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People like you are the reason that @PleegWat called VS an abomination. :passport_control:
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I do use the one-true-editor.
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Aurora?
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The article is not too bad...dramatized...but actually catches the tone.
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Yes, ISO 9000 is all about repeatability, not correctness or efficiency. As long as you document that your process is hammering the square peg in the round hole and you do it every time, you're ISO 9000 compliant.
As you can imagine, this is all about private equity making factory floors more efficient rather than office workers that need flexibility to respond to unexpected problems, let alone anything to do with software development, but some managers love to hammer that square peg into any hole.
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A factual comment about the proportion of sedevacantcists to the general population is hardly a flamewar, nor is an accurate observation on the period of the multi-Popes. So perhaps you should tell us the comment you had an urge to make so we can see if, in fact, you were likely to start a flamewar.
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ISO9001 is about the control of R&D. The object of ISO9000 from start to finish is in fact that you design a product to meet a specification, manufacture it to that specification, and deal with customer problems. It is assumed that you want to stay in business, since no general standard can possibly cover whether your product is a good idea or not. To document hammering a square peg into a round hole you would need a specification that says, explicitly, that is what you are doing. I'm not going to deliver a lecture on ISO9000 because (a) nobody would read it and (b) I used to get paid for implementing it and I see no reason to tell people for free what I got paid for. But I will say this; I was once in a conversation at a conference with some German engineers, and a British colleague asked one of them if he had a BMW. To which he got the reply "No, I have an Opel. Because Opel and Ford understand quality. But Mercedes and BMW just have lots of technicians to fix the things that go wrong." (He was referring to German Ford and Opel.) Implementing ISO9001 properly in a software environment isn't actually difficult because all the standard toolchains adhere to it. If you follow a methodology of reviews, walkthroughs, good discipline on checking in and out and merging, test and QA - that is ISO9000. My own perception over the years is that a lot of American engineers and managements resent something that has NIH written all over it - but what actually happened was that people like Deming got little traction in the US whereas their ideas were taken up in Europe and Japan, and then came back to the US again - after their application by the Japanese had led to the Japanese manufacturing boom.
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So... This was the free one? Or just a sampler? :trollface: 😊
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My comment was a sort of desperately inadequate joke about the standard examples of "tautologically" true statements, notably the example of the Pope, and his state of religion. My desperately inadequate joke was the some people would say that there isn't even a Pope at the moment, and (by a sort of extension), that the individual currently called the Pope by the majority is an imposter, and possibly even a heretic and therefore not really a Catholic.
As I said, a desperately inadequate joke, because it requires too much intelligence on the part of the listener. There. I think I've managed to insult the entire readership of this forum. Is there a badge for that?
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Ah, but they'd be claiming that there isn't a Pope, not that the Pope is not Catholic. Totally different things.
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It's also "a waste of time" and "getting in the way of getting work done" and "pointless bureaucracy" if you ask my devs. :trolleybus:
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Sounds like I said they'd say he isn't the Pope ("an imposter"), and the the so-called Pope ("the individual currently called the Pope by the majority") might even not be Catholic because, as a potential "heretic", he is espousing something that is not Catholicism...
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But some people learn more nothing from it than others.
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Not really under either of those categories.
Pass. I'm not going to start a flamewar in the interest of determining if I would have started a flameware.
Trying not to start one. I had a comment I could easily make regarding the popes that would likely start a debate which could easily escalate into a religious flameware.
FTFY
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At the place I work at now, I've crossed swords with three psychopaths in the last 7 years (not my boss, she's actually awesome to work for most days). Two of them only once each, the remaining one was a piece of work.
That one, I warned upper management that he was trouble as I caught him in several lies. I also was able to demonstrate my "failures" in delivering to his requirements were due to his :moving_goal_post: shenanigans (e.g., here's an obvious one: order 10 laptops per his email of hiring 10 new staff for his department, then the following week: "where are my 25 laptops? I need all these people WORKING RIGHT NOW!" (Side note: shenanigans. Love that word.) I wasn't taken seriously at the time; one executive brushed it off as he had a different "management style".
Vindication (sort of) came within six months, as by then he had pissed off every department head in the company for similar reasons.
None of those psychopaths work here today. :laughing:
We have our challenges here, granted (who doesn't?) But I stay because I do see improvements given enough time, and I know most other places are much worse!
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And now they work for the government....
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That sounds like most politicians in
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But (apparently) darned few read Golding. Substitute "Conch shell" for "Talking pillow" and you have "Lord of the Flies," including its inevitable finale.
{Edit} - Sorry, reading the subject of the 7 am meeting, I'm changing it to "Lord of the Files" - can't stop myself when there's a good pun to be had.
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That's only because the big government advocates aren't educated enough to understand it. So they allow it to be read.
If not, it would be burnt along with Catcher in the Rye.
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i read that as "Catheter in the Rye" and winced.......
my brain is weird.
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Yeah, because you can't get Catcher in the Rye anywhere. And they shoot you on sight if you're seen carrying it.
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When I think about rye and areas catheters may be involved in I think of whiskey, why the wincing?
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Orwell was just too subtle...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2014/05/01/msnbcs-krystal-ball-actually-cites-animal-farm-tale-capitalist-greed
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You aren't the only one. I had to read it three times to see what @xaade really typed.
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it's good to have company. ;-)
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That's because everything is subjective and they can't turn it off.
That's like the guy that said that the Game of Thrones was about Global Warming.
This is what the "interpretation of art" has gotten us. No concern for what the author or artist intended.
Lately I've read that it doesn't matter what the artist intended, the interpretation belongs to you.
Subjective everything is just ruining our ability to understand, communicate, and discover truth in reality.
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It's missing one character... my god.
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it's not what's missing so much as where it's missing
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By the sound of it, you tell them something different.
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It's only that when your agile team is almost 20 members.... and kickoff is 3 hours and standups are over an hour.
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If I thought QA was a waste of time I wouldn't be a very good QA guru now would I?
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Customers aren't willing to pay for you.
They're happy to keep swapping bad suppliers and wonder what the problem is.
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No, they are paid by the government. Psychopaths work only for themselves.
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You're talking about a different topic than I am. Do keep up.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSVxV6W99E8
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I wonder why a 20 member agile team, spending 20% of their time on daily meetings, has no time for reviews and walkthroughs and good discipline.
I know that might not be your teams, but I'm mostly venting right now.
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Indeed, if there is no Pope the content of the papacy is null, and it is meaningless to say that null is (or is not) a Catholic, because null cannot have attributes.
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You're the only one talking about that, you tell me.
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Catholics are good at projecting their beliefs unto nonexistent systems, so I'm sure they can apply attributes to null.
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I was attempting to add clarification in case your post was read by the sort of dev who would pass it round the office saying "See? Other people think it's all a waste of time too!"
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Not in any database schema I have a hand in.
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Rational people recognize that they just made a memory access violation.
But sometimes it goes on for years, because the exceptions are being swallowed.
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Yes, I, too, quite like the weather we're having lately - it makes the tigers ripen so well.
Filed under: That's what you meant right?
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Only if global warming is due to dragonfire. Just sayin'…
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Nah, it's clearly an attribute defined at the class level, even though it would actually be an attribute of the instances of the class. The fact that there's no instances right now doesn't invalidate the fact that any valid instance would have the property by definition.
Though obviously the papacy must be a nullable reference. Catholicism is obviously not written in C++11
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From what I have been told by Catholics, it's written in brainf__k. Which isn't object oriented.
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Good thing, because that was certain to get you a whoosh :badger: :)
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Blame Discourse freezing after the bloody post and me not being presented the remainder. I swear, I should've known something was up when the bloody post count in the bottom went cuckoo.