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  • (cs)

    Well, what did you expect, Stephan? Next time don't ask for a 29 dimension hypercube index.

  • Luiz Felipe (unregistered) in reply to Ralph
    Ralph:
    Wait a second.

    Someone thought it would be a good idea to run Windows on an airplane???!!!! And you said "yeah, sure"?

    Did you not read the fine print? Did you skip over the part where they disclaimed all liability for "unexpected errors" (because when you sell crapware, many errors are expected)?? Did your eyes glaze over when they talked about the possibility of system crashes, and you didn't get that the "system" is your deathtrap plane???

    What about the paragraph where it said you can't sue them for faults no matter how negligent they were? Didn't it worry you when you had to initial the sentence saying this contract is binding on your heirs??

    Windows on an airplane. Humppphhh! More dangerous than a terrorist.

    Its obvius that windows will not run the plane, only the videos screens and entertainment, you will not die if it crash, only will be bored.

    I think that neither linux is secure for a plane, only deterministic processors with real time SOs, linux is not real time enough. I think they use custom made real time SO. When you need something good, better to make you own, you can never trusth third parties, even open source. Open source software takes no warranty also, they are not liable, same as windows.

  • Hans (unregistered) in reply to MS
    MS:
    Jack:
    You realize Windows is only controlling the entertainment system, right?

    I didn't see anything in the original post about an "entertainment system". I saw "private plane" and "in-flight navigation".

    There is a new trending activity. It's the latest thing (yadda, yadda), but you really should try it out. It's called: THINKING.

  • Ralph (unregistered) in reply to Hans
    Hans:
    MS:
    Jack:
    You realize Windows is only controlling the entertainment system, right?

    I didn't see anything in the original post about an "entertainment system". I saw "private plane" and "in-flight navigation".

    There is a new trending activity. It's the latest thing (yadda, yadda), but you really should try it out. It's called: THINKING.

    which, if anyone did that, we wouldn't have Windows. Q.E.D.
  • BushIdo (unregistered)

    Yeah, we have this a lot "Don't have my Kroger card with me", "Lost my Kroger card", even "Never ever had a Kroger card. Honest!". Yeah sure. From now on its new-gen Kroger cards with RFID.

  • Meep (unregistered) in reply to Hans
    Hans:
    MS:
    Jack:
    You realize Windows is only controlling the entertainment system, right?

    I didn't see anything in the original post about an "entertainment system". I saw "private plane" and "in-flight navigation".

    There is a new trending activity. It's the latest thing (yadda, yadda), but you really should try it out. It's called: THINKING.

    Trending down, of course.

  • Dave (unregistered) in reply to Matt Westwood
    Matt Westwood:
    You're one dead homophobic prick.

    Sounds like we have an Internet Hard Guy here.

  • Dave (unregistered) in reply to Marke
    Marke:
    511tactical . com

    The Real WTF is the underendowed, didn't-quite-make-the-grade-for-the-army guys who need to buy that crap in order to feel less worthless.

  • Ryan (unregistered) in reply to I forget
    I forget:
    All of Windows 8 is a WTF.
    AMEN
  • sod (unregistered) in reply to Nagesh
    Nagesh:
    Set:
    Matt Westwood:
    Nagesh:
    My first smartphone I purchase called Samsung DUOS. That crack after I put it in my pant pocket and went to drive motorcycle.

    New rule of Nagesh: No driving motorcycle with phone in backpocket. Always put phone in front-pocket or use clips to store it in shirt pocket.

    Get yourself one of those snazzy leather cases for it. Mwah!

    Leather? As in, Cow Leather?

    True Fact: Number of buffalo in India exceed number of cows by fare margin.

    False Fact: You are from India.

  • AN AMAZING CODER (unregistered) in reply to MS
    MS:
    Jack:
    You realize Windows is only controlling the entertainment system, right?

    I didn't see anything in the original post about an "entertainment system". I saw "private plane" and "in-flight navigation".

    For those not familiar with the highly technical terms, "navigation" is how you know where you are and how to get where you are going. It's not "entertainment".

    Navigation versus navigation display. Your windows machine running software that wraps the output of a navigational instrument to give you some cool interactive maps is not the same thing as windows powering your navigation instruments.

    MS:
    Windows is the de-facto standard for navigation software for small boats, so I would not be surprised to find it in small planes.

    Planes have higher standards than boats, being that if the computer on your boat craps out you'll just float there until your S.O.S. is responded to, versus eventually plummeting to your death in a plane. Boat captains can also use more traditional forms of navigation like the stars, since they don't have to worry about keeping a reference to the horizon while looking up. Maybe pilots can do the same, but again, they have more to worry about.

    MS:

    I'm sure the flight systems use an RTOS, and probably a proprietary one.

    Maybe aircraft flight systems are exclusively some RTOS, but there are Windows-based ECDIS systems for use in commercial shipping. So, next time you see a container ship, wonder if it is using Windows to navigate.

    (I'd say "next time you see a supertanker, but most of you aren't likely to be anywhere that a supertanker can go...)

    Your assetion was "if windows crashes then I can't navigate". ECDIS makes it easier for you to navigate, it's not the only way to navigate.

    By the way, ECDIS entails GPS, which is still probably not powered by Windows itself.

  • Shark8 (unregistered) in reply to Jack

    [quote user="Jack"][quote user="Ralph"] I'm sure the flight systems use an RTOS, and probably a proprietary one.[/quote]

    And there's a VERY high chance that OS is written in Ada. http://archive.adaic.com/projects/atwork/boeing.html

  • (cs)

    Samsung sold more than 7 million Galaxy Notes within 6 months, making it nearly as successful as the Galaxy S II. In hindsight, this explains why the Pointy Haired Boss is the boss and Dilbert isn't.

  • Luc (unregistered)

    You shouldn't see this comment.

  • (cs) in reply to Luc
    Luc:
    You shouldn't see this comment.
    Good, I don't.
  • Morris (unregistered) in reply to MP79

    Dilbert is an illustration of how excessive cynicism can destroy creativity.

  • George Boole (unregistered) in reply to n_slash_a
    n_slash_a:
    Jack:
    Ralph:
    Wait a second.

    Someone thought it would be a good idea to run Windows on an airplane???!!!! And you said "yeah, sure"?

    Did you not read the fine print? Did you skip over the part where they disclaimed all liability for "unexpected errors" (because when you sell crapware, many errors are expected)?? Did your eyes glaze over when they talked about the possibility of system crashes, and you didn't get that the "system" is your deathtrap plane???

    What about the paragraph where it said you can't sue them for faults no matter how negligent they were? Didn't it worry you when you had to initial the sentence saying this contract is binding on your heirs??

    Windows on an airplane. Humppphhh! More dangerous than a terrorist.

    You realize Windows is only controlling the entertainment system, right?

    I'm sure the flight systems use an RTOS, and probably a proprietary one.

    As some who programs the GPS part of flight control systems, I can assure you that no, we don't use Windows. It is a propriety RTOS that tests the functionality of EVERY line of code and EVERY true/false conditional statement.

    Primary flight navigation equipment must conform to DO-178B Level A, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DO-178B

    You mean you use conditional statements that AREN'T true/false? Dear God.

  • rohmell brills (unregistered) in reply to I ar the frist!

    You may be frist, butIU am firts.

  • not frits either (unregistered) in reply to Ralph
    Ralph:
    Windows on an airplane. Humppphhh! More dangerous than a terrorist.

    One could call Microsoft a terrorist organisation, as they try to convince people Microsoft’s stuff is best by suggesting bad things will happen to people using competitors. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear%2C_uncertainty_and_doubt. This means you cannot trust Microsoft!

  • Micky (unregistered) in reply to AN AMAZING CODER
    AN AMAZING CODER:
    Planes have higher standards than boats, being that if the computer on your boat craps out you'll just float there until your S.O.S. is responded to, versus eventually plummeting to your death in a plane. Boat captains can also use more traditional forms of navigation like the stars, since they don't have to worry about keeping a reference to the horizon while looking up. Maybe pilots can do the same, but again, they have more to worry about.

    The fallback navigation for pilots tends to be a map and/or compass and/or nav beacons and/or ground help.

    People flew planes well before GPS was invented. Pilots are all initially taught how to fly planes without the aid of GPS. Even a 747 pilot can descend to a map for navigation if its GPS fails.

    In low visibility, maps don't work (but neither does navigation by stars...), but then they can use either nav beacons (if they're in an area which still has them), or triangulation by ground equipment can find them (we're all taught how to ask 121.5 for a location fix).

    Any pilot who would crash if their GPS failed really shouldn't be flying a plane...

  • (cs)

    I don't have a Galaxy Note, but if need to buy a phone today, it very likely be a Galaxy Note. There are nothing wrong with its size, it actually what make it better than other phones.

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