• (disco)

    Ah, the new format hurts my eyes.

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    Not enough psychedelic GeoCities background images.

    1996 AOL didn't have the GeoCities thing going on.

  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla
    boomzilla:
    Enter AOL keyword BRILLANT

    Those were the days, eh?

  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla
    boomzilla:
    Enter AOL keyword BRILLANT

    Oh dear. Having been one of the Guides on this side of the pond:

    1. Keyword should be capitalised
    2. It should be followed by a colon.
    3. The AOL prefix before keyword didn't come in until near the end not long before they got rid of the Guides.
  • (disco) in reply to PJH
    PJH:
    Oh dear. Having been one of the Guides on this side of the pond:
    1. Keyword should be capitalised
    2. It should be followed by a colon.
    3. The AOL prefix before keyword didn't come in until near the end not long before they got rid of the Guides.

    Did you know AOL's software is still sort of a thing? My stepmum uses it.

    SRSLY.

  • (disco) in reply to Arantor
    Arantor:
    Did you know AOL's software is still sort of a thing? My stepmum uses it.

    Suspected, but largely ignorant. I ditched them as an ISP about 10 years ago when I resigned from the programme.

  • (disco) in reply to PJH
    PJH:
    Suspected, but largely ignorant. I ditched them as an ISP about 10 years ago when I resigned from the programme.

    Not entirely terribad 10 years ago as ISPs in this country go but much worse these days.

  • (disco) in reply to Arantor

    Well the Guide programme was in a wind down around that time, and I couldn't continue to give a commitment, so I resigned and ditched the addon I wrote for it.

    Just had a look at the bugs group I created on Yahoo for it - there are sources (well for a couple of versions) there. Might download them some time and see how crap a programmer I was back then when I was learning VB....

  • (disco)

    An increase in the minimum dynamic width for the main site would be nice. Any chance you'd add this for us?

  • (disco) in reply to PJH
    PJH:
    Google 'rotating snakes' - **there are** a few color schemes.

    GNTFY

  • (disco)

    I was all set to ask what the sidebar has to do with a sidebar anymore, and then remembered that there is a front page.

    I always access the site by going to the tab I left open from the last time I was here, refreshing, clicking the link above the article (which was the latest one when I was last reading) to go to the next one...read...check the featured comments...go read the full comment thread if I feel like it...then glance over at the sidebar to see whether there are any sidebar entries with titles I feel like looking at.

    So...from my perspective, the new site has the following degradations:

    • Link to next/previous story only at the bottom - pretty insignificant
    • Click to preview "top" comments, then click again to get to full list - "top" comments, especially behind a click, are not nearly as appealing to me as the "featured" comments were, and a second click to get to the actual comments thread makes the "top" comments part feel like even more of a waste of time. Mildly annoying.
    • Have to navigate to another page to see the Sidebar WTF top 5 list - irritating.

    I used to be able to hit one page and branch off from there to every part of the site in which I cared to participate. Now one of those branches (sometimes) requires scrolling it didn't before, and the other three all require at least one additional click. Overall I'd say my user experience has degraded about 30%. Maybe it'll grow on me.

  • (disco) in reply to kilroo

    You could even submit code on GitHub if you really wanted...

  • (disco)

    Well, they broke a workaround I've been using for a long time. Many webmasters break the ability to distinguish visited links from unvisited links. Fortunately, the bookmarklet "zap colors" removes all of the color schemes that a webmaster applies, so once again you can see what's been visited and what hasn't been. However, under "The New Look", using "zap colors" on the main page renders everything in the right-hand column invisible. So there's no way for the surfer to see which articles have been visited and which haven't been.

  • (disco) in reply to tharpa
    tharpa:
    Many webmasters break the ability to distinguish visited links from unvisited links.

    People who do that deserve a kick in the shins.

  • (disco) in reply to urkerab
    urkerab:
    Lame workaround: press the Home key.
    I'm quite sure that the Discourse developers will find a way to screw that one up as well, mostly because they'll think it is such a paleolithic method. Navigation by keyboard? What century were you born in, man?
  • (disco) in reply to Steve_The_Cynic

    It was actually broken - the browser would send you to the top of the "current page" which then wouldn't always load the posts above it.

    But they fixed it. With Javascript!

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    People who do that deserve a kick in the shins.
    I think you mean "a kick in the balls(1)", actually.

    (1) Or "nuts", "goolies", "nads", etc. Whatever you call them, being kicked there hurts more than being kicked in the shins. I've never seen anyone fold up and fall on the floor after being kicked in the shins. I nailed someone in the nuts by accident once (in a jujitsu training session, tyvm) and he sort of folded up and fell over. Then there was the guy I once saw who had withdrawn from a jujitsu grading exam because he kicked himself in the nuts.(2)

    (2) No, I don't know how he managed that. I didn't see it happen.

  • (disco) in reply to tharpa
    tharpa:
    Well, they broke a workaround I've been using for a long time.

    They do have a bugtracker (which surprisingly isn't Discourse).

  • (disco) in reply to Arantor
    Arantor:
    You could even submit code on GitHub if you really wanted...

    The duck raises an excellent point.

  • (disco) in reply to kilroo
    kilroo:
    The duck raises an excellent point.

    The quack, you say?!

  • (disco) in reply to Arantor

    What the cluck are you talking about?

  • (disco) in reply to Zecc
    Zecc:
    What the cluck are you talking about?

    If I'm a duck raising an excellent point, surely I need to quack?

  • (disco) in reply to Arantor

    Actually, what I didn't get is why @kilroo called you a duck. Is is a rubber ducking reference?

  • (disco) in reply to Zecc
    Zecc:
    Actually, what I didn't get is why @kilroo called you a duck. Is is a [rubber ducking](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rubber+ducking) reference?

    I dunno. I figure he'll explain it eventually.

  • (disco) in reply to Zecc

    It confuses me, too. Maybe @Arantor's avatar got discoreplaced with @faoileag's?

  • (disco) in reply to aliceif
    aliceif:
    It confuses me, too. Maybe @Arantor's avatar got discoreplaced with @faoileag's?
    But @faoileag's avatar is a seagull?
  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK

    seagulls can quack, or something very much like it.

    true they tend to scream more than teh quack, but they can quack.

  • (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    seagulls can quack, or something very much like it.

    true they tend to scream more than teh quack, but they can quack.

    We saw quite a few seagulls in Brighton. It's not a quack they make.

  • (disco) in reply to Arantor
    Arantor:
    It's not a quack they make.

    It's more a squile

  • (disco) in reply to Arantor
    Arantor:
    Did you know AOL's software is still sort of a thing? My stepmum uses it.

    SRSLY.

    Is it GBOL over there? :stuck_out_tongue:

  • (disco) in reply to Polygeekery
    Intercourse:
    Is it GBOL over there? :stuck_out_tongue:

    BRITISHISMS_NOT_FOUND

  • (disco) in reply to Steve_The_Cynic
    Steve_The_Cynic:
    I think you mean "a kick in the balls(1)", actually.

    I was trying to be nice.

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat

    Thing is you can't talk about it in absolutes. There are plenty of times you would legitimately not want to care about visited vs non visited, e.g. generic navigation or navigation that is likely to be hit multiple times where remembering visited vs non visited is of no use to you.

    Or if the navigation provides other hints as to read status, like an actual unread indicator.

  • (disco) in reply to Arantor
    Arantor:
    There are plenty of times you would legitimately not want to care about visited vs non visited
    One of which times *isn't* search results. **I'm looking at you, DuckDuckGo.**
  • (disco) in reply to Arantor
    Arantor:
    Thing is you can't talk about it in absolutes.

    There are approximately 0 circumstances under which I would not want to have visited vs non-visited links distinguishable.

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    There are approximately 0 circumstances under which I would not want to have visited vs non-visited links distinguishable.

    How about, say, the profile menu on this site while logged in?

  • (disco) in reply to Arantor
    Arantor:
    How about, say, the profile menu on this site while logged in?

    You know, I said "approximately" for a reason.

    Having said that it certainly would not bother me, @codinghorror's so-called aesthetics aside, if the links had different colors, even there.

    I will point out that currently-unread and read threads--or whatever the criterion is--in the topic list have different colors, so even he realizes there's value in it.

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat

    No, they sometimes have different colours. Discoursistently so.

  • (disco) in reply to Arantor
    Arantor:
    No, they [...] have different colours.

    Exactly.

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat

    No, only sometimes. It's not even consistent as to what the criteria is for it.

  • (disco) in reply to Arantor

    Sometimes counts. :\P.

    Wait, Discourse, :\) displays :) but :\P displays :\P? WTF? @pjh or @codinghorror care to explain?

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat

    =P is a good enough replacement for :P


    Filed under: <span> to the rescue!

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat

    \ doesn't always escape like it does in, say, C?

    Dunno. A quick grep on the source for some obvious stuff didn't lead me anywhere promising.

  • (disco) in reply to PJH
    PJH:
    \ doesn't always escape like it does in, say, C?

    In fact, it does so with discoursistency.

  • (disco) in reply to PJH
    PJH:
    \ doesn't always escape like it does in, say, C?

    I was surprised too. :\) isn't hard to type so I assumed--obviously I didn't have the right Discurse frame of mind--:\P would. I find it interesting and annoying that :\P and :\P both display the same (I put two backslashes in the first of those, and in the smiley in my first line) so something is definitely screwy.

    Hey, one of you nerds please find me something like &nbsp; that doesn't take up space, please.

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat

    &zwsp; for zero width space?

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    Hey, one of you nerds please find me something like   that doesn't take up space, please.
    &shy;
  • (disco) in reply to Arantor

    :&zwsp;P

    Guess not. (if I wasn't clear, I'm looking for something that will let me display a colon-p smiley, similar to the colon-right-paren one, and hopefully one that's not so much more effort to type. Hey, another frigging bug-like thing. Why did it render the &?

  • (disco) in reply to PJH

    :­P

    ooh, something like a winner.

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat

    :<span>P


    Filed under: <span>, <span>, wonderful <span>

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