• (cs)
    Like most server rooms, this electrical equipment's primary purpose was to generate vast quantities of heat, with computation being a bit of an afterthought.
    Well stated.
  • Anon (unregistered)

    Found myself wishing for something similar today, might have to rethink that.

  • (cs)

    That this made it to the front page is TRWTF.

  • GUI Expert (unregistered)

    TRWTF is Visual Basic

  • (cs)

    If the programming team is pulling pizza-fueled all-nighters all weekend a week before go-live, then the company sucks the big one at risk management.

    Especially because they let an inadequately-trained most-junior attempt unsupervised BCP validation testing during the said weekend.

  • (cs)

    Yes. BCP process very important for everyone. Complience requirement for CMM company

  • (cs)

    Isn't testing a canister-fueled suppression system without the canister kind of like testing a backup system without the tape? The procedure may look like it passed, but how do you really know?

    I am going to propose that in order to reduce risk, from this point forward all [fire] drills be done by setting actual [fires].

  • Warren (unregistered) in reply to snoofle

    Yes. But to avoid server damage all servers must be shut down and moved out to another room while the drills take place. Employees need not bother.

  • Tom (unregistered)

    Not to go off on a tangent, but what's an "off-sine" data center?

  • Tim (unregistered) in reply to snoofle
    snoofle:
    Isn't testing a canister-fueled suppression system without the canister kind of like testing a backup system without the tape? The procedure may look like it passed, but how do you really know?

    I am going to propose that in order to reduce risk, from this point forward all [fire] drills be done by setting actual [fires].

    exactly - I never met a computer guy who was content to press the 'test' button on a smoke alarm. Despite what the instructions say, The only way to test a smoke alarm is to hold a match underneath it

  • Tsaot (unregistered) in reply to Tom

    I'm going to assume it means it operates with an offset, or other modification to take it away from being a true sine site. Something like sin(tan(site))+1

  • misogyny (unregistered)

    TRWTF is that Sally wasn't in the kitchen or bedroom, right?

  • (cs)

    The Real WTF is buried under a pile of exaggerated prose, for the story has been edited by Remy Porter.

    Short form: submitter works for a dysfunctional organization where nobody is capable of saying 'no' to unreasonable requests. Noob in the datacenter does something stupid.

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to Tom

    Ha! "tangent"!

  • (cs)

    If the data center is off-sine they need power conditioners, not just backup power.

  • (cs) in reply to Tom
    Tom:
    Not to go off on a tangent, but what's an "off-sine" data center?

    Hold on a sec, cos I was wondering that too.

  • TRWTF (unregistered)

    TRWTF is "Tribal Knowledge"

  • Machtyn (unregistered)

    Mmm, yah... pizza 5 days in a row - for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I've done that a time or two. I was in college. Now I only do pizza for a dinner and a lunch.

  • (cs) in reply to Tim
    Tim:
    snoofle:
    Isn't testing a canister-fueled suppression system without the canister kind of like testing a backup system without the tape? The procedure may look like it passed, but how do you really know?

    I am going to propose that in order to reduce risk, from this point forward all [fire] drills be done by setting actual [fires].

    exactly - I never met a computer guy who was content to press the 'test' button on a smoke alarm. Despite what the instructions say, The only way to test a smoke alarm is to hold a match underneath it

    I do, because I know that ionizing detectors have a life span of about 10 years, at which point they will no longer detect any particles but will pass a button test (which only tests the sounding device and battery, from what I can tell).
  • Joe (unregistered) in reply to Tom
    Tom:
    Not to go off on a tangent, but what's an "off-sine" data center?

    It was a typo. The "s" should have been an "l".

    --Joe

  • Kerin (unregistered) in reply to misogyny

    Or under her husband's desk, yeah?

  • My name (unregistered) in reply to TRWTF
    TRWTF:
    TRWTF is "Tribal Knowledge"

    Then you have not synergized your paradigm with the best-practices, value-added matrix of agile leadership principles to maximize the voice of the customer in your process-oriented approach.

  • (cs)

    "John grabbed another slice of pizza and took a moment to review the project status and gather his thoughts. The project plan was buried unter a pile of empty pizza boxes and laptops. The room stunk of caged programmers, grease, and deadlines. At least it wouldn't be too much longer, now. John finished his slice and got back to work."

    Hey Remy, I fixed this for you:

    "John grabbed another slice of pizza and took a moment to review the pizza status and gather his pizza. The pizza plan was buried unter a pile of empty pizza boxes and pizza crusts. The room stunk of caged programmers, grease, and breadsticks. At least there wouldn't be any more pizza much longer, now. John pizzad his pizza and pizza back to pizzaing pizza."

  • (cs) in reply to Tom
    Tom:
    Not to go off on a tangent, but what's an "off-sine" data center?

    One that runs on DC power???

  • (cs) in reply to Joe
    Joe:
    Tom:
    Not to go off on a tangent, but what's an "off-sine" data center?

    It was a typo. The "s" should have been an "l".

    --Joe

    That was a typo, the "n" should should be a "t". But if we did both, we would have an "off-lite" data center, which is where this company is -- in the dark.

  • My name (unregistered) in reply to misogyny
    misogyny:
    TRWTF is that Sally wasn't in the kitchen or bedroom, right?

    Well, long tall Sally, she's built for speed She got everything that Uncle John need

  • (cs) in reply to Rootbeer
    Rootbeer:

    Short form: submitter works for a dysfunctional organization where nobody is capable of saying 'no' to unreasonable requests. Noob in the datacenter does something stupid.

    Damn you're verbose. Remy summarized it even better than you did:

    "Easy Reader Version: RTFM, n00b."

    RTFHTMLC.

  • Ike (unregistered) in reply to Joe
    Joe:
    Tom:
    Not to go off on a tangent, but what's an "off-sine" data center?

    It was a typo. The "s" should have been an "l".

    --Joe

    Post of the week, folks, right here. Thank you, "--Joe", I was really scratchin' the ol' noggin wondering what they meant by that. Could they really have meant the trigonometry function? What does that have to do with a data center? Is this a new kind of data center? Is "off-sine" anything like "off the grid"? Why would you want a data center to be off the grid? Doesn't it need to be "on the grid" to get power and Internet and stuff?

    Well, I had just about given up figuring it out, when I read your post. It took me a couple of minutes to go back to the original posting and find where it said that, and I ended up cutting and pasting it into a MS-Word document, then changing the "s" to an "l" like you said, and, viola, there it was! Off-line -- it's so easy now that you pointed it out.

    People, we need more posters like --Joe. I think there's way too much "cutting down" and jokes that I don't understand in this Internet forum. Can't we get it back to the way it used to be, with gentle joshing, and informative posts like --Joe's?

    So, let's all keep that in mind the next time you want to make a snarky post. Think to yourself, "Would --Joe make a post like this? Or we he just post something helpful instead." I think that if we all work together to become just a little bit better, we can make this little corner of the world a better place, we everyone can have good clean fun and just get along.

    Sincerely,

    Ike

    P.S. I like pizza. And turtles.

  • Mr Clever Ideas (unregistered) in reply to Silfax
    Silfax:
    Tom:
    Not to go off on a tangent, but what's an "off-sine" data center?

    One that runs on DC power???

    Or is going through an unusual phase?
  • Brian (unregistered) in reply to ParkinT
    ParkinT:
    Like most server rooms, this electrical equipment's primary purpose was to generate vast quantities of heat, with computation being a bit of an afterthought.
    Well stated.

    I find this to be very Adamsesque.

  • (cs)

    The real issue is spineless developers who put in hours for death-marches instead of saying "No, I don't care how much you cry like a spoiled kid, this isn't being done in a week".

    Seriously, why do most managers act like spoiled children and expect to point and scream and say "Mommy I want that now! now now now" and get it?

  • From beer to paternity (unregistered) in reply to ObiWayneKenobi

    Because people let them act that way.

  • (cs) in reply to Ike
    Ike:
    Joe:
    Tom:
    Not to go off on a tangent, but what's an "off-sine" data center?

    It was a typo. The "s" should have been an "l".

    --Joe

    Post of the week, folks, right here. Thank you, "--Joe", I was really scratchin' the ol' noggin wondering what they meant by that. Could they really have meant the trigonometry function? What does that have to do with a data center? Is this a new kind of data center? Is "off-sine" anything like "off the grid"? Why would you want a data center to be off the grid? Doesn't it need to be "on the grid" to get power and Internet and stuff?

    Well, I had just about given up figuring it out, when I read your post. It took me a couple of minutes to go back to the original posting and find where it said that, and I ended up cutting and pasting it into a MS-Word document, then changing the "s" to an "l" like you said, and, viola, there it was! Off-line -- it's so easy now that you pointed it out.

    People, we need more posters like --Joe. I think there's way too much "cutting down" and jokes that I don't understand in this Internet forum. Can't we get it back to the way it used to be, with gentle joshing, and informative posts like --Joe's?

    So, let's all keep that in mind the next time you want to make a snarky post. Think to yourself, "Would --Joe make a post like this? Or we he just post something helpful instead." I think that if we all work together to become just a little bit better, we can make this little corner of the world a better place, we everyone can have good clean fun and just get along.

    Sincerely,

    Ike

    P.S. I like pizza. And turtles.

    Look like Ike want to go out with Joe and have good time.

  • Bob (unregistered)

    You only get paid a bit more than a late shift shelf packer.

    If you changed job, it would be a little less money, but at least you'd have the day free.

    When are you getting a chance to spend it?

    This sort of story always worries me, these are supposed to the clever people.

  • John (unregistered) in reply to Tom

    No idea. I'll go ask my cosine.

  • Jerry (unregistered)

    Just so you know, when the customer who told your salesman he might buy your product (if it had $BIGNUM new features by $TOMORROW) actually sees the demo, where it crashes every three minutes and looks like hammered crap, and decides to buy $MATURE_PRODUCT instead, your manager, who spoke highly of your great loyalty during the pointless deathmarch, won't be bothered to stop scratching his balls long enough to save you from the inevitable layoffs that follow the loss of the big sale.

    I mean, you can work to midnight every night if you want, if your job is as fun as playing video games for example, just don't expect the slightest trickle of loyalty to flow in the opposite direction next time you are the one who needs something.

  • anonymous (unregistered) in reply to Ike
    Ike:

    P.S. I like pizza. And turtles.

    Turtles are crunchy.

  • Melvis (unregistered)

    "The project plan was buried unter a pile of empty pizza boxes and laptops."

    Unter? German flashback.

    Der Projektplan wurde begraben Unter einem Stapel von leeren Pizza-Kartons und Laptops.

    (Google translated that - my German is less than rusty)

  • (cs) in reply to snoofle
    snoofle:
    I am going to propose that in order to reduce risk, from this point forward all [fire] drills be done by setting actual [fires].

    And the Process, as described on the file card, will read "burn this card".

  • (cs) in reply to ObiWayneKenobi
    ObiWayneKenobi:
    The real issue is spineless developers who put in hours for death-marches instead of saying "No, I don't care how much you cry like a spoiled kid, this isn't being done in a week".

    Seriously, why do most managers act like spoiled children and expect to point and scream and say "Mommy I want that now! now now now" and get it?

    Because if you don't do it they'll fire you and find somebody who will.

  • (cs) in reply to Joe
    Joe:
    Tom:
    Not to go off on a tangent, but what's an "off-sine" data center?

    It was a typo. The "s" should have been an "l".

    --Joe

    erm, no. it was supposed to be off-siTe

  • Doc (unregistered) in reply to My name
    My name:
    misogyny:
    TRWTF is that Sally wasn't in the kitchen or bedroom, right?

    Well, long tall Sally, she's built for speed She got everything that Uncle John need

    Aw baby, I'm gonna have me some fun, I'm gonna have me some fun, I'm gonna have me some fun.

  • (cs) in reply to Tim

    There are actually safe ways to fully test smoke detectors (test smoke in a can). No actual fires involved.

  • (cs) in reply to snoofle
    snoofle:
    Joe:
    Tom:
    Not to go off on a tangent, but what's an "off-sine" data center?

    It was a typo. The "s" should have been an "l".

    --Joe

    erm, no. it was supposed to be off-siTe

    While your explanation may be technically correct, Joe's is by far the better one. Consider your geek credentials revoked.

  • (cs)

    This story reminds me of my work environment. Testers/technicians making dumb mistakes, not following every instruction to a T, or just throwing up their hands and quitting when they see something off led to my company requiring that a qualified engineer be present throughout the entire test procedure. Mainly my job during this time is to answer trivial questions to keep things moving along.

  • fritters (unregistered) in reply to John
    John:
    No idea. I'll go ask my cosine.

    I cosined a loan once, at least for a period.

  • (cs) in reply to anonymous
    anonymous:
    Ike:
    P.S. I like pizza. And turtles.
    Turtles are crunchy.
    Crunchy turtles are okay, but only when sealed in a succulent Swiss quintuple smooth treble cream milk chocolate envelope and lovingly frosted with glucose.
  • Jeff (unregistered)

    TRWTF is the fact that some people here don't get that a programming team is pulling pizza-fueled all-nighters all week long will provide this site loads of WTFs.

    Be patient young one.

  • Your Name (unregistered) in reply to operagost
    operagost:
    Tim:
    snoofle:
    Isn't testing a canister-fueled suppression system without the canister kind of like testing a backup system without the tape? The procedure may look like it passed, but how do you really know?

    I am going to propose that in order to reduce risk, from this point forward all [fire] drills be done by setting actual [fires].

    exactly - I never met a computer guy who was content to press the 'test' button on a smoke alarm. Despite what the instructions say, The only way to test a smoke alarm is to hold a match underneath it

    I do, because I know that ionizing detectors have a life span of about 10 years, at which point they will no longer detect any particles but will pass a button test (which only tests the sounding device and battery, from what I can tell).

    I test my apartment's smoke alarm, whether I want to or not, about once per week by frying bacon in my kitchen.

  • (cs) in reply to Your Name
    Your Name:
    I test my apartment's smoke alarm, whether I want to or not, about once per week by frying bacon in my kitchen.
    Fool! Baked bacon is infinitely better.

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