• some random loser on the internet (unregistered)

    Am I the only one that read the cards (written for kids) as:

    forty five divided by nine equals five

    eleven divided by zero equals zero

    eight divided by zero equals zero

    since children are taught to read the number under the division bar, then the number to the left, then to give the answer?

    So while you might see it as: zero divides into eleven equals zero, that's not how a child would read it to you.

    Additionally, given the example above it of forty five divided by nine equals five, how could you be confused that this was the intent they had?

    I'm SO confused how you generally intelligent people didn't understand that, and I have to assume that you are all so skilled at trolling that you make everything you say seem as tho you weren't trolling, when in fact every post you make here is a troll.

    I have to think that's what you guys have going on. That everything is a troll.

  • L. (unregistered) in reply to sleiN13
    sleiN13:
    http://www.cnbc.pt/jpmatos/29.%20Bradley.pdf

    If you want to know more about SAM (Self-Assessment Manikin)

    I believe that once again psychologists have demonstrated their work is not science.

    That SAM thing is the biggest joke ever, the very idea of exposing anything else than children to it is retarded ... and anyone responsible for that is retarded as well for not realizing that.

  • L. (unregistered) in reply to Matt Westwood
    Matt Westwood:
    Yokel:
    The picture of the bathroom door with transparent glass could be using stuff like this Electric Privacy Glass Apparently Akismet this this is spam :-(

    Yeah I can see how that works. They put up a cartoon or something when someone's in there.

    Imagine the power outage situation.

    "There I was, watching this episode of Family Guy and I was suddenly watching some guy sitting on the can. Thought it was just Seth Macfarlane being surreal for a minute ..."

    And then I took an arrow in the knee ...

  • L. (unregistered) in reply to This is not my real name
    This is not my real name:
    "Ha ha, those stoopid psychologists don't know what they're doing, I could do psychology much better than that with my computer science degree."

    You know what you guys sound like? You sound like a bunch of HR managers discussing programming.

    Nice trolling dude . but anyone comparing psychology to science when speaking about SAM . is retarded.

  • L. (unregistered) in reply to This is not my real name
    This is not my real name:
    Kemp:
    Given the sarcasm in both responses, I'm assuming you're trolling. However, I am interested in this discussion, so...

    Expertise as a computer scientist isn't important here. What's important is being a person reading a piece of paper that was posted to them. Maybe it's different where you are and the symbols make perfect sense (could be valid, I've heard stranger things). To me though, and at least the submitter and several other commenters here, they have no meaning without an attached explanation. I'm assuming that in any environment where they're normally used, the person answered would at least be given the basics ("this one represents how excited you are"). From the look of the sheet posted, there is no explanation.

    The top one is obvious. The middle one is the most confusing (exploding, or how orgasmic the ride was maybe?). The bottom one I had a guess for, which was wrong (how spacious or cramped the car seemed).

    I'm not trolling actually. It seems strange to me that people would not get those images. Would you honestly not know which one to choose? Maybe the fact that I live with a psychologist has influenced me a bit.

    Anyway, I have no idea about the correct way to use the manikins in a study. Maybe they're supposed to come with an explanation, maybe not. Maybe this is a stupid situation to use them, maybe not. But I doubt anyone on here does know.

    I do agree that it's funny to see something like that in a car rental survey. But some of the comments on here ridicule the whole idea of using the drawings. That's what my comment was about.

    Well, even with trolling mode off I am inclined to tell you that a) you are retarded, b) everyone here knows those SAM drawings are fail c) I don't feel explodey, thank you very much. d) the only thing I've heard of that feels like internal explosion is female orgasm, unfortunately I don't get those

    AS a summary, I had a son who was a SAM and let me assure you, not being able to have female orgasms is no laughing matter !

  • L. (unregistered) in reply to DaveK
    DaveK:
    Shmoopty:
    You are correct. That's a valid flashcard and NOT division by zero. It's division by 12.
    The post to which you are replying is indeed correct, but it disagrees with you, since it says that the card *does* show division by zero. That's what
    The number to the left is the divisor
    means. Ask yourself whether this diagram is really showing the result of dividing thirty-seven into one-and-a-quarter-million equal parts: [image] or whether it shows a very large number divided by a small one. After answering that question, remember that the zero on the flashcard is where the 37 is in this diagram, and then try and figure out whether 12 is being divided by zero or not one more time.
    Shmoopty:
    Dividing zero into 12 equal parts is pretty easy. Even for me.
    But reading comprehension apparently is not.

    Anyway god bless America for the "retard division" where people thought it'd be smart to put the divider on the left for no f*ing reason.

    Funny thing is .. you guys drive on the right, but yet you managed to keep a division operation on the left . wonderful truly. (we do that same division thing in europe, except the correct term is in the correct spot, divider on the right, the result goes below rather than above .. and it's overall cleaner

  • Cbuttius (unregistered)

    Whilst infinity is not actually a number, there is a concept of a limit as a n tends to infinity, and that limit can itself be infinity.

    k/x tends to infinity as x tends to 0 (if k is any constant).

    Whoever asked about the 0th root of 12, that is not infinity. x to the power of 0 never moves from being 1 no matter how high x is.

  • Cbuttius (unregistered)

    For a formal definition of what "tends to a constant" means and "tends to infinity" means:

    In a limit tends to infinity, it means that for any N it will go above N once you get to a certain point in your sequence.

    For it to tend to a constant, it means for any infinitessimal delta, it will be within delta of your constant once you pass a certain point in the sequence.

    The same applies for "as x tends to infinity" and "as x tends to 0" (or any other constant). In the first case it means you will be able to find a high value (M) that once you pass this value, your condition applies. And in the latter case you find an epsilon such that when you are within epsilon of your target, the condition applies.

  • This is not my real name (unregistered) in reply to L.
    L.:
    This is not my real name:
    "Ha ha, those stoopid psychologists don't know what they're doing, I could do psychology much better than that with my computer science degree."

    You know what you guys sound like? You sound like a bunch of HR managers discussing programming.

    Nice trolling dude . but anyone comparing psychology to science when speaking about SAM . is retarded.

    You're exactly the kind of asshole I was talking about. Apparently you think you know more about psychology than psychologists. What other areas of study are you the final authority on? Judging by your eccentric use of periods, I would say at least linguistics. Must be hard to be the only smart guy in a world full of deluded people. You know, the type that uses periods to end a sentence.

  • tdwright (unregistered)

    Those manikins are taken directly from this '94 research paper: http://www.cnbc.pt/jpmatos/29.%20Bradley.pdf

    They're very commonly used in psychology - but usually to collect responses from children on those with learning difficulties. I'm glad we can now apparently add Avis customers to that list.

  • tdwright (unregistered) in reply to tdwright

    Yeah. I didn't see the previous two pages of comments...

    tdwright:
    Those manikins are taken directly from this '94 research paper: http://www.cnbc.pt/jpmatos/29.%20Bradley.pdf

    They're very commonly used in psychology - but usually to collect responses from children on those with learning difficulties. I'm glad we can now apparently add Avis customers to that list.

  • Rob (unregistered) in reply to Therac-25

    Eh? Your link seems entirely consistent with the picture in TFA, which is consistent with when I learned long division some 40 odd years back.

    Maybe your teacher got it wrong, or maybe your memory.

  • Jon E. (unregistered)

    Expressed as a ratio, the flash card can be shown as 0:12 which was the record of the Indianapolis Colts football team at time of submission.

  • katz (unregistered)
    I'm not trolling actually. It seems strange to me that people would not get those images. Would you honestly not know which one to choose? Maybe the fact that I live with a psychologist has influenced me a bit.

    Even if it was immediately evident that the second and third scales were arousal and dominance...why are arousal and dominance related to car rentals?

  • (cs) in reply to L.
    L.:
    DaveK:
    [ . . . snip . . . ] [image] [ . . . snip . . . ]

    Anyway god bless America for the "retard division" where people thought it'd be smart to put the divider on the left for no f*ing reason.

    I'm from Europe, but even I can perfectly well understand why it's there; it's because it's nearest to the end where you first start subtracting it at. (And none of this has any bearing on whether the flashcard represents division by zero or not).
    L.:
    Funny thing is .. you guys
    I'm not "you guys". I just copied an image from Wikipedia to demonstrate the point that the dividend is the bit under the bar, and the divisor is the bit on the outside; and that's the same in both ways of writing long division anyway.
    L.:
    drive on the right, but yet you managed to keep a division operation on the left . wonderful truly. (we do that same division thing in europe, except the correct term is in the correct spot, divider on the right, the result goes below rather than above .. and it's overall cleaner
    Frankly, if you can't just see the two different forms as trivially isomorphic transformations of exactly the same thing at a glance, you don't really get maths very deeply. I don't care which way it's written, it still means exactly the same thing to me either way.
  • Edwin (unregistered)

    That Careline picture qualifies also for the unnecessary quotes blog as well...

  • laoret (unregistered) in reply to DaveK
    DaveK:
    I'm not "you guys". I just copied an image from Wikipedia to demonstrate the point that the dividend is the bit under the bar, and the divisor is the bit on the outside; and that's the same in both ways of writing long division anyway.

    Uh? No. In Europe the dividend is to the left, outside the "box", the divisor is above the line, the quotient is below the line.

    So yeah, everything is in a different place but you should anyway be able to see them as "trivially isomorphic transformations of exactly the same thing at a glance". Sure they are isomorphic transformations, and simple ones, but you should first understand WTF they mean, and I'd also probe it first, to check if it was guessed right.

    You can look at which number is the greater one as a hint, but that won't work when the children learn that the quotient may be less than 1, too.

  • (cs)

    So what is wrong with the ATM?

    Money removed nightly? Doesn't seem like a WTF to me. Seems like anti-theft.

  • yername (unregistered) in reply to DeLos
    DeLos:
    So what is wrong with the ATM?

    Money removed nightly? Doesn't seem like a WTF to me. Seems like anti-theft.

    Anti-theft? The damn thing is a safe. It has a couple of inches of metal on every side. It's way easier to rob the person moving the money in and out of it on a daily basis..

    I get the first row of pictures: Happy - sad. Np.

    Is the the third row the experience made you feel small - big? This depends very much on one's native culture and language, but I suppose there's some point to it.

    What's the second row then? How much did the ordeal churn your stomach? WTF?

  • (cs) in reply to someone
    someone:
    I would rather be connected to a 'Caroline' than a 'Careline'. I guess they just fired her.
    No, now they just have GLaDOS.
  • MrBester (unregistered) in reply to katz
    It seems strange to me that people would not get those images. Would you honestly not know which one to choose? Maybe the fact that I live with a psychologist has influenced me a bit.

    For the last two rows, no. Was the last one "How close are you to the screen?" Until I looked at comments and saw the research paper I had no idea WTF they represented.

    What every defender here of this psych crap forgets is that although this was used successfully on kids with learning difficulties those kids were still told what the three rows represented. We were not afforded that luxury and are then condemned for our lack of understanding. So fuck you.

  • anonymous (unregistered) in reply to L.
    L.:
    Anyway god bless America for the "retard division" where people thought it'd be smart to put the divider on the left for no f*ing reason.

    Funny thing is .. you guys drive on the right, but yet you managed to keep a division operation on the left . wonderful truly. (we do that same division thing in europe, except the correct term is in the correct spot, divider on the right, the result goes below rather than above .. and it's overall cleaner

    The divisor is on the left to leave room for decimal places. For instance, to do these problems:
                         
8 ) 3        7 ) 5
    you're supposed to add 0s as necessary until your remainder is 0 or repeats, so that you end up with this:
                               
  0.375        0.714285 
8 ) 3.000    7 ) 5.000000
-2 4         -4 9
60           10
-56           -7
40           30
-40          -28
0            20
-14
60
-56
40
-35
5

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