The Daily WTF: Curious Perversions in Information Technology

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Tim:
snoofle:
Isn't testing a canister-fueled suppression system without the canister kind of like testing a backup system without the tape? The procedure may look like it passed, but how do you really know?
I am going to propose that in order to reduce risk, from this point forward all [fire] drills be done by setting actual [fires].
exactly - I never met a computer guy who was content to press the 'test' button on a smoke alarm. Despite what the instructions say, The only way to test a smoke alarm is to hold a match underneath it

That hardly reproduces a real world fire. What you need to do is pile up a load of old boxes about 20ft from the detector, grab some firelighter or gasoline and light the lot up. Give it 10 minutes and if the alarm goes off the test is successful. In either case call out the fire service.

Hatshepsut · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

SCB:
ooblek:
I went to a data center once that required a 5 minute training session before you were allowed to enter.
The training?

"If you hear the fire alarm ring and see this stuff coming out of the halon dispensers, run for the exit [or you're fucked]."

The server rooms (filled with roughly 30 x 25 rows of racks) are apparently air-tight.

I have worked at a place like that. When the alarm goes off the doors automatically lock shut to keep the Halon gas in the room. It is supposed to be safe to breathe though.

Non-toxic, perhaps, but the aim is to asphyxiate the fire...

EDIT: After a quick trip to Wikipedia, I stand corrected.

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Hatshepsut:
SCB:
ooblek:
I went to a data center once that required a 5 minute training session before you were allowed to enter.
The training?

"If you hear the fire alarm ring and see this stuff coming out of the halon dispensers, run for the exit [or you're fucked]."

The server rooms (filled with roughly 30 x 25 rows of racks) are apparently air-tight.

I have worked at a place like that. When the alarm goes off the doors automatically lock shut to keep the Halon gas in the room. It is supposed to be safe to breathe though.

Non-toxic, perhaps, but the aim is to asphyxiate the fire...

EDIT: After a quick trip to Wikipedia, I stand corrected.

As far as I know, it is now banned in the UK. If you have an existing Halon 1301 extinguishing system then you are allowed to maintain it, but no new installations are allowed.

An anonymous source · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

geoffrey:
ObiWayneKenobi:
The real issue is spineless developers who put in hours for death-marches instead of saying "No, I don't care how much you cry like a spoiled kid, this isn't being done in a week".
Seriously, why do most managers act like spoiled children and expect to point and scream and say "Mommy I want that now! now now now" and get it?

You can't be serious. No one "owes" a programmer a job. Project timing is driven by knowledgable people at the top of an organization, who are responsible for responding to market conditions that affect the company. Staying at the top of your game is what enables the company to stay in business. A programmer who says "No, I refuse to put in the effort to get the job done" is really saying "The success of the company is not important to me."

Calling someone "spineless" for being a team player says a lot about you.

Epic

Troll

Fail

...Anyone biting?

Pim · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Jo:
Nagesh:
(something)
That may well be true [...]

Wait, what?

QJo · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

An anonymous source:
geoffrey:
ObiWayneKenobi:
The real issue is spineless developers who put in hours for death-marches instead of saying "No, I don't care how much you cry like a spoiled kid, this isn't being done in a week".
Seriously, why do most managers act like spoiled children and expect to point and scream and say "Mommy I want that now! now now now" and get it?

You can't be serious. No one "owes" a programmer a job. Project timing is driven by knowledgable people at the top of an organization, who are responsible for responding to market conditions that affect the company. Staying at the top of your game is what enables the company to stay in business. A programmer who says "No, I refuse to put in the effort to get the job done" is really saying "The success of the company is not important to me."

Calling someone "spineless" for being a team player says a lot about you.

Epic

Troll

Fail

...Anyone biting?

The sensible approach would be to politely but firmly state that you have commitments outside of work which unfortunately can not be rearranged. If this proves to be too much of a burden for management to countenance, then they are at liberty to try and dismiss you. If they do get rid of you for not working unfeasible and technically illegal amounts of overtime, then you are at liberty to approach them with a lawsuit.

Oh yes of course, I forgot, this is the US where employment laws do not exist.

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

An anonymous source:
geoffrey:
You can't be serious. No one "owes" a programmer a job. Project timing is driven by knowledgable people at the top of an organization, who are responsible for responding to market conditions that affect the company. Staying at the top of your game is what enables the company to stay in business. A programmer who says "No, I refuse to put in the effort to get the job done" is really saying "The success of the company is not important to me."
Calling someone "spineless" for being a team player says a lot about you.

Epic

Troll

Fail

...Anyone biting?

Interestingly, this time geoffrey said smarter things than in his usual baits. Just ignore the part about "knowledgeable people at the top of an organization" and it'll seem like an actual, sensible post.

Does that mean there's a minimum stupidity a troll must demonstrate in order to successfully overthrow a forum? Does his failure mean the internet crowd is becoming -gasp- SMARTER??

. . . Nah, geoffrey is probably just failing at demonstrating all his stored stupidity.

ObiWayneKenobi · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

QJo:
Oh yes of course, I forgot, this is the US where employment laws do not exist.

Make no mistake, employment laws do exist... just they exist solely to benefit the company and not the employee. Doubly so in "Right to Work" states, where the company can fire you for any reason at all, including refusing to work mandated 24-hour days, and the government will happily agree with the corporation.

golddog · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

I don't mean to go off on a tangent, but what is an off-sine data center?

ooblek · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Hatshepsut:
SCB:
ooblek:
I went to a data center once that required a 5 minute training session before you were allowed to enter.
The training?

"If you hear the fire alarm ring and see this stuff coming out of the halon dispensers, run for the exit [or you're fucked]."

The server rooms (filled with roughly 30 x 25 rows of racks) are apparently air-tight.

I have worked at a place like that. When the alarm goes off the doors automatically lock shut to keep the Halon gas in the room. It is supposed to be safe to breathe though.

Non-toxic, perhaps, but the aim is to asphyxiate the fire...

EDIT: After a quick trip to Wikipedia, I stand corrected.

It apparently makes the breather "giddy". I suppose when there is a fire and the halon is released, it is generally considered a bad time to start giggling about the thought of unicorns jumping over rainbows. I could be wrong though.

The other part about it breaking down into toxic substances, especially acids, when it touches hot metal doesn't sound too pleasant either.

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

ObiWayneKenobi:
QJo:
Oh yes of course, I forgot, this is the US where employment laws do not exist.

Make no mistake, employment laws do exist... just they exist solely to benefit the company and not the employee. Doubly so in "Right to Work" states, where the company can fire you for any reason at all, including refusing to work mandated 24-hour days, and the government will happily agree with the corporation.

It is increasingly difficult to understand if you're trolling for the sake of trolling or is presenting logical arguments beyond the scope of your feeble mind?

PedanticCurmudgeon · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Nag-geoff:
ObiWayneKenobi:
QJo:
Oh yes of course, I forgot, this is the US where employment laws do not exist.

Make no mistake, employment laws do exist... just they exist solely to benefit the company and not the employee. Doubly so in "Right to Work" states, where the company can fire you for any reason at all, including refusing to work mandated 24-hour days, and the government will happily agree with the corporation.

It is increasingly difficult to understand if you're trolling for the sake of trolling or is presenting logical arguments beyond the scope of your feeble mind?

Much like the difference between a troll and someone who is willfully clueless, it doesn't really matter. They're both annoying, and there's no point arguing with either.

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

the beholder:
An anonymous source:
geoffrey:
You can't be serious. No one "owes" a programmer a job. Project timing is driven by knowledgable people at the top of an organization, who are responsible for responding to market conditions that affect the company. Staying at the top of your game is what enables the company to stay in business. A programmer who says "No, I refuse to put in the effort to get the job done" is really saying "The success of the company is not important to me."
Calling someone "spineless" for being a team player says a lot about you.

Epic

Troll

Fail

...Anyone biting?

Interestingly, this time geoffrey said smarter things than in his usual baits. Just ignore the part about "knowledgeable people at the top of an organization" and it'll seem like an actual, sensible post.
Does that mean there's a minimum stupidity a troll must demonstrate in order to successfully overthrow a forum? Does his failure mean the internet crowd is becoming -gasp- SMARTER??

. . . Nah, geoffrey is probably just failing at demonstrating all his stored stupidity.

You just fail to see my superior intellect. The stupidity is on your side.

frits · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

DSkoll:
All you geeks joking about tangents, sines and cosines really need to get more secs.

The Indians with the turbins?

frits · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Ferrite donuts would have fixed that off-sine problem.

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

ObiWayneKenobi:
The real issue is spineless developers who put in hours for death-marches instead of saying "No, I don't care how much you cry like a spoiled kid, this isn't being done in a week".
Seriously, why do most managers act like spoiled children and expect to point and scream and say "Mommy I want that now! now now now" and get it?

Because they sign the paychecks.

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

wolfi:
my German is less than rusty

so shiny and new then?

Ummm. No.

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

DSkoll:
All you geeks joking about tangents, sines and cosines really need to get more secs.

lol! wouldn't that be asin? i tried in the cot, but pi was its period.

Nagesh · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

frits:
DSkoll:
All you geeks joking about tangents, sines and cosines really need to get more secs.
The Indians with the turbins?

You are mean to say Sikhs! They are warrior race and carry weapon on body at all time. Think four time before making joke.

frits · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Nagesh:
frits:
DSkoll:
All you geeks joking about tangents, sines and cosines really need to get more secs.
The Indians with the turbins?

You are mean to say Sikhs! They are warrior race and carry weapon on body at all time. Think four time before making joke.

Did you just go all ITG on me? Don't jump the shark...

Nagesh · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

frits:
Nagesh:
frits:
DSkoll:
All you geeks joking about tangents, sines and cosines really need to get more secs.
The Indians with the turbins?

You are mean to say Sikhs! They are warrior race and carry weapon on body at all time. Think four time before making joke.
Did you just go all ITG on me? Don't jump the shark...

What is ITG? is jump shark like jump gun?

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Chuck:
ObiWayneKenobi:
The real issue is spineless developers who put in hours for death-marches instead of saying "No, I don't care how much you cry like a spoiled kid, this isn't being done in a week".
Seriously, why do most managers act like spoiled children and expect to point and scream and say "Mommy I want that now! now now now" and get it?

Because they sign the paychecks.

Because they sine the paychecks

Pim · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

OMG, it looks like the Trigan Empire in here.

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Mathew:
Dietrich:
Melvis:
"The project plan was buried unter a pile of empty pizza boxes and laptops."
Unter? German flashback.

Der Projektplan wurde begraben Unter einem Stapel von leeren Pizza-Kartons und Laptops.

(Google translated that - my German is less than rusty)
I suspect Google hasn't got a good grasp of German word order.

There's nothing wrong with the word order.

Wanna know how I know you don't speak German?

"begraben" should be at the end of the sentence. Also, "unter" should not be capitalized.

Moving on to English:

TFA:
The room stunk of caged programmers...

Whatever happened to the past tense of "stink" being "stank"? The same thing seems to be happening to "sink." Stupid kids.

Zylon · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Pim:
OMG, it looks like the Trigan Empire in here.

You're going to have to explain that one.

Kuba · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

operagost:
Tim:
snoofle:
Isn't testing a canister-fueled suppression system without the canister kind of like testing a backup system without the tape? The procedure may look like it passed, but how do you really know?
I am going to propose that in order to reduce risk, from this point forward all [fire] drills be done by setting actual [fires].
exactly - I never met a computer guy who was content to press the 'test' button on a smoke alarm. Despite what the instructions say, The only way to test a smoke alarm is to hold a match underneath it

I do, because I know that ionizing detectors have a life span of about 10 years, at which point they will no longer detect any particles but will pass a button test (which only tests the sounding device and battery, from what I can tell).

UL requirements for at least residential smoke and CO detectors are kinda silly. I have one in every bedroom upstairs, and a different type from a different vendor (for diversity) in the hallway. All of them are interconnected -- if one sounds, they all do. That makes me sleep reasonably well.

Kuba · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

da Doctah:
snoofle:
I am going to propose that in order to reduce risk, from this point forward all [fire] drills be done by setting actual [fires].

And the Process, as described on the file card, will read "burn this card".

If the process fits on just one cue card, it's not enterprisey enough, for sure.

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

ObiWayneKenobi:
QJo:
Oh yes of course, I forgot, this is the US where employment laws do not exist.

Make no mistake, employment laws do exist... just they exist solely to benefit the company and not the employee. Doubly so in "Right to Work" states, where the company can fire you for any reason at all, including refusing to work mandated 24-hour days, and the government will happily agree with the corporation.

You're a funny troll.

Unions in Union-controlled States only protect union members. Which doesn't include any of us.

Pim · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Zylon:
Pim:
OMG, it looks like the Trigan Empire in here.
You're going to have to explain that one.

It's a quip on trigonometry.

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Bob:
You're a funny troll.
Unions in Union-controlled States only protect union members. Which doesn't include any of us.

You are wrong.

I am a capitalist, red in tooth and claw. Sometimes paying a fine for violating the law is the cost of doing business. Human costs are absolutely irrelevant.

The reason I want to destroy unions is because they cost non-union businesses (like mine) more money. If there is a union shop offering union wages and benefits in my market, then my non-union shop has to compete at those same rates. Otherwise I get the dregs who don't even qualify to work for the union (and considering the average union worker, just think about how bad that is for a moment!)

Far from protecting only union workers, the unions are still a pain in my non-union ass.

Nagesh · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Is Alex gone on to his in-law place for christmas holidays?

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Joe B:
That is why IT NEEDS unions!

I'm confused - do the onions go with the bacon or on the pizza (or both?)

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

the beholder:
An anonymous source:
geoffrey:
You can't be serious. No one "owes" a programmer a job. Project timing is driven by knowledgable people at the top of an organization, who are responsible for responding to market conditions that affect the company. Staying at the top of your game is what enables the company to stay in business. A programmer who says "No, I refuse to put in the effort to get the job done" is really saying "The success of the company is not important to me."
Calling someone "spineless" for being a team player says a lot about you.

Epic

Troll

Fail

...Anyone biting?

Interestingly, this time geoffrey said smarter things than in his usual baits. Just ignore the part about "knowledgeable people at the top of an organization" and it'll seem like an actual, sensible post.
Does that mean there's a minimum stupidity a troll must demonstrate in order to successfully overthrow a forum? Does his failure mean the internet crowd is becoming -gasp- SMARTER??

. . . Nah, geoffrey is probably just failing at demonstrating all his stored stupidity.

On my machine, akismet seems to filter all posts by Nagesh, geoffery, Nag-Geoff and a handful of others - I see them quoted, but I don't see their original posts.

I guess when you troll obvioulsy and often, the world eventually realises that anything you say isn't worth bothering with - although there was the boy who cried "wolf"

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Nagesh:
frits:
DSkoll:
All you geeks joking about tangents, sines and cosines really need to get more secs.
The Indians with the turbins?

You are mean to say Sikhs! They are warrior race and carry weapon on body at all time. Think four time before making joke.

Insults are really flying today....

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Socio:
Bob:
You're a funny troll.
Unions in Union-controlled States only protect union members. Which doesn't include any of us.
You are wrong.

I am a capitalist, red in tooth and claw. Sometimes paying a fine for violating the law is the cost of doing business. Human costs are absolutely irrelevant.

The reason I want to destroy unions is because they cost non-union businesses (like mine) more money. If there is a union shop offering union wages and benefits in my market, then my non-union shop has to compete at those same rates. Otherwise I get the dregs who don't even qualify to work for the union (and considering the average union worker, just think about how bad that is for a moment!)

Far from protecting only union workers, the unions are still a pain in my non-union ass.

Actually that's only partly true (although I'm not a yank, so perhaps things are different there).

It is true that Unions (fairly or unfairly) fight for everyone, not just the union worker - and it's annoying when a reasonable work contract is presented to the masses, but the union insists all the union labour votes against it (and some of the spin they use to make it look like we get a better deal). 6 months later we finally agree on a contract that has marginally higher payrises upfront (which would barely offset the lack of payrise 6 months ago) and smaller payrises over the life of the agreement. I'm not in the union, but I've been forced to accept what they fought for (and frankly, although I was never a fan of individual agreements, I can really see the benefit of me negotiating my own contract).

OTOH I can see a certain attraction to non-union shops - even if the wages are marginally lower. Perhaps this is because I enjoy working with competent people (rather than ones who need a union to guarantee their employment despite their incompetence) or that I enjoy getting work done, not standing at picket lines. I am also up myself enough to think that my awesomeness will make an employer want to throw money at me, so even if I start on a lower wage that could change as the employer realises how much money I can make for him (or her)....

Short Story: I agree Unions are stupid and only benefit people who basically are not fit for the job they do

Aside: Many moons ago I worked in transport. For one reason and another, one company (with mainly union workers) lost a govt tender, and most of their employees were picked up by the company that one the tender (a company where although there were some union workers it was a significant minority). Two contracts existed, depending on which company you had originally worked for, and a big fight started with the union over exactly what should be in a later contract that would combine both to bring all employees under the same agreement (I think it was an EBA {enterprise bargaining agreement} and an AWA {Australian workplace agreement} if that makes a difference). The union began encouraging workers to annoy the company by putting up posters saying things like "Don't wear a tie" (one of the more minor sticking points of the agreement was that the AWA specified that a tie must be worn, and the EBA didn't). Had the posters made the point that the requriement to wear a tie was unenforceable or optional I'd have less of a problem with it, but essentially they were deliberately stirring shit for no real reason.... It was at this point that I realised no matter how noble the idea of unionism was, and despite any good that may have come from them, they have past their usefulness and have far too much power.

Perhaps people need to remember that employment is a 2 way agreement. The reason your employer gives you money is because what you do somehow contributes to him earning money. If you help him get loads of money, you'll probably find he is willing to share more with you (especially if you suggest there might be greener grass elsewhere). If you can't do the job you were hired for then why on earth do you think you're worth the base rate for that job? Increasingly, I'm becoming a fan of performance based pay - the problem is it is difficult to gauge performance (although perhaps the best (albeit oversimplified) way is "If Mick left tomorrow, what happens?" - If the answer is "No Difference" then it's not really worth chucking more money at me, if the answer is "It'll take a few months to ramp someone up, but we'll survive" then a fairly small payrise might be in order. If the answer is "OMFG, he's not thinking about it, is he?" then I would suggest a large payrise is in order - especially if you know there are jobs being advertised that might be more attractive).

Anywho, unions are organisations that were created to stop the little guy getting screwed. They have now evolved into organisations that guarantee the employer gets screwed.

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Mick:
On my machine, akismet seems to filter all posts by Nagesh, geoffery, Nag-Geoff and a handful of others - I see them quoted, but I don't see their original posts.
I guess when you troll obvioulsy and often, the world eventually realises that anything you say isn't worth bothering with - although there was the boy who cried "wolf"

If you can't handle the truth, censorship is your next best bet!

SEMI-HYBRID code · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

snoofle:
Isn't testing a canister-fueled suppression system without the canister kind of like testing a backup system without the tape? The procedure may look like it passed, but how do you really know?

the procedure was obviously correct in making the system pass as this unprocedurated test showed.

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Kuba:
da Doctah:
snoofle:
I am going to propose that in order to reduce risk, from this point forward all [fire] drills be done by setting actual [fires].

And the Process, as described on the file card, will read "burn this card".
If the process fits on just one cue card, it's not enterprisey enough, for sure.

Don't worry, it's a big stack of cards.

Need enough to get a good fire going, you see.

If more than 10% of the cards survive, then the test is passed, otherwise it fails.

MarkJ · 2011-12-21 Reply Admin

geoffrey:
ObiWayneKenobi:
The real issue is spineless developers who put in hours for death-marches instead of saying "No, I don't care how much you cry like a spoiled kid, this isn't being done in a week".
Seriously, why do most managers act like spoiled children and expect to point and scream and say "Mommy I want that now! now now now" and get it?

You can't be serious. No one "owes" a programmer a job. Project timing is driven by knowledgable people at the top of an organization, who are responsible for responding to market conditions that affect the company. Staying at the top of your game is what enables the company to stay in business. A programmer who says "No, I refuse to put in the effort to get the job done" is really saying "The success of the company is not important to me."

Calling someone "spineless" for being a team player says a lot about you.

You may return to underneath your bridge now.

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

I think they should lite-off the data center.

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Unions came about because of the asymmetry between companies and individuals. Google Battle Of The Overpass. Hitler was a big admirer of noted anti-semite Henry Ford. So Godwin this thread.

Any programmer who thinks he's worth something more to a company than any other is playing too much Warcraft. Only true in a very short term.

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Barfo Rama:
Unions came about because of the asymmetry between companies and individuals. Google Battle Of The Overpass. Hitler was a big admirer of noted anti-semite Henry Ford. So Godwin this thread.
Any programmer who thinks he's worth something more to a company than any other is playing too much Warcraft. Only true in a very short term.

meh - works for me so far. When current employer not willing to pay me more, I move on to employer who offering more....

2011-12-21 Reply Admin

Jo:
Joe B:
That is why IT NEEDS unions!
I'm confused - do the onions go with the bacon or on the pizza (or both?)

No, onions go best with troll.

2011-12-22 Reply Admin

JJ:
Mathew:
Dietrich:
Melvis:
"The project plan was buried unter a pile of empty pizza boxes and laptops."
Unter? German flashback.

Der Projektplan wurde begraben Unter einem Stapel von leeren Pizza-Kartons und Laptops.

(Google translated that - my German is less than rusty)
I suspect Google hasn't got a good grasp of German word order.

There's nothing wrong with the word order.
Wanna know how I know you don't speak German?

"begraben" should be at the end of the sentence. Also, "unter" should not be capitalized.

Unter should be capitalized, yes. But "Der Projektplan wurde begraben unter einem Stapel von leeren Pizza-Kartons und Laptops" is a perfectly valid German sentence.

And yes, I am a native speaker.

2011-12-22 Reply Admin

Barfo Rama:
Unions came about because of the asymmetry between companies and individuals. Google Battle Of The Overpass. Hitler was a big admirer of noted anti-semite Henry Ford. So Godwin this thread.
Any programmer who thinks he's worth something more to a company than any other is playing too much Warcraft. Only true in a very short term.

Nice Troll dude.

If people were equal ... I think we'd know by now.

Instead, you have mediocre people pretending all are equal, and excellent people who eventually realize that's a load of bullcrap and they are surrounded by fricken idiots who do less than a fifth of their work.

The world was built by excellent people, not by 'more or less average' - 'don't give a shit' types.

If that's short term - alright fuck the long term.

Pim · 2011-12-22 Reply Admin

RF:
Unter should be capitalized, yes. But "Der Projektplan wurde begraben unter einem Stapel von leeren Pizza-Kartons und Laptops" is a perfectly valid German sentence.
And yes, I am a native speaker.

And you're sure it shouldn't be "Laptöppe"?

2011-12-22 Reply Admin

JJ:
Mathew:
Dietrich:
Melvis:
"The project plan was buried unter a pile of empty pizza boxes and laptops."
Unter? German flashback.

Der Projektplan wurde begraben Unter einem Stapel von leeren Pizza-Kartons und Laptops.

(Google translated that - my German is less than rusty)
I suspect Google hasn't got a good grasp of German word order.

There's nothing wrong with the word order.
Wanna know how I know you don't speak German?

"begraben" should be at the end of the sentence. Also, "unter" should not be capitalized.

Moving on to English:

TFA:
The room stunk of caged programmers...
Whatever happened to the past tense of "stink" being "stank"? The same thing seems to be happening to "sink." Stupid kids.

German is my native language and lectoring german texts is part of my job.

WTF does capitalization have to do word order?

An anonymous source · 2011-12-22 Reply Admin

Mathew:
<snip boring stuff>
German is my native language and lectoring german texts is part of my job.

<snip>

You've passed to lecToring Test and are not a bot?
You're Hannibal-The-Cannibal and are going to eat our texts?
Your German is better than your proof-reading?

Otherwise, fascinating...

2011-12-22 Reply Admin

Slow news day?

That was really quite a lot of unnecessary context padding out the story of the guy pressing the big red button.

Trying too hard?

2011-12-22 Reply Admin

An anonymous source:
Mathew:
<snip boring stuff>
German is my native language and lectoring german texts is part of my job.

<snip>

You've passed to lecToring Test and are not a bot?

You're Hannibal-The-Cannibal and are going to eat our texts?

Your German is better than your proof-reading?

Otherwise, fascinating...

Sorry, don't get it.

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