• (disco) in reply to PJH

    What are your thoughts on the Big Toe?

  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla
    boomzilla:
    What are your thoughts on the Big Toe?

    Since

    • unlike the thumb, it's not opposable, so doesn't fall into a different category to its neighbours and
    • the clue is in the name

    I don't think it's a special case.

  • (disco) in reply to PJH
    PJH:
    thumb and finger should both be derived from digit - your test-case is wrong.

    Hmm let me look further in the module

    class Finger(Digit):
      pass

    Having written that... We might have a definition clash. But currently that doesn't provide any problems in the implementation

  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla
    boomzilla:
    What are your thoughts on the Big Toe?

    That one actually has it's own name Hallux or someting

  • (disco) in reply to PJH
    PJH:
    I don't think it's a special case.

    LIES. It has a different number of bones in it.

  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla
    boomzilla:
    LIES. It has a different number of bones in it.

    In which respect it corresponds to the thumb. But it definitely is a toe, is it not? So why is a thumb not a finger?

    digitsfingersthumbstoesbig toes

    Edit: ooh, you can nest the <kbd> tag which, provided you don't want any sets to overlap without being totally nested, makes a much nicer Venn diagram effect than various kinds of brackets.

  • (disco) in reply to CarrieVS
    CarrieVS:
    So why is a thumb not a finger?

    Because @PJH uses the wrong classifier. Probably eats his eggs from the wrong end, too.

  • (disco) in reply to Shoreline

    Maybe the Al experience was a deliberate ploy to allow the students to gain experience in a real world situation.

    Maybe every team of students was given a rogue agent: someone not technically a student, but deliberately planted into each team, briefed specifically to inject some of that real-world WTFery that every team is saddled with. In the case of Al, his role is "incompetent bullshit merchant".

  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla
    boomzilla:
    eats his eggs from the wrong end, too.

    Which end is correct? They both look the same to me:

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nINLuZcSEzE/UAbK_A991hI/AAAAAAAABro/V47PzDInhjc/s1600/H_EggCheeseBiscuit.png

  • (disco) in reply to Yamikuronue

    *looks at image URL* *wonders why it's called a 'biscuit'* *remembers where Yami lives* *is now wondering why Americans love to use the wrong name for so many things…*

  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla
    boomzilla:
    Because @PJH uses the wrong classifier.

    Real life doesn't do single inheritance. [spoiler]Except with a few things like aphids.[/spoiler]

  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK
    RaceProUK:
    *is now wondering why Americans love to use the wrong name for so many things…*

    :disappointed:

  • (disco) in reply to dkf
    dkf:
    Real life doesn't do single inheritance
    Apart from, among others, every species of bacteria :stuck_out_tongue:
  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK
    RaceProUK:
    *is now wondering why Americans love to use the wrong name for so many things…*

    They got sick of misspelling the things they did get the right names for.

    :trolleybus:

  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK
    RaceProUK:
    *is now wondering why Americans love to use the wrong name for so many things…*

    Let me restate what I told @Onyx in another thread:

    You can't compare the American dialects (yes there are multiple) to other English dialects and expect everything to be the same. That would be like expecting C# and C++ to be completely the same because they both derive from C.

  • (disco) in reply to Adynathos
    Adynathos:
    How do you imagine a group project without source control?

    Passing around a usb stick.

    In that project, we also tried finding a diff tool for Windows, and the first one we found spammed like 30 icons into the start menu, and not a single executable.

  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK

    :rimshot:

    RaceProUK:
    wonders why it's called a 'biscuit'

    Fine, I'll play the fool....

    What is it that you all call a biscuit?

    Please don't let it be potty humour....

    EDIT: Was: What do you call a biscuit? /EDIT

    Which I didn't want followed up by: "I don't know what do you call a biscuit?" :rimshot:

  • (disco) in reply to ijij
    ijij:
    What is it that you all call a biscuit?

    A cookie.

    They don't have a good term for American biscuits at all.

  • (disco)

    The VB6 comment made me throw up in my mouth a little... :confounded:

    Mostly because of repressed memories of a similar VB app (full table select into arrays, etc) from a prior job, which I was tasked with maintaining after the previous developer left. Maybe one day with lots of therapy, that may become another TDWTF submission...

  • (disco) in reply to ijij
    ijij:
    What is it that you all call a biscuit?
    Example of a biscuit: [image] The name derives from French, and essentially means 'twice cooked'.

    A cookie: [image] This at least US English gets right :smile:

    And a scone: [image] Which, for some reason, US English calls a 'biscuit', even though it's only baked once :confused: They also have them with gravy, which is just weird.

  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla
    boomzilla:
    Probably eats his eggs from the wrong end, too.

    I sat down with my mother, sister, and grandmother for a game of Monopoly once. Midway through the game I noticed both my grandmother and I sorted our cash with the largest bills on the left and smallest bills on the right, while my mother and sister did the exact opposite. I joked that my grandma and I were Big Endian while my sister and mother were Little Endian.

    Out of this particular group, my grandma (who is now 90 years old) was the ONLY non-programmer, yet she was the only one who understood the joke, and I was forced to look up the history behind little/big endian to find out what the non-computing origin of the terms were.

    Filed Under: Slightly amusing but generally pointless off-topic anecdote, need to learn how you guys make fake tags look like tags, .duolc gat eht ni ytilibadaer rof gat sdrowkcaB, I did it!

  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK
    RaceProUK:
    And a scone:

    Round British scones can resemble North American biscuits in appearance, but scones traditionally rely on cold butter, while biscuits are more often made with other kinds of animal fat or vegetable shortening. Also, while scones are frequently (but not always) sweet, and served with coffee and tea, biscuits are served more as a bread, often with breakfast in the South.[1]

    So, while there is a superficial resemblance, there is a difference in ingredients and taste. American biscuits are not sweet like scones, and are generally made using a different fat than is used with scones.

    Any further argument on this, and I may need to get my wife involved. She has a degree in food. Literally. Her degree is in Food Science.

  • (disco) in reply to mott555
    mott555:
    my grandma (who is now 90 years old) was the ONLY non-programmer, yet she was the only one who understood the joke

    :headdesk:

  • (disco) in reply to mott555
    mott555:
    Out of this particular group, my grandma (who is now 90 years old) was the ONLY non-programmer, yet she was the only one who understood the joke, and I was forced to look up the history behind little/big endian to find out what the non-computing origin of the terms were.

    If you then go ahead and read Gulliver's Travels, you'll also find out the non-computing origin of the term "yahoo" at no extra cost.

    Filed under: ironic when you think about it, but it explains a lot

  • (disco) in reply to mott555
    mott555:
    need to learn how you guys make fake tags look like tags

    Filed under: View raw

  • (disco)

    Well I gotta go... but on the way out I will don my fedora and plan on buying some biscuits and gravy....

    Happy weekend all.

  • (disco) in reply to mott555
    mott555:
    need to learn how you guys make fake tags look like tags,

    Not sure if serious. Have you really been here all this time without knowing this???

    In any case for the benefit of newcomers and old-timers alike who may not know this: They are just ordinary links, using HTML, BBcode or Markdown syntax, usually with either empty href, or pointing to a non-existent "#tag" anchor. Sometimes the href points to a silly non-existent (since Discourse strips out any real anchor you might attempt to create) anchor "#somethingRelatedToTheFiledUnderJoke", to zombo.com, or rarely to a real page related to the filed under joke.

  • (disco) in reply to HardwareGeek
    HardwareGeek:
    Not sure if serious. Have you really been here all this time without knowing this???

    I used to do something like that but forgot what. I assumed you guys were doing CSS style shenanigans.

  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK
    RaceProUK:
    They also have them with gravy, which is just weirdone of the best things ever.

    FTFY

  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla

    It can be both… :stuck_out_tongue:

  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK
    RaceProUK:
    They also have them with gravy, which is just weird.

    Says someone from a country where beans on toast is considered "normal".

  • (disco) in reply to abarker
    abarker:
    beans on toast

    :confused:

  • (disco) in reply to abarker
    abarker:
    beans on toast is considered "normal"

    :wtf:

  • (disco) in reply to antiquarian

    Beans on toast is such a weird idea I forgot :wtf: was even an emoji here.

  • (disco) in reply to antiquarian

    Beans on toast is such a weird idea I forgot :wtf: was even an emoji here.

    500 Error 500 Error 500 Error 500 Error 500 Error This is annoying!!! 500 Error 500 Error If this doesn't post soon I'm giving up 500 Eror

  • (disco) in reply to mott555

    Thank you Discourse for making me suffer throuhg a ton of 500 errors when the first one actually wasn't even an error!!!!!!

  • (disco) in reply to mott555
    mott555:
    Beans on toast

    Can be anywhere from really nice to very meh. It depends on whether you've got good bread and good beans. (IME, “good beans” usually means “made by Heinz”.)

  • (disco) in reply to dkf

    Exactly.

    What you really want is thick slices of a nice fresh loaf (brown or white, doesn't matter), and a tin of Heinz beans. So long as the toast doesn't come out black, it'll be fine :smile:

  • (disco) in reply to tharpa

    The sad thing is, I recently worked on a commercial project using an ORM layer and iterating through datasets to find matches ... meaning they had indeed done precisely what Al was doing.

    The original was subcontracted, and of course worked fine ... for the test cases of 20 items. Once the live dataset broke the gigabyte mark? Not so much.

  • (disco) in reply to jas88
    jas88:
    The sad thing is, I recently worked on a commercial project using an ORM layer and iterating through datasets to find matches ... meaning they had indeed done precisely what Al was doing.

    ORMs: They tend to seem neat until you know what SQL can do, then they feel sucky and restricted. INB4SqlAlchemy

  • (disco) in reply to dkf
    dkf:
    INB4SqlAlchemy

    Why aren't all ORMs written in the same way as SQLAlchemy?

  • (disco) in reply to tarunik
    tarunik:
    Why aren't all ORMs written in the same way as SQLAlchemy?

    They were originally, but that universe fractured because the ORMs are too perfect and flawless, and shattered into the universe we have now. With only rare glimpses of perfection.

  • (disco) in reply to Yazeran
    Shoreline:
    Are you saying that the system of group-projects is fundamentally broken and open to being unfair?
    Yazeran:
    Yes. That's exactly what he is saying.

    You're probably just saying that because you got a bad mark.

    Kidding! Unfortunately this seems to be the view of those who design these systems.

    That and the classic 'you already knew this was the system we would be using' as though it was our responsibility to predict that it would turn out so badly, having not designed the system ourselves.

    I'm pretty sure there are fallacies in both those cases, but I'm not sure exactly what fallacies. They're probably a combo attack of fallacies.

  • (disco) in reply to Shoreline
    Shoreline:
    I'm pretty sure there are fallacies in both those cases, but I'm not sure exactly what fallacies.

    Having designed courses that worked this way, the usual way is to have a two-part deliverable: code and report. The students are told that the report is mandatory, and that a mandatory section of the report is a description of who did what. It seems to have worked, at least for me. :smile:

    Having a pure-code deliverable seems crazy, and far too easy to cheat at.

  • (disco) in reply to dkf
    dkf:
    Having designed courses that worked this way, the usual way is to have a two-part deliverable: code and report. The students are told that the report is mandatory, and that a mandatory section of the report is a description of who did what. It seems to have worked, at least for me

    My main problem with that is that it's very easy for not-so-awesome professors to wind up harping on the report deliverables that things like, you know, coding fall by the wayside. Which is the story of my Software Engineering course, but I digress...

  • (disco) in reply to tarunik
    tarunik:
    My main problem with that is that it's very easy for not-so-awesome professors to wind up harping on the report deliverables that things like, you know, coding fall by the wayside.

    If they just turn in the code, they're failing to communicate why I ought to give a shit. If they just turn in the report, I'll ask what did they bother to do. That they have to provide both is described in the exercise text that they're all given (and I'll know that they had a copy at one point because I gave it to them by hand, so no excuses).

    But frankly I could almost get away with marking things on the basis of whether the student turns up to tutorials and demonstrates that they've got more ability to think about the problem than a sack of potatoes. It's the ones who can't be bothered to show at all, or can't be bothered to apply themselves, those are the ones that are going to fail in the course work and fail in the exam. Every single time. It's a virtually surefire predictor. (I've had one student who failed but turned up and asked questions, and that was because the idiot decided to plagiarise my own papers back at me. :facepalm:)

  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK
    RaceProUK:
    A cookie: [image]

    Cookie:

    [image]
  • (disco) in reply to dkf
    dkf:
    ... two-part deliverable: code and report.

    That sounds like it covers most of the software area. I'm assuming code includes task running/building processes and instructions as well.

    For my story, we had a module where there was no code/report combo. There was a timed 'coursework' piece, which was actually an exam.

  • (disco) in reply to Shoreline
    Shoreline:
    I'm assuming code includes task running/building processes and instructions as well.

    As long as they describe it in either place, I don't care which. I'm probably not going to actually build and run their code; they're also told to include some screenshots in their report, and I've got damn good at reading the stuff that they write. :smiley:

    If we like them a lot, we'll try to persuade one or two to a more extended project with us. Those are the route that can lead to a PhD and/or a job offer…

  • (disco) in reply to Matt_Westwood

    Impossible. A rogue Al would have spent the whole time trying to exterminate all humans, not producing some shoddy database setup.

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