• TRU KVLT metal fan (unregistered) in reply to C-Octothorpe
    C-Octothorpe:
    hoodaticus:
    You finally found the SockPuppetMaster!
    Or, the Master of Puppets, if you will.

    sorry...

    Entry-level hipster garbage.

    It's like louder-pseudo-prog-rock.

  • Sock Puppet #5 (unregistered)
    TFA:
    One thing led to another, and I ended up taking the job - apparently
    This is a VERY awkward choice of wording...
  • Jay (unregistered) in reply to TheCPUWizard

    [quote user="TheCPUWizard"][quote user="JayTangentially reminds me: When I lived on Long Island (an island just off New York City), at one point the government announced that they were working on an evacuation plan in case of natural disaster, war, etc. My father found this hysterically funny. "We can't get people off Long Island who are commuting to work every morning," he said. "How do they think they're going to get EVERYONE off the island?"[/quote]

    Agreed about the evacuation plans [and they were for the Shoram Nuclear Power plant, not for natural disaster]. but you are backwards in your geography....

    Manhattan (one of the 5 boroughs of NYC] is a small island off the coast of Long Island, as is Staten Island [another borough]. Brooklyn and Queens [two more boroughs] are geographically on Long Island (but not politically) and the final borough The Bronx - only one to properly start with "Tee")is actually on the mainland.[/quote]

    Recently I commented to a friend that "I grew up on an island." Then it suddenly hit me that this surely conjures up an image of pristine beaches and palm trees and hula girls. That's not exactly what Long Island is like. At least, where I lived, it was pretty much one big suburb.

  • Mark Johansen (unregistered) in reply to the beholder
    the beholder:
    Jack:
    Well the original Irish Girl appeared in an ad on this site (don't remember what for... there's the effectiveness of ads for you) and was a cutie in a green hat. After she disappeared, WTFfers found a similar looking girl on the busted-tees site, but I don't think we've ever established that she was the same person.
    The Busted-tee girl is the original. Green hat girl was an author/publisher's probably successful attempt to market his product relating it to an established meme.

    As the author of that book, I'd just like to thank you all for bringing that ad to everyone's attention again. Maybe it will generate a few sales. Practically a free re-run of the ad.

  • Jay (unregistered) in reply to Matt Westwood
    Matt Westwood:
    BOB:
    Years ago I programmed using a 360/44 using punch cards. The antique FORTRAN compiler required all definitions be placed before any computation. You also never commented since comments caused card jams (well that was the legend anyway). Code looked just like the stuff in the example.

    Probably the cause of the WTF. Probably find the programmer was an old Fortran blower who refused to update his paradigms.

    "ALL VARS MUST BE DECLARED AT THE TOP. ALL IN UPPERCASE AND NO VARIABLE NAME LONGER THAN 6 LETTERS. THAT''S HOW IT''S DONE IN FORTRAN. IT''S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME SO IT''S GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU."

    Someone obviously went through afterwards and made the variables lower/camelcase. And added one or two more, with longer names.

    It's the reason why managers are apt to refuse permission for their old boys to be trained in Java.

    That stupid Java programmer screwed it up, though. All integer variables are supposed to start with I, J, K, L, M, or N.

  • Mark Johansen (unregistered)

    PS on the ad for my database book:

    We thought of using the "scan from a photo taken on a wooden table" meme. But Irish Girl was way more fun. There was that grueling couple of days of searching through photos of Irish girls trying to find a suitable model for the ad, but we all must make sacrifices for the good of the company.

  • Mark Johansen (unregistered) in reply to neminem
    neminem:
    Sam:
    A university != its undergrads, you realise... The actual research is done by postgrads and research staff (professors, fellows, etc).
    Unless you go to Reed (I had a friend who went there). Reed College: known primarily for a. its nuclear reactor, and b. its students taking a lot of drugs. How's that for scary?

    p.s. the singular of alumni is totally alumni. Why? Because English isn't Latin. We anglicize foreign words we borrow all the time, there's nothing wrong with that.

    If you were going to Anglicize it, wouldn't you say that the singular is "alumnus" and the plural is "alumnuses"?

    Reminds me of the college professor who was mugged. He reported it to the police, and the policeman said, "So you were attacked by a hoodlum?" He replied, "Actually I was attacked by TWO hoodla."

  • He who is not to be named (aka zunesis) (unregistered) in reply to Mark Johansen
    Mark Johansen:
    As the author of that book, I'd just like to thank you all for bringing that ad to everyone's attention again. Maybe it will generate a few sales. Practically a free re-run of the ad.
    You put the right kind of picture in your ad (*wink wink*) and I'll re-run it myself plenty of times (*wink wink*).

    I'd probably even slink slink my bink-bink, know what I'm sayin'?

    wink

  • Jack (unregistered) in reply to Mark Johansen
    Mark Johansen:
    As the author of that book, I'd just like to thank you all for bringing that ad to everyone's attention again. Maybe it will generate a few sales. Practically a free re-run of the ad.
    So does advertising work? I mean the girl got you tons of attention but were you able to attribute any book sales to it?

    And if so... maybe it is time to feature her again... or one of the runners up...

  • He who is not to be named (aka zunesis) (unregistered) in reply to Jack
    Jack:
    Mark Johansen:
    As the author of that book, I'd just like to thank you all for bringing that ad to everyone's attention again. Maybe it will generate a few sales. Practically a free re-run of the ad.
    So does advertising work? I mean the girl got you tons of attention but were you able to attribute any book sales to it?

    And if so... maybe it is time to feature her again... or one of the runners up...

    Is there some reason why there can only be one at a time?

  • (cs) in reply to Jack
    Jack:
    Mark Johansen:
    As the author of that book, I'd just like to thank you all for bringing that ad to everyone's attention again. Maybe it will generate a few sales. Practically a free re-run of the ad.
    So does advertising work? I mean the girl got you tons of attention but were you able to attribute any book sales to it?

    And if so... maybe it is time to feature her again... or one of the runners up...

    More importantly, do you have any pictures of the runners up to share with the group?

    EDIT: It's pretty sad that I agree with zunesis on something.

  • (cs) in reply to TRU KVLT metal fan
    TRU KVLT metal fan:
    C-Octothorpe:
    hoodaticus:
    You finally found the SockPuppetMaster!
    Or, the Master of Puppets, if you will.

    sorry...

    Entry-level hipster garbage.

    Not when I first started listening to it. Now GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
  • He who is not to be named (aka zunesis) (unregistered) in reply to PedanticCurmudgeon
    PedanticCurmudgeon:
    More importantly, do you have any pictures of the runners up to share with the group?

    EDIT: It's pretty sad that I agree with zunesis on something.

    What else do I talk about? Seems like you don't disagree with me on anything!

    We're two peas in a pod.

    Or two cocks in the same pussy, however you want to say it, we're BROS!

  • He who is not to be named (aka zunesis) (unregistered) in reply to frits
    frits:
    TRU KVLT metal fan:
    C-Octothorpe:
    hoodaticus:
    You finally found the SockPuppetMaster!
    Or, the Master of Puppets, if you will.

    sorry...

    Entry-level hipster garbage.

    Not when I first started listening to it. Now GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
    Actually, yeah it was. By the time MoP came out, the genre had already evolved past that point.
  • Sock Puppet #5 (unregistered) in reply to He who is not to be named (aka zunesis)
    He who is not to be named (aka zunesis):
    frits:
    TRU KVLT metal fan:
    C-Octothorpe:
    hoodaticus:
    You finally found the SockPuppetMaster!
    Or, the Master of Puppets, if you will.

    sorry...

    Entry-level hipster garbage.

    Not when I first started listening to it. Now GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
    Actually, yeah it was. By the time MoP came out, the genre had already evolved past that point.
    He's right, frits.

    Whatever happened to "You Don't Have To Be Old To Be Wise"?

  • Jay (unregistered) in reply to Sock Puppet #5
    Sock Puppet #5:
    He who is not to be named (aka zunesis):
    frits:
    TRU KVLT metal fan:
    C-Octothorpe:
    hoodaticus:
    You finally found the SockPuppetMaster!
    Or, the Master of Puppets, if you will.

    sorry...

    Entry-level hipster garbage.

    Not when I first started listening to it. Now GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
    Actually, yeah it was. By the time MoP came out, the genre had already evolved past that point.
    He's right, frits.

    Whatever happened to "You Don't Have To Be Old To Be Wise"?

    I think the fact that metallica is considered classic by a cranky old curmudgeon pretty defines it as un-metal.

  • the beholder (unregistered) in reply to Mark Johansen
    Jack:
    the beholder:
    delight yourself with T0pCod3r's trolling art. Supposing any of his posts survived the mods's fury, of course.
    T0pCod3r was truly a light in the sewer; I miss him/her/it almost as much as Irish Girl. But I didn't know the busted tees girl was here first. How did she originally arrive?
    I'm not fully sure because it was right before I started reading TDWTF, but the meme was at full power then. Somehow -probably indirectly- busted-tees rent the sidebar ad-space, a few posters commented on her, ahem... huge tracts of land... and the nerdherd disabled ABP and followed.

    I was already here when the new Irish girl arrived tho. She's okay, but didn't cause as much a commotion as the first one.

    Mark Johansen:
    As the author of that book, I'd just like to thank you all for bringing that ad to everyone's attention again.
    Supposing the book is any good, you're welcome.
    Mark Johansen:
    PS on the ad for my database book:

    We thought of using the "scan from a photo taken on a wooden table" meme. But Irish Girl was way more fun. There was that grueling couple of days of searching through photos of Irish girls trying to find a suitable model for the ad, but we all must make sacrifices for the good of the company.

    Well, whenever you fell you need to sacrifice yourself like that again, I'm available and willing to help. :)

  • (cs) in reply to He who is not to be named (aka zunesis)
    He who is not to be named (aka zunesis):
    frits:
    TRU KVLT metal fan:
    C-Octothorpe:
    hoodaticus:
    You finally found the SockPuppetMaster!
    Or, the Master of Puppets, if you will.

    sorry...

    Entry-level hipster garbage.

    Not when I first started listening to it. Now GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
    Actually, yeah it was. By the time MoP came out, the genre had already evolved past that point.
    OK, I'll bite. Back up your statement with examples of how metal had evolved past Metallica in 1986.
  • (cs) in reply to frits
    frits:
    C-Octothorpe:
    hoodaticus:
    frits:
    QJo:
    frits:
    Sock Puppet #5:
    It still blows my mind that the university vs. not flamewar did not brake out.
    I think it's mainly because 95% of the commenters are university students.

    No, zero percent of me is a university student.

    So by my calculations (bear with me, math is not my strong suit) you're claiming to account for umm... > 95% of comments on this site? So you're the one?

    You finally found the SockPuppetMaster!
    Or, the Master of Puppets, if you will.

    sorry...

    For what? Chopping your breakfast on a mirror?! Dun! Dun dun duuuun!

    You accusing him of deserving the name Coketothorpe or something? Careful, that's close to slander ...

  • (cs) in reply to trtrwtf
    trtrwtf:
    C-Octothorpe:
    hoodaticus:
    frits:
    QJo:
    frits:
    Sock Puppet #5:
    It still blows my mind that the university vs. not flamewar did not brake out.
    I think it's mainly because 95% of the commenters are university students.

    No, zero percent of me is a university student.

    So by my calculations (bear with me, math is not my strong suit) you're claiming to account for umm... > 95% of comments on this site? So you're the one?

    You finally found the SockPuppetMaster!
    Or, the Master of Puppets, if you will.

    sorry...

    You should be.

    Reminds me, I once saw a parody T-shirt mocking a US visit by the Pope. The theme was heavy metal, the slogan was "Pastor of Muppets".

    That's an insult to Kermit and no mistake.

  • (cs) in reply to Jay
    Jay:
    Matt Westwood:
    BOB:
    Years ago I programmed using a 360/44 using punch cards. The antique FORTRAN compiler required all definitions be placed before any computation. You also never commented since comments caused card jams (well that was the legend anyway). Code looked just like the stuff in the example.

    Probably the cause of the WTF. Probably find the programmer was an old Fortran blower who refused to update his paradigms.

    "ALL VARS MUST BE DECLARED AT THE TOP. ALL IN UPPERCASE AND NO VARIABLE NAME LONGER THAN 6 LETTERS. THAT''S HOW IT''S DONE IN FORTRAN. IT''S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME SO IT''S GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU."

    Someone obviously went through afterwards and made the variables lower/camelcase. And added one or two more, with longer names.

    It's the reason why managers are apt to refuse permission for their old boys to be trained in Java.

    That stupid Java programmer screwed it up, though. All integer variables are supposed to start with I, J, K, L, M, or N.

    Hmm ... only if IMPLICIT ALL is declared up top. FORTRAN-77 (and maybe earlier versions, dunno) relaxes that limitation, although many departments insisted on the tradition being maintained. Even now it gives me a warm cosy nostalgic feeling to know by the start letter what sort of variable you're dealing with.

    I also worked in a department where all common variables (that's "globals" to you kiddies) had to begin with C, K or Q: K for integers, C for reals and Q for characters, logicals and double precisions.

  • TRU KVLT metal fan (unregistered) in reply to frits
    frits:
    TRU KVLT metal fan:
    frits:
    TRU KVLT metal fan:
    C-Octothorpe:
    hoodaticus:
    You finally found the SockPuppetMaster!
    Or, the Master of Puppets, if you will.

    sorry...

    Entry-level hipster garbage.

    Not when I first started listening to it. Now GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
    Actually, yeah it was. By the time MoP came out, the genre had already evolved past that point.
    OK, I'll bite. Back up your statement with examples of how metal had evolved past Metallica in 1986.
    The genre had evolved in two major ways: musically and conceptually.

    Musically, Metallica Ride through Justice were writing prog-rock songs based a the typically, clunky verse/preverse/chorus structure with a solo or two in the middle. Albums by Slayer, Celtic Frost/Hellhammer and Bathory (the founders of death/black metal) used more ad-hoc structuring to their compositions or least didn't use them in such predictable ways (standard steady verse, build-up, sing-a-long chorus). The music of these bands was noticeably and admittedly punk-influenced, which resulted in it being superficially simpler while allowing a more abstract perspective on writing music that doesn't have them caught up on getting played on the radio.

    Conceptually, they were still stuck in the mentality of the speed metal era - one of being Righteous. The later development in the genre, death metal, was no longer concerned with righteousness. It didn't see good and bad as Metallica seemed to frame things from a human perspective. Later developments in metal saw war, for instance, from a more neutral perspective, or as something that can't be righteously protested, or even glorified it. You'll see those elements in the music of the aforementioned bands in the early 80's, before MoP.

    In fact, many of the developments I described were already coming about when Metallica got started - even Mayhem was around in the early 80's, so I don't know if they were ever that significant in the evolution of the music. Not trying to be mean, I think they have some good songs. But it's like when people say Pantera "saved metal". They weren't any more developed than metallica and it was years later and the music had gotten even farther by then. Now they're saying the same thing about -core bands (saving metal) that are no more developed than the music from decades ago. If you look through lesser-known bands, you can see what's been done and that we can do better now.

  • Lefty (unregistered) in reply to Sock Puppet #5
    Sock Puppet #5:
    Why would they have a nuclear reactor at a University? Did you read the article?
    Until just before the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta, Georgia Tech had a functioning reactor on campus for the Nuke Eng school
  • Lefty (unregistered) in reply to Herby
    Herby:
    Declare variables?? The implicit naming (integers starting with I, J, K, L, M, N; and reals being the rest)

    God is real, unless declared integer.

  • Spoc42 (unregistered) in reply to BOB
    BOB:
    Years ago I programmed using a 360/44 using punch cards. The antique FORTRAN compiler required all definitions be placed before any computation. You also never commented since comments caused card jams (well that was the legend anyway). Code looked just like the stuff in the example.
    It's still the same in COBOL and NATURAL (both of which I have had to write code in, for my sins).
  • Mark Johansen (unregistered) in reply to the beholder
    the beholder:
    Mark Johansen:
    As the author of that book, I'd just like to thank you all for bringing that ad to everyone's attention again.
    Supposing the book is any good, you're welcome.
    Feel free to buy a copy or two to find out ...
    the beholder:
    Mark Johansen:
    PS on the ad for my database book:

    We thought of using the "scan from a photo taken on a wooden table" meme. But Irish Girl was way more fun. There was that grueling couple of days of searching through photos of Irish girls trying to find a suitable model for the ad, but we all must make sacrifices for the good of the company.

    Well, whenever you fell you need to sacrifice yourself like that again, I'm available and willing to help. :)

    It's so heart-warming to see that there are still people willing to help a guy out when he's faced with a difficult job.

  • Luiz Felipe (unregistered) in reply to GFK
    GFK:
    Sock Puppet #5:
    hoodaticus:
    frits:
    QJo:
    brazzy:
    Ah yes, the "every character is precious" school of variable naming. I once saw a program by someone who combined this with hungarian notation, eliminating all domain meaning from the variable names. The best part was that he was quite proud how much useful information this scheme conveyed...

    The really, really frightening thing here is that the variable names are just meaningful enough to convey the information that this appears to be an application for controlling a nuclear reactor.

    OMG, I think your right.
    In Java! Holy shit! "Core meltdown in progress. Correction procedures suspended for garbage collection run."
    Correct. Java™ is simply not suitable for real-time systems.

    Also, apparently you have to be more wordy to get past askimet.

    Neither are Windows or standard editions of Linux anyway.

    Now i know why Nasa lost contact whit the robot, the garbage collector was running. This must be the causa of wheel wreck also.

  • Imulcha Peach (unregistered) in reply to C-Octothorpe

    These pumps and valves apparently live in flatland.

  • Blapp (unregistered)

    create ALL the variables!

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