• (disco) in reply to JBert
    No more chrome!

    Holy shitting-fuck.

    JBert:
    Oh no, seems my Firefox and Internet Explorer 11 installs also have hacker tools!

    Yeah, I'd be sending screenshots up the company org chart with that all over them, then using chrome anyway, while just telling the non-technicals I totally wasn't.

    Automating tests and hiding the results would be much harder given the time that goes into them. It would be easier to get passive-aggressive about the lack of automated tests when anyone mentioned the software was unreliable, but then that could be because I spent a stressful month having to refactor e2e tests after no handover because the company wouldn't let the other frontend dev tell me he was leaving until 2 days beforehand.

  • (disco)
    PleegWat:
    You're going to have a problem when they get a job interviewee who does require assistive technologies.

    As it happens, I know that that's really unlikely. We've filled all the posts and it's the nature of the jobs that they need both visual acuity and manual dexterity (it's a research lab and they're dealing with small bacterial colonies that change colour). Those are also relevant skills when dealing with interacting with a web application.

    I really do know my users.

  • (disco)
    flabdablet:
    And this uniting against the common enemy business is why Australians tend not to want to shoot each other.

    I think that means you guys are morally bankrupt or something.

  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla

    TDEMSYamerican.

  • (disco) in reply to flabdablet
    flabdablet:
    TDEMSYamerican.

    You'll have to talk to your fellow limey @sam about that. It's not my rule.

  • (disco)
    flabdablet:
    That's the British! I'm Australian, you fucken racist.

    No, I'm pretty sure you're both from New Zealand.

  • (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    i have seen some utter abominations that sought to obfuscate the HTML as much as possible.....

    Angular; Ember; React; ...

  • (disco)
    Arantor:
    people like me who run Ghostery and find surprising amounts of the web broken

    I currently have an IE window open because a certain nationwide temporary employment agency's "Find an office" page wouldn't work in Chrome with Ghostery and Adblock Plus running. No indication that something it needed was blocked or disabled, just infinite loading spinner. (I don't know whether the problem is Chrome or one of the plug-ins, and opening IE is easier than troubleshooting.)

  • (disco)
    CatPlusPlus:
    Vast majority of websites doesn't and shouldn't need 10MB of jabbascript to work properly.

    I agree. That's a lot.

    CatPlusPlus:
    But no, we gotta make it 100% React because we have 3 XHR calls across the entire site, and infiniscrolls...

    I'm assuming your issue is with jQuery as well, or with XHR calls in general, or infiniscrolls, because none of that requires a SPA. Admittedly if that's the style of the site, a SPA is probably easier architecturally.

  • (disco)

    I should have read this entire topic before replying, didn't see it became a flame war. I don't because it's annoying to scroll on mobile discourse.

  • (disco)
    Arantor:
    In fact I can still deliver Doing It Right faster than most of my colleagues can even when they are :doing_it_wrong:

    Anything that requires all your coworkers to be better than your average developer is gonna fail.

    Why change the world when you can change your mind?
  • (disco)

    100 posts were split to a new topic: :fire: Is a SPA a website?

  • (disco)

    @RaceproUK @FrostCat and all others involved: This is an article topic. Next time pre-emptively take that shit elsewhere so I don't have to jeff it.

  • (disco)

    This brings back a huge WTF.

    QA Manager reported an error, she logged in as User A and were seeing other accounts information! Bug filed directly to CSO! Fireworks, bombs, meetings called, this was a huge issue!

    What were the steps to reproduce? There weren't any, only that somehow the QA environment had gotten into this state. I start digging, trying to reproduce, interviewing people, and QA manager. Eventually I got a clue, one of my engineers overhead one of the QA engineers say that some SQL was involved.

    I talk to QA Manager, she admits that she did, as the root user on her instance of MySQL;

     UPDATE products SET user='b' WHERE user = 'a'
    

    Still, she claims this was a huge bug, as user b, I should never see User A's stuff. The CSO Agreed, there needs to be something else in products that would show user B owned it.

    My point, 'Well, if you had SQL acesss, couldn't you just do';

     SELECT * FROM products
    

    and get at every user's list of products? No love, so "I'll file a bug, we'll get to it when we have time." I resigned a few weeks later.

  • (disco) in reply to johnboysf

    Wait... why the fuck does the QA Manager have root access to the database environment? Where the hell are those DB admins?

    Such an environment is TRWTF.

  • Twitch (unregistered) in reply to CatPlusPlus

    hahahahahahaha i was thinking that

  • scragar (unregistered) in reply to JBert

    Maybe they should check the user agent so that only Links is allowed.

    That won't do, links allows you to switch the document into plain text mode exposing the html by pressing the full stop key.

    They should advocate for the usage of w3m, that doesn't support viewing the source code of a page, you'd have to save it out then view it in a different program.

  • Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to JBert

    Or wget. Apparently that was the hacking tool used by Edward Snowden to leak documents from the NSA.

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