• John Carter (unregistered)

    Well, to be honest, I didn't read beyond the first <cfif>. I mean, everyone knows, that ColdFusion is the real wtf here, right?

  • boog (unregistered) in reply to LB
    LB:
    boog:
    Unfortunately for the vet, Fluffy's owner is a total dingbat, so about all the vet can do is keep testing for things until she finds something she can actually treat.
    Don't you mean unfortunately for Fluffy? It's not the poor cat's fault that her owner can't articulate the symptoms properly.
    Yes, unfortunately for Fluffy as well; she is the one who will be poked and prodded and tested. But I do still feel sorry for the vet, who's forced to solve a problem without any idea what's wrong or if there even is a problem to begin with.

    Relating back to IT, consider how frustrating it is when the user/customer insists that something is broken, but just can't/won't tell you what's broken, how they got the error, or what the error message was.

  • Spike (unregistered) in reply to SirCharles
    SirCharles:
    Isn't this just a zero-indexing / one-indexing issue?

    It's so obvious that it didn't occur to me until i read your comment. This must be what happened, our 'problem solver' knows nothing about code, so he assumed all index start at one!

  • LB (unregistered) in reply to Matt Westwood
    Matt Westwood:
    The doctor / SW troubleshooter can not be held responsible for the stupidity of the patient / user.
    Well, if you change that "can not be held responsible" to "should not be held responsible", then you might have a valid point, but for doctors and software troubleshooters alike, other people's stupidity all to often becomes their problem.
  • LB (unregistered) in reply to Coyne
    Coyne:
    At least the new intern recognized a bad approach and looked for a better one (rather than layering on yet more irrelevant code). The new intern is a keeper.
    And there's the company's payoff for hiring interns. It provides a cheap way to try out potential new employees. Once these two interns graduate, the company will know which one to offer a permanent job to.
  • Anonymously Yours (unregistered) in reply to Spike
    Spike:
    SirCharles:
    Isn't this just a zero-indexing / one-indexing issue?

    It's so obvious that it didn't occur to me until i read your comment. This must be what happened, our 'problem solver' knows nothing about code, so he assumed all index start at one!

    I don't know of any index in ColdFusion that starts at 0. ColdFusion functions are actually pretty uniform; a return value of 0 from a search function is the standard to indicate that whatever it was you were looking for doesn't exist. All of the string manipulation functions follow this notion as well.

  • Akash (unregistered)

    I will better code myself rather than cleaning someone else's shit. BTW, you can't get away with these kinda colleagues, we have a guy like this in our office and have to live with it...

    BR, Akash Agrawal http://tech-queries.blogspot.com/

  • Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to Spike
    Spike:
    SirCharles:
    Isn't this just a zero-indexing / one-indexing issue?

    It's so obvious that it didn't occur to me until i read your comment. This must be what happened, our 'problem solver' knows nothing about code, so he assumed all index start at one!

    Nice theory, the only problem is that indexes actually do start at 1 in ColdFusion.

  • anonymous (unregistered) in reply to John Carter
    John Carter:
    Well, to be honest, I didn't read beyond the first <cfif>. I mean, everyone knows, that ColdFusion is the real wtf here, right?

    Ya know. I'm so tired of hearing "CF aint real" "CF sucks" or when someone hears "Coldfusion" they guffaw and guffaw.

    If it's such a dicky language, than why aren't there any cheap CF programmers? They all command $50 an hour and more, and THAT's a discount! More often than not they want $85-$125 an hour.

    Feck.

    If it's so easy, there should be more $10 an hour programmers.

  • Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to anonymous
    anonymous:
    John Carter:
    Well, to be honest, I didn't read beyond the first <cfif>. I mean, everyone knows, that ColdFusion is the real wtf here, right?

    Ya know. I'm so tired of hearing "CF aint real" "CF sucks" or when someone hears "Coldfusion" they guffaw and guffaw.

    If it's such a dicky language, than why aren't there any cheap CF programmers? They all command $50 an hour and more, and THAT's a discount! More often than not they want $85-$125 an hour.

    Feck.

    If it's so easy, there should be more $10 an hour programmers.

    They're expensive because they're rare. They're rare because ColdFusion is a pile of shite that nobody in their right mind would use for commercial purposes.

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to frits
    frits:
    Anon:
    Cbuttius:
    For Americans out there, are there any two cities in the USA that have the same name other than the first letter?

    I was wondering the same thing. Can't think of any, but I'm sure there must be somewhere.

    Kannapolis NC and Annapolis MD (kind of) Also, Bennsville MD and Pennsville NJ

    Addendum (2010-10-05 13:08): One more:

    Reston, VA Weston, FL

    I tip my hat to your superior knowledge of US geography.

  • ben (unregistered) in reply to anonymous
    John Carter:
    Well, to If it's so easy, there should be more $10 an hour programmers.

    It's not that CF is particularly easy, per se. It's that CF is a festering, hideous, unusable pile of shite built on top of shite. It's expensive to hire people to code in it because the only people with experience are desperate to get out and work in something more sane, like MUMPS or Intercal.

  • theunknownsleeper (unregistered)

    ...Later Stefan took an IT job in Chitville, Indiana designing a website for a local news and weather station. Launch day was epic.

    Captcha: letatio = head of lettuce

  • IANAD (unregistered) in reply to nwbrown
    nwbrown:
    So if someone presents you with a fever your solution is to dunk them in ice water?

    If the fever is high enough - yes.

  • nah (unregistered) in reply to nwbrown
    nwbrown:
    So if someone presents you with a fever your solution is to dunk them in ice water?

    Yes. If the fever is severe enough to cause damage while I'm looking for the root cause.

    And FYI kids can get a fever high enough to get hallucinations and cramps without the cause being more than "one of those bugs that go around". The correct action is to cool them down (preferably before they get hot enough to need ice water), give something that suprecces the fever (paracetamol) and keep them comfertable until their immune system takes care of the infection.

  • Arvind (unregistered)

    RWTF is that the mentor obeys the intern. Wait there's more.

    The intern messes up his code. (OK, happens) The mentor offers to help. (Fine, normal) The intern REFUSES to accept the advice! (Huh?) The mentor does NOTHING. (???) and here's the best part .. The mentor then hires ANOTHER intern to fix the previous intern's mess (!!!)

    The mentor should have been immediately fired.

  • LB (unregistered) in reply to Arvind
    Arvind:
    RWTF is that the mentor obeys the intern. Wait there's more.

    The intern messes up his code. (OK, happens) The mentor offers to help. (Fine, normal)

    The intern REFUSES to accept the advice! (Huh?)
    This just means the intern is a conceited idiot. Unfortunately, that too happens.
    The mentor does NOTHING. (???)
    We don't really know whether he did anything or not. Maybe whatever he tried, he just wasn't able to get through to the idiot intern.
    and here's the best part .. The mentor then hires ANOTHER intern to fix the previous intern's mess (!!!)
    So after trying one intern who didn't work out, should he have just given up on everybody? That seems overly cynical, especially since it turns out he was right to give someone else a chance. The second intern was worth finding.

  • Akash (unregistered)

    Hilarious post linked it to a relevant post from here http://t.co/js2XC4u

  • Peter (unregistered)

    someone who think him/herself is too good to code usually is a poor low skilled programmer

  • Bosshog (unregistered)

    This guy was an intern, but had "younger days".... WTF? What, did he rave when he was 12?

  • John N (unregistered) in reply to Rick

    the word that immediately springs to mind is more like 'dohgrammer' [or maybe 'Doh!grammer' ]

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