• Jadawin (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    Code Dependent:
    A quick, concise and appropriate answer is, "How long did it take Michelangelo to finish the sistine chapel?"
    I use a similar trick, except I ask my boss "how long did it take for Gaudi to finish the Sagrada Família?". One day he'll look it up and damn will he be pissed.

    He'll probably wait till you're hit by a tram to look it up.

  • Jason White (unregistered)

    Guy makes some pretty good sense to me dude!

    RT www.privacy-center.de.tc

  • Americium (unregistered) in reply to m0ffx
    m0ffx:
    Code Dependent:
    TB3:
    Then they printed out her version, and we did a line-by-line comparison of the two print-outs to find her typos.

    After the typos were corrected, the program was compiled...

    The compiler wouldn't show you the typos?

    Plenty of typos won't cause a compile error. Like mistakes in numeric values, or a typo in one variable name that changes it to another.

    TRWTF is why they didn't use OCR. FORTRAN's still widely used by scientists today, so OCR software should have been available.

    Many FORTRAN typos look like valid, but very different code. You don't want to tolerate typos.

    FORTRAN code allows IMPLICIT variable types based on the first letter, where most are REAL valued. Also, spaces are irrelevant. This allows a DO (FOR) loop to become an assignment, as follows.

    • Loop has a comma for 1 to 10. 10 DO K = 1,10 .. CONTINUE 10

    • Assignment has a decimal point.

    • REAL DOK is implied. 20 DO K = 1.10

  • ring-ring (unregistered)

    EIGHT. SIX. SEVEN. FIVE. THREE OH NII-EEE-III-INE

  • (cs) in reply to Basseq
    Basseq:
    TRWTF is that the software sounds pretty impressive. Why the stone-age response? Can I buy this company and make millions once I hire a couple recent CS grads?
    You're not cynical enough. If you read between the lines, I think it's hinting that the small company has sold them a pirated (or otherwise "knocked-off") copy of the larger company's product.

    Still, what can you expect from a kind of application that sounds like a belch?

  • Donkey Hotay (unregistered) in reply to amischiefr
    amischiefr:
    Al:
    TRWTF is posting the spoiler warning after the spoiler.

    My Big Fat Greek Wedding is ruined for me now...

    Don't waste 2 hours of your life, that movie sucks donkey dick anyway.

    perk This is relevant to my interests.

  • notme (unregistered) in reply to webhamster
    webhamster:
    kastein:
    Bob:
    TRWTF: WTF does "Being pinged" mean?
    It is a technical term misused by retarded manager types these days. As a result, it is slowly morphing into an equivalent term for an instant message conversation and makes me want to smack everyone who misuses it.

    Not just IM. I hear it reference to meetings ("I'll ping him offline after the meeting."), phone calls ("I don't know, let me ping her and find out."), messages ("I pinged her but she hasn't called back.") and basically any other mode of communication. It's bloody irritating.

    How do you think sonar engineers feel about us network types using the word in the way we do?

  • notme (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    Code Dependent:
    A quick, concise and appropriate answer is, "How long did it take Michelangelo to finish the sistine chapel?"
    I use a similar trick, except I ask my boss "how long did it take for Gaudi to finish the Sagrada Família?". One day he'll look it up and damn will he be pissed.

    Had to look that up as well. Funny thing, maybe it'll take as long as the Cologne Cathedral (started in 1164, finished in 1880).

  • Jeremy Friesner (unregistered)

    This reminds me of my summer job freshman year.... every morning, the printer on one side of the room would print out a tall stack of documents, and a team of us would split them up and spend the rest of the day entering their contents in on terminals on the other side of the room.

    It was like being part of a large, slow, lossy, wetware-based parallel cable.

    -Jeremy

  • gilhad (unregistered) in reply to Ken B
    Ken B:
    Daid:
    This isn't uncommon, my mother got a temp job doing something like this. She had to type over one database into another. As they where both access databases I just asked her to bring them over, and I did her 8 week job in 5 minutes.
    So, did you defraud the company and still charge for 8 weeks of work, or did you cause your mother to lose 8 weeks of paid work?

    I would charge for the negotiated price they offered (aka 8 weeks) knowing i gave them errorless work output at a price they stated. Maybe i would offer them next time to deliver it say 1 week sooner, if they want increase the price acordingly (let say to 120 % of previous amounth of $$$) (depending, it the data are needed in hurry, or they have a lot time for it)

    In that way is nobody shorted - they have high quality results (without typos) at negotiated time for negotiated price, I have good money and free time for being technically educated.

  • PaladinZ06 (unregistered) in reply to kastein
    kastein:
    Bob:
    TRWTF: WTF does "Being pinged" mean?
    It is a technical term misused by retarded manager types these days. As a result, it is slowly morphing into an equivalent term for an instant message conversation and makes me want to smack everyone who misuses it.
    nerfherder:
    'ping' refers to a common network command which is used to test that a device is on the network and communicating. Its name comes from an analogy to naval sonar, where a ping is send out and an echo is returned, measuring the distance to underwater objects. Ping is often used as a rudimentary troubleshooting tool to identify where issues in systems that involve a network originate. By 'pinging', a technician can quickly see if a server is on and functioning at a rudimentary level. It has entered common parlance as a term meaning "to check on".

    Wouldn't that meet the definition of quickly determining the status of a project or issue? Seems like I need to ping you via IM to determine how far along you are in understanding of common manager speak and your anger management classes.

  • (cs) in reply to notme
    notme:
    webhamster:
    kastein:
    Bob:
    TRWTF: WTF does "Being pinged" mean?
    It is a technical term misused by retarded manager types these days. As a result, it is slowly morphing into an equivalent term for an instant message conversation and makes me want to smack everyone who misuses it.

    Not just IM. I hear it reference to meetings ("I'll ping him offline after the meeting."), phone calls ("I don't know, let me ping her and find out."), messages ("I pinged her but she hasn't called back.") and basically any other mode of communication. It's bloody irritating.

    How do you think sonar engineers feel about us network types using the word in the way we do?

    ping   –verb (used without object)

    1. to produce a sharp sound like that of a bullet striking a sheet of metal.
  • Franz Kafka (unregistered) in reply to Ken B
    Ken B:
    Daid:
    This isn't uncommon, my mother got a temp job doing something like this. She had to type over one database into another. As they where both access databases I just asked her to bring them over, and I did her 8 week job in 5 minutes.
    So, did you defraud the company and still charge for 8 weeks of work, or did you cause your mother to lose 8 weeks of paid work?

    I'm conflicted: they offered the work as an 8 week job. If you can finish it in 5 minutes, what difference does it make? If I were the company, I'd pay the 8 week salary + 2 weeks for showing me how to do it again, then hire the person to do something else.

  • caecus (unregistered)

    Reminds me of when I caught a sysadmin copying a file from a Linux system to a Windows PC by copying and pasting the contents from a telnet window into wordpad. Then reversing the process to "copy" it back. Might have worked too if the line wrap hadn't bit him.

  • Neil (unregistered) in reply to Bob
    Bob:
    TRWTF: WTF does "Being pinged" mean?
    I thought the non-computer version of being pinged was to throw a paperclip into the next cubicle - if a paperclip comes back, then there is someone in there.
  • (cs) in reply to Neil
    Neil:
    Bob:
    TRWTF: WTF does "Being pinged" mean?
    I thought the non-computer version of being pinged was to throw a paperclip into the next cubicle - if a paperclip comes back, then there is someone in there.
    We use nerf finger rockets for that.
  • bobSaffer (unregistered) in reply to fungus

    We've got free "please call me's" for that on my network. *100#other_guys_number# and the other guy gets an sms saying "please call your_number"

    presto!

  • 01001001011101000010011101110011001000000110110101100101 (unregistered) in reply to Code Dependent
    Code Dependent:
    Pickle Pumpers:
    I can't tell you how much it annoys me to be asked, "How much longer?" I hate it so much I quit a job when my boss, for the last time, asked me, "When will it be fixed?" I packed my stuff up and walked out.
    A quick, concise and appropriate answer is, "How long did it take Michelangelo to finish the sistine chapel?"

    Not only does it convey your own sense of your worth and that of your work; it references the answer your boss needs. Check it out (first paragraph).

    When will you make an end?

    Yeah, except you're not Michelangelo, and you're not painting the Sistine Chapel, you're a two-bit code monkey hacking away at some dismal software project....

    In the real world, it's called a sizing people. Managers expect them, and developers who cannot provide them suck at their jobs..... In the real world managers have to answer to budgets and time lines, your project has dependencies and is a dependency on other projects.... Saying it'll be done when it's done is a cop-out and shows you really have no idea what you're doing.

    Do we face unknowns? Do we run into unanticipated problems? Sure that's why our sizings allow for some room to account for those issues, and further we have status reports (be it a daily scrum, daily reports, weekly reports, what-have-you) where we can raise issues to management and adjust our sizing accordingly.

    Now sure, if you tell your manager you'll be done in a week, and he's back the next day asking if you're done yet, guy's an idiot, but come on... "it'll be done when it's done" is never acceptable....

  • Harrow (unregistered) in reply to Code Dependent
    Code Dependent:
    ...The compiler wouldn't show you the typos?
    If the typist entered "INTEGERS A, B, C" instead of "INTEGER A, B, C" the compiler wouldn't catch it, but the program would probably behave differently.

    -Harrow.

  • Corey (unregistered) in reply to monkeyPushButton

    Thanks webhamster, this made me smile.

    Now consider that recieving a ping command without any arguments will actually send 4 'pings'.

    ping -t (heh)

  • Pianosaurus (unregistered) in reply to Al
    Al:
    TRWTF is posting the spoiler warning after the spoiler.

    My Big Fat Greek Wedding is ruined for me now...

    That's OK. Since you know the spoiler warning came after the spoiler, you have obviously already seen it. This particular movie is spoiled by watching it, anyway.

  • silent d (unregistered)

    Ah, I see you have the manager that goes "ping".

  • OldTechSupport (unregistered) in reply to Code Dependent
    Code Dependent:
    Pickle Pumpers:
    I can't tell you how much it annoys me to be asked, "How much longer?" I hate it so much I quit a job when my boss, for the last time, asked me, "When will it be fixed?" I packed my stuff up and walked out.
    A quick, concise and appropriate answer is, "How long did it take Michelangelo to finish the sistine chapel?"[/url]
    Or my favorite: "How long is a piece of string?"
  • Semi Essessi (unregistered)

    Sad but true, this kind of stuff happens everywhere. I think part of it is because the decision makers frequently do not know enough about software and hire consultants to help or use such strange methods as going for the cheapest or most reknowned solution instead of an appropriate one.

    Consultants are always dubious, why aren't they working with software to begin with? Do they even have experience (the answer is "not necessarily"). Then there are all the rumours of back-handers. Because the decision makers have little or no knowledge they can't discern the good from the bad... its a difficult problem to solve in the general case.

  • (cs) in reply to 01001001011101000010011101110011001000000110110101100101
    01001001011101000010011101110011001000000110110101100101:
    Yeah, except you're not Michelangelo, and you're not painting the Sistine Chapel...
    As I said in my post, it conveys my own sense of my worth, and that of my work. You, being familiar with neither, are in no position to judge.
    01001001011101000010011101110011001000000110110101100101:
    you're a two-bit code monkey hacking away at some dismal software project....
    Speak for yourself.
    01001001011101000010011101110011001000000110110101100101:
    Saying it'll be done when it's done is a cop-out and shows you really have no idea what you're doing.
    Actually, it only shows that you have no idea what I'm doing.
    01001001011101000010011101110011001000000110110101100101:
    "it'll be done when it's done" is never acceptable...
    Tell it to Pope Julius II.
  • Jeff (unregistered) in reply to DOA

    That's what you think. I've SEEN this sort of thing go on at more than one company... in Tampa... I'd name names but why bother... I may have typed them in wrong.

  • Big Cheese (unregistered)

    "It's done when it's done."

    Sounds a lot like Duke Nukem Forever.

  • (cs) in reply to Code Dependent
    Code Dependent:
    TB3:
    Then they printed out her version, and we did a line-by-line comparison of the two print-outs to find her typos.

    After the typos were corrected, the program was compiled...

    The compiler wouldn't show you the typos?
    It would, but it wouldn't show you the difference between:

    int x= 3;
    int y = 4;
    x = x + 3;     // accidentally omitted by secretary
    int sum = x + y;
    
    and
    
    int x = 3;
    int y = 4;
    int sum = x + y;
    
  • (cs) in reply to silent d
    silent d:
    Ah, I see you have the manager that goes "ping".
    Win.
  • Captain Crunch (unregistered) in reply to snoofle
    snoofle:
    Code Dependent:
    TB3:
    Then they printed out her version, and we did a line-by-line comparison of the two print-outs to find her typos.

    After the typos were corrected, the program was compiled...

    The compiler wouldn't show you the typos?
    It would, but it wouldn't show you the difference between:

    int x= 3;
    int y = 4;
    x = x + 3;     // accidentally omitted by secretary
    int sum = x + y;
    
    and
    
    int x = 3;
    int y = 4;
    int sum = x + y;
    

    This is all true, and eyeballs on the paper has to be done, but I think I'd first make a few quick passes w/ the compiler to pick the low-hanging fruit.

    cc

  • (cs) in reply to Bob
    Bob:
    TRWTF: WTF does "Being pinged" mean?

    It should mean a conversation like this:

    Manager: "Still on schedule?" Worker: "Yep"

    In reality, it's micromanagement. Full context switches.

  • TheGreenMan (unregistered) in reply to Code Dependent
    Code Dependent:
    01001001011101000010011101110011001000000110110101100101:
    "it'll be done when it's done" is never acceptable...
    Tell it to Pope Julius II.
    FTW!

    The biggest WTF is Jake's superb command of the English language: "oblivity"?

  • (cs) in reply to Al
    Al:
    TRWTF is posting the spoiler warning after the spoiler.

    My Big Fat Greek Wedding is ruined for me now...

    Then you probably don't want to konw about the end of The Sixth Sense, where Bruce Willis' parents buy him a house right next door to theirs.

  • Vlad (unregistered) in reply to Ken B
    Ken B:
    Daid:
    This isn't uncommon, my mother got a temp job doing something like this. She had to type over one database into another. As they where both access databases I just asked her to bring them over, and I did her 8 week job in 5 minutes.
    So, did you defraud the company and still charge for 8 weeks of work, or did you cause your mother to lose 8 weeks of paid work?

    Why do people always say things like that? I'm convinced these people are the incompetent among us, who believe we should be paid on time not output.

    The job is valued by the employer as worth 8 weeks pay (for some reason, effort is measured in time - I think this is 'Equal Opportunity' - a dead-shit gets paid the same for their time, despite their output being lower).

    It is not fraud to do that work more efficiently, and claim the pay that was offered. If they believe the job to be 8 weeks work, and are prepared to pay for it, why should the employee lose out because they (or in this case, there son) is efficient?

    I would have thought (though I haven't been involved with Temp Work), that you are (contractually) hired for a fixed period, not '...until this item of work is finished...' - If you finish the entirety of their work in less time, you are still (according to the contract) entitled to the pay for the full period. Of course, they are entitled to start you on other work in that time, but that's not always a bad thing....

  • (cs) in reply to monkeyPushButton
    monkeyPushButton:
    webhamster:
    kastein:
    Bob:
    TRWTF: WTF does "Being pinged" mean?
    It is a technical term misused by retarded manager types these days. As a result, it is slowly morphing into an equivalent term for an instant message conversation and makes me want to smack everyone who misuses it.

    Not just IM. I hear it reference to meetings ("I'll ping him offline after the meeting."), phone calls ("I don't know, let me ping her and find out."), messages ("I pinged her but she hasn't called back.") and basically any other mode of communication. It's bloody irritating.

    Next time you are asked to "ping" someone, call them, ask if they are there, then hang up on them. Then report back to the requster how long it took the "pingee" to reply.

    Then do it three more times.

  • Smrt (unregistered) in reply to OldTechSupport
    OldTechSupport:
    Code Dependent:
    Pickle Pumpers:
    I can't tell you how much it annoys me to be asked, "How much longer?" I hate it so much I quit a job when my boss, for the last time, asked me, "When will it be fixed?" I packed my stuff up and walked out.
    A quick, concise and appropriate answer is, "How long did it take Michelangelo to finish the sistine chapel?"[/url]
    Or my favorite: "How long is a piece of string?"

    Twice the length from one end top the middle.

  • (cs) in reply to APAQ11
    APAQ11:
    The best data insertion people don't know how to read. They just match the characters exactly and don't mess up words with how they 'sound'.

    Just before I went back to college, I took a job at a comapny through a temp agency. They also hired two data entry people to enter some stuff into Quicktax.

    Now, I don't know what transpired is because they only had one computer with Quicktax on it, or confusion on the part of the temps as to how two people do data entry... but I spend the next week sitting down the hall from... the workers.

    The temp agency delivered two Asian girls-- and they were exactly what that non-PC part of your brain conjures up when someone says "two Asian girls".

    I spent the next week sitting down the hall from The Girls. One of them sat at the computer. The other one sat by the print outs, reading out data. The first girl then typed in what was read aloud. Except, again I don't know if this is because the first girl couldn't type, or the second girl couldn't read, but they did this one character at a time.

    Each character read aloud. In a high pitched, making each letter and number sound like a question. Complete with the accent. Followed by a pause. Then a single click as the correct key was located. Then the scratch of a pen as the character was crossed off the spreadsheet. Repeat.

    "whaoooooOOOON" (1 is pressed) "aaaallLLLLLLL" (R is pressed)

    Given that half the company was Loas and extremely well spoken, I have no idea how this transpired. But it did, and I can only hope it was a social experiment, or some writers doing research for a Saturday Night Live skit.

  • CiH (unregistered) in reply to Corey
    Corey:
    Now consider that recieving a ping command without any arguments will actually send 4 'pings'.

    ping -t

    Wha?! What OS are you running? ping runs until you send it the appropriate signal.

    me@abox:~
    $ man ping  | grep 'Time to Live'
           -t ttl Set the IP Time to Live.
    me@abox:~
    $ uname
    Linux
    
    [my@oldbox ~]$ man ping | grep time-to-live
               -t ttl      If host is a multicast address, set the time-to-live
    [me@oldbox ~]$ uname
    HP-UX
    
    me@heinz57:/home/me
    $ ping -t arg1
    ping: Not a recognized flag: t
    usage: ping [-dDLnqrRv] [-a address_family] [-c count] [-w timeout]
            [-f | -i wait] [-I a.b.c.d] [-l preload] [-o interface]
            [-p pattern] [-s packet_size] [-S IPv6_hostname_or_address]
            [-T ttl] host [data size] [npackets]
    me@heinz57:/home/me
    $ uname
    AIX
    
  • notme (unregistered) in reply to CiH
    CiH:
    Corey:
    Now consider that recieving a ping command without any arguments will actually send 4 'pings'.

    ping -t

    Wha?! What OS are you running? ping runs until you send it the appropriate signal.

    me@abox:~
    $ man ping  | grep 'Time to Live'
           -t ttl Set the IP Time to Live.
    me@abox:~
    $ uname
    Linux
    
    [my@oldbox ~]$ man ping | grep time-to-live
               -t ttl      If host is a multicast address, set the time-to-live
    [me@oldbox ~]$ uname
    HP-UX
    
    me@heinz57:/home/me
    $ ping -t arg1
    ping: Not a recognized flag: t
    usage: ping [-dDLnqrRv] [-a address_family] [-c count] [-w timeout]
            [-f | -i wait] [-I a.b.c.d] [-l preload] [-o interface]
            [-p pattern] [-s packet_size] [-S IPv6_hostname_or_address]
            [-T ttl] host [data size] [npackets]
    me@heinz57:/home/me
    $ uname
    AIX
    

    Solaris' "ping" sends only one single ping and only reports whether the other host is up or not.

  • jmzrbnsn (unregistered) in reply to Code Dependent
    Code Dependent:
    TB3:
    Then they printed out her version, and we did a line-by-line comparison of the two print-outs to find her typos.

    After the typos were corrected, the program was compiled...

    The compiler wouldn't show you the typos?

    As the original poster said:

    The program had been developed by another government agency and due to inter-departmental rivalry, they would not supply us with the code in digital form, only a print-out of the source.

    CAPTCHA facilisis: what Code Dependent may have ;)

  • Anonymous Coward (unregistered)

    mandraulic processes ftw!

  • Baf (unregistered) in reply to Fab

    And then print out the photo and attempt to reconstruct it with MS Paint.

    Actually, screw that. Let's use real paint.

  • cakesy (unregistered) in reply to notme
    notme:
    Anonymous:
    Code Dependent:
    A quick, concise and appropriate answer is, "How long did it take Michelangelo to finish the sistine chapel?"
    I use a similar trick, except I ask my boss "how long did it take for Gaudi to finish the Sagrada Família?". One day he'll look it up and damn will he be pissed.

    Had to look that up as well. Funny thing, maybe it'll take as long as the Cologne Cathedral (started in 1164, finished in 1880).

    Or maybe it will take as long as it takes to paint the Forth bridge in Scotland? (hint: when they finish painting the bridge, they have to start again from the other side)

  • (cs) in reply to notme
    notme:
    CiH:
    Corey:
    Now consider that recieving a ping command without any arguments will actually send 4 'pings'.

    ping -t

    Wha?! What OS are you running? ping runs until you send it the appropriate signal.

    me@abox:~
    $ man ping  | grep 'Time to Live'
           -t ttl Set the IP Time to Live.
    me@abox:~
    $ uname
    Linux
    
    [my@oldbox ~]$ man ping | grep time-to-live
               -t ttl      If host is a multicast address, set the time-to-live
    [me@oldbox ~]$ uname
    HP-UX
    
    me@heinz57:/home/me
    $ ping -t arg1
    ping: Not a recognized flag: t
    usage: ping [-dDLnqrRv] [-a address_family] [-c count] [-w timeout]
            [-f | -i wait] [-I a.b.c.d] [-l preload] [-o interface]
            [-p pattern] [-s packet_size] [-S IPv6_hostname_or_address]
            [-T ttl] host [data size] [npackets]
    me@heinz57:/home/me
    $ uname
    AIX
    

    Solaris' "ping" sends only one single ping and only reports whether the other host is up or not.

    Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.
    
    C:\>ping /?
    
    Usage: ping [-t] [-a] [-n count] [-l size] [-f] [-i TTL] [-v TOS]
                [-r count] [-s count] [[-j host-list] | [-k host-list]]
                [-w timeout] destination-list
    
    Options:
        -t             Ping the specified host until stopped.
                       To see statistics and continue - type Control-Break;
                       To stop - type Control-C.
        -a             Resolve addresses to hostnames.
        -n count       Number of echo requests to send.
        -l size        Send buffer size.
        -f             Set Don't Fragment flag in packet.
        -i TTL         Time To Live.
        -v TOS         Type Of Service.
        -r count       Record route for count hops.
        -s count       Timestamp for count hops.
        -j host-list   Loose source route along host-list.
        -k host-list   Strict source route along host-list.
        -w timeout     Timeout in milliseconds to wait for each reply.
    
    
    C:\>
    
    
  • ysth (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    Code Dependent:
    A quick, concise and appropriate answer is, "How long did it take Michelangelo to finish the sistine chapel?"
    I use a similar trick, except I ask my boss "how long did it take for Gaudi to finish the Sagrada Família?". One day he'll look it up and damn will he be pissed.
    You are careful to look both ways before crossing the street, right?
  • ysth (unregistered) in reply to caecus
    caecus:
    Reminds me of when I caught a sysadmin copying a file from a Linux system to a Windows PC by copying and pasting the contents from a telnet window into wordpad. Then reversing the process to "copy" it back. Might have worked too if the line wrap hadn't bit him.
    ITYM '"sysadmin"'.
  • Asdf (unregistered) in reply to Imroy
    Imroy:
    It never ceases to amaze me when humans are used to do the repetitive, monotonous job of manually transferring/converting data from one system to another. What do they think computers are for anyway?!

    Computers cause errors. It's more accurate to get a human to do the task. If you write a whole new software package to do the job, then you have to debug it. Data entry builds character; you are obviously just lazy if you try to suggest an alternative.

  • jondr (unregistered) in reply to MRAB
    MRAB:

    Captcha: populus. And that's not a typo!

    No, it is the genus name of cottonwood, poplar, and aspen trees.

  • (cs) in reply to OldTechSupport
    OldTechSupport:
    Code Dependent:
    Pickle Pumpers:
    I can't tell you how much it annoys me to be asked, "How much longer?" I hate it so much I quit a job when my boss, for the last time, asked me, "When will it be fixed?" I packed my stuff up and walked out.
    A quick, concise and appropriate answer is, "How long did it take Michelangelo to finish the sistine chapel?"[/url]
    Or my favorite: "How long is a piece of string?"
    Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure what to do with your input. http://www71.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=How+long+is+a+piece+of+string
  • Lee K-T (unregistered) in reply to Asdf
    Asdf:
    Computers cause errors. It's more accurate to get a human to do the task...

    Well we clearly don't work with the same humans.

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