• Miriam (unregistered)

    Yup, Community Server comments still work!

    P.S. Why in the world is someone selling german cat food for british money and advertising it with american robots?

  • (cs)

    Well, I guess the "error rate" refers to the graph itself.

  • Miriam (unregistered) in reply to cheapie

    Shouldn't the part with the loop-dee-loop have the highest error rate and the rest near-zero in that case?

    Also, welcome to the flipside!

  • (cs) in reply to Miriam
    Miriam:
    Shouldn't the part with the loop-dee-loop have the highest error rate and the rest near-zero in that case?

    But the loop IS an error, so it's not showing the correct value.

    Also, I'm surprised that there isn't more activity here.

    Addendum (2014-05-30 10:06): (on a more serious note, somebody on the horribly broken wall of text thing mentioned that the graph might have been produced during the DST changeover, which would explain the loop)

  • (disco)

    Oh good God - what has happened!!!!

    This is hideous!

  • the beholder (unregistered)

    I'm just here to mention that I never thought I would be glad to see a forum page in Community Server.

    To Alex and whoever may influence the decision as to whether to switch forums or not, I wanna add my voice to those that say that Discourse aberration should be taken behind the barn and shot. Eight times. With a bazooka.

  • (disco) in reply to GettinSadda

    "We won't have this for every article for now"

    Please don't have it for any article. It's ugly and weird, and has strange handling of lines all in quotes. When I had no blank line below the quote, it appears naked with its quotes. When I added a blank line, it appeared with the grey highlight and without the quotes. That's severely obscure.

    Just Say No.

  • (disco) in reply to Steve_The_Cynic

    And now it tells me that I'm looking at "13 of 3". WTF, guys?

  • (disco)

    WTF? I can't log in. Ok, probably forgot the password. Request a new one. No password arrives. Turns out the account I had at TDWTF seems not to have survived the transition to this hideous new comment board... :-(

    Anonymous posting? Seems a thing of the past now.

    And it took a while to post this comment, too - [+reply] is not the most intuitive way to add a button that used to be "add comment".

    I wouldn't be surprised at all if TDWTF will be inundated in the next few days with wtf submissions - concerning the DWTF site.

  • (disco)

    So when you "reply" to somebody else's post, from now on you have to copy & paste what they have been saying because the old "quote" functionality seems to be missing? Lame. Really, really lame.

  • anonymous (unregistered)

    Sweet, this page does exist. Time to go update my Greasemonkey script so it sends me here by default.

  • (disco) in reply to Steve_The_Cynic
    Steve_The_Cynic:
    "We won't have this for every article for now"

    Please don't have it for any article.

    Full Ack.

    Ok, I have found the quote functionality. We are WYSIWYG now with nifty icons...

  • (disco)

    Seriously, folks? "NEW USERS ARE LIMITED TO THREE POSTS PER TOPIC FOR NOW"

    This is ridiculous. This new comment section is the biggest wtf I have encountered on TDWTF for a very long time.

  • (disco)
    the comment editor box says:
    Type here. Use Markdown or BBCode to format

    In your dreams.

  • (disco)
    Steve_The_Cynic:
    Please don't have it for any article.

    I agree. This is bizzare. Like someone went to design school, punched the teacher, stole the textbooks and then did everything in the "never design like this" section.

    faoileag:
    We are WYSIWYG now with nifty icons...

    Yeah. And boxes for replies that cover up the freaking comment you clicked the reply button on... WTF?!?! Oh, and the spastic "what you see is half the screen width of what you get" setup with the code next to the rough estimate box.

    2 more WTFs - if a new post is made while reading and it updates to show it, the bloody page moves without warning. and I've also had that improper fraction "x of y" display like the system can't count properly and just guesses how many posts there are.

    The real WTF is this craphouse forum system.

    Edit: Oh and that effing annoying yellow popup when you start typing a post! My eyes! I'm using a 1920x1200 24" monitor, running my browser at about 3/4 of the screen, and the bloody page is filled with random boxes layered across the place. I'd hate to see this on a netbook.

  • (disco)
    GettinSadda:
    Oh good God - what has happened!!!!
    Steve_The_Cynic:
    Please don't have it for any article.
    faoileag:
    Full Ack.
    tin:
    I agree.
    In response to all the commenters so far, I'm just going to leave this here... http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/vote-of-no-confidence/270

    (And you're welcome for resetting your post limits.)

    On-topic: The New Relic chart looks like it might have occurred during the DST changeover, where it makes sense to have a loop-de-loop since (local) time is repeating itself. When it doesn't have a gigantic blank space next fall, that's a bug, though not nearly as WTF as this *non-bug *.

  • (disco)

    Way too much whitespace. White space is not chic per se, and this much is a waste of space.

    Anyway, I can probably guess what's up with the New Relic build chart: DST. Clock gets reset from 03:00 to 02:00. Doesn't explain why the number of bugs goes down, though, unless someone was working at that time, or the timezone is off.

  • (disco)
    the comment editor box says:
    Type here. Use Markdown or BBCode to format

    In your dreams.

  • (disco)

    Hmmm, I thought I had replaced the posted text with "this is a test"?

  • (disco)

    Third post after new login. Will there be a fourth?

  • (disco) in reply to GettinSadda
    GettinSadda:
    Oh good God - what has happened!!!!

    This is hideous!

    Hah! Welcome to our world :smile:

    Check the rest of the site to see how impressed the beta testers were...

  • (disco) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    Hmmm, I thought I had replaced the posted text with "this is a test"?

    Computer says no.

  • (disco)

    The whitespace and weird formatting has to be due to it being a stock Discourse install. I'm pretty sure Jeff Atwood of Coding Horror (@codinghorror) was behind Discourse (after doing Stack Exchange with Joel Spolsky), and the post comments on his site are formatted much more cleanly.

    My nice-to-have would be having the comments below the article (even a click-to-load-comments type link would be fine.) It's annoying to me to have the comments on a separate page from the article.

  • (disco) in reply to TwelveBaud
    TwelveBaud:
    The New Relic chart looks like it might have occurred during the DST changeover, where it makes sense to have a loop-de-loop since (local) time is repeating itself. When it doesn't have a gigantic blank space next fall, that's a bug, though not nearly as WTF as this _non-bug_.

    It is Error'd. Chucklesome though, especially as it is in the Error Rate… :smile:

  • (disco) in reply to TwelveBaud

    Its a very good illustration as to why your server timezone should always be set to UTC. Makes crontab editing less fraught with uncertainty too.

  • (disco)

    Where's the post anonymously feature?

    Fuck it... this layout is so ugly that I may not even bother to read the comments anymore.

  • (disco)

    Welcome to Discourse everyone, where we're declared the weird ones by developers themselves because all of the world loves Discourse except regular TDWTF posters and lurkers.

    ... and commenters it seems. Oh well..

    On topic: [image]

    PlantUML proudly (and in Comic Sans) proclaims it's "Open-Source tool to draw UML diagram in Java"

    Diagram... only one? And that one diagram involves a bombmaker?

    I approve

  • (disco)

    It look like the जनता is not happy.

  • (disco)

    Check out Larne Kate's open letter at: http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/im-a-grumpy-cat-an-open-letter-to-alex/407 -- if you've got an hour or two. Then follow-up by reading all the other posts against this change.

    I was, at first, dismayed that so many of the long-time members of this community were so against the change to Discourse. I read LK's letter with interest and then read (or tried to read) all the comments that followed. When I first started reading, it told me there were only 20 comments. By the time I finished, there were over 250 posts. Now, I a fast reader, but I don't think that many people were commenting that fast. The number of comments are now up to 350 or so, but you won't know that until you scroll all the way down and load every comment.

    I've come to agree with everything LorneKates, BlakeyRat, and others were saying about the site layout, the colors, and, most of all, the infinite scroll. I found it highly entertaining to see members who have always been on the opposite of almost every debate here on the DWTF agree on their hatred and disgust at the use of Discourse.

    Now, I've only submitted maybe a half-dozen or so comments in the last 5+ years I've been reading TDWTF. I'm a lurker at heart, I guess. ;^)

    But this time I'm adding my voice to the other, more vocal, long-time members: Alex, time to pull the plug on the change-over and start over with a different commenting system.

    I've been writing software for more than 2 decades and I've never seen any software succeed when the developers have the attitude towards users of their software that I've witnessed on the many discussion about the Beta test.

    I vote against this new system. It's design and entire philosophy, as so elequently documented by LK and others, is the antithesis of what we have come to expect and enjoy at TDWTF. Stop the changeover and redo your evaluation of possible successors to CS.

    Oh, and by the way -- clicking on the Daily WTF header at the top of the screen no longer takes you to the front page; it instead takes you to the articles page.

    Also, the URL in the address bar doesn't change when you change articles by clicking on one on that page. This makes it hard to collect a link URL.

  • (disco)

    I'm chuckling inside, even all the commenters who rarely ventured into the forums hate Discourse already.

  • (disco) in reply to GettinSadda

    Don't worry @GettinSadda, we have a super helpful FAQ Wopic and an brillant Markdown Wopic for you to wrap your head around things.

    Also, check Bug Reports if crazy things happen to your browser while you try and post - most of the more insane stuff is already documented there.

    Edit: fixed links so they go to the top of the Wopic instead of wherever I was last reading them (Thanks DIscourse!)


    Filed Under: I <3 Portmanteau

  • (disco) in reply to rad131304

    What's a wopic?

  • (disco) in reply to dhromed

    It's a wiki topic.

    Didn't you get the memo?

    You clearly haven't been keeping up with your job of reading every single post.

  • (disco)

    What else but:

    I have changed your discussion page. Pray I do not change it further.

  • (disco)

    The error rate one is obvious - the clocks went back.

    PS this looks hideous.

  • (disco)

    Well, I finally found just-create-a-reply button. OK, so this time my comment is on the lame X of Y doobrie at the bottom of the visible part of the page. On my current browser, in its current window, I can see three (3) (III) (trois) (0x03) (03) (0b11) posts when I am at the "top". The X of Y thing says "4 of 31". Post 4 is not visible. When I make even one pixel of post 4 visible, the X of Y thing starts saying "5 of 31", even though post 5 isn't visible at all, because in fact only the top one pixel of post 4 is visible.

    Who thought adopting this system was a good idea?

    And now the X of Y thing says "43 of 32". Well done. Or, rather, it did, then it didn't.

    Note: I'm not opposed to change in and of itself. What I'm opposed to is change merely for the sake of changing, without bothering to find out if the new thing isn't fatally(*) flawed.

    (*) This is hyperbole. Therac-25 really was fatally flawed - buggy software and defective hardware design killed three people. This Discourse thing is merely total rubbish.

  • (disco)

    Seems like after connecting directly to the cloud, the Black and White comments don't work the way I thought they did.

    (+1 vote for clasic/clbuttic comment system)

  • (disco)

    Holy crap, Discourse sucks! Surely anything has to be better than this! I come to TDWTF to READ about WTFs, not EXPERIENCE them directly!

  • (disco)

    Guys, we need one more user whose name starts with K, and then you need to get together and post in-order.

    You understand what I mean.

  • (disco) in reply to dhromed

    Damn it man! You shouldn't have posted! Maybe someone with a name starting with K would post and it would work out nicely.

    Scroll up a bit, you'll see it.

  • (disco)

    Never bothered to comment before but the comments about how bad it is now to comment have finally motivated me to comment. Also just to help the flow thought I'd register with a K. You're welcome!

  • (disco) in reply to dhromed
    dhromed:
    Guys, we need one more user whose name starts with K, and then you need to get together and post in-order.

    You understand what I mean.

    I should make myself about 26 sockpuppets for fun, profit and trolling random threads.


    Filed under: actually i'm too lazy

  • (disco)
  • (disco) in reply to Onyx
    Onyx:
    Welcome to Discourse everyone, where we're declared the weird ones by developers themselves because all of the world loves Discourse except regular TDWTF posters and lurkers.

    This is a car. If you want a truck, you can be shown to another lot.

  • (disco) in reply to Onyx

    I have helpfully flagged your post and dhromed's post so a moderator can remove the offensive combo-breaker.

  • (disco)

    Why the hell do I see replys like post and also under the replys.. this is really confused.. I totally forgot about the article now...

  • anonymous (unregistered)

    The paper comes out printed side down, so the real question is why they were printing on the back of an 8.5x11 photograph.

  • (disco) in reply to Gonzalob
    Gonzalob:
    I totally forgot about the article now...

    Some days that might be considered a positive thing ...

  • (disco)

    But now I have to log in to comment and I can't agree with whatever Morbs just said!

  • (disco) in reply to Gonzalob
    Gonzalob:
    Why the hell do I see replys like post and also under the replys

    Because you clicked the thing to open those replies. The "proper" position is at the end. It's for your convenience that they're also in a collapsible box with your post.

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