• crf (unregistered)

    I was wondering if the text from the request really contained the below:

    Invoices not received in this manner will be discounted 2% and extended 60-90 days.

    Note the word "not".

  • TheDev (unregistered) in reply to crf
    crf:
    I was wondering if the text from the request really contained the below:

    Invoices not received in this manner will be discounted 2% and extended 60-90 days.

    Note the word "not".

    Yes Paula, it really did.

  • (cs) in reply to Taz

    What, no two/too/to?

  • h8s EDINE (unregistered) in reply to morry
    morry:
    Oh my God. I still remember EDIFACT. I need alcohol - STAT!

    DELFOR = Devil's work

  • more randomer than you (unregistered) in reply to KenW
    KenW:
    Cpt:
    Of course this will be disputed by the Americans
    Cpt:
    you can't over explain when talking to Americans....

    Oh, boy. Another one of those people who is really jealous of Americans.

    You know, we allow almost everyone into this country; it's part of the reason it's so great. If you have anything to offer, you can apply and we might even let you live here. If you ask nicely, of course.

    Quality of life - objectively:

    http://www.mercer.com/referencecontent.htm?idContent=1307990

    top US city is ranked 28th in the world - mostly behind European countries.

    or the UN ranking of countries..

    http://hdr.undp.org/en/statistics/

    US ranked 12th.

    US might be a great place to earn money, but its a shite place to live. Fact.

  • more randomer than you (unregistered) in reply to savar
    savar:
    Mark:
    seamustheseagull:
    I'm surprised nobody decided to nail the company's executives' testicles to the legal wall for that one.

    Yet another legal "expert" blesses us with his knowledge. What laws exactly does that break? Aside from contractual obligations that is.

    You're kidding right? You just answered your own question.

    Yes - answered it incorrectly. There is nothing to suggest that a) there is a contractual agreement set in place for business occuring after the given time period or b) that specific terms of the contract (i.e. payment amount and time) cannot be changed with reasonable warning.

  • Cpt (unregistered) in reply to KenW
    KenW:
    Cpt:
    Of course this will be disputed by the Americans
    Cpt:
    you can't over explain when talking to Americans....

    Oh, boy. Another one of those people who is really jealous of Americans.

    You know, we allow almost everyone into this country; it's part of the reason it's so great. If you have anything to offer, you can apply and we might even let you live here. If you ask nicely, of course.

    As if... You know go on, live in denial... take a look at quotes from your wonderful citizens and what they have to offer (no asking nicely most of the times): http://notalwaysright.com.

    I rest my case and please, don't assume I am jealous like any one of those other people. I'd rather had rid of most of the contents of your "wonderful" country.

  • Simon (unregistered)

    There is a bit of artistic license going on in that story but is for the most part correct.

    Only real corrections.

    • The food at the event was doughnuts. Imagine the most expensive food you could possibly waste money on and it was in the spread (eg. Caviar for breakfast o_O). If there was a donut it was probably used as stuffing for any rare bird they had roasted.

    • The windows package was just a glorified FTP client. There was an option to include a translation file (which is what they wanted) but you could just feed it in EDIFACT and it would check the structure was correct and just FTP it. That EDIFACT structure they needed was documented and working correctly.

    • Our company was forced to use the software. They were a big customer at the time and basically had a crap program they wanted to sell, so they forced the people they did business to install it or they wouldn't do business anymore. Also there was no 2% discount. They just refused to pay the bills in a timely manner (because it is not automated rollseyes

  • Simon (unregistered) in reply to Enterprise Strength
    Enterprise Strength:
    I bet that enterprisey waffle went on for a good three pages before they finally got to the single paragraph of actual useful information.

    The whole presentation was a sales presentation. There was never anything technical related at all and there was no one (even the engineer they sent in later) who knew anything about the software beyond "make sure file goes there and press button".

  • Simon (unregistered) in reply to Bill Quick
    Bill Quick:
    Not to mention that Simon should have done exactly done that in the first place...

    As I said artistic license. :)

    The system that was actually set up was I had configured a printer for that vendor in the invoicing software on UNIX (as the DB was locked off from directly accessing).

    When it was printed it would take the invoice in text format and then parse it and convert it to EDIFACT. That would be dumped to the PC machine via FTP and the software there was on a timed check to take that file and send it.

    If I was able to directly interface at the Unix level I would of. But the simple fact is the windows software had a login password which we couldn't change/access at all. I suspect it was the same login/password for all vendors.

  • Simon (unregistered) in reply to snoofle
    snoofle:
    Of course, if Simon was the only programmer, none of this is likely to apply. More likely, he just worked with the resources he had available (his *nix box).

    Wasn't my *nix box. It was a big thing locked in a fireproof safe room. Because when a place goes on fire you still want to be able to bill everyone. :)

    There were PC's in the main offices for the receptionists. Took one of those, but overall your correct about what is like in a *nix shop.

  • WTFI Friday (unregistered) in reply to cptz

    Sounds like twitter.

  • (cs) in reply to cptz

    It's called Twitter.

  • /Arthur (unregistered) in reply to MIrko
    MIrko:
    EDIFACT is a living hell. period.

    I Tried to build a reader/writer from scratch, I wasn't even close.

    I was able to find and reuse a previous program, only to find that a lot of codes were not even mentioned in the documentation.

    Fortunately I managed to transfer that corpse to another department.

    I maked a working EDI system in Informix 4gl But then again; it was running on a Unix system. you know a Unix/BSD/Linux system is always running So if you set a deadline... the system is ready.

  • /Arthur (unregistered) in reply to DoubleFelix
    more randomer than you:
    Quality of life - objectively:

    http://www.mercer.com/referencecontent.htm?idContent=1307990

    top US city is ranked 28th in the world - mostly behind European countries.

    or the UN ranking of countries..

    http://hdr.undp.org/en/statistics/

    US ranked 12th.

    US might be a great place to earn money, but its a shite place to live. Fact

    Uithoorn is missing in the list

  • (cs) in reply to Simon
    Simon:
    Our company was forced to use the software. They were a big customer at the time and basically had a crap program they wanted to sell, so they forced the people they did business to install it or they wouldn't do business anymore. Also there was no 2% discount. They just refused to pay the bills in a timely manner (because it is not automated *rollseyes*

    Wouldn't it have been simpler to just pad the bill by an amount equivalent to the lost interest? Unless, of course, cash flow was so tight you couldn't survive the delay.

    At the point where they cut you off, couldn't you have just said "oh, right, well, we decided to switch back to the Windows client" and keep using your own?

  • Cpt (unregistered) in reply to /Arthur
    MIrko:
    EDIFACT is a living hell. period.

    I Tried to build a reader/writer from scratch, I wasn't even close.

    I was able to find and reuse a previous program, only to find that a lot of codes were not even mentioned in the documentation.

    Fortunately I managed to transfer that corpse to another department.

    This says more about your abilities as a programmer than the functionality/usability of EDIFACT. I worked at a company who wrote a reader/writer for EDIFACT, Tradacoms, X12 and a couple of other variations, dialects or even other versions of pre-XML structured transmission protocols. All these were processed eventually by one reader/writer. No headaches, no fuss, no problems.

    BTW that was on an AS/400 (now iSeries... or i5) machine.

  • Cpt (unregistered) in reply to /Arthur

    So is Lutjebroek, so US is even ranked lower than 12 ;)

  • DJMoran (unregistered)

    Just goes to show how stupid some people (and companies) can be.

    We've got a sign up in our school, "Making somthing complicated is childs-play, Making something simple is creativity."

    The whole "Accountants are Dull" cliche is really uncanny here.

  • Joe (unregistered)

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  • Shinobu (unregistered)

    Two important lessons. 1) You're not a rep, you're a programmer. Never talk about company internals to outsiders, it can never do any good and potentially a lot of harm. 2) Klazienaveen is not on the list either. It shouldn't be listed by country number anyway, it is a rather arbitrary division. Should the states be separate entities on the list? What about the Bundesländer? Should the Netherlands and Belgium be one entity? Or should Friesland be separate? Or should the whole European Union be one item? I think the only reasonable way around this is to do something with actual population counts.

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