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Yeah, IT processes are messed up badly. I was just talking to a friend about the same thing, actually: IT in general is too often considered to be "the problem" rather than "the solution". It doesn't make for a very nice working environment.
I've noticed that a lot of IT people in their mid-thirties to early forties are leaving IT (or considering it), and moving to completely unrelated industries. Is that just in my environment, or does it happen everywhere?
What are your experiences?
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Seriously? So there was a project that had some (not especially interesting) development problems and had to work hard to deliver a buggy product? I'm on the edge of my seat!
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If I had it to do over, I would definitely have gone another career route, but I'm now at the point where I do things my way whether management likes it or not (I can usually back it up, so I tend to get away with it) - because I just don't give a **** any more.
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This is a WTF? I would have called it a BAU.
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Yeah, I think they left the punchline off this one?
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That Irish girl is distracting. Reading, reading, scroll up the page and - BAM!
Anyway, as soon as I saw this:
The general attitude was that it'd get done sooner, but it'd be nice to have some breathing room.
I'm sure we all knew where this was going.
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This type of crap just pisses me off. Seriously.. how do these people do it?! I have a hard enough time getting my foot into the door at half (or less) of regular developer's pay, yet my work is magnitudes greater than this garbage. Damn I wish I could change industries. This one is too dependent on who you know and how well you can con people.
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She's subpar at best. It'd take some drinking and some convincing.
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Happened to me. Left IT 2 years ago at 32 for medical school. Of course, the medical field has its own huge WTF, but school is great. Just didn't like the career paths and options in IT. I still consult for side money, but usually it just makes me very glad I left. Med school is quite a lot of fun - new challenges and interesting stuff every day. And hey, the great looking women around me every day helps too!
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You have never been laid before, have you?
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Huh - some WTF. Seems like the SOP of the IT world. And a designer working on the front end not getting bonus or credit? Wow, what a terrible injustice. :P
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If you have trouble getting work at half the regular developer's pay, then either your work sucks, or your interviewing skills. You need to figure out which one and work at it.
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This is today's real WTF.
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You found this link on Fark didn't you?
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"negotiations"
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I think that's the problem. I tell the truth in interviews. Even if I put aside my morals, I'd end up worrying the whole time that I'd be caught.
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The real WTF:
They pretty much could have had an intern set up a wiki in one day, and been done with it.
There wasn't really any call for a custom application.
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Damnit, I don't get to see the Irish girl. I guess that's the downside of Adblock.
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Obviously. Who can deny the firecracker?
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But has anyone actually bought a t-shirt?
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TWENTYSCEOND
(yay, my captcha is autocompleting now!)
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They are cheaper in a department store.
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damn, too slow
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The way I see it, these under qualified people keep getting the jobs because they don't know what they don't know, i.e. they don't understand how under qualified they are. So, this leads them to believe they are appropriate for the job and it gives them confidence, and the confidence shines through on the interview. They appear adept, and if the screening process isn't thorough, the interviewer will see them as competent workers.
Generally, IMO, smarter people have the blessing/curse of knowing their limits. Just don't let the interviewers think you have any.
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Thanks for the advice. I'll keep it in mind when I'm ready to jump this ship.
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I would come if she came in it.
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I'm mildly amused that the comments are swaying towards Irish Girl instead of the article.
[image] A sweet piece of Irish lass!
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TRWTF is the .gif
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I think it's because, while there definitely was a WTF in the article, it was a pretty weak one and there's nothing really to say about it. I mean, how much can you say about a development project that was over budget and buggy?
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True. Might as well put the comment space to some use.
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Having Premature Ejac.. err.. Submit problems?
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You can also brush your limits aside and say "yeah, i don't have experience doing 'x', but I am sure I could pick it up."
That is how I got my first IT related job. I was in college, it was part time working for the school, and I wasn't the most qualified candidate. I didn't know everything listed on the job posting, but I did my research and told them I didn't have that particular skill set, but that I had already started looking into it. I got the job and did very well. My boss told me when he hired me that I wasn't the most qualified, but he knew that I could pickup whatever skill set I needed and hired me because of the initiative I showed.
It doesn't always work out this way, but I think it is important to be honest. Why would you want the stress of working for a company where all you did was struggle with your deficiencies?
I make some of the hiring decisions at my company. I usually know when a candidate is BSing me on stuff and embarrass them in the interview for doing it. I won't be a jerk about it. I just let them know I caught them in their lie. I try to ask questions that will help me gain insight into how a person thinks. When hiring employees, I look for the following:
There are very few companies in our industry, and few that are as advanced as ours, so we aren't going to find people who know 100% of what we need, or even 50%. In this scenario, I would rather have the honest employee.
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So what was our hero Leon doing this whole time? What's his job, anyway? Is he a programmer or some sort of very, very bad manager who can't outsource a simple task to save his life?
Anyone with a smidgen of web development experience could have done this job in a month. The fact that the protagonist can't do that, and can't even find someone who can do it properly after four attempts, and expects gratitude or credit for whatever role he played in inefficiently getting a pathetic implementation of a simple project to market, late, doesn't win him any sympathy from this quarter. He's so stupid he can't even tell his fourth contractor to use HTML instead of text in GIFs.
Either that or he didn't actually have any role in anything at all, and got thanked for making the tea.
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Right on brotha. Been through the same shit where I'm at.
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HOLLLLA
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Ah well, she has a bit of a pointy chin, a stuck eyebrow and a nose you would really have to see from the side to able to give a true judgement.
But besides that, a real sweet and sensual girly face. A+ material.
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Hmmm..redheads...
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-Harrow.
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The chin is a big pointy, but hey.. everyone has at least one flaw. It's not that big of a deal.
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Is this the same girl? The lighting differences between the three pics is throwing me off if it is.
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Anyone else get pissed off when they clicked the ad and got to the men's shirt page by default?
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Amen! The only shirts we (my wife and I) have bought are ones that simply state "Ireland" and have the Irish flag and a clover on them. The styling is different enough to make them unique from each other. Also, mine's gray and her's is white. We got the shirts because we both have Irish heritage.
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I absolutely love that Irish girl. This WTF put me to sleep.