• (cs) in reply to CaptMorgan

    Anonymous:
    Did it cross anyone's mind (inlcuding the original poster) that the purdue kid could have been screwing with him?  I am a "Twenty-Something" working iwth guys my dad's age and i screw with them all the time...they seem to lack sarcasm.

    I think the OP has been had.  And if i was the engineer and saw this post I would probably die laughing.:D

    <FONT face="Courier New" size=2>oh, go knock your boots together and start a party or something.</FONT>

  • CaptMorgan (unregistered) in reply to emptyset
    emptyset:

    <font face="Courier New" size="2">oh, go knock your boots together and start a party or something.</font>



    /insert pointless comment to defend my point and make fun of the old fart posting above
  • Matt Britt (unregistered) in reply to Alex Papadimoulis
    Alex Papadimoulis:
    What class would this be taught in? Core ComSci coureses are Data Structures, Hardware & Arch, Op Sys, Compiler Design -- the only one I could see it being used in is Hardware & Architecture, but then again, it isn't really necessary to use hex to teach H&A.

    Quite so.  I often find myself more and more surprised at the sorts of things people can get away with NOT knowing after completing a CS degree.  It's surprising that someone would finish a CS programme with no knowledge of numeral systems in general, but it's hardly inconceivable given some of the glaring omissions I've seen in the past.  Most schools do a fairly poor job of teaching numeral systems and radix unless you explicity need to use them anyway.

    Incidentally, at some of the schools I'm familiar with (who aren't well known for their CS, but are very good schools nonetheless) computer architecture isn't really even a requirement anymore.  I think it's quite possible to meet a CS graduate who couldn't even begin to describe how a single-cycle datapath in your average Von Neumann machine flows.
  • (cs) in reply to Matt Britt

    Anonymous:
    I think it's quite possible to meet a CS graduate who couldn't even begin to describe how a single-cycle datapath in your average Von Neumann machine flows.

    <FONT face="Courier New" size=2>the flows?</FONT>

  • (cs) in reply to Ron G

    > There is not a single Computer Science degree on the planet that doesn't contain numerous areas where hex is used and taught extensively. A CompSci graduate not knowing about hex is like a mathematician not knowing about addition.


    We had a CompSci graduate turn up to interview. It was obvious he didn't have what it takes and we downgraded the questions to make him feel less stupid when he left.

    "What's hexadecimal notation?" was answered with "a mix of letters and numbers"


  • Adam (unregistered) in reply to MikeB

    My CS degree didn't focus on hex's too much.

    Oh, 'n I'm hungry...  

  • Gorshkov (unregistered) in reply to Ara Pehlivanian

    Only 1 in 10 people understand binary

  • (cs) in reply to johnl
    johnl:
    You read the entire thread? I thought I had a lot of time on my hands!


    If you don't have time to read, you don't have time to write.
  • Joe Ganley (unregistered) in reply to Colonel Angus

    ... and even if they are required for the degree, doesn't mean a grad actually knows them.  We all know people with degrees (some from reasonable schools) who don't appear to know much of anything.

  • Karpor (unregistered) in reply to x002548
    x002548:
    HEX!  I Love HEX.  Who doesn't Love HEX.  The guy must be a virgin not to like HEX....I would like to have HEX 3, 4 5 times a day...but that would get in the way of the making money thing...I guess I could have HEX for money...but then there's that health thing.... Oh, wait, you mean HEX, base 16, not S...ummm never mind....   PDP/11...pssh   How about PDP 8/e...or even timesharing on 10cts TTY's
  • (cs) in reply to TheDauthi
    TheDauthi:
    I would really love to call bull on this one.  I went to a fairly poor school not known for engineering, and hex was still taught in one of the first few required classes.  This was a mere 3 years ago.  The idea that a programmer not at least know what hex is boggles my mind so completely I simply cannot believe it.  Especially if he's working with hardware, I guess I could see it with a guy who writes nothing but a quick web page here and there.
    Interestingly enough, the guy that writes the quick web page here and there probably knows hex pretty well (to FF at least), since it's the best way to express color declarations in HTML/CSS.
  • (cs)

    I don't see the problem, the guy had a Computer Science degree, not a Sorcery and Witchcraft one, so it's only natural that he doesn't know how to Hex..

  • freekofnature (unregistered) in reply to ZippoLag

    Not only is it in HEX, it's actually EBCDIC! and I can read it as easily as I read this blog... and I'm a PHYSICIST!

    OK, a very literate physicist, but still... How can you claim to understand CS without knowing the internals of the hardware? The Von Neumann architcture? (Atanasof) (Eckert and Mauchley)etc... and of course the legendary Gene Amdahl...

  • Greg (unregistered)

    Says volumes for Purdue. How can you get a Computer Science degree and know NOTHING about hexidecimal? Perhaps most of our politicians got their degrees at Purdue...

  • Tony Kollias (unregistered)

    EPIC FAIL !!!!! "1 hour to learn something that will be no use to him" ? HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHAHHA

  • Tony Kollias (unregistered) in reply to ZippoLag

    hahahaha.....i think we should take a break from RPG's ! :)

  • (cs) in reply to Tony Kollias

    OK, old thread..but anyway...

    Octal worked better than Hex for one very specific reason...

    You cold use an old priniting calculator (the ones with a vertical bar at each position that moved up/down to the right digit (or symbol) before the striker engaged.

    I remember very well dealing with these back at the start of my career (early 1970's).

    And FWIW, I still own (and occasionally use- but just for Fun) a DEC PDP-8/E along with a few teletypes....

  • u2011 (unregistered) in reply to Matt B

    I dont think it should even qualify as a school.

  • (cs) in reply to kaj
    kaj:
    A friend of mine swears that more than half the CS graduates he interviews can't tell him what 5 is in binary, even if given all the time they want and pen and paper.

    Much more fun to ask them to express it in Unary!

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  • Oscar (unregistered) in reply to Mung Kee

    00 01 10 makes 3 different not two. Ok?

  • jay (unregistered) in reply to Ron G

    "There is not a single Computer Science degree on the planet that doesn't contain numerous areas where hex is used and taught extensively. A CompSci graduate not knowing about hex is like a mathematician not knowing about addition."

    There are two key assumptions in that sentence: (1) Every Computer Science program on the planet is designed by intelligent and rational people who thoroughly understand the field. And (2) Every graduate of every program in the world has fully mastered all the material.

    (1) is questionable. (2) is absurd. I've met many graduates of computer science programs in my career who demonstrate astounding ignorance of what I would consider the basics.

  • jay (unregistered) in reply to TheCPUWizard

    "And FWIW, I still own (and occasionally use- but just for Fun) a DEC PDP-8/E along with a few teletypes...."

    I remember when we replaced our ASR-33 teletypes with DecWriters. The teletypes ran at 330 baud. The DecWriters ran at 1200 baud. I was amazed at the astounding speed. I remember telling a co-worker, "These things are so fast, they can print faster than you can read it!"

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