• (cs)

    Can we all just agree that the term "climate change" barely means anything to the point where it dilutes both sides of the argument?

  • foo AKA fooo (unregistered) in reply to Morplox
    Morplox:
    Yes, as new "data" are revealed and gathered, "scientists" adjust their "hypotheses" and "models" to reflect their "deeper" understanding of the "truth."
    A few thousand years ago, experts knew earth was flat. Now "scientists" claim it's round, or "ellipsoid" or whatever fancy terms they come up with. Just because of some new "data" gathered they "adjust" their "understanding" of the "truth" that was "known" for "millennia". "Right"?
  • (cs)

    I find it very amusing that pretty much everyone is misunderstanding the direction of Morplox's sarcasm.

  • Daychilde (unregistered) in reply to ochrist
    ochrist:
    derari:
    faoileag:
    Ok, let's see if I get this right:

    100% of all Indians earn less than 1001 rupees per month.

    No, you got it wrong. 100% of Indians earn more than less than 1001 rupees per month.

    92.7% earn more than 1000 rupees, and so on...

    Does that explain the difference between little Indians and big Indians?

    After reading a huge pedantic dust-up regarding climate change, finding an actual programming joke in the thread was especially delightful. :)

  • foo AKA fooo (unregistered) in reply to chubertdev
    chubertdev:
    I find it very amusing that pretty much everyone is misunderstanding the direction of Morplox's sarcasm.
    Everyone but you, of course.

    So he stated what he really means and put in scare quotes for sarcasm. Yeah, that makes "sense".

  • (cs) in reply to foo AKA fooo
    foo AKA fooo:
    chubertdev:
    I find it very amusing that pretty much everyone is misunderstanding the direction of Morplox's sarcasm.
    Everyone but you, of course.

    So he stated what he really means and put in scare quotes for sarcasm. Yeah, that makes "sense".

    "Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight"

  • n_slash_a (unregistered) in reply to ahydra
    ahydra:
    ...is this one:

    fmval = fmval.replace(' ','').replace(' ','').replace(' ','');

    You can imagine the code review:

    original code: fmval = fmval.replace(' ','');

    reviewer: Line xx: Good idea to filter whitespace from the number. But what if somebody enters two or three spaces?

    programmer: Oh, of course! Silly me.

    As someone who works with India, yes, I can imagine that exact scenario occurring.

  • John (unregistered) in reply to foo AKA fooo
    foo AKA fooo:
    TRWTF is entering your exact income on some news web site.

    While we're at it, what was your credit card number again?

    because the article said he entered his exact income.

    NB: Being even vaguely truthful (even giving a non exact figure approximating your income is not the smartest thing in the world) about any detail on any internet form is a WTF.....

  • John (unregistered) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    Ok, let's see if I get this right:

    100% of all Indians earn less than 1001 rupees per month.

    But there are plenty of people livin in India and some of them earn more than 1000 rupees.

    So, 192.7% of all Indians earn less than 2001 rupees per month.

    // skip a few lines of the same

    So, 368.3% of all Indians earn less than 5001 rupees per month.

    Indeed. Plenty of people in India.

    The way the logic for claculating your income group is implemented is not only an antipattern, it is fundamentally flawed.

    Think, think, think!!

    What it means is that if you earn less than 1001 rupees, you are in 100% of the population. And it's right.

    Try this way: We have 10 people who coincidentally earn (unique) multiples of $100 up to $1000.... the guy who earns $100 is in the top 100% of the population the guy who earns $200 is in the top 90% of the population The guy who earns $300....are you seeing the pattern?

    HINT: The guy who earns $1000 is in the top 10% (he's also happens to be in the top 20%, 30% etc, but we don't sum them togethere)

    it doesn't mean

  • Mick (unregistered) in reply to Balu
    Balu:
    faoileag:
    A good example is climate change. Without taking a stand for or against climate change

    Oh, I didn't know that you could vote for or against climate change?! Would you please note my vote against it?

    (Sarcasm off: You are aware of the fact that there's nothing to discuss about climate change, right? It's a fact that it is happening)

    faoileag:
    calculating any forecast for temperature rise until the end of the century down to one decimal is ridiculus.

    You can very well to that based on the information from previous recorded temperature changes. Just because you don't know how to do it doesn't make it ridiculous.

    That's because we failed to brainwahs the masses - they got the wrong end of the stick.

    There is no question that climate change is occuring. It always has, and always will (anyone remember the Ice Age? Things started to get warmer after that). The actual question is whether humankind is causing (or even affecting) climate change? It is possible (IMO extremely unlikely, but nonetheless possible) that the climate change that is occuring is natural and has nothing to do with Carbon Emissions, Greenhouses and CFC's......

    I don't think there is anyone (but the most brainwashed of us) who means "Climate Change doesn't exist" - even when they say it. What they usually mean is "Climate change is not a result of anything that people have done, it's just part of a greater cycle".

    I read somewhere that there's an advisor in the UK claiming he told the powers that be that Gay marriage and the destruction of traditional family values will cause adverse weather events like they're currently seeing. So there you have it: Gay marriage causes global warming.

  • as; (unregistered) in reply to ochrist
    ochrist:
    derari:
    faoileag:
    Ok, let's see if I get this right:

    100% of all Indians earn less than 1001 rupees per month.

    No, you got it wrong. 100% of Indians earn more than less than 1001 rupees per month.

    92.7% earn more than 1000 rupees, and so on...

    Does that explain the difference between little Indians and big Indians?

    lol....

    Best comment today

  • if not then elif else fi (unregistered) in reply to Ozz
    Ozz:
    In the 70s the "experts" were concerned about global cooling.
    well, on the plus side we've done well to fix that problem
  • devil's advocate (unregistered) in reply to foo AKA fooo
    foo AKA fooo:
    Morplox:
    Yes, as new "data" are revealed and gathered, "scientists" adjust their "hypotheses" and "models" to reflect their "deeper" understanding of the "truth."
    A few thousand years ago, experts knew earth was flat. Now "scientists" claim it's round, or "ellipsoid" or whatever fancy terms they come up with. Just because of some new "data" gathered they "adjust" their "understanding" of the "truth" that was "known" for "millennia". "Right"?
    and how do we know the world is round or ellipsoid, and not some sort of multi-dimensional mobius strip type thing that we don't yet understand. Perhaps this is why occasionally people vanish in the permuda parallelgoram or the Devil's Triangle....

    oh, and if you say we have pictures from space - sure, but how do we know those pictures accurately represent anything? What if light doesn't always travel in a straight line like we assume....

    [The concept of straight is sort of interesting - there's not much in nature that you see that is perfectly straight - most straight things are human concepts)

  • QJo (unregistered) in reply to C-Derb
    C-Derb:
    I forget:
    The real WTF is an Indian actually figuring out a bug.
    I'll admit it, I laughed a little bit at this.

    +1

    Far less likely than a bug figuring out an Indian ...

  • QJo (unregistered) in reply to Mick
    Mick:
    Balu:
    faoileag:
    A good example is climate change. Without taking a stand for or against climate change

    Oh, I didn't know that you could vote for or against climate change?! Would you please note my vote against it?

    (Sarcasm off: You are aware of the fact that there's nothing to discuss about climate change, right? It's a fact that it is happening)

    faoileag:
    calculating any forecast for temperature rise until the end of the century down to one decimal is ridiculus.

    You can very well to that based on the information from previous recorded temperature changes. Just because you don't know how to do it doesn't make it ridiculous.

    That's because we failed to brainwahs the masses - they got the wrong end of the stick.

    There is no question that climate change is occuring. It always has, and always will (anyone remember the Ice Age? Things started to get warmer after that). The actual question is whether humankind is causing (or even affecting) climate change? It is possible (IMO extremely unlikely, but nonetheless possible) that the climate change that is occuring is natural and has nothing to do with Carbon Emissions, Greenhouses and CFC's......

    I don't think there is anyone (but the most brainwashed of us) who means "Climate Change doesn't exist" - even when they say it. What they usually mean is "Climate change is not a result of anything that people have done, it's just part of a greater cycle".

    I read somewhere that there's an advisor in the UK claiming he told the powers that be that Gay marriage and the destruction of traditional family values will cause adverse weather events like they're currently seeing. So there you have it: Gay marriage causes global warming.

    Climate change? It's obvious there's climate change! On Sunday it was 6 degrees Celsius here in (never mind). Yesterday it was down to -17 degrees Celsius. That is one pretty big change of climate, guys ...

  • QJo (unregistered) in reply to Mick
    Mick:
    Balu:
    faoileag:
    A good example is climate change. Without taking a stand for or against climate change

    Oh, I didn't know that you could vote for or against climate change?! Would you please note my vote against it?

    (Sarcasm off: You are aware of the fact that there's nothing to discuss about climate change, right? It's a fact that it is happening)

    faoileag:
    calculating any forecast for temperature rise until the end of the century down to one decimal is ridiculus.

    You can very well to that based on the information from previous recorded temperature changes. Just because you don't know how to do it doesn't make it ridiculous.

    That's because we failed to brainwahs the masses - they got the wrong end of the stick.

    There is no question that climate change is occuring. It always has, and always will (anyone remember the Ice Age? Things started to get warmer after that). The actual question is whether humankind is causing (or even affecting) climate change? It is possible (IMO extremely unlikely, but nonetheless possible) that the climate change that is occuring is natural and has nothing to do with Carbon Emissions, Greenhouses and CFC's......

    I don't think there is anyone (but the most brainwashed of us) who means "Climate Change doesn't exist" - even when they say it. What they usually mean is "Climate change is not a result of anything that people have done, it's just part of a greater cycle".

    I read somewhere that there's an advisor in the UK claiming he told the powers that be that Gay marriage and the destruction of traditional family values will cause adverse weather events like they're currently seeing. So there you have it: Gay marriage causes global warming.

    ... oh yeah, married homosexuals are being paid to go to places which have been hit by drought, so as to use their magical rainmaking abilities to bring the rain clouds over like they've had in Britain for the last few months ...

  • Mouse (unregistered) in reply to Mick
    Mick:
    Balu:
    faoileag:
    A good example is climate change. Without taking a stand for or against climate change

    Oh, I didn't know that you could vote for or against climate change?! Would you please note my vote against it?

    (Sarcasm off: You are aware of the fact that there's nothing to discuss about climate change, right? It's a fact that it is happening)

    faoileag:
    calculating any forecast for temperature rise until the end of the century down to one decimal is ridiculus.

    You can very well to that based on the information from previous recorded temperature changes. Just because you don't know how to do it doesn't make it ridiculous.

    That's because we failed to brainwahs the masses - they got the wrong end of the stick.

    There is no question that climate change is occuring. It always has, and always will (anyone remember the Ice Age? Things started to get warmer after that). The actual question is whether humankind is causing (or even affecting) climate change? It is possible (IMO extremely unlikely, but nonetheless possible) that the climate change that is occuring is natural and has nothing to do with Carbon Emissions, Greenhouses and CFC's......

    I don't think there is anyone (but the most brainwashed of us) who means "Climate Change doesn't exist" - even when they say it. What they usually mean is "Climate change is not a result of anything that people have done, it's just part of a greater cycle".

    I read somewhere that there's an advisor in the UK claiming he told the powers that be that Gay marriage and the destruction of traditional family values will cause adverse weather events like they're currently seeing. So there you have it: Gay marriage causes global warming.

    Hmm....I think the general consensus (from the actual scientists) is that mankind DEFINITELY has an impact on the climate, and if it weren't for that we would likely be experiencing some COOLING....

  • Spencer (unregistered) in reply to QJo

    Climate change. That's like travelling from the northern hemisphere to the southern hemisphere because they're in a different season, right?

  • (cs)

    Dec-eee-mals! DEC-eee-mals! We don' need no steenking dec-eee-mals!!!

  • nobulate (unregistered)
    if(fmval<1001){document.getElementById("totlcalc").innerHTML='100';return false;}
    if(fmval>1000 && fmval<2001){document.getElementById("totlcalc").innerHTML='92.7';return false;}
    if(fmval>2000 && fmval<3001){document.getElementById("totlcalc").innerHTML='75.20';return false;}

    This is what happens when the "boss" gives you an "Excel" spreadsheet with a list of "band lookups" against income ranges and tells you to "get it done now". New formula "if(fmval>" & A1 & " && fmval<" & A2 & and and and and.

    Profit.

  • anonymous (unregistered)

    I'm curious which would be considered preferable to the other good folk on this website...

    // use real data and linear interpolation
    var ranges = [100, 92.7, 75.2, 58.7, 41.7, 31.2, ... 0.08],
        max = 100000;
    var n, r, totlcalc;
    
    n = fmval / max * (ranges.length - 1);
    r = n % 1;
    n = Math.floor(n);
    
    totlcalc = ranges[ranges.length - 1];
    if (fmval < max) {
        totlcalc = ranges[n] * (1 - r) + ranges[n + 1] * r;
    }
    
    // invent a formula that gives an approximate answer
    var totlcalc = 100 / (1.366 * Math.exp(6.8496e-5 * fmval) - 0.366);
  • Valued Service (unregistered) in reply to Balu
    Balu:
    faoileag:
    A good example is climate change. Without taking a stand for or against climate change

    Oh, I didn't know that you could vote for or against climate change?! Would you please note my vote against it?

    (Sarcasm off: You are aware of the fact that there's nothing to discuss about climate change, right? It's a fact that it is happening)

    faoileag:
    calculating any forecast for temperature rise until the end of the century down to one decimal is ridiculus.

    You can very well to that based on the information from previous recorded temperature changes. Just because you don't know how to do it doesn't make it ridiculous.

    He's saying that the calculated rise in temperature is within the margin of error for measuring average temperature worldwide.

    Which it is.

    Which is why this whole thing is ridiculous.

    We might as well change it to "Global temperature change", because the average temperature of the Earth is a horrible method to judge climate change.

    Oh look, the African deserts just got larger, global temperature went up.

    Oh look, the city got bigger and there's more concrete around our measurement sites, and that extra radiant heat made our measurements go up.

    Ah gawd, global warming, run!!!

  • Dan (unregistered) in reply to Mouse
    Mouse:
    Hmm....I think the general consensus (from the actual scientists) is that mankind DEFINITELY has an impact on the climate, and if it weren't for that we would likely be experiencing some COOLING....

    At least among those scientists whose funding comes from climate change research.

  • (cs) in reply to Valued Service
    Valued Service:
    Oh look, the city got bigger and there's more concrete around our measurement sites, and that extra radiant heat made our measurements go up.
    Those glaciers lie certainly within cities and the extra radiant heat made them melt!.

    Well - actually they are not within cities...

  • IT_Grunt (unregistered)

    +1 to faoileag for mentioning significant digits!

  • qbolec (unregistered)

    I was expecting that they somehow inadvertently tripped on the fact that String.replace accepts regular expressions as the first argument and dot means "anything".

  • D B (unregistered) in reply to anonymous
    anonymous:
    I'm curious which would be considered preferable to the other good folk on this website...
    // use real data and linear interpolation
    var ranges = [100, 92.7, 75.2, 58.7, 41.7, 31.2, ... 0.08],
        max = 100000;
    var n, r, totlcalc;
    

    n = fmval / max * (ranges.length - 1); r = n % 1; n = Math.floor(n);

    totlcalc = ranges[ranges.length - 1]; if (fmval < max) { totlcalc = ranges[n] (1 - r) + ranges[n + 1] r; }

    // invent a formula that gives an approximate answer var totlcalc = 100 / (1.366 Math.exp(6.8496e-5 fmval) - 0.366);

    My guess is using a hidden table and use a look up... but then again I don't use HTML.

  • Rupee Everet (unregistered)

    TRWTF is that "value" wasn't considered a good enough word to start with a capital letter!

    captcha: nobis - because it's nobis of mine how it works.

  • anonymous (unregistered) in reply to D B
    D B:
    anonymous:
    I'm curious which would be considered preferable to the other good folk on this website...
    // use real data and linear interpolation
    var ranges = [100, 92.7, 75.2, 58.7, 41.7, 31.2, ... 0.08],
        max = 100000;
    var n, r, totlcalc;
    

    n = fmval / max * (ranges.length - 1); r = n % 1; n = Math.floor(n);

    totlcalc = ranges[ranges.length - 1]; if (fmval < max) { totlcalc = ranges[n] (1 - r) + ranges[n + 1] r; }

    // invent a formula that gives an approximate answer var totlcalc = 100 / (1.366 Math.exp(6.8496e-5 fmval) - 0.366);

    My guess is using a hidden table and use a look up... but then again I don't use HTML.

    Oh god, no. I really hope that you said table when you actually meant array. Using Javascript to access an HTML table instead of just using an array would be a WTF worthy of its own story.

  • goorobus (unregistered) in reply to DrPepper
    DrPepper:
    faoileag:
    Harry Borlze:
    I get $1.23459683 a year salary, but today I learned that I am the 1%!
    But that's below the minimum wage! Unless... wait, you only work 10 minutes per year???

    I saw a guy once who was a professional bull rider. He won $5,000 for successfully riding a bull. That's an 8 second ride. Figure it out -- $37,500 per minute, or $2,250,000 per hour.

    Now try riding a bull for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, for a year...
  • anonymous (unregistered) in reply to goorobus
    goorobus:
    DrPepper:
    faoileag:
    Harry Borlze:
    I get $1.23459683 a year salary, but today I learned that I am the 1%!
    But that's below the minimum wage! Unless... wait, you only work 10 minutes per year???

    I saw a guy once who was a professional bull rider. He won $5,000 for successfully riding a bull. That's an 8 second ride. Figure it out -- $37,500 per minute, or $2,250,000 per hour.

    Now try riding a bull for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, for a year...
    With any luck you'd spend most of that time receiving your disability pay.

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