• (disco) in reply to accalia

    Alright, purple for light backgrounds, pink for black backgrounds.

  • (disco) in reply to Tsaukpaetra

    that can work, i tend to switch to lavender for dark backgrounds personally just to keep the coulor theme and aide recognition.

    but pink on dark background also works

  • (disco) in reply to accalia

    Alright! Now that we have testing conditions, I will unleash the experiment on all who email me!

    [27.19 seconds later] Okay okay, TIL people won't ever respond to your email message unless it's unbearably unfashionable? Barely got out of the Outbox when I got an email from the VP saying that stationary is not approved. Glad he knows the word "stationary", but this is not that...

  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK
    RaceProUK:
    Red is an aggressive colour; like @Tsaukpaetra said, blue would be better.

    Green was apparently reserved for the head of MI6 to write on memos. So a VP could reasonably object to that.

    It was also the favourite colour ink for letters by the sanity challenged. I didn't believe this when I was first told it, but my psychology supervisor filed all the weird letters he got after he did a radio series on modern psychology, and sure enough a high percentage were in green ink. Including the one from the guy who said he had an infinite IQ because, owing to his prescience, he could answer all the questions in an IQ test before actually seeing it. So please would someone come and get him out of this place where he was being locked up, supposedly for his own safety.

  • (disco) in reply to operagost

    Continuing the discussion from Enlisted:

    operagost:
    You don't even need a signed charter. Who doesn't send email followups to meetings? I do this for internal and external clients. Reason number 1: forgetful people who don't take notes. Secret reason #0: backstabbing, capricious, incompetent people.

    I make a point of casually announcing, at the end of every meeting in which I have a key stake in what goes on, that I am going to send an email documenting what was discussed, and then in a cordial and conversational voice that the people actioned in that email will be expected to provide what it was they were actioned with.

    Then I send that email with a request that if anyone disagrees with anything in that email in that it did not accurately reflect what was discussed in the meeting, they were to reply.

    What I do not tell them is that the email I am about to send has slanted the truth towards a work package that is favourable towards my own preferred journey through life. Of course, nobody actually does challenge the material in the email posted, so I get to slope my shoulders to a considerable extent, and I get to redirect a great deal of unwanted work off on someone else, who (because they haven't challenged the contents of the email) can't later then declare "I never agreed to do that!" and by this time it's far too late for anyone to remember what was actually said in that meeting.

    Because, get this, because nobody actually bothers to read their emails. See? Stupidity is your friend.

  • (disco) in reply to kupfernigk
    kupfernigk:
    Green was apparently reserved for the head of MI6 to write on memos.
    I don't think it's reserved as much, more it's tradition, ever since the first head of MI6 Sir Mansfield Cumming decided to sign what he needed to sign with a 'c' in green ink.
  • (disco) in reply to kupfernigk
    kupfernigk:
    What the CCB doesn't want is for the new person to start fixing line of business problems, and doing it quickly
    Sadly, actually *fixing* things is often a CLM for managers, as it means either, a) the project they are on comes to an end now that things are working, or b) they get moved into an unfamiliar project with the expectation of pulling off miracles. Far too often in the real world, obstructionist bullshit is actually an effective survival strategy, regardless of whether the boss in question is competency-challenged or not.
  • (disco) in reply to Matt_Westwood

    Unfortunately HR is just as likely to have you let go, because you're the one rocking the boat.

  • (disco) in reply to kupfernigk
    kupfernigk:
    It was also the favourite colour ink for letters by the sanity challenged.

    CBA to check for :hanzo: but I know we talked about that here during the...incident...when @pjh CSSed our friend the rat.

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    the...incident...when @pjh CSSed our friend the rat.

    Ah, yes. I never saw the green due to time zones; it had been reverted by the time I got online. But I remember the fallout; boy, was he pissed.

  • (disco) in reply to HardwareGeek
    HardwareGeek:
    But I remember the fallout; boy, was he pissed.

    Probably deservedly so, but it was still funny.

  • (disco) in reply to beginner_
    beginner_:
    Never work under women. Unless you are a masochist.

    :trolleybus:

    Nothing good can come of any reply.

  • (disco) in reply to EatenByAGrue
    EatenByAGrue:
    Also, if you quit, you have a much harder time suing for wrongful termination in situations where that applies (which, alas, does not include this one).

    Constructive dismissal is a thing where I live. You don't have to fire someone to be sued for wrongful termination. Treat them like shit until they quit and sue you.

  • (disco) in reply to Matt_Westwood
    Matt_Westwood:
    If she continues to treat you like one of her misbehaving offspring

    That's a terrible way to treat kids, let alone full-grown adults.

  • (disco)

    Tony soon found himself working 15–16 hours a day, 6–8 days a week, trying to meet the deadline and keep his job.

    TRWTF. Who responds to unreasonable requrests from their boss in such a way? I tell my boss what I can and can't get done by the deadline. I don't kill myself trying to meet unrealistic expectations and I certainly don't put up with grown adults yelling at me.

    If I'm fired it will be without cause and I'll get richpaid for my time while finding a new job.

    No job is worth being treated like that.

  • (disco) in reply to Matt_Westwood
    Matt_Westwood:
    The first meeting where the boss shouts at you angrily, for whatever reason at all, you request a private meeting with your boss, in which you state calmly and in a dignified manner that you are unused to being spoken to in such an unprofessional manner. You request an apology.

    If she continues to treat you like one of her misbehaving offspring, you request a meeting with HR and her superior in which you express your grievances.

    Escalating to boss +1 or HR won't work if the boss is the owner, or the organization lacks such a structure. About a year after I left a job, my former coworkers filled me in on an amusing exchange between the owner and a salesman:

    Owner: BLAH BLAH SCREAM BLAH SCREAM BLAH BLAH! Salesman: I'm sorry, I can't let you talk to me like that. Owner: Fuck that, I'll talk to you however the hell I want. Salesman: Bye.

  • (disco) in reply to emkael
    emkael:
    8 days a week
    That's a pretty long week.

    But I won't laugh. I had worked on that kind of schedule before because their pay is pretty good. Yet I won't want to do it again because it was too painful, and to think about that again, the money didn't worth drop in mental state.

  • (disco) in reply to another_sam
    another_sam:
    > Tony soon found himself working 15–16 hours a day, 6–8 days a week, trying to meet the deadline and keep his job.

    TRWTF. Who responds to unreasonable requrests from their boss in such a way? I tell my boss what I can and can't get done by the deadline. I don't kill myself trying to meet unrealistic expectations and I certainly don't put up with grown adults yelling at me.

    If I'm fired it will be without cause and I'll get richpaid for my time while finding a new job.

    No job is worth being treated like that.

    I wouldn't quite call it TRWTF. He had never had a civilian job. He just got out of the military. They have a different measurement scale for effort than we do.

  • (disco) in reply to chozang
    chozang:
    He just got out of the military. They have a different measurement scale for effort than we do.

    And talking back to or trying to do an end-run around your boss can, potentially, get you not just fired, but court-martialed for insubordination.

  • (disco) in reply to s73v3r

    Continuing the discussion from Enlisted:

    s73v3r:
    Unfortunately HR is just as likely to have you let go, because you're the one rocking the boat.

    And I would be happy to leave. Any other course of action serves to perpetuate the belief that it is okay to abuse the staff.

  • (disco) in reply to Matt_Westwood
    Matt_Westwood:
    Stupidity is your friend.

    Not just stupidity. Laziness.

  • (disco) in reply to cheong
    cheong:
    the money didn't worth drop in mental state

    This is why people are told not to work that hard.

  • (disco) in reply to beginner_
    beginner_:
    beginner_: Never work under incompetent/insecure/sadistic women. Unless you are a masochist.

    Actually, you can switch "women" with "boss" as well. In my experience, there's little gender-related differences there.

  • (disco)
    Tony soon found himself working 15–16 hours a day, 6–8 days a week, trying to meet the deadline and keep his job.
    He spent the next ten minutes typing up his resignation letter.

    He worked this out faster than I did.

    rc4:
    Are there seriously this many offices with bosses that shout at you needlessly and nobody bats an eye?

    I have a blacklist of four managers who I will never work with again unless by a freak accident for a short period. This is primarily for their safety.

    In any case, those businesses won't do well for long. Making the talent leave for better climes is a bad business model.

    beginner_:
    Never work under women. Unless you are a masochist.

    Feminism Flame in 3... 2... 1...

    CoyneTheDup:
    It happens. One of my bosses had a major meltdown, literally screaming at me, because I dared to highlight text in red in a message I sent.

    The mature response is to highlight the text in white, make the text colour white, then attach a picture of your bottom.

  • (disco) in reply to PJH
    PJH:
    one of your countrymen

    :wave:

  • (disco) in reply to nullptr
    nullptr:
    Yes. I think it's actually more likely than not, but I'm a bit cynical by this point.

    Not only bosses. I have actually had a new employee march in and start shouting at me under the impression that I reported to him. (and Colombian marching powder. Never underestimate the effects of this substance or the number of managers who rely on it to get through the day. London is apparently the cocaine end user capital of the world, and you can't even trace it by testing banknotes because just about every single banknote in London tests positive already.)

  • (disco) in reply to Matt_Westwood

    At the same time, I like being able to pay bills.

  • (disco) in reply to another_sam
    another_sam:
    > Tony soon found himself working 15–16 hours a day, 6–8 days a week, trying to meet the deadline and keep his job.

    TRWTF. Who responds to unreasonable requrests from their boss in such a way? I tell my boss what I can and can't get done by the deadline. I don't kill myself trying to meet unrealistic expectations and I certainly don't put up with grown adults yelling at me.

    If I'm fired it will be without cause and I'll get richpaid for my time while finding a new job.

    No job is worth being treated like that.

    Yes, but by admission, this is the guy's first job. How many of us had the presence of mind to not do that stuff when we were bright eyed and bushy tailed?

    It's easy to say you wouldn't put up with something after you've been in industry for a while. For your first job? Not so much.

  • (disco) in reply to s73v3r

    I've been a slacker since the day I was born.

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