• WTFGuy (unregistered)

    Frist off, the real WTF is that Adam R. would order a desk in "Cinnamon Cherry". WTF Dude, have you no shame? ;)

    As to Nero & Jira, the amazing thing is that someday the early 21st Century will be as far in the past as Nero is to us. And there will still be vast numbers of open Jira tickets floating around someplace. Probably forward-ported to new and different tracking systems a hundred times, but still sitting there as the irredeemable sludge at the bottom of the round-tuit FIFO stack that every ticketing system eventually turns into.

  • Steve (unregistered)

    Todd R. must be new in his role, as he hasn't yet realised that any company using Jira to track issues will actually take roughly that long to respond.

    If there's such a thing as a 'Support Smell' the use of Jira is a really bad one.

  • RLB (unregistered)

    And I bet the Adam R. one is also, beneath the surface, a NULL conversion. To be precise, NULL to 0 to Unix epoch.

  • Debra (unregistered)

    TRWTF is actually bothering with codechef or other "competitive programming" garbage.

  • Robin (unregistered) in reply to RLB

    Indeed. I'd say seeing "1st Jan 1970" in the wild is nearly as common as NaN/null/undefined

  • DQ (unregistered)

    Our ticketing system uses the FINO method: First in - never out.

  • Cidolfas (unregistered)

    I see the date mismatch (where more expensive "expedited" delivery comes later than "regular" delivery) all over the place. I imagine it's because they're just two different services with their own lanes and pipelines and it's entirely possible that one is more efficient than the other in different circumstances.

  • (nodebb)

    What they didn't tell you is that standard delivery is May 21 next year.

  • Meir (unregistered)

    Todd hasn't informed us what the content of that ticket is. So, herewith:

    Description: the Julio-Claudian dynasty is dying out!

    Status: cannot reproduce

  • Kleyguerth (github) in reply to Cidolfas

    Yeah I don't think that's a WTF. Sometimes the "expedited" is even cheaper than "regular"... They are really just two different services with different scheduling and pipelines, real life isn't a simulation game where "more expensive = faster" is a rule.

  • Foo AKA Fooo (unregistered) in reply to Barry Margolin 0

    Nice try, but they do say Friday ... must be 2027.

  • Foo AKA Fooo (unregistered)

    Actually, TRWTF is Laks using a float (1e6) for an integer loop bound. In C++ FFS.

    The only excuse would be code golf, but it's not as evidenced by whitespace, comments and "long" identifiers.

  • Loren Pechtel (unregistered)

    Meir, you win this thread!

  • Foo AKA Fooo (unregistered) in reply to Kleyguerth

    Under which circumstances would a reasonable customer choose a more expensive and slower option?

    If the answer is never, then even offering this is either laziness of the developer or an attempted scam.

    Just like offering "1 for $2, 2 for $5" is absurd and saying that technically "1 item" and "2 items" are different products in the DB with arbitrary prices is not an excuse.

    Real world, you know ...

  • Laks (unregistered) in reply to Foo AKA Fooo

    Well, I regret not hiding the code:( First things first, the code is NOT mine, neither I'm into competitive programming (cp) , nor do I own a poco. This screenshot belongs rightfully to my friend, who's just starting with cp and C++11 (a student, which I'm too). Secondly, haste is a valid excuse, and isn't nullified by the long comments because that long comment is was not written at 'coding time', but is part of a ready to use 'cp template' that is a real WTF goldmine, studded with #DEFINEs for type aliases, and what not. 1e6 is definitely shorter than 10000000 (oh, did I miss a 0? Or rather got an extra) and safe, one long long'd. Thirdly, cp world is a far cry from 'real software engineering' (as if it isn't already known), and I share your (presumed) hatred of it. I've seen beginner cp submissions that perform mindbending magic like 'int n; cin<<n; int array[n];' and work fine! (C++14, converted constant expressions I think). I've seen Java submissions hoarding 2133M memory just for counting odd number occurrences in within serial integer input! So please don't troll; it's a student code. The real WTF is really the time counter, which is NOT a student code. (also, as I'm not a native English speaker, resist the urges to poke at my WTFy sentence syntaxes, focus rather on semantics.)

  • Ben Gosolov (unregistered)

    In 1970, a "computer desk" would likely come with a dedicated space for a terminal.

  • Loren Pechtel (unregistered) in reply to Foo AKA Fooo

    |Under which circumstances would a reasonable customer choose a more expensive and slower option?

    |If the answer is never, then even offering this is either laziness of the developer or an attempted scam.

    When the faster, cheaper option isn't viable for some reason. Say, the destination is a post office box so you have to choose USPS. Or you know how frequently carrier X messes up delivering to your address.

    I have had a website force the slower, more expensive option on me because of what I was ordering--lithium batteries.

  • Officer Johnny Holzkopf (unregistered) in reply to DQ

    Or FISH mode: First in, still here - a common "processing" concept for tickets in enterprise software...

  • ⚒️🔨⛏️🔧 (unregistered)

    Yet another boring addition from Lyle Seaman. Thanks for the riveting article

  • Foo AKA Fooo (unregistered) in reply to Loren Pechtel

    Sure, when I ordered my TV, I had to chose delivery by freight forwarder because it wouldn't fit in a parcel. That's another situation -- there is no choice, so the web site shouldn't even pretend to offer a choice.

    Messing up your address might be a possible reason, though in my experience, express is either an option with the same shipping company, or they don't even specify, or just list some companies they use for shipping generally, and it's your guess which one may do the normal or express delivery (and it may be different from the last time you ordered there). That's what OP looks like, so just paying more for a slower and possibly more (but maybe less) reliable delivery is a strange gamble.

  • (nodebb)

    If you type rubbish dates into Jira, you can get some extremely bad dates back out. I think the 45th of January is a valid day for instance. It will turn into some time in February, thanks to the underlying libraries.

  • (nodebb) in reply to Loren Pechtel

    I have had a website force the slower, more expensive option on me because of what I was ordering--lithium batteries.

    Normally it's the carriers that force that, not the battery-vendor websites. After all, you're asking the vendor to use the carrier to send you incendiary hand grenades that are pretending to be lithium batteries.

  • Grunthos the Flatulent (unregistered) in reply to Foo AKA Fooo

    "1 for $2, 2 for $5" - however they may have different PLU numbers and if there was say something like a pandemic which restricted how many "items by PLU" you could order then one unit of 2 bog rolls could well be worth it vs only being able to get the one roll even if it is cheaper....

  • Juzio (unregistered)

    Everybody knows that the last words of Nero before he killed himself were: "Jirae in hac tessera ad scribendum ".

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