• (disco) in reply to Onyx
    Onyx:
    Slavic languages
    See, this is why my OS is TRWTF, no support for non-latin anything! :cry: Although I did have a good matrix for chinese pinyin once, it's probably outdated by now...
  • (disco) in reply to Tsaukpaetra
    Tsaukpaetra:
    though I usually don't pronounce "Yankee" like "yawn-??"?

    And you shouldn't - "yawn" definitely has an ɔː (ooh) in any pronunciation guide I know of. Frankly I'm not sure if that's jɑː or something like jæ at the beginning, but certainly not jɔː.

  • (disco) in reply to Maciejasjmj

    Yeah, I think this conversation is way out of my ability to comprehend now...

    [image]

    I'll come back when I invent the proper language packs and install them...


    Filed under: Backlogged, Workitem ID 3,197,771. Status: Investigate

  • (disco) in reply to jas88
    jas88:
    Back in the Army, in WWII, my grandfather was told that since there was already a Lawrence in the unit, he needed another name. "Have you got a middle name?" asked the CO. He did: Edward - which they shortened to Ted.

    My grandfather went by Dick. He thought that was his name, until he enlisted in the Navy before we entered WWII, at which point he learned that his name was actually Wayne. He had been named after an uncle, who fell out of favor with his mother shortly after he was born, so she called him Dick.

    The only people who called him Wayne were people who didn't know him, and us, when we called to troll him about the Dodgers (he hated them).

  • (disco) in reply to Tsaukpaetra

    God-belgium Google and their AHD pronunciation symbols. IPA for life!

    But anyway, it's ya-as-in-yarn, not ya-as-in-yawn.

  • (disco) in reply to Maciejasjmj
    Maciejasjmj:
    it's ya-as-in-yarn, not ya-as-in-yawn.
    I officially admit it, I'm broken. I pronounce both yarn and yawn the same with exception to yarn having an "er" sound (ya in both cases is phonetically identical to me)...
  • (disco) in reply to Tsaukpaetra

    Yarn:

    http://dictionary.cambridge.org/media/english/us_pron/y/yar/yarn_/yarn.mp3

    Yawn:

    http://dictionary.cambridge.org/media/english/us_pron/e/eus/eus75/eus75052.mp3

    The first has an "aah" (ɑː) sound, the other has an "ooh" (ɔː) sound.

  • (disco) in reply to Maciejasjmj
    Maciejasjmj:
    The first has an "aah" (ɑː) sound, the other has an "ooh" (ɔː) sound.
    I see. My virtual mouth has never had this much exercise and attention before!
  • (disco) in reply to Tsaukpaetra
    Tsaukpaetra:
    My virtual mouth has never had this much exercise and attention before!

    :giggity:

  • (disco) in reply to Maciejasjmj

    Oh crap, looks like even :giggity: Engine has segfaulted here.


    Filed under: Folks, I might just need a cold reboot, there's a lot of silent failing going on here...

  • (disco) in reply to Tsaukpaetra
    Tsaukpaetra:
    I officially admit it, I'm broken.

    If this helps, you're looking more for a sort of "Yare" sound, rhyming with "tare" or maybe "tear" (not the liquid that falls from your eye, but something you do with a piece of paper.)

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    a sort of "Yare" sound
    Not sure if that helps, I don't think I'd ever pronounce "yarn" like "yay-ern"... :eyes:
  • (disco) in reply to Tsaukpaetra
    Tsaukpaetra:
    Not sure if that helps, I don't think I'd ever pronounce "yarn" like "yay-ern"

    Well, no. But I mentally pronounced that name like the first syllable was Yare, until I went back and listened to the recording again and I guess pronouncing it more like Yarn (or Yar, like pirates say) is closer.

  • (disco) in reply to Onyx

    Continuing the discussion from Single-User Mode:

    Onyx:
    On topic: why in the hell would it take several seconds to enable a field? :wtf: is it doing?

    We have an expenses form at work like that. You click into the box to give it focus, then enter something in the field, When you click into the next box (tab don't work), it notices that this field has lost focus, and there's a noticeable hiatus of a couple of seconds while it goes to the database to verify that what you have entered is a valid cost code / expenses allocation. Till that has happened, you can't do anything else, and in fact you then have to click into the next field again so as to get focus on the new field. Fortunately we don't usually have a great deal of expenses fields to enter (I've never had more than about 10 after a particularly interesting foreign trip) and it's only an occasional thing. But it's amusingly annoying.

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat

    What I want to know is, why do Americans pronounce "and" like "ee-yand"? Does this mean they pronounce "or" like "eeyore"?

  • (disco) in reply to Matt_Westwood

    Well, yes, I can understand that, but the way it was described in the article I got the impression every field did that, including the first one while the form is still empty.

    Also, they way the page was described I assumed that AJAX was just a fool's dream at the time it was made.

    Maybe I'm just extrapolating too much...

  • (disco) in reply to Matt_Westwood
    Matt_Westwood:
    amusingly annoying

    WHICH IS IT? How can something be amusing and annoying at the same time? [image]

  • (disco) in reply to Matt_Westwood
    Matt_Westwood:
    What I want to know is, why do Americans pronounce "and" like "ee-yand"? Does this mean they pronounce "or" like "eeyore"?

    I'm not sure I've heard an American do this. Perhaps I need to travel outside the States for this feature...

  • (disco) in reply to Matt_Westwood
    Matt_Westwood:
    What I want to know is, why do Americans pronounce "and" like "ee-yand"?

    Ee-yand?

    ... what America are you talking about? Like... Brazil maybe? Because nobody in North America does that.

  • (disco) in reply to Matt_Westwood
    Matt_Westwood:
    What I want to know is, why do Americans pronounce "and" like "ee-yand"? Does this mean they pronounce "or" like "eeyore"?

    What I want to know is, why do British add "R" to the end of idea.

    I actually googled that and it seems my ESL hearing is not misleading me oh my idear.

  • (disco)
    Matt_Westwood:
    What I want to know is, why do Americans pronounce "and" like "ee-yand"?

    Regional differences? I've never heard anyone say it that way. I have heard people put emphasis on the word so it comes out kinda like aa-yand but that's not the usual way it's said.

  • (disco) in reply to Maciejasjmj
    Maciejasjmj:
    something like jæ at the beginning

    In my regional dialect, "Yankee" is definitely /jæ.../

  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla
    boomzilla:
    troll him about the Dodgers (he hated them).

    :+1: (to you, not him)

  • (disco) in reply to jas88
    jas88:
    my name's James...

    (I never liked it being "shortened" to Jamie - which is the same length anyway

    Get your ears checked. James is one syllable, Jamie is two.

  • (disco) in reply to LB_

    Maybe he pronounces it "jay-mess"?

  • (disco) in reply to Tsaukpaetra
    Tsaukpaetra:
    WHICH IS IT? How can something be amusing and annoying at the same time?

    I don't see what's so contradictory. Many popular perfumes include a markedly offensive "note" that draws your attention and makes them unique -- some say better.

    Most :wtf:s are both annoying and amusing, once understood:

    • "We lost 12 hours because the lead architect misapplied a pattern."
    • "It turns out, we were spending 8 hours every week in the system we had to use to account for our time."
  • (disco) in reply to Crunger
    Crunger:
    once understood
    Sorry, much of my system has been [crashed](https://what.thedailywtf.com/t/single-user-mode/52504/63?u=tsaukpaetra) from a [language bug,](https://what.thedailywtf.com/t/single-user-mode/52504/56?u=tsaukpaetra) and I haven't been able to reboot yet. :sweat_smile:

    Filed under: At least forum access is still working, that's good, right?!

  • (disco)

    I'm with @RFoxmich and @DJSpudplucker; I was expecting the ending either to be "script is responsible for data corruption that takes twice as long to fix as just entering the data manually would have done" (possibly not on the original load, but some months later when being used for a different data set), or "existence of script is inadvertently revealed to management with unpleasant consequences" (whether legal or organisational, such as the input data not being trusted so it all has to be redone by hand).

    Instead we get a happy ending. I'm pretty sure this is just an effort to imbue us with false hope so that its inevitable crushing will be even more amusing.

  • (disco) in reply to Scarlet_Manuka
    Scarlet_Manuka:
    I'm with @RFoxmich and @DJSpudplucker; I was expecting the ending either to be "script is responsible for data corruption that takes twice as long to fix

    Wouldn't that make it a Confession, rather than a Featured Article?

    or "existence of script is inadvertently revealed to management with unpleasant consequences

    So, our expectations were subverted, which is the raw material for a good story.

    Trouble is, we just have a story of "government uses stupid inefficient software that nobody is motivated to change". Governments, managers, and co-ops are expected to create monstrosities -- the :wtf: comes when they actually outperform people who should know better.

  • (disco)

    I expected the "first comment" to be a multi-word sentence, submitted one word per comment. I am disappoint, TDWTF.

  • (disco)

    Due to (insert password-looking string of legal reference) and OWASP best practice, we have introduced CSRF protection on all entry forms. Also, your data entry tasks have collided with after-hours maintenance work. Security says nobody was at your desk at that point, so clearly, the data entry system that you and only you use has been compromised. For security reasons, data of the past three days, when the pattern started, have been disentried. What do you have to say for yourself, citizen?

  • (disco) in reply to dse
    dse:
    What I want to know is, why do British add "R" to the end of idea.

    Probably just too distracted by all the drawring they do to pay attention to the things they are saying.


    Filed under: Seriously, that one makes even less sense

  • (disco) in reply to Onyx
    Onyx:
    all the drawring they do
    Hwat do they do?
  • (disco) in reply to Matt_Westwood
    Matt_Westwood:
    What I want to know is, why do Americans pronounce "and" like "ee-yand"?

    Probably the same reason that Americans pronounce "Aaron" and "Erin" the same.

    (This was even sort-of lampshaded on a recent episode of a popular zombie-based TV show)

  • (disco) in reply to Matt_Westwood
    Matt_Westwood:
    What I want to know is, why do Americans pronounce "and" like "ee-yand"? Does this mean they pronounce "or" like "eeyore"?

    Not all Americans (obviously) but I hear that a lot in the south. Stereotypical southerners don't pronounce "a" very often, and they replace lots of vowels with schwa ("uh" or "ah"). So "and" becomes "ee-yuhnd", and "hey" becomes "huh-ee".

    "or" is different. The only vowel+"r" sound they can make is "ur". They make the other vowel+"r" sounds by adding "w" or "y". So "or" becomes "o-wur", "hair" becomes "hah-yur", "here" becomes "hee-yur".

    They also can't pronounce the letter "i" at all. "I" becomes "ah", "him" becomes "hee-yum".

    I work with several engineers who talk like this, really gets on my nerves after a while. Hard to take people seriously in a professional setting when they sound like morons.

  • (disco) in reply to NedFodder

    None of it sounds as silly as "aboot."

  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla
    boomzilla:
    aboot

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-xG3D8OMQk

  • (disco) in reply to PJH
  • (disco) in reply to dse
    dse:
    What I want to know is, why do British add "R" to the end of idea.

    Which accent are we talking about here?

  • (disco) in reply to dse
    dse:
    What I want to know is, why do British add "R" to the end of idea.

    I don't know, but it makes up for Boston natives leaving the "R" off the end of beer and other words.

  • (disco) in reply to brotherelf
    brotherelf:
    disentried

    Ew. That is one of the worst neologisms I've ever had the misfortune of reading.

  • (disco) in reply to Zemm
    Zemm:
    Probably the same reason that Americans pronounce "Aaron" and "Erin" the same.

    Not really. Well, some regional accent probably does, but they're supposed to be pronounced differently, like Frances and Francis.

  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla
    boomzilla:

    Does that give you cancer yet?

  • (disco) in reply to brotherelf

    They are stupid enough to even detect this. Also, at many government and semi-government agencies security standards are either pretty loose or aimed at exactly the wrong targets, as staff is vastly underpaid and underqualified.

    In this particular case, the bosses actually expected data-entry staff to work unpaid overtime, including late-night rounds from home.

  • (disco) in reply to DJSpudplucker
    DJSpudplucker:
    Exactly. I keep waiting for the part where Jarosław is hauled off and arrested for unauthorized use of a government computer.
    Per story, he was in the IT department there ;)
  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla

    Juice is already quite dead. It's basically fruit blood.

  • (disco) in reply to Fox

    You should go to his prison cell and let him know. I'm sure he'll be gratified that his job is done.

  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla

    I'd be more likely to bring him spoiled juice filled with all sorts of fun and exciting microbial colonies and tell him that the juice came back to life after being left alone for 3 days.

  • (disco) in reply to Maciejasjmj
    Maciejasjmj:
    Also, "Jarosław"? It's "Jarek". That's like insisting on calling a Nate "Nathaniel".
    I wouldn't dare you to call Jarosław "Jarek"...

    http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/30560/wp_jaroslaw_kaczynski_zblizenie_lukasz_szelemej600.jpeg

  • (disco) in reply to brotherelf
    brotherelf:
    we have introduced CSRF protection on all entry forms

    Dude. It's a government. It's Polish. They wouldn't get around to it until both of the story's heroes retire.

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