• Auditor of Reality (unregistered)

    Yay, Tales of the interview at last. My favourite article series!

  • Top Nonce (unregistered)

    Top nonce-ing there Dave... top nonce-ing!

  • getmeaguiness (unregistered)

    If this was the initial comment, would I frist or should I frist?

  • Vitani (cs)

    You've got to be a special kind of idiot to say that in a job interview. An SK-ID10T maybe?

  • D8 (unregistered)

    Curious perversions in Information Technology seems fitting.

  • Anon anon (unregistered)

    CRB check!

  • Matt Westwood (cs)

    Has to be pointed out that if the girl in question is 16, then (as Leighton is not technically in a position of authority over her) any relationship they do have is not actually technically illegal.

    Can't see either parents or teachers quite seeing it that way, though.

    Wonder where this story came from? Could easily be Britain.

    I remember the days before background checks. as a first-year university undergraduate I did some volunteer work in the local "special school" teaching slow learners to read. No checks made there. Not even any such questions at the interview.

    I could go on about some of the stuff that went on between the guys in the 17-18 age group in our school and (at least) one of our female teachers, but this seems to have turned into a family site in the last few months so I won't.

  • QJo (unregistered)

    Recruit for attitude, train for skills.

  • Dogsworth (cs)

    That was a risky move by Dave. He was probably banking on the hope that the Headteacher was a skirt-chasing rascal himself.

    Addendum (2013-10-24 07:25): Speed-reading failure

  • Matt Westwood (cs) in reply to Dogsworth
    Dogsworth:
    That was a risky move by Dave. He was probably banking on the hope that the Headteacher was a skirt-chasing rascal himself.

    "... the Headteacher leaned even further forward.

    "Let's cut to the chase here," she said."

    Du-uh?

  • Anonymous Will (unregistered) in reply to D8
    D8:
    Curious perversions in Information Technology seems fitting.
    Only if you define being attracted to someone only a few years younger than yourself (and able to choose her own sex life) as perverted. Acting on that attraction would be problem if he had some sort of authority over her, but only then.
  • ObiWayneKenobi (cs)

    The correct answer is to give them the answer they want, and then get the girl's phone number to hook up with her later, outside of school grounds.

  • Doug (unregistered)

    TRWTF is arriving 45 minutes early for an interview.

  • nonpartisan (cs) in reply to getmeaguiness
    getmeaguiness:
    If this was the initial comment, would I frist or should I frist?
    Right or wrong, you should frist.
  • michael (unregistered)

    It probably was the president's daughter.

  • Matt Westwood (cs)

    "Subsequently, Leighton learned that Dave had changed his name to Hanzo and emigrated to Germany."

  • Leighton (unregistered)

    I am the Leighton mentioned in the story. I was quite shocked to see the creative licence used when the story was added to the site but hey hum.

    Just a few pointers/answers. This event happened in a High School in the North of England. I had just finished my second year of sixth form education and was starting my college course and apprenticeship. The pupils were no older than 16 years old at any time during my employment there.

  • hsk (unregistered) in reply to Leighton
    Leighton:
    I am the Leighton mentioned in the story. I was quite shocked to see the creative licence used when the story was added to the site but hey hum.

    Just a few pointers/answers. This event happened in a High School in the North of England. I had just finished my second year of sixth form education and was starting my college course and apprenticeship. The pupils were no older than 16 years old at any time during my employment there.

    I always get kind of depressed when I see these inevitable comments from submitters. How much of the story that ended up on the site is actually true?

  • EvilSnack (unregistered)

    Important rules of job interviews:

    A. Repeat to yourself: "It's not in the bag."

    B. To answer the question, "What would you do?" think of the correct answer to "What should I do?" and give that as your response.

    C. Laugh at their jokes, but don't offer your own.

    Dave was obviously failing on the first point here, which led to his failure on the second and third.

  • Leo (unregistered) in reply to Leighton
    Leighton:
    I was quite shocked to see the creative licence used when the story was added to the site but hey hum.

    You must be new here.

    Though, out of curiosity, what is the real story?

  • Leighton (unregistered)

    The story isn't that far from the truth in all honesty.

    Dave did arrive in Jeans and T-Shirt and almost late The Headteacher was Male The interview panel consisted of the Headteacher, the Head of IT, my Boss and a Governer The first part of the interview was the question part. I have no idea about Dave's qualifications I was not just relying on my qualifications as I had around 5 years of PC knowledge by then. The second part of the interview was the technical part and this is where I knew I had got the job as Dave was unable to identify the difference between the CPU and Memory (I KID YOU NOT!!!) I was offered the job on the spot.

  • slipstream (unregistered) in reply to Leighton

    "unable to identify the difference between the CPU and memory"

    ...in my opinion, the article would have been even funnier had it been mentioned there :)

  • Dogsworth (cs) in reply to Leighton
    Leighton:
    The Headteacher was Male
    See, who needs reading comprehension when you have instinct?
  • pun-in-ten-did (unregistered) in reply to D8

    your nickname is d8 - i see what you did there... even the captcha confirms it: opto!

  • hsk (unregistered)

    So wait, did Dave actually give that sex-pesty line in the real story or not?

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to Matt Westwood
    Matt Westwood:
    Has to be pointed out that if the girl in question is 16, then (as Leighton is not *technically* in a position of authority over her) any relationship they do have is not actually technically illegal.

    Yeah, by all means, go ahead and try and argue that point in an interview and see how far you get. Good luck little buddy.

  • Leighton (unregistered) in reply to hsk

    Yes he did. I only found out after I accepted the job

  • lolwtf (cs)

    What a silly question. As if any 16yo girl is ever going to hit on the guy fixing the computers.

  • ZoomST (unregistered) in reply to lolwtf
    lolwtf:
    What a silly question. As if any 16yo girl is ever going to hit on the guy fixing the computers.
    Yes, it happens all of the time in some of the pr0n videos I have -- but girls doesn't seem to be 16yo, they are surely older but with high school uniforms. ;)
  • OlPeculier (unregistered)

    I actually had this happen to me, I was in a nightclub and one of the girls that I taught (even though I, on paper at least, was just a technician) came on to me. She would have been 15. I ran like hell...

  • Matt Westwood (cs) in reply to lolwtf
    lolwtf:
    What a silly question. As if any 16yo girl is ever going to hit on the guy fixing the computers.

    You'd be surprised. Obviously you've never been around girls.

  • Krunt (unregistered) in reply to EvilSnack
    EvilSnack:
    B. To answer the question, "What would you do?" think of the correct answer to "What would they prefer I do?" and give that as your response.

    FTFY.

  • Valued Service (unregistered) in reply to Leighton
    Leighton:
    The story isn't that far from the truth in all honesty.

    Dave did arrive in Jeans and T-Shirt and almost late The Headteacher was Male The interview panel consisted of the Headteacher, the Head of IT, my Boss and a Governer The first part of the interview was the question part. I have no idea about Dave's qualifications I was not just relying on my qualifications as I had around 5 years of PC knowledge by then. The second part of the interview was the technical part and this is where I knew I had got the job as Dave was unable to identify the difference between the CPU and Memory (I KID YOU NOT!!!) I was offered the job on the spot.

    To the editor:

    Please don't change facts.

    I don't care if it adds to the tension saying that the competitor was more competent, that's not what happened.

  • Matt Westwood (cs) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    Matt Westwood:
    Has to be pointed out that if the girl in question is 16, then (as Leighton is not *technically* in a position of authority over her) any relationship they do have is not actually technically illegal.

    Yeah, by all means, go ahead and try and argue that point in an interview and see how far you get. Good luck little buddy.

    Oh get real! Course you don't do this at an interview! Credit me with at least half a brain!

    Point is that once you've nailed the job, you can nail the (over 16yo) students. But only after you;ve nailed the job.

  • cdosrun (cs) in reply to Anonymous Will
    Anonymous Will:
    Only if you define being attracted to someone only a few years younger than yourself (and able to choose her own sex life) as perverted. Acting on that attraction would be problem if he had some sort of authority over her, but only then.

    As I read the story, neither the age of the girl nor the legal jurisdiction is mentioned.

    I don't see how you conclude that the girl is 16, or that 16 is above the age of consent where this took place.

    Or is this a troll where you intentionally act creepy?

  • dsckeld (cs) in reply to Valued Service
    Valued Service:
    To the editor:

    Please don't change facts.

    I don't care if it adds to the tension saying that the competitor was more competent, that's not what happened.

    I don't think the editor changed the fact. The story tells that Dave were confident and oozed confidence. What we learn when Leighton is getting quizzed at technicalities, which Dave had told were tough ones, we, or at least I, connected dots and ended up with Dave being an incompetent jerk. The rest is just icing on that cake.

    Edit: Regarding a 16 year old being technically legal prey for a computer tech: No such thing. Neither you or the girl will have to ponder whether this is OK or not. AFAIK, even a fling between a student and the Schools janitors apprentice is off limits.

  • DonaldK (unregistered) in reply to slipstream
    slipstream:
    "unable to identify the difference between the CPU and memory"

    The CPU is the big cream box where you plug the power and the monitor and the keyboard into, and the memory is the spinning part that stores the files. Easy. Any more questions??

  • Matt Westwood (cs) in reply to cdosrun
    cdosrun:
    Anonymous Will:
    Only if you define being attracted to someone only a few years younger than yourself (and able to choose her own sex life) as perverted. Acting on that attraction would be problem if he had some sort of authority over her, but only then.

    As I read the story, neither the age of the girl nor the legal jurisdiction is mentioned.

    I don't see how you conclude that the girl is 16, or that 16 is above the age of consent where this took place.

    Or is this a troll where you intentionally act creepy?

    Your reading comprehension skills are rubbish, pal. There was no specific age of anyone mentioned in the story. The fact that it is legal to have a sexual relationship with a 16yo girl was raised as a legal technicality during the course of the comment threads.

    It's been suggested that: a) If you work at a school in any capacity then a relationship between a 16yo (or older) and yourself is illegal. b) On the other hand, if you're not in a position of authority then nobody has any legal cause for complaint. c) Its been stated that this happened in the North of England, where the age of consent is indeed 16. The story has a feel of "British-ness" about it, which is where the assumption arises. d) TRWTF is so-called "civilized" Western nations whose age of consent is higher than 16 (are there any?)

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  • Anomaly (unregistered)

    Its a conflict of interest for students and any staff member to be seeing each other. Furthermore Janitors are some of the most powerful people in the school. Not in the political runnings mind you. Who else is trusted with access to every single room in the whole building above all others? The guy with the key to every single room. There is power in privileged access.

    The appropriate way to go about it is wait until the student graduates then take that agonizing tension filled romance to the next level... Like my friends parents. His dad was a band director. His mom was a band member. They were friendly while she was still in school and as soon as she graduated she was no longer off limits.

    Its a shame how much of the story was changed, but at least this wasn't another hanzo story.

    Captcha: Plaga - Same captcha two posts in a row? How often does that happen.

  • ObiWayneKenobi (cs) in reply to Matt Westwood
    Matt Westwood:
    Your reading comprehension skills are rubbish, pal. There was no specific age of *anyone* mentioned in the story. The fact that it is legal to have a sexual relationship with a 16yo girl was raised as a legal technicality during the course of the comment threads.

    It's been suggested that: a) If you work at a school in any capacity then a relationship between a 16yo (or older) and yourself is illegal. b) On the other hand, if you're not in a position of authority then nobody has any legal cause for complaint. c) Its been stated that this happened in the North of England, where the age of consent is indeed 16. The story has a feel of "British-ness" about it, which is where the assumption arises. d) TRWTF is so-called "civilized" Western nations whose age of consent is higher than 16 (are there any?)

    'MURICA of course. In most places it's 18, except in some cases where it's like 16 if one party isn't over 24.

    As a general rule though even if not illegal, it's likely to get you fired, although not arrested for "statutory rape" (the real WTF).

  • Elly Larrison (unregistered)

    Curious perversions indeed...

  • cdosrun (cs) in reply to Matt Westwood
    Matt Westwood:
    It's been suggested that: a) If you work at a school in *any* capacity then a relationship between a 16yo (or older) and yourself is illegal. b) On the other hand, if you're not in a position of authority then nobody has any legal cause for complaint. c) Its been stated that this happened in the North of England, where the age of consent is indeed 16. The story has a feel of "British-ness" about it, which is where the assumption arises. d) TRWTF is so-called "civilized" Western nations whose age of consent is higher than 16 (are there any?)
    Matt Westwood:
    Has to be pointed out that if the girl in question is 16, then (as Leighton is not *technically* in a position of authority over her) any relationship they do have is not actually technically illegal.

    Can't see either parents or teachers quite seeing it that way, though.

    Wonder where this story came from? Could easily be Britain.

    Gotcha, troll acting creepy.

  • emaN ruoY (unregistered)

    As a person being interviewed, don't get too comfortable with the interviewer(s). Even if things get into a relaxed state, always be on guard, (especially if there are more than one interviewer in the room). Showing up in jeans would usually mean a quick exit from the interview, even if the working atmosphere was a very relaxed environment.

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to Matt Westwood
    Matt Westwood:
    Anon:
    Matt Westwood:
    Has to be pointed out that if the girl in question is 16, then (as Leighton is not *technically* in a position of authority over her) any relationship they do have is not actually technically illegal.

    Yeah, by all means, go ahead and try and argue that point in an interview and see how far you get. Good luck little buddy.

    Oh get real! Course you don't do this at an interview! Credit me with at least half a brain!

    Point is that once you've nailed the job, you can nail the (over 16yo) students. But only after you;ve nailed the job.

    I credit you with nothing of the sort if you actually think it would be appropriate to nail a student at the school you are working at. It doesn't have to be illegal. It's still inappropriate and clear grounds for dismissal.

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to emaN ruoY
    emaN ruoY:
    As a person being interviewed, don't get too comfortable with the interviewer(s). Even if things get into a relaxed state, always be on guard, (especially if there are more than one interviewer in the room). Showing up in jeans would usually mean a quick exit from the interview, even if the working atmosphere was a very relaxed environment.

    Somewhat O/T, but am I the only one who would rather be interviewed than be the interviewer.

    Interviews are easy, you just talk about yourself. Interviewing is hard, you have to pretend to give a shit about the person you are interviewing.

  • Gare.Chicago (unregistered)

    "But Leighton landed the job with ease. Because he was a ninjitsu."

  • Anonymous Will (unregistered) in reply to cdosrun
    cdosrun:
    Gotcha, troll acting creepy.
    So being attracted to a physically adult person is creepy? Get real. And don't forget being attracted to someone means hitting on them at every opportunity.
  • Webhamster (unregistered) in reply to Anomaly
    Anomaly:
    The appropriate way to go about it is wait until the student graduates then take that agonizing tension filled romance to the next level... Like my friends parents. His dad was a band director. His mom was a band member. They were friendly while she was still in school and as soon as she graduated she was no longer off limits.

    While technically there's nothing wrong with that it can get complicated. A friend of mine started teaching at a high school in his early 20's, got along well with one particular student and tongues started wagging around the school. Nothing ever actually happened. The summer after she graduated they ran into each other at an event and soon after started dating. The perception among others was that something had to have been going on because they started dating so soon after she graduated. He had to transfer to another school because the rumours were destroying his credibility where he was teaching (with both staff and students). He never did anything wrong, but the perception of others almost destroyed his career.

  • David (unregistered) in reply to Valued Service

    To the OP - if you want the stories written to your spec then you start your own site and gather submissions and post boring stories for people to read. This site takes dramatic license to make the stories more engaging and doesn't purport to be a documentary.

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