• Nazca (unregistered)

    Oh for pity sake.

    It's "naughty", not "naught", "nought" and definitely not "not".

    "who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it"

    If you can't hear the distinct "nor-tea", you need to get your ears checked.

    Other good reasons...

    • Your proposed replacements make no sense in a biblical context, even less in a mock biblical context.
    • If you watch his lips as he's speaking, I'm reasonably happy that there is a double mouth movement that matches up to the two syllables in the word.
    • It neatly matches the biblical principle that bad people are "sinners in the eyes of the Lord", and upon that principle the army of the Lord should go kill them.
    • The Pythons are well known for using what ever is most ridiculous and funny. Using "Naught" fails both. Using "naughty" is ridiculous, is totally out of place in a biblical passage, and really is quite funny. That formulation is typical Python.
    • If they meant to say it the other way, they would have said "being nothing in my sight" so it was suitably clear ... writers do that sort of thing.

    If you want evidence of the Python propensity for putting jokes in throw away words, take a careful listen to the tree names on the lumberjack song. You'll need to find the right one ... I think it's the one on "And now for something completely different". Anyone know where I can find a "Leicestershire Flashing Oak" tree?

    (If you're feeling lazy, google "lumberjack song maidenhead", it will find you some almost right transcriptions)

    Finally, to anyone that thinks imdb is a valid reference for accurate script references... They appear to employ no editorial oversight, the quotes page is pretty much entirely user generated. Evidenced by the stupid habit of them having multiple versions of the same quote on the same page.

    Captcha: Minim ... I feel a bit crotchety, but I'll see you are the bar

  • (cs) in reply to Scarlet Manuka
    Scarlet Manuka:
    Slightly less common but far more annoying is when they mix up words that sound similar.

    Among the more egregious examples I can remember off the top of my head, "mite" being consistently rendered as "might" in Firefly (e.g. "a mite concerned" becomes "a might concerned", which doesn't even make sense - and they use that word quite a bit), and "piqued" being rendered as "peaked" in a line from Futurama ("My intellectual curiosity re cryogenics was peaked[sic]").

    You must have spent a long time pouring over the subtitles to spot all those homonyms!
  • (cs) in reply to Xythar
    Xythar:
    If The=security, will this site now be known as Security Daily WTF?
    No, as Security Daily WSF.
  • Evilnut (unregistered)

    How many developers were decapitated by the vicious beast before they released the Holy Build?

  • ry (unregistered)

    if(!messiah){ naughtyBoy=true; }

  • Anonymous (unregistered)

    Gave up trying to comment on this article, comment submission system is fucked.

  • (cs)

    I hate when the kids leave the door open on my USB Drive. It wastes so much energy!!

  • the beholder (unregistered) in reply to Xythar
    Xythar:
    If The=security, will this site now be known as Security Daily WTF?
    No. It would if it was The==security, however.

    Oh wait. What language will compile this again?

  • anonymous (unregistered) in reply to the beholder
    the beholder:
    Xythar:
    If The=security, will this site now be known as Security Daily WTF?
    No. It would if it was The==security, however.

    Oh wait. What language will compile this again?

    ENGLISH M**RF**ER!

  • (cs) in reply to the beholder
    the beholder:
    Xythar:
    If The=security, will this site now be known as Security Daily WTF?
    No. It would if it was The==security, however.

    Oh wait. What language will compile this again?

    D-Flat?

  • oldtroll (unregistered)

    it's "naughty", see

    http://www.serve.com/bonzai/monty/films/MontyPythonandtheHolyGrail

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to Nazca
    Nazca:
    Oh for pity sake.

    It's "naughty", not "naught", "nought" and definitely not "not".

    QFT and FFS. It's "naughty" clearly. It never even occurred to me that it could be anything else. Maybe the problem is with Americans trying to understand Palin's accent, compounded by him doing a silly voice on top of that.

  • sino (unregistered) in reply to DaveK
    DaveK:
    Scarlet Manuka:
    Slightly less common but far more annoying is when they mix up words that sound similar.

    Among the more egregious examples I can remember off the top of my head, "mite" being consistently rendered as "might" in Firefly (e.g. "a mite concerned" becomes "a might concerned", which doesn't even make sense - and they use that word quite a bit), and "piqued" being rendered as "peaked" in a line from Futurama ("My intellectual curiosity re cryogenics was peaked[sic]").

    You must have spent a long time pouring over the subtitles to spot all those homonyms!
    Wait... I was with Hugh Anthill... "pouring [what] over the sub tidals"?
  • Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    QFT and FFS. It's "naughty" clearly. It never even occurred to me that it could be anything else. Maybe the problem is with Americans trying to understand Palin's accent, compounded by him doing a silly voice on top of that.
    Micheal Palin doesn't really have an accent other than "British" and that is not an accent, it is merely the correct rendering of the language you colourfully refer to as "English".
  • letatio (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    Anon:
    QFT and FFS. It's "naughty" clearly. It never even occurred to me that it could be anything else. Maybe the problem is with Americans trying to understand Palin's accent, compounded by him doing a silly voice on top of that.
    Micheal Palin doesn't really have an accent other than "British" and that is not an accent, it is merely the correct rendering of the language you colourfully refer to as "English".
    So, which of the 12 dialects of "British" listed on http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/dialectsofenglish.html is the correct rendering of "English?" Which dialect is Michael Palin using in order to speak without an accent?
  • (cs)

    Ni.

  • (cs) in reply to Jason
    Jason:
    Nope. I think the people publishing the script got it wrong too.

    Could you please provide any notes taken while the scriptwriters were collaborating?

    Cheers in Advance!!

    Sorry, I don't have notes taken during scriptwriting, but I do have some taken during filming; will that help? [image] No, Akismet; it's not spam. I mean it.

  • (cs)

    I bet that lame password restriction is due to the use of simple XOR encryption without encoding the result. When a plaintext character matches the encryption key character in the same position, zero is the result. An ASCII zero probably causes all kinds of trouble for whatever is storing that result. So, instead of fixing the problem (storing only a hash, or Base64 encoding the encryption output), they tell you not to match the encryption key at all. A few dozen more tries on that password input and it will eventually tell you the entire encryption key, one character position at a time!

    P.S. I only know this because I have been guilty of it myself...

  • Xythar (unregistered) in reply to the beholder
    the beholder:
    Xythar:
    If The=security, will this site now be known as Security Daily WTF?
    No. It would if it was The==security, however.

    Oh wait. What language will compile this again?

    Don't you have them backwards? The single equals would be assigning "security" to "the", after all.

  • Nazca (unregistered) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    Nazca:
    Oh for pity sake.

    It's "naughty", not "naught", "nought" and definitely not "not".

    QFT and FFS. It's "naughty" clearly. It never even occurred to me that it could be anything else. Maybe the problem is with Americans trying to understand Palin's accent, compounded by him doing a silly voice on top of that.

    Lets not play these people the "I'd like to report a burglary" sketch then grin

  • Nazca (unregistered) in reply to letatio
    letatio:
    Anonymous:
    Anon:
    QFT and FFS. It's "naughty" clearly. It never even occurred to me that it could be anything else. Maybe the problem is with Americans trying to understand Palin's accent, compounded by him doing a silly voice on top of that.
    Micheal Palin doesn't really have an accent other than "British" and that is not an accent, it is merely the correct rendering of the language you colourfully refer to as "English".
    So, which of the 12 dialects of "British" listed on http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/dialectsofenglish.html is the correct rendering of "English?" Which dialect is Michael Palin using in order to speak without an accent?
    The correct rending is Queen's English, that which they used to require for people speaking on the BBC.. essentially no dialect at all.

    As a Lancashire lad I can tell you his definition of our dialect is a ridiculous simplification ... though the accent differs from West to East, Lancastrian, Yorkshire and Scouse have essentially absorbed the qualities of their neighbours. Fair, for and fur are all pronounced to rhyme ... fur, fer, fur. r's vary h's are dropped all over the place, other letters get randomly inserted. the gets reduced to t' and prefixed to the following word. "to the" becomes "ter" still use thy, thou and thee. aught and naught (pronounced /ert/, /aut/ or /out/ and /nert/,/naut/ or /nout/) are used for anything and nothing. was and were get switched around a lot double negatives are common but treated as single negatives fairly common to hear things like "I'm in to <band name> me"

    So yes, the dialects proposed by that page are fairly over simplified, but a nice thought

  • (cs)

    Monty Python, Monty Python, hmm, let me think. ... Guys, I think, I've seen a reference to Monty Python in a webcomic.

    Ah, yes, it was the mandatory xkcd reference: http://xkcd.com/16/

  • (cs)

    The=comment

    // TODO: handle this by reposting a few times before hard-failing.

  • (cs) in reply to Nazca
    Nazca:
    Oh for pity sake.
    It's "Oh for pity's sake", not "Oh for pity sake".

    Also, a Møøse once bit my sister. runs away

  • Nazca (unregistered) in reply to DaveK
    DaveK:
    Nazca:
    Oh for pity sake.
    It's "Oh for pity's sake", not "Oh for pity sake".

    Also, a Møøse once bit my sister. runs away

    Oi, do you mind? Nitpicking is my job

  • Nitty (unregistered) in reply to Nazca
    Nazca:
    DaveK:
    Nazca:
    Oh for pity sake.
    It's "Oh for pity's sake", not "Oh for pity sake".

    Also, a Møøse once bit my sister. runs away

    Oi, do you mind? Nitpicking is my job

    <Python Voice> Oh good, can you do mine next?! </Python Voice>

  • Random Anonymous English person (unregistered)

    The "naught" could be a very posh English pronounciation of "not".

    If you were to listen to the Queen, you would hear this sort of accent.

    "One does nort put up with this." Seriously.

    Now the question is just - is Palin's character speaking in a faux-posh accent.

  • Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to Random Anonymous English person
    Random Anonymous English person:
    The "naught" could be a very posh English pronounciation of "not".

    If you were to listen to the Queen, you would hear this sort of accent.

    "One does nort put up with this." Seriously.

    Now the question is just - is Palin's character speaking in a faux-posh accent.

    Instead of making wild guesses, why not just read the damn script? That's what I did, which is why I now know unequivocally that the word is "naughty". End of discussion.

  • Robert (unregistered) in reply to Nazca
    Nazca:
    Anyone know where I can find a "Leicestershire Flashing Oak" tree?

    Sorry, I only know how to identify a Larch

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to Random Anonymous English person
    Random Anonymous English person:
    Now the question is just - is Palin's character speaking in a faux-posh accent.

    Michael Palin went to Oxford, that automatically makes him somewhat posh.

    But no, in the scene in question he is doing a faux-ecclesiastical accent. And he's clearly saying "naughty".

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to Watson
    Watson:
    Jason:
    Nope. I think the people publishing the script got it wrong too.

    Could you please provide any notes taken while the scriptwriters were collaborating?

    Cheers in Advance!!

    Sorry, I don't have notes taken during scriptwriting, but I do have some taken during filming; will that help? [image] No, Akismet; it's not spam. I mean it.

    Case closed. People who still think it's not "naughty" need to get their ears cleaned out.

  • (cs) in reply to Andrew

    I was using Billy Madison's Shakespeare voice.

  • (cs) in reply to Andrew
    Andrew:
    Was I the only one who read the error message in his head using Michael Palin's voice?
    I was using Billy Madison's Shakespeare voice.
  • Susan (unregistered)

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  • letatio (unregistered) in reply to Nazca
    Nazca:
    The correct rending is Queen's English, that which they used to require for people speaking on the BBC.. essentially no dialect at all. ... snip ...
    Michael Palin is speaking the Queen's English in this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOhoKFZYaI0&feature=related

    I am glad you can't hear any dialect in it.

  • Anonymous (unregistered)

    The past is a different country.

    I'm surprised no one said that yet.

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