• Juan Williams (unregistered) in reply to frits
    frits:
    Who hasn't done something like this?

    [image]

    Been there, done that; usually, there are a lot more wires involved.

  • PITA (unregistered) in reply to Yo-Yo Mo
    Yo-Yo Mo:
    operagost:
    I'm guessing the kid's shirt should say "crappie," ...

    Not so fast. As many of us know, there are two subspecies of freshwater crap: floaters and sinkers. Sinkers are rarely spotted in the wild and are relatively benign except when disturbed, whereas floaters are frequently observed all over the world and always dangerous in groups [usually referenced as a 'load'].

    Always be wary of a load of crap, especially floaters.

    Has anyone seen my Baby Ruth candy bar?
  • Ken B. (unregistered) in reply to Juan Williams
    Juan Williams:
    frits:
    Who hasn't done something like this?

    (...image snipped...)

    Been there, done that; usually, there are a lot more wires involved.
    Yup. DB-9 is easy. Try DB-25.

  • (cs) in reply to Juan Williams
    Juan Williams:
    frits:
    Who hasn't done something like this?

    [image]

    Been there, done that; usually, there are a lot more wires involved.
    A few weeks ago, I had a video card that came with a low-profile bracket that excluded the VGA connector. Since I needed the VGA connector, I ordered a random low profile conversion kit from NewEgg. It turns out that not all VGA pigtails are wired the same, and the old one was too short to fit the new bracket. So, I broke out the soldering iron and wired the new pigtail just like the old one. A dozen people at work thought I was nuts, and a few even warned me that I had voided my warranty (on a $30 video card). Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

  • (cs) in reply to Ken B.
    Ken B.:
    Juan Williams:
    frits:
    Who hasn't done something like this?

    (...image snipped...)

    Been there, done that; usually, there are a lot more wires involved.
    Yup. DB-9 is easy. Try DB-25.

    Try a military circle connector with 100+ pins and a wiring diagram you hope is right.

  • (cs) in reply to Ken B.
    Ken B.:
    Juan Williams:
    frits:
    Who hasn't done something like this?

    (...image snipped...)

    Been there, done that; usually, there are a lot more wires involved.
    Yup. DB-9 is easy. Try DB-25.
    Try a DE-15. The middle row is the killer.

  • boog (unregistered) in reply to frits
    frits:
    Ken B.:
    Juan Williams:
    frits:
    Who hasn't done something like this?

    (...image snipped...)

    Been there, done that; usually, there are a lot more wires involved.
    Yup. DB-9 is easy. Try DB-25.

    Try a military circle connector with 100+ pins and a wiring diagram you hope is right.

    Try a WOMAN-18. Oh, yeah. It's hard.
  • Dan (unregistered) in reply to frits
    frits:
    Seriously? Alex is going to make fun of people for their spelling?

    No, he's posting other people's entries that make fun of spelling. It's a way of featuring the hoardes who come to TDWTF just to make fun of spelling.

  • acsi (unregistered) in reply to boog
    boog:
    frits:
    Ken B.:
    Juan Williams:
    frits:
    Who hasn't done something like this?

    (...image snipped...)

    Been there, done that; usually, there are a lot more wires involved.
    Yup. DB-9 is easy. Try DB-25.

    Try a military circle connector with 100+ pins and a wiring diagram you hope is right.

    Try a WOMAN-18. Oh, yeah. It's hard.
    Luckily, you only have to make one connection. Trying two is not advised.
  • Dan (unregistered) in reply to boog
    boog:
    frits:
    Ken B.:
    Juan Williams:
    frits:
    Who hasn't done something like this?

    (...image snipped...)

    Been there, done that; usually, there are a lot more wires involved.
    Yup. DB-9 is easy. Try DB-25.

    Try a military circle connector with 100+ pins and a wiring diagram you hope is right.

    Try a WOMAN-18. Oh, yeah. It's hard.

    Especially since one day you might hook it up and it works right, but the next day with the same configuration it just explodes on you.

  • Jack (unregistered) in reply to MrBigDog2U
    MrBigDog2U:
    The "Please Prepay in Advance" reminds me of football announcers who remind us that the post-game show will be taking place immediately AFTER the game.
    Yes, but that's football, where words longer than four letters or sentences longer than 6 words (not counting expletives) run a severe risk of inducing buffer overflow in the audience.
  • What happened? (unregistered)

    Normally I enjoy the circus that is these comments. Did everyone go to lunch?

  • (cs) in reply to frits
    frits:
    chris:
    I like the way the mobile-server-room picture is tall enough to get a first reaction out of you *before* you scroll down and see what's on the bottom.
    You either need a new pair of glasses or a new video card.

    Y'know, not everybody runs all their applications full-screen all the time.

  • Slicerwizard (unregistered) in reply to Dan
    Dan:
    frits:
    Seriously? Alex is going to make fun of people for their spelling?

    No, he's posting other people's entries that make fun of spelling. It's a way of featuring the hoardes who come to TDWTF just to make fun of spelling.

    hoardes??
  • boog (unregistered) in reply to Slicerwizard
    Slicerwizard:
    Dan:
    frits:
    Seriously? Alex is going to make fun of people for their spelling?

    No, he's posting other people's entries that make fun of spelling. It's a way of featuring the hoardes who come to TDWTF just to make fun of spelling.

    hoardes??
    I think he meant to write "whoreds".

    CAPTCHA: damnum -- nice!

  • Bear (unregistered)

    Fuzzy logic is not a WTF on embedded systems, like rice burners...

  • Ben (unregistered) in reply to frits
    frits:
    Ken B.:
    Juan Williams:
    frits:
    Who hasn't done something like this?

    (...image snipped...)

    Been there, done that; usually, there are a lot more wires involved.
    Yup. DB-9 is easy. Try DB-25.

    Try a military circle connector with 100+ pins and a wiring diagram you hope is right.

    God, yeah. And whatever you do, don't try to plug one in to a PRC-E-8. They don't like that at all!

  • (cs)

    On the help page for one of the local ISPs, where it explains the different account options, it includes the phrase: "Prepaid accounts are those that are prepaid in advance."

  • (cs) in reply to Doozerboy
    Doozerboy:
    TRWTF is the absolute munter Peer1 has chosen to be 'face' of their sidebar ads.
    Do you mean the guy named 'Rob' at the top of their site? I see what you mean (YEECH!).

    On the other hand, Wenceslyne (is that REALLY her name?) looks like a babe, though. I wonder how many $/min. her 'Chat' costs? :D

  • Brian Enigma (unregistered)

    "Fuzzy logic" is pretty standard on most Japanese rice cookers, actually.

  • (cs) in reply to Ben
    Ben:
    And whatever you do, don't try to plug one in to a PRC-E-8. They don't like that at all!

    LOL. They don't like much of anything, really.

  • (cs) in reply to Jack
    Jack:
    MrBigDog2U:
    The "Please Prepay in Advance" reminds me of football announcers who remind us that the post-game show will be taking place immediately AFTER the game.
    Yes, but that's football, where words longer than four letters or sentences longer than 6 words (not counting expletives) run a severe risk of inducing buffer overflow in the audience.

    Ok, so how else are they supposed to inform the viewers that little or no time will pass between the end of the game and the start of the post game show?

  • wtf (unregistered) in reply to Helix
    Helix:
    Rice cooker fuzzy logic is not a WTF. Fuzzy logic is often used in temperature control as a quick solution to a non-linear problem.

    WTF? What's nonlinear about cooking rice? Turn on power. Check temperature. When temperature > 212 F, cut the power. Done.

  • (cs) in reply to wtf
    wtf:
    Helix:
    Rice cooker fuzzy logic is not a WTF. Fuzzy logic is often used in temperature control as a quick solution to a non-linear problem.

    WTF? What's nonlinear about cooking rice? Turn on power. Check temperature. When temperature > 212 F, cut the power. Done.

    You've never actually cooked rice, have you?

  • The Sussman (unregistered)

    This is just stupid.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_logic

    Many appliances use fuzzy logic for control.

  • swordfishBob (unregistered)

    I spy JTEC on the bottom of the precarious stack. Is that photo from Australia?

  • wtf (unregistered) in reply to frits
    frits:
    wtf:

    WTF? What's nonlinear about cooking rice? Turn on power. Check temperature. When temperature > 212 F, cut the power. Done.

    You've never actually cooked rice, have you?

    Not since, well, dinner, actually. Seriously, that's how your standard rice cooker works: you add the correct amount of water, and push the button. The button turns on the heating element, which turns itself off when the temperature goes above boiling point - that is, when there's no more water in the pan. Marvellous, isn't it?

  • (cs) in reply to frits
    frits:
    TRWTF is news anchors. I mean, what's up with those people?

    And airline food. Am I right, people? And how about those convenience stores; what's the deal there?

    TRWTF is people who go through life pretending to be Jerry Seinfeld.

  • (cs) in reply to da Doctah
    da Doctah:
    frits:
    TRWTF is news anchors. I mean, what's up with those people?

    And airline food. Am I right, people? And how about those convenience stores; what's the deal there?

    TRWTF is people who go through life pretending to be Jerry Seinfeld.

    ...or pretending to be doctors.

  • (cs) in reply to wtf
    wtf:
    frits:
    wtf:

    WTF? What's nonlinear about cooking rice? Turn on power. Check temperature. When temperature > 212 F, cut the power. Done.

    You've never actually cooked rice, have you?

    Not since, well, dinner, actually. Seriously, that's how your standard rice cooker works: you add the correct amount of water, and push the button. The button turns on the heating element, which turns itself off when the temperature goes above boiling point - that is, when there's no more water in the pan. Marvellous, isn't it?

    Sorry, I cook rice on the stove. I can tell you that the function of heat applied to temperature is not linear. As long as there is water, the temperature will not go over the boiling point no matter how much heat you apply. However, the boiling point shifts when you cover the pan due to increased pressure. Also, rice is better cooked by applying just enough heat to keep the boil going and not much more.

  • wtf (unregistered) in reply to frits
    frits:
    wtf:
    frits:
    wtf:

    WTF? What's nonlinear about cooking rice? Turn on power. Check temperature. When temperature > 212 F, cut the power. Done.

    You've never actually cooked rice, have you?

    Not since, well, dinner, actually. Seriously, that's how your standard rice cooker works: you add the correct amount of water, and push the button. The button turns on the heating element, which turns itself off when the temperature goes above boiling point - that is, when there's no more water in the pan. Marvellous, isn't it?

    Sorry, I cook rice on the stove. I can tell you that the function of heat applied to temperature is not linear. As long as there is water, the temperature will not go over the boiling point no matter how much heat you apply. However, the boiling point shifts when you cover the pan due to increased pressure. Also, rice is better cooked by applying just enough heat to keep the boil going and not much more.

    Yeah, no argument on any of that. If you're cooking rice on the stove you have to pay attention and stuff. That's one of the reasons I use a rice cooker most of the time - for almost everything I do, it comes out as good as I need it to, and it keeps a burner free, which is handy.

    But if you're talking about rice cookers, there's nothing very fuzzy about their logic. They just pop when the water's gone, and they use a neat trick to figure out when that is. That's all.

  • imgx64 (unregistered)

    I looked at the page source, why is this commented out?

    <!-- <p><a name="PPic4"></a></p> <blockquote> <p><a href="#PPic4"><img border="0" alt="" src="https://thedailywtf.com/images/201010/spons/MySouvenir.jpg" /></a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> -->

    For people too lazy to copy and paste: [image]

  • Tanuki (unregistered) in reply to Incourced

    [quote=Incourced] It annoys the hell out of me when my colleague uses Fuzzy Logic, to mean something which has not been thought through. [/quote] I thought it's a synonym for very deep nesting.

    [quote=Zadeh]Good to see the general state of CS education is still poor enough that the snarky, holier than thou editors here are wholly ignorant of my highly influential contributions to control theory. At least they get to look like jack-asses because of it. [/quote] So sad only 5% max of the readers realize this.

    [quote=MrBigDog2U]The "Please Prepay in Advance" reminds me of football announcers who remind us that the post-game show will be taking place immediately AFTER the game. [/quote] So, you think it would be more accurate to state it in a way "the time gap between the game and the post-game show is nil"?

    catcha: dignissim - dig NIS sim? Whoever still uses NIS and sees simulation of it as a subject for dig? I confus.

  • chunder thunder (unregistered) in reply to wtf
    wtf:
    But if you're talking about rice cookers, there's nothing very fuzzy about their logic. They just pop when the water's gone, and they use a neat trick to figure out when that is. That's all.

    The cheap ones do this, but the high-end ones like that Zojirushi are really a lot more sophisticated than just holding the water at boiling. They adjust behavior to account for the amount of water used, the humidity/pressure, etc, and give extremely consistent results. There's a lot more to it than there is in the cheap $30 ones.

  • Uncle Ug (unregistered)

    The BVR-20 one may be on purpose... The manual for it contains lots of, ahem, "Humour"...

    Unwarranted abuse is: (A) physical damage (don’t use the BVD-20 / BVH-20 / BVR-20 to level out a bookcase); (B) improper connections (120 volts into the power jack can fry the poor thing); (C) sadistic things. This is the best product we know how to build, but if you mount it to the filter pump of a hot tub, something will probably go wrong.

  • LB (unregistered) in reply to wtf
    wtf:
    But if you're talking about rice cookers, there's nothing very fuzzy about their logic. They just pop when the water's gone, and they use a neat trick to figure out when that is. That's all.
    That used to be all they did, and maybe for the cheap ones it still is. But the more sophisticated ones track how the cooking is going from moment to moment, and adjust the heat accordingly. They're able to produce much better and more consistent results than the ones whose heating element has only the two states of "on" or "off".
  • Worf (unregistered) in reply to chunder thunder
    chunder thunder:
    wtf:
    But if you're talking about rice cookers, there's nothing very fuzzy about their logic. They just pop when the water's gone, and they use a neat trick to figure out when that is. That's all.

    The cheap ones do this, but the high-end ones like that Zojirushi are really a lot more sophisticated than just holding the water at boiling. They adjust behavior to account for the amount of water used, the humidity/pressure, etc, and give extremely consistent results. There's a lot more to it than there is in the cheap $30 ones.

    Not to mention they've been around for over a decade and a half now - back when fuzzy logic was the "in" thing. Now it's expected to be a standard part of any rice cooker that's worth using. A modern rice cooker can also cook a lot more than just rice, too.

  • YaUCanUcumInOnSatrda&uhSunda2 (unregistered) in reply to airdrik

    I'd like some shrimp flied lice, no beef, & fo chicken wings fried hard & sh!t.

  • IsRetro (unregistered)

    Using paper clips as a kludge on a DB-9 port? This has been done before, without insulation: http://www.stefanbaur.de/sneakpreview/bilder/computer/routerflash.jpg (Silly Spam filter won't let me link the URL)

  • Admiral Ackbar in the Return of the Meme (unregistered)

    IT'S A CRAB!

  • European (unregistered)

    Why is it that all US-Americans are geographical tards and have no culture except for hamburgers and killing indians.

  • (cs) in reply to European
    European:
    Why is it that all US-Americans are geographical tards and have no culture except for hamburgers and killing indians.

    Not even. Hamburgers are from, well, Hamburg and the British are way better at killing Indians. Even our TV gets all its ideas from the BBC.

  • Overand (unregistered)

    Sorry to beat up the funny, but in this case, Fuzzy Logic is a sort of rough way of saying "instead of a temperature threshold and a boolean state to control the heater, we're going to vary the power to the heating element." i.e. Most cooking (and cooling) devices simply turn on the cooking element if the temperature passes below a certain level. Fuzzy logic systems - while really a buzzword - will apply different levels of heat based on how far away from the ideal temperature the rice is.

    Of course, it's all really marketing speak in the end, but in theory these sorts of more-flexible-feedback systems can be quite a bit more efficient and effective.

  • distineo (unregistered) in reply to European
    Euro-peón:
    Why is it that all US-Americans are geographical tards and have no culture except for hamburgers and killing indians.
    Why is it that all Euro-peóns think culture is more important than freedom?
  • European (unregistered) in reply to distineo
    distineo:
    Euro-peón:
    Why is it that all US-Americans are geographical tards and have no culture except for hamburgers and killing indians.
    Why is it that all Euro-peóns think culture is more important than freedom?

    We don't. Hence we don't invade foreign countries for dubious reasons and imprison strangers on law free islands. Whereas you US, well, do.

  • Neville Flynn (unregistered) in reply to airdrik
    airdrik:
    I don't like fuzzy rice. I want fluffy rice. Can I get a machine that uses fluffy logic on my rice instead?

    I prefer sticky rice. I want one that uses sticky bits.

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