• (cs) in reply to JJ
    JJ:
    SenTree:
    So, Seth, do you work for -------- -------- or just do business with them ?

    Ed: Redacted... accidently left that in the screenshot!

    No need to redact anything. A little bit of investigation tells me that Seth works for Great Bay Software, had a sister who died in an automobile accident in 1999 when she was 21, and another sister (one of a set of twins, actually) who wrecked his 2001 Pontiac sedan on December 5, 2002.

    I know, it's creepy isn't it.

    Congratulation sir, Now try thine internet detective skills on me. I'd actually be interested to see what you come up with.

  • (cs) in reply to Acrobat Jane
    Acrobat Jane:
    Brian K:
    Actually, I submitted the picture towards the end of 2008 (can't remember the exact date) shortly after buying the cereal. The cereal tasted completely normal so I am positive that it was not "Better If Used Before" some time in 2007.

    Best before dates are often lies. Many times I've eaten things past the date and only got food poisoning a couple of times. I've also had properly stored food stuffs go bad before the expiry date. Of course I was able to take it back and exchange it, but what if it was in a nuclear bunker and it's the apocalypse?! What then? Starve!?!

    I tend to avoid things close to their expiration date. I've had some bad experiences. I would also probably starve to death in your nuclear holacaust scenario. I have an IRON RESOLVE.. when it comes to my principles...

  • Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to Paolo G
    Paolo G:
    Are you sure about that? Are you sure it's not

    _Gv#dOI|w#WeNGNli:cRpmQL:xkZW&- ?

    The real WTF is that the password is displayed in a sans serif font, so "l" (lower-case 12th letter of the alphabet) looks identical to "I" (upper-case 9th letter of the alphabet).

    Yes, I'm sure. The font is Tahoma which clearly differentiates I (upper-case eye) and l (lower-case ell). Good point though. The additonal vertical bar (|) confuses the matter a bit as well.

  • (cs) in reply to Maurits
    Maurits:
    What the Frag?:
    the real WTF is that you cannot copy + paste from windows dialog boxes

    Dialog box: Ctrl-C. Notepad: Ctrl-V.

    Won't work unless there's a text box on the dialog. The picture's got a MessageBox.

  • mauhiz (unregistered)

    Bwahaha Mr Postgres Installer, now I know your password (and I wrote it down). I'm right on to hacking your internets, beware!

  • Acrobat Jane (unregistered) in reply to JamesQMurphy
    JamesQMurphy:
    Maurits:
    What the Frag?:
    the real WTF is that you cannot copy + paste from windows dialog boxes

    Dialog box: Ctrl-C. Notepad: Ctrl-V.

    Won't work unless there's a text box on the dialog. The picture's got a MessageBox.

    No really, it does, this comment was correct:

    Of course you can. At least form the standard MessageBox(Ex). Just hit Ctrl-C, and the whole message box (title, text and buttons) will be in you clipboard.
  • moshbox (unregistered) in reply to Acrobat Jane
    Acrobat Jane:
    JamesQMurphy:
    Maurits:
    What the Frag?:
    the real WTF is that you cannot copy + paste from windows dialog boxes

    Dialog box: Ctrl-C. Notepad: Ctrl-V.

    Won't work unless there's a text box on the dialog. The picture's got a MessageBox.

    No really, it does, this comment was correct:

    Of course you can. At least form the standard MessageBox(Ex). Just hit Ctrl-C, and the whole message box (title, text and buttons) will be in you clipboard.

    I just tried on a software updater countdown timer that's been annoying me all morning, and only get the windows error 'thunk'

  • Acrobat Jane (unregistered) in reply to Acrobat Jane

    e.g.

    Notepad

    The text in the Untitled file has changed.

    Do you want to save the changes?

    Yes No Cancel

    Sorry for the double post, I had to go and find a windows machine :p. It is true it doesn't work for every dialog box though.

  • JJ (unregistered) in reply to galgorah
    galgorah:
    Congratulation sir, Now try thine internet detective skills on me. I'd actually be interested to see what you come up with.

    It appears your name is Brandon Leach, you are a 27 year old photographer, and live in Roslindale, Massachusetts. Your cell phone number ends in 2501 (I won't post the whole number for your privacy.). You are a single, male, 6' 2" tall Capricorn, enjoy drinking, partying, and listening to metal. You have also toured with toured with KMFDM, acumen nation, and bella morte.

    In 2006, you were had no health insurance and would rather pay fines for it than pay for the insurance. Your parents are Michael & Diane. You had a sister (possibly foster sister) who passed away of cancer a little over a month ago. (Sorry about your loss)

    How's that for 15 minutes of work?

  • neveralull (unregistered)

    double markdown(int listPrice) { // This comment is a little out of place // This comment expires 07149APC // This comment is not valid - do not slug it // This comment is undefined // This comment contains random password // _Gv#dO|w#WeNGNI:cRmmpmQL:xKZW& // Make sure you write it down const double discount = 0.25; return listPrice * (1.0 - discount); }

    double newPrice = markdown(1575);

  • (cs) in reply to Acrobat Jane
    Acrobat Jane:
    Best before dates are often lies.
    No, best before means just that. The food should be at its best, in terms of taste and/or nutritional value, before that date. It may well still be safe to eat for some time afterwards; shops are allowed to sell food past a 'best before'.

    Use by, however, is more serious: consumption after that date has a reasonable risk of causing illness.

    'Display until' means it can't be sold after that date. If present, it's usually a couple of days before other dates, though in products that advertise a freshness duration (eg some bread) it will normally be that duration before. Fruit and veg often has only 'display until'.

    Both dates are generally on the cautious side, for public safety and to avoid getting sued. Despite that, of course things sometimes go off sooner, for various reasons (packaging damage is a common one). You should be able to get a replacement on food that's in-date but off, and if you're made ill by it the retailer is liable.

    Ultimately, you should use your own judgment, but be guided by the dates and your knowledge of how hazardous things are.

    Note: IANAL, the preceding is based on England.

    As an aside - bread goes stale more quickly in the fridge. Mould growth is slowed, but staling is a separate, non-biological process.

  • Worf (unregistered) in reply to Acrobat Jane
    Acrobat Jane:
    Sorry for the double post, I had to go and find a windows machine :p. It is true it doesn't work for every dialog box though.

    It only works if the application calls MessageBox(Ex), rather than create their own DialogBox or window. In the latter two cases, the app handles Ctrl-C. In the former case, MessageBox(Ex) has its own message loop and dialog handlers, and Microsoft helpfully made Ctrl-C actually work on it.

    The hard part is figuring out which windows are really MessageBox(Ex)s and which are application-done boxes.

  • Sork (unregistered) in reply to anon
    anon:
    Paolo G:
    The real WTF is that the password is displayed in a sans serif font, so "l" (lower-case 12th letter of the alphabet) looks identical to "I" (upper-case 9th letter of the alphabet).
    Depending on font, resolution and sight, you may be able to spot a tiny difference in spacing or height.

    Only if you have some reference, some sentences on screen which use both. I recently got a generated password for the Windows 7 HomeGroup I created which had an "I" which I first mistook for "l". It is a beta of course.

  • John (unregistered)

    Tracy must not have 2-6yo kids. Thomas & Co. certainly give me nightmares...

  • Jeff (unregistered)

    Odd how the 'classic' movies include nothing from before 2005...and how it includes such movies as 'The Quick and the Undead'.

    That's 'classic' in about the same way as watching a ten-year-old hit his dad in the jewels on 'Funniest' Home Video shows.

  • n (unregistered) in reply to Worf
    Worf:
    Acrobat Jane:
    Sorry for the double post, I had to go and find a windows machine :p. It is true it doesn't work for every dialog box though.

    It only works if the application calls MessageBox(Ex), rather than create their own DialogBox or window. In the latter two cases, the app handles Ctrl-C. In the former case, MessageBox(Ex) has its own message loop and dialog handlers, and Microsoft helpfully made Ctrl-C actually work on it.

    The hard part is figuring out which windows are really MessageBox(Ex)s and which are application-done boxes.

    Ya, the joys of developers not using or knowing about standard features of an API and would rather invent something themselves.

  • Candlejack (unregistered) in reply to JJ
    JJ:
    SenTree:
    So, Seth, do you work for -------- -------- or just do business with them ?

    Ed: Redacted... accidently left that in the screenshot!

    No need to redact anything. A little bit of investigation tells me that Seth works for Great Bay Software, had a sister who died in an automobile accident in 1999 when she was 21, and another sister (one of a set of twins, actually) who wrecked his 2001 Pontiac sedan on December 5, 2002.

    I know, it's creepy isn't it.

    Actually, what's really creepy is that I'm watching you as you type that, and you don't know it.

    goes to get more rope

  • John Doe (unregistered) in reply to JJ
    JJ:
    galgorah:
    Congratulation sir, Now try thine internet detective skills on me. I'd actually be interested to see what you come up with.

    It appears your name is Brandon Leach, you are a 27 year old photographer, and live in Roslindale, Massachusetts. Your cell phone number ends in 2501 (I won't post the whole number for your privacy.). You are a single, male, 6' 2" tall Capricorn, enjoy drinking, partying, and listening to metal. You have also toured with toured with KMFDM, acumen nation, and bella morte.

    In 2006, you were had no health insurance and would rather pay fines for it than pay for the insurance. Your parents are Michael & Diane. You had a sister (possibly foster sister) who passed away of cancer a little over a month ago. (Sorry about your loss)

    How's that for 15 minutes of work?

    Not bad. Now see what you can find out about me!
  • nonpartisan (unregistered) in reply to Acrobat Jane
    Acrobat Jane:
    Brian K:
    Actually, I submitted the picture towards the end of 2008 (can't remember the exact date) shortly after buying the cereal. The cereal tasted completely normal so I am positive that it was not "Better If Used Before" some time in 2007.

    Best before dates are often lies. Many times I've eaten things past the date and only got food poisoning a couple of times. I've also had properly stored food stuffs go bad before the expiry date. Of course I was able to take it back and exchange it, but what if it was in a nuclear bunker and it's the apocalypse?! What then? Starve!?!

    You pick something different. If that's your last, well, you got bigger problems.

  • Wyrd (unregistered) in reply to Mihai
    Mihai:
    APC should be "After Packaging Date". 7149 days equates to about 19 years 7 months - not unheard of when dealing with dried cereal.
    Okay.

    Except APC doesn't have a "D" in it for Date, and what good would it do me to know that the product is safe for 7149 days after the packaged date if I don't know what the packaged date was?

    Furry cows moo and decompress.

  • sli (unregistered)

    TRWTF is that those expiration dates are actually a ridiculously confusing code system that stand for real dates.

  • Sork (unregistered) in reply to sli
    sli:
    TRWTF is that those expiration dates are actually a ridiculously confusing code system that stand for real dates.

    Not really. The codes are adapted for the machines which have replaced man by the time the product expires.

  • ThomasTheTankEngine (unregistered) in reply to amischiefr
    amischiefr:
    I don't know about you guys, but Thomas the train scares the shit out of me!! Not as much as Barney, but still...

    Poor soul, your life must be terrible, being scared of such things. God alone knows what would happen if someone were to say 'boo' to you.

  • (cs) in reply to nonpartisan
    nonpartisan:
    Acrobat Jane:
    Best before dates are often lies. Many times I've eaten things past the date and only got food poisoning a couple of times. I've also had properly stored food stuffs go bad before the expiry date. Of course I was able to take it back and exchange it, but what if it was in a nuclear bunker and it's the apocalypse?! What then? Starve!?!
    You pick something different. If that's your last, well, you got bigger problems.
    He could always come out of the bunker and eat mutated zombies.

    Oh, wait, that works the other way around, doesn't it. Nevermind.

  • Your Name (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous
    *sniff*...

    I'd eat it...

    *sniff*...

    I'd hit it...

  • Herby (unregistered)

    On expiration dates:

    Just ifnore them. Follow the general rule:

    If is it supposed to be "crisp" and it is "soft", reject. If it is supposed to be "soft" and is "crisp", reject as well.

    As always, your nose is your friend. If it smells bad, reject really fast. If you see bugs, run! These are usually the extreme from the first rule.

    As always: YMMV, SSFD, MSRP, etc..

  • (cs) in reply to Code Dependent
    Code Dependent:
    nonpartisan:
    Acrobat Jane:
    Best before dates are often lies. Many times I've eaten things past the date and only got food poisoning a couple of times. I've also had properly stored food stuffs go bad before the expiry date. Of course I was able to take it back and exchange it, but what if it was in a nuclear bunker and it's the apocalypse?! What then? Starve!?!
    You pick something different. If that's your last, well, you got bigger problems.
    He could always come out of the bunker and eat mutated zombies.

    Oh, wait, that works the other way around, doesn't it. Nevermind.

    Think of those poor cute little mutated zombies, won't you? They like their food fresh from the store-cellar too.

  • (cs) in reply to dkf
    dkf:
    Code Dependent:
    He could always come out of the bunker and eat mutated zombies.

    Oh, wait, that works the other way around, doesn't it. Nevermind.

    Think of those poor cute little mutated zombies, won't you? They like their food fresh from the store-cellar too.
    A zombie stumbled into a management meeting; he starved ...

  • Nobody (unregistered) in reply to Herby
    Herby:
    As always, your nose is your friend. If it smells bad, reject really fast.

    Yes but some people, like my Dad, are anosmic(have no sense of smell). To make it worse people who have ansomia typically have a greatly diminished sense of taste as well. I've seen my Dad chug milk that would make a Crocodile throw up.

    He compensates for it with a byzantine dating and rotation system that he invented when he was a teenager. In other words he has been dating perishables of all types since long before companies were required to do so.

  • (cs) in reply to Nobody
    Nobody:
    In other words he has been dating perishables of all types since long before companies were required to do so.
    I've dated perishables of all types, too, although I must admit some of them came across more like rocks.
  • (cs) in reply to Sork
    Sork:
    Only if you have some reference, some sentences on screen which use both. I recently got a generated password for the Windows 7 HomeGroup I created which had an "I" which I first mistook for "l". It is a beta of course.
    Come on: either it's an I or it's a beta, but it can't be both.
  • Loren Pechtel (unregistered)

    Why doesn't it belong?

    That's a ghost train. My impression is that ghosts move by levitation. Trains don't have any means of steering as they are guided by the tracks but a levitating train won't be thus guided.

    Thus we have a runaway train wandering around not on the train tracks. Sounds like a horror to me!

  • Captain Oblivious (unregistered) in reply to Jeff
    Jeff:
    Odd how the 'classic' movies include nothing from before 2005...and how it includes such movies as 'The Quick and the Undead'.

    That's 'classic' in about the same way as watching a ten-year-old hit his dad in the jewels on 'Funniest' Home Video shows.

    LAWL I saw that one too! The kid swings the bat, and the ball hits his dad's! Fucken classic.

  • Boomer (unregistered) in reply to scott
    scott:
    This type of expiration date marking is very common lately. This one isn't that hard to guess, 07149APC, would be July 14 2009. Not sure what the APC is though. Some companies use numbers and letters and you have to decifer them on their website. Some folks like Vitamin Water I've yet to figure out.

    Hey companies, if I can't quickly figure out the expiration date, I'm not buying your product!

    I actually had to deal with this a lot at my former job. Vitamin water is is a combo of date/time/mfg location. Dont remember the exact combo as I didn't bring any of the data with me. I just kept each company/type in a excel file if it was something odd.

    I really liked when the reps didn't even know how to read the dates and codes!!!

  • gumby (unregistered)

    I think the idea is that the cereal is better if you eat it all before you start easting cereal from bag serial number 07149APC. Fine, wait 20 years if you like, but still, it would be "better" if you finish this bag first. Oh and don't try to eat them out of order!

    And let's hope the set of "better before" labels form a true DAG. I'm not sure what the semantics of a cycle would be nor do I know if it could be cerealized.

  • Anon (unregistered)

    Err 25% off $1575 does equal $1181.25. So it is a stupidly expensive top but I'm sure someone will buy it.

    Where is the WTF ?

  • (cs)

    I think the date 07149APC refers to something similar to the year "5.5 slash apple slash 26" .... five billion years in the future, for those familiar with Doctor Who. Mmmmhh, it would even fit the taste.

  • What (unregistered) in reply to relaxing

    One of these days, Enter Key. Bang! Zoom! Straight to the other side of the room!

  • Topscore (unregistered)

    I think there's an English language WTF here - 'Better if used before'...what's wrong with 'Best Before'?

  • (cs) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    Err 25% off $1575 does equal $1181.25. So it is a stupidly expensive top but I'm sure someone will buy it.

    Where is the WTF ?

    Oh, and you were so close...

  • OrangeYoda (unregistered)

    Anyone with a young child will not get the first one, I constantly have nightmares about watching Thomas for the 400th time since sunday.

  • Rhialto (unregistered) in reply to m0ffx
    m0ffx:
    Note: IANAL, the preceding is based on England.

    As an aside - bread goes stale more quickly in the fridge. Mould growth is slowed, but staling is a separate, non-biological process.

    British bread is crap anyway. It is much too wet (probably because everybody toasts it; and you have to toast it because it is too wet), and therefore grows moldy (mouldy? this spelling checker is US unfortunately) a lot quicker than the Dutch bread I'm used to.

  • (cs) in reply to Brian K
    Brian K:
    Actually, I submitted the picture towards the end of 2008 (can't remember the exact date) shortly after buying the cereal. The cereal tasted completely normal so I am positive that it was not "Better If Used Before" some time in 2007.
    I'm pretty sure that it is: 07 14 09 (MMDDYY), and that the code they're using to generate the date never expected the two digit year to need a leading 0.

    The other explanations around here all seem overly-complicated to me.

  • Acrobat Jane (unregistered) in reply to Rhialto
    Rhialto:
    British bread is crap anyway. It is much too wet (probably because everybody toasts it; and you have to toast it because it is too wet), and therefore grows moldy (mouldy? this spelling checker is US unfortunately) a lot quicker than the Dutch bread I'm used to.

    I really like our bread, toasted or not. Bread won't last more than a few days round me anyway so it doesn't get time to go mouldy. I don't like that dried out continental bread as much. I don't recall if it is the same as Dutch bread, when I was in Holland some of your other produce made me forget what the bread was like (and what I was supposed to be doing).

  • SurturZ (unregistered)

    Don't be so sure... Percy's Ghostly Trick scared the bejeezus out of my three year old and he still has nightmares. If only I'd seen the Amazon review of it before I let him watch it....

  • TB (unregistered)

    Sean,

    Do you by any chance work for a video production company. The only time I've heard the term "slug" used was when I was programming video archives for the likes of news production companies.

    IIRC, to "slug" a video meant essentially assigning a short name to it.

    JoAnn

  • Sean (unregistered)
    Gabor:
    "I encountered this while installing postgres 8.3.3-2," writes Gabor Farkas , "I doubt I'll remember where I put this password, so hopefully I'll find it on TDWTF should I need it later."

    I've got the same password on my luggage!

  • Nobody (unregistered) in reply to Alfred

    Actually, you're both wrong. And everyone else who tried to say what it was, well, you're wrong too. It's REALLY the year 7149 in the Hebrew calender--so it will expire some time in the year 4000 CE.

  • (cs)

    My brother used to take R rated files and + and place them in the children's section... It was funny because the children's section had a large castle wall (prop thing) around it... Ah west coast videos. That was awhile back.

  • fak3r (unregistered)

    I've had this before too, check this shot with books about Security Hacks, Secure Architectures with OpenBSD and Linux Server Hacks...oh, and Dora The Explorer!

    http://www.fak3r.com/2006/11/06/you-might-be-a-geek-if/

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