscript interpreter, the execution DOES slow down. Go back to your excel spreadsheet!

  • Chris (unregistered) in reply to geoffrey

    seriously? as an admin, I'd have that guy explain the misuse of a critical shared resource, have him reprimanded for he abuse of the colleagues, and wasting their time (and company money), have the he dish out a written warning for bfeeach of policy, after killing his job, and after the second breach, have his print rights revoked. removal of equipment would amount to sabotage, and an automatic pink slip for the guy at this stage. if he needs running numbers for that long, that late, preventing others from doing their job, then its just extremely bad planning, and you would question the abilities anyway.

  • (cs) in reply to The Mr. T Experience
    The Mr. T Experience:
    Matt Westwood:
    The Mr. T Experience:
    trtrwtf:
    The Mr. T Experience:
    All you nerds are a bunch of jerkoffs, and you deserve every punch you've ever received.

    Grammatically, that sentence is a disaster. Please try again.

    See what I mean? I just can imagine your nerdy expression on your smug nerd face, teetering over your stupid noodle neck.

    Who wouldn't punch this?

    Come on then fuckface, want to have a go? Think you're hard enough? You silly little wanker, just fuck off.

    So some pommie bastid thinks he's tough, does he? Typical. Every Brit is a brawler as long as he's in Britain.

    Stupid shithead can't even spell "bastard". Piss on you.

  • (cs) in reply to C-Octothorpe
    C-Octothorpe:
    Dr.Evil:
    All these pages of comments, and still no clear winner. Props to geoffery for bowing out gracefully and allowing the embers to continue smoldering in his absence. You know you have been trolled effectively when the troll leaves and the war continues.

    And Mr. T... bad troll, no donut.

    I can stop anytime I want, really!

    hands trembling

    Naah, leave him to me, he's breakfast.

  • Bob (not the same Bob) (unregistered)

    Are you kidding me? The second time he pulled that crap I would have cancelled the print job and nuked his rights to the printer.

    What's he going to do? Complain to his boss that he can't use the printer as his personal mainframe?

  • B-dogg (unregistered) in reply to geoffrey
    Do Not Kill Job

    No one killed him, he died of pancreatic cancer. How insensitive.

  • Not Frist (unregistered)

    Can't we all just get along? Sniff. Seriously though, what a great WTF. The guy saying that the 'print' job should not have been canceled is clearly a fucking idiot. If that guys wants to respond to me, don't. I don't argue with children. BTW, fuck you idiot. That is all.

  • kek (unregistered) in reply to geoffrey

    Ok. Then I get to throw one at you. At your head. From a gun. And instead of a ball, it's an egg. Except the egg is a live grenade. You're a contrarian moron

  • Oddball (unregistered)

    The first PostScript printers were quite powerful computers, as rendering the PostScript language was not the easiest thing to do with '80 technology.

    But, I would personally like to have results for those huge calculations in digital form instead of paper.

    "Hmm, the left margin should be a bit wider..." (Re-printing...)

  • Oddball (unregistered)

    Imagine sending an article to a science journal:

    "As the following image from the simulation proves: [simulation written in PostScript that takes 2 years to run]"

  • Smitty (unregistered) in reply to redblacktree
    redblacktree:
    geoffrey:
    I am tired so lets agree to disagree for now and leave it at that

    Translation: I now realize that I took a ridiculous position, and I can no longer defend it. However, my ego is much too large to admit defeat, so I will instead unilaterally declare a "draw."

    Don't get me wrong, I agree that geoofery was a tool or a troll at least, but is everything on forums about winning or losing? People express their opinion, and other people yell them down (we all do sometimes), but maybe geoffery really is tired. More to the point, I'm not sure having a go at him added anything useful one way or another...

  • Shea (unregistered)

    I'd have created a ghostscript on the print server that deleted any job that had been running longer than an hour, as a scheduled task on an account he didn't have access to.

    "Did you delete my job?"

    "No."

    End of story.

    This is the worst kind of resource dictator, and then to presume you know more than others while causing appreciable harm to their workflow is cause for dismissal.

    If you don't have the resources to do your job on your computer you're either doing it wrong, or you need to requisition proper hardware or coding techniques. There IS a way, but this is not it.

  • Just Some Guy (unregistered) in reply to geoffrey
    geoffrey:
    Surely the real problem here is that this guy just figured he could cancel someone's job without bothering to discover the nature of that job or its priority.

    Hell, I'd go back and check the printer every hour or so just to kill the effin job again and write Skroo U on the stupid note.

  • Mark (unregistered)

    Frist

    This comment was added by a ps printer....

  • (cs) in reply to D Martensson
    D Martensson:
    If a car has broken breaks you do not glue the door lock, you put a note up warning about the broken breaks ;)

    If the breaks are broken, does that mean the car is fine?

  • random person (unregistered)

    For postscript running on a printer, I had a printer when (with 8MB of RAM in it) would do an OK Sierpinski triangle, but would choke if I turned up the # of points to high. Couple weeks later I had increased the RAM to 72 MB (8MB built in + 64 MB stick). Spent about 30 minutes and spat out this nicer triangle that it couldn't before. (Printer was a HP 1200. Parallel & USB, both PCL and PS, ~$300 when I got it in summer 2002. OK printer for the amount of paper I needed to print when at college)

    What does this have to do with the story? Not much. Look up Sierpinski triangle postscript on Google and you can find some interesting postscript programs out there. Towers of Hanoi also have some interesting postscript programs(although they just seem to use the error lines for the user output and nothing gets "printed" although I'm sure there must be some version which prints out each step). Using ghostscript you can save printer time and paper though.

  • Digger (unregistered)

    I can't think of any important prints they might have.

    Can't they just freaking wait UNTIL FRIDAY?

  • (cs) in reply to geoffrey
    geoffrey:
    Hell is paved with good intentions.
    Translation: good intentions alone aren't worth spit - they need to be backed up with deeds to count for anything.

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