• (disco) in reply to HardwareGeek

    Mine are to make sure that I don't loose my game because the power flickers :)

  • (disco)

    I've heard both "grounded" and "earthed", but I've probably spent enough time on British guitar amp tech forums to have unconsciously picked up whichever term is incorrect for my side of the pond as a synonym.

  • (disco) in reply to redwizard
    redwizard:
    I've seen (usually older) buildings with grounding issues that cause all kinds of weird problems.

    Yep, been there done that....

    Back when I was young and foolish (and in university) the building I had an office in was old and the power and network systems were not state of the art to put it mildly.

    My 10 minutes of glory was when I told my office mates that in order for them to get usable network connections (as I had), all they had to do was to affix a wire to the chassis of their computers and connect the other end to the heaters (old water based radiators), which provided a good enough earth (which the power mains didn't)....

    over the next year my 'hotfix' (drumroll please) spread to the rest of the building... :-)

  • (disco) in reply to tenshino

    Ambiguous. Could be :electric_plug: or :truck:

  • (disco) in reply to Yazeran
    Yazeran:
    'hotfix'

    :rimshot: :smiley:

  • (disco) in reply to Onyx

    Continuing the discussion from Power Trip:

    Onyx:
    HardwareGeek:
    I'd rather have daily Fridays

    So every day is a Friday?

    But Friday sucks because it's just Error'd, and then there's another two days till the next TDWTF. Terribly tedious.

  • (disco) in reply to Matt_Westwood
    Matt_Westwood:
    Friday sucks because it's just Error'd

    You do have a point there; that is a downside to Fridays.

  • (disco) in reply to Matt_Westwood
    [image]

    How in the world did you... Is that Discourse being it's capable self or are you just trolling?

  • (disco)

    TRWTF is allowing the air from an AC to blow directly onto an office worker. It can be really uncomfortable to have cold air blowing over you all day. if it were me, I would refuse point-blank to work underneath such an outlet. At the very least, baffles need to be installed so as to break up the flow of air before it hits the workers. If not, then Mike has every right to demand to be moved.

  • (disco)
    kupfernigk:
    I've never had an EE query either usage, and I've always assumed from experience that they are interchangeable.

    I've (almost?) never heard earth used by a US EE (except to distinguish between safety (earth) ground and signal ground), but I've encountered it enough in foreign usage that it doesn't phase <!-- pun intended --> me. I would certainly never say it's wrong.

  • (disco)
    kupfernigk:
    I've never had an EE query either usage

    Well, see, I'm not an EE :stuck_out_tongue: I just know a bit about wiring (in the context of 2-way radio mostly)

  • (disco) in reply to HardwareGeek
    HardwareGeek:
    I don't know if they they verb it (i.e., earthed).

    Australian Electrical English does.

  • (disco) in reply to Matt_Westwood
    Matt_Westwood:
    If not, then Mike has every right to demand to be moved.

    Beach umbrella!

  • (disco) in reply to Tsaukpaetra
    Tsaukpaetra:
    sloosecannon:
    a space heater can overload the entire building's circuit!
    No joke, I kid you not there was a company-wide email sent out telling everyone not to use space heaters. [image] Never truly explained why such was mentioned, we're in Arizona....

    Every year or two the fire marshal comes by to inspect our building. One thing they specifically look for, which is forbidden, is space heaters. Remember, I'm in Texas. Turns out the women in the office don't like cold and all have space heaters that they hide when they hear the fire marshal's coming. :rolleyes:

  • (disco) in reply to Hanzo
    Hanzo:
    Muricans and their ACs set to stun-freeze.

    French people and their letting ten thousand old people die in a heat wave.

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    Turns out the women in the office don't like cold and all have space heaters that they hide when they hear the fire marshal's coming.

    Surprise inspection time?

  • (disco) in reply to Mason_Wheeler
    Mason_Wheeler:
    That right there is TRWTF. If you're not developing on a battery backup--either on a laptop or a desktop with a UPS--you're Doing It Wrong. They're not just for servers.

    You wanna call my boss up and tell him that? It took us ten years to get a UPS for the servers.

  • (disco) in reply to tenshino
    tenshino:
    Mine are to make sure that I don't loose my game because the power flickers

    Well, get out a screwdriver and tighten your game up!

  • (disco) in reply to sloosecannon
    sloosecannon:
    Surprise inspection time?

    Not my circus, not my monkeys.

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat

    Read that as the French letting ten-thousand year olds die in a heat wave, initially. I was all for that. Then I toyed with ten thousand year-olds, which I was very much against. Then I realized the absence of "year" and was fine.

  • (disco) in reply to JBert
    JBert:
    It could have triggered the ground fault interrupter if it was faulty
    Yes, that was my thought too.
    in which case the guy bringing it in shouldn't be allowed anywhere near to an electrical outlet.
    The first time, I can understand. But anyone who experiences "plug my heater in -> building immediately goes dark" and then decides to keep trying it instead of getting the heater checked...
    Mason_Wheeler:
    If you're not developing on a battery backup--either on a laptop or a desktop with a UPS--you're Doing It Wrong.
    Costs and benefits, I suppose. In a former job I was working in an isolated area and the power was relatively unstable; eventually they did give us each a UPS. In my current job, though, to the best of my memory we've had fewer power failures than building moves, and it's more frequent that we can't work because we've lost access to the datacentre. If you need a UPS less than once a year for your desktop, it's really not worth the bother.

    Though at the end of our time in our first building (or at least the one we were in when I joined), we were getting seriously overcrowded and I spent a fair amount of time with a desktop jammed onto a trestle table with several other people's computers (mostly laptops). That one had the power cord accidentally kicked out quite a few times, and yes, that was frustrating.

  • (disco)

    Yes, you can trip the "main" breaker without tripping individual circuits. On my house, there is a 100 amp main breaker, and the individual breakers are 50amp for the range, 30 amp for the dryer. Add in a couple of outlet circuits at 20 amps and a lighting circuit at 15 amps, and you have the ability to pop the main breaker without tripping any of the individual ones. If you put space heaters (1500 watts is 12.5 amps, which is WAY more than a normal computer) in they can add up fast. I suspect that the total load was VERY close to the limit of the mains. The whole thing should be checked out to find out the amp-sucker, as I suspect that there is one somewhere besides the space heater.

  • (disco) in reply to HardwareGeek

    We don't verb the word "terre" (earth in French) but hey, we don't often verb any noun.

    So the French expression is "mettre à la terre" (to put to earth).

  • (disco) in reply to safarty

    Now days computers don't need that cold air.

    Even servers, provided the cold air is feed directly to the server and the hot air is properly removed from the room to avoid re-feeding to the servers, They pretty much accommodate the same temperature as people do.

    In fact, too cold is even bad for servers. A nice 25 degrees, like agreable for people sitting at a desk while they work. And it greatly save on your energy bill. Here, in my University, I have blocked the various room thermostaters so that they cannot be set bellow 24, nobody every complained (but they used to regularly be tuned to 15 before).

  • (disco)

    I think he just need to replace his computer with laptops like Surface Pro 3.

    These days the laptops can warm you better than space heater on full loading. The only caveat is that you can have sore arms if you keep your hand on the upper right corner of the screen. :stuck_out_tongue:

  • (disco) in reply to sloosecannon
    sloosecannon:
    space heaters overload the entire building

    If you put a device designed to increase the temperature of a room right next to a device designed to decrease the temperature of the room, neither one of them will be very happy.

  • (disco) in reply to Mario_Levesque
    Mario_Levesque:
    0K

    9508°U?

  • (disco) in reply to superjer

    vim has autosave. If the text editor you're using for programming is less user friendly than vim, it's time to re-consider your life choices.

  • (disco) in reply to ben_lubar

    I suspect that if your mistress makes you use edlin, then you probably want to be there anyway.

  • (disco) in reply to sloosecannon

    Time to set a temperature more agreeable to everyone involved, rather. No one should need a space heater in a place with AC. They should be able to change the temperature setting.

  • (disco) in reply to Khudzlin

    I always liked the story about the company that had problems with everyone wanting different temperatures. They installed thermostats by each desk so all were happy. The thermostats did not do anything, but they did not know that.

  • (disco)

    This topic needs more metal ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE7Zv6d-HUA

    Fixed!

  • (disco) in reply to Scarlet_Manuka
    Scarlet_Manuka:
    If you need a UPS less than once a year for your desktop, it's really not worth the bother.
    I think I encountered a power failure while working on a pc (or trying to) twice in the last 20 or so years. The last time it happened I was using a laptop, so no problem. Until I actually tried to *do* anything and realised my cablemodem with my vpn connection (working at home) was also connected to the mains.

    That is not counting the time I worked with a company where the entire building lost power about once a month. Did I mention it was an electricity company?

  • (disco) in reply to Tsaukpaetra

    You all Have It Wrong™

    This is a BIG clue

    Tsaukpaetra:
    Never truly explained why such was mentioned, we're in Arizona....

    The closest anybody has come is in using this word:

    Tsaukpaetra:
    marshal

    and they were from

    Tsaukpaetra:
    Remember, I'm in Texas

    please, please, please work Onebox because I CBA to sort out the formatting work if I copied and pasted it http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=heater&defid=302723

    Bollocks! Sod it! Go see it :gun: Why is that pointing the wrong way?

  • (disco) in reply to callcopse

    If it's cold enough that some people feel the need for a space heater, you're not going to solve the problem with fake thermostats.

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    Turns out the women in the office don't like cold and all have space heaters….
    I don't even…

    And nobody sees the systemic problem here?

  • (disco) in reply to jkshapiro
    jkshapiro:
    And nobody sees the systemic problem here?

    Sure. None of the women are allowed to warm themselves up? Inter-personal work relations and all that jazz.

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    Turns out the women in the office don't like cold and all have space heaters

    Actually. I was listening to a radio program only yesterdayWedensday and there is scientific proof for this. In short: Men and women are roughly equally sensitive to changes in temperature. But the female response is faster and harder i.e. blood circulation to the extremities happens quickly and is more effective This is why many women have hands and feet that are cold to the touch. Because the brain "feels" this then they are compelled to think it is cold. Whilst men don't

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p032r4lv

    Revealing Statement Edit: Now everybody knows I am a Radio 4 Listener. Bugger! :frowning:

  • (disco) in reply to Luhmann
    Luhmann:
    Fixed!

    Nah. Still need more metal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GATpxojtye8

  • (disco) in reply to Olivier_Nicole
    Olivier_Nicole:
    A nice 25 degrees, like agreable for people sitting at a desk while they work.

    No. Just no.

  • (disco) in reply to loose

    I wonder if it's stress-related? I've discovered recently that temperature drops in the extremities can be caused by stress, and socially, women are conditioned to be very hard on ourselves and each other, picking at every little flaw, so we tend to be stressed out most of the time.

  • (disco) in reply to Yamikuronue

    Women are also very caring and sharing

    Oh Edit: No. Actually its down to oestrogen, as usual

  • (disco) in reply to Yamikuronue
    Yamikuronue:
    I wonder if it's stress-related?
    A theory I read maybe a decade ago is that it’s to protect the womb: better have cold hands and feet than a cold unborn child.
  • (disco) in reply to loose
    loose:
    and there is scientific proof for this

    Where are the SJWs demanding sexual equality when you need them....

  • (disco) in reply to PJH

    Trying to not get noticed? Avoiding eye contact? Actually in the hole that they wished would open up under them? Snip...?

  • (disco) in reply to HardwareGeek
    HardwareGeek:
    it doesn't phase me.

    That's a fraze to remember.

  • (disco) in reply to loose
    loose:
    Revealing Statement Edit: Now everybody knows I am a Radio 4 Listener. Bugger!

    As an American, I can guarantee that I have no idea what that implies exactly. Nor do I care.

  • (disco) in reply to blakeyrat
    blakeyrat:
    Nor do I care.

    You clearly care enough to point it out...

  • (disco) in reply to blakeyrat

    As an American, I do not expect you to know. In fact I would not expect anybody outside of the UK to really know. People might get a clue if they listen to the BBC World Service and I am not sure if Radio 4 is even available in the Colonies.

    I don't think you would even have the equivalent in the States to help you understand.

    Addendum: Actually, I'm not sure if even I know

  • (disco) in reply to loose

    Is Radio 4 only for bed wetters or something? Bed Wetter Radio? Tune in for the rubber mattress show, ever day at 4:00!

    Also do your dials like just literally say "1, 2, 3, 4"? Here in the US, we use frequencies like big boys.

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