• (disco)

    So, business as usual for former Soviet-bloc countries, no?

  • (disco)

    Ah! This brings back so many bittersweet memories from a forgotten millenium...

  • (disco)

    And there was me thinking this was Government SOP. E.g. DVLA introduces paperless paper counterpart of UK Driving License, and any NHS System

  • (disco)

    ...and here in Poland Application tests you!

  • (disco) in reply to HardwareGeek
    HardwareGeek:
    So, business as usual for former Soviet-bloc countries, no?

    Estonia seems to get some things right:

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/02/estonia/

  • (disco) in reply to HardwareGeek
    HardwareGeek:
    So, business as usual for former Soviet-bloc countries, no?

    Nyet, tovarishch. Estonia has a really good IT infrastructure and so, I believe, has Slovenia. I suspect that this is just a case of ordinary corruption and pork barrel, the thing that has led to the collapse of many IT projects in both the US and the UK.

  • (disco)

    "There's nothing alarming about it."

    Does that sound to you like it was written by one of the developers tasked with explaining to a wild-eyed project manager who has suddenly been hit between the eyes by the realisation that the damn thing don't work?

    "No, we are not coming in at the weekend just to sort out the stupid problems caused by your database guy. Not my fault that damn fool Andrzej Jarembdzewiekjewski forgot the "where" clause in his delete."

  • (disco) in reply to Matt_Westwood
    Matt_Westwood:
    Andrzej Jarembdzewiekjewski

    Hey, I know the guy!

  • (disco) in reply to Matt_Westwood
    Matt_Westwood:
    Jarembdzewiekjewski
    Looks like someone threw up a bag of Scrabble tiles
  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK

    Nah! There is only one J and it scores 8 points :laughing:

  • (disco) in reply to loose

    Is there a special Polish edition, where the j's k's i's and z's are like e's?

  • (disco) in reply to loose
    loose:
    Is there a special Polish edition

    Actually, yes:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrabble_letter_distributions#Polish

    Z and I score the same as E, though Ź scores 9. K scores 2, J scores 3.

  • (disco) in reply to Yamikuronue

    Does not compute picture != text :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

    Just to make it clear, I am not attributing this bug to @Yamikuronue

    Unless, of course, somebody wants to make it a QA Issue :trollface:

  • (disco) in reply to loose

    you'll have to contact Wikipedia's QA department ;)

  • (disco)

    Bullshit! You cannot use ePUAP (pl) to send your tax report. The taxes are done on a completely different platform, that needs an electronic signature for companies OR your income in the previous tax year for humans (which is much easier than getting a Trusted Profile).

  • (disco) in reply to Kwpolska
    Kwpolska:
    Bullshit! You cannot use ePUAP (pl) to send your tax report. The taxes are done on a completely different platform, that needs an electronic signature for companies OR your income in the previous tax year for humans (which is much easier than getting a Trusted Profile).

    HELL YEAH!

    You sure told them!

    (Do people simply not understand what this site is about? WTF.)

  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK
    RaceProUK:
    Matt_Westwood:
    Jarembdzewiekjewski
    Looks like someone threw up a bag of Scrabble tiles

    Maybe they just failed at spelling JOZYXQE?


    Filed under: I'll let myself out now...

  • (disco) in reply to Onyx
    Onyx:
    JOZYXQE

    Smeg!, That's gotta hurt :wink:

  • (disco) in reply to Kwpolska
    Kwpolska:
    You cannot use ePUAP (pl) to send your tax report.

    Apparently, the functionality is there, but they won't accept it for some reason.

    Or something. It's Poland, there's nothing simple and straightforward here.

  • (disco) in reply to Maciejasjmj

    Just had a peek at the URL :smile:

    What are the chances that a random bash on the keyboard i.e. http://kldf-na-ikjvasl.pl would get a hit?

  • (disco) in reply to loose
    loose:
    What are the chances that a random bash on the keyboard i.e. http://*kldf-na-ikjvasl*.pl would get a hit?

    You'll want to take this up with Czechs and Slovaks. We Poles do use a vowel once in a while.

  • (disco) in reply to loose

    With the stars in there? Probably zero.

  • (disco) in reply to PleegWat
    PleegWat:
    With the stars in there? Probably zero

    Seems Discourse has some form of precedence ruling about link content, before content styling - or something like that.

    Maciejasjmj:
    i.e. http://*kldf-na-ikjvasl*.pl would get a hit?

    There FTFY, although you might have to view the RAW to see the FIX

  • (disco)

    And this article is WTF why exactly? Except for yet another rant on Poland and Gov IT Infrastructure it's not really that interesting. You're quoting a PR guy who, most probably, knows nothing about IT. Downtime during maintenance/upgrade is nothing unexpected. And let's think for a minute about amount of data, servers and resources needed to support ePUAP.

    Someone mentioned Estonia. Are we really comparing country with 38 million people living in it with Estonia and it's population smaller then capital of Warsaw? Please...

    I mean... ePUAP's downtime is a problem but certainly it's not a WTF. Ekhem healthcare.gov ekhem anyone? :)

    Disclaimer: I'm not involved in any way with ePUAP, just tired of rants coming from know-it-all student.

  • (disco) in reply to Blejzu
    Blazej_Bucko:
    I mean... ePUAP's downtime is a problem but certainly it's not a WTF. Ekhem healthcare.gov ekhem anyone?

    That it was down because they were testing things in production was a WTF. And feel free to write up an article on healthcare.gov…

  • (disco) in reply to Blejzu
    Blazej_Bucko:
    Ekhem healthcare.gov ekhem anyone?

    If you like your broken web page, you can keep your broken web page.

  • (disco) in reply to Blejzu
    Blazej_Bucko:
    And this article is WTF why exactly? Except for yet another rant on Poland and Gov IT Infrastructure it's not really that interesting.

    Look, I tried really hard to stuff cyber-ninjas in there.

    Blazej_Bucko:
    just tired of rants coming from know-it-all student.

    Ahem. A know-it-all graduate now.

    Also, it's not my rant. I'm just the make-up guy here.

  • (disco)

    They probably just deployed the wrong .zip file. It happens.

  • (disco) in reply to Maciejasjmj
    Maciejasjmj:
    You'll want to take this up with Czechs and Slovaks. We Poles do use a vowel once in a while.

    As my Russian teacher says, Slavonic is like Russian but without the vowels. I guess there is a continuum from vowel-heavy Romania (which isn't a Russian group language) to the Serbs, or Srps.

  • (disco)

    Quote from Google Translate: "We do not know how long it will last inconvenience to users of the system. The new version ePUAP platform is to be presented soon. - It will be better, more efficient with new services - says Goat."

  • (disco) in reply to LordMike
    LordMike:
    "We do not know how long it will last inconvenience to users of the system. The new version ePUAP platform is to be presented soon. - It will be better, more efficient with new services - says Goat."
    If Goat says it, it must be true. Giles would agree.
  • (disco)

    A lot of Polish people (such as the author of this article) have no national pride or patriotism. That's one of the reasons I left Poland.

  • (disco) in reply to wes68
    wes68:
    A lot of Polish people (such as the author of this article) have no national pride or patriotism. That's one of the reasons I left Poland.

    I don't quite follow that reasoning. While it is true you might find fewer Poles outside of Poland without patriotism, wouldn't you also find fewer Poles outside of Poland with patriotism?

  • (disco) in reply to wes68
    wes68:
    A lot of Polish people (such as the author of this article) have no national pride or patriotism. That's one of the reasons I left Poland.

    So in the name of patriotism, you fucked off the country. That... makes sense. Somehow.

    Also, I personally never got the whole "national pride" thing. Those are not your achievements. The only claim to them you have is that you happened to be born in roughly the same place as the people who actually achieved something. What, exactly. is there to be proud of?

  • (disco) in reply to tharpa

    I don't know exactly what percentage of patriotic Poles is, broken down by their location, but I'm going to rephrase: in my opinion Polish people should really be more patriotic and have more national pride. That means fixing their problems, and not laughing at them at forums like this one.

  • (disco) in reply to wes68
    wes68:
    in my opinion Polish people should really be more patriotic and have more national pride. That means fixing their problems, and not laughing at them at forums like this one.
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  • (disco) in reply to wes68
    wes68:
    in my opinion Polish people should really be more patriotic and have more national pride

    Because that worked out so well for them in WW2. If thinking Poles learned anything from WW2 it is the truth of Einstein's dictum - "Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind." That's one reason why today they are strong supporters of the EU.

  • (disco) in reply to Maciejasjmj
    Maciejasjmj:
    What, exactly. is there to be proud of?

    Perhaps it can encourage you to maintain the continuity of the culture that presumably did something worth being proud of.

  • (disco) in reply to kupfernigk
    kupfernigk:
    If thinking Poles learned anything from WW2 it is the truth of Einstein's dictum - "Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."

    Given the country Einstein came from and the era he came from it, it was probably especially wise of him to feel that way. Poles, not so much.

  • (disco) in reply to wes68
    wes68:
    I don't know exactly what percentage of patriotic Poles is, broken down by their location,

    I'm glad you realize "patriotic" is a boolean.

  • (disco) in reply to blakeyrat
    blakeyrat:
    I'm glad you realize "patriotic" is a boolean.

    It can be coerced into a boolean.

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    Perhaps it can encourage you to maintain the continuity of the culture that presumably did something worth being proud of.

    Fine enough - but that doesn't explain why people should root for their own culture, instead of the one they feel achieved the most.

    wes68:
    in my opinion Polish people should really be more patriotic and have more national pride. That means fixing their problems, and not laughing at them at forums like this one.

    How does "fixing our shit" follow from "national pride"? Why can't we mock failed attempts to fix our shit by people who get paid for it? Do you realize this is a humor site?

    tharpa:
    Given the country Einstein came from and the era he came from it, it was probably especially wise of him to feel that way. Poles, not so much.

    Our POLAND STRONK mentality has bit us in the ass quite a few times over the course of history. Let's just say that "sabres against tanks" was a particularly believable piece of propaganda for a reason.

  • (disco) in reply to Maciejasjmj

    Sadly, it is also my observation that a lot of Poles are foul-mouthed a**holes.

  • (disco) in reply to wes68
    wes68:
    Sadly, it is also my observation that a lot of Poles are foul-mouthed a**holes.

    And, as you'd like us to, proud of it.

  • (disco) in reply to wes68
    wes68:
    a lot of Polespeople are foul-mouthed a**holes
    FTFE
  • (disco) in reply to Maciejasjmj
    Maciejasjmj:
    Fine enough - but that doesn't explain why people should root for their own culture, instead of the one they feel achieved the most.

    "Man, it's great to be Assyrian. Oh, wait, I'm not one of them." Seems a weird thing, is all.

  • (disco) in reply to Maciejasjmj
    Maciejasjmj:
    Our POLAND STRONK mentality has bit us in the ass quite a few times over the course of history. Let's just say that "sabres against tanks" was a particularly believable piece of propaganda for a reason.

    The worst nationalism of all for Europe has actually been that of Serbia. This small country precipitated WW1 by its expansionism, leading to WW2, and then did it all over again in the 1990s, though this time without a world war. Serbian nationalism has been at the root of the worst European wars of the 20th century, and yet it's largely based on near-fictitious history.

  • (disco) in reply to Blejzu
    Blazej_Bucko:
    Downtime during maintenance/upgrade is nothing unexpected.

    I'd say the WTF is planning your downtime at the same time everyone is accessing the system. That's a pretty big WTF...

  • (disco) in reply to dkf
    dkf:
    That it was down because they were testing things in production shortly before the tax filing deadline was a WTF
    ADTFY

    Filed under: We couldn't complete all the testing over a weekend, so we decided to do the rest at the busiest possible time, and also not have a rollback strategy

  • (disco) in reply to Maciejasjmj

    This is a humor site, I agree. Some posts are just funnier then others. But making fun of fouled up deployment is pretty lame.

    People tend to believe any shit they read in the papers, especially when it's backed up by Nazi and Communism Governments. I think you're missing the point of POLAND STRONK meme. Don't mistake patriotism for stupid nationalism that uses the flag as a reason for kicking the shit out of people.

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