• (disco) in reply to s73v3r
    s73v3r:
    It's more interesting than simply being known as Software Engineer IV.

    Unfortunately (for him), he became known as Former Software Engineer IV.

  • (disco)

    The Oracle of Delphi

    [size=5]The Circle of Inception is complete[/size]

  • (disco) in reply to HardwareGeek

    Or in the startup world of exaggerated titles, The Engineer Formerly Known As a Software Engineer IV.

  • (disco) in reply to geoff

    The Thpeech Therapitht of LithP

  • (disco)

    Wow, this topic certainly has had more posts than average as of late for an article topic...

  • (disco)

    The ⍎⊖⍕⊃⊂|⌊-*+○⌈×÷!⌽⍉⌹~⍴⍋⍒,⍟?⍳0 of APL

  • (disco) in reply to Onyx
    Onyx:
    ...the go-to Go guy

    Paging @Groaner...

    What's go-ing on here?

  • (disco) in reply to Zylon
    Zylon:
    HE DIDN'T SAY THAT. HE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING LIKE THAT. NOBODY HAS SAID THAT EVER.

    Welcome to TDWTF, where everything's made up and the stories don't matter!

  • (disco) in reply to dargor17

    The RANK ERROR of APL?

  • (disco)

    I'm glad to see that Brad didn't use 'ls', so presumably he used what real men use: 'echo *'. Which, incidentally, is good to know if you ever manage to unmount the file system on which 'ls' is installed. And yes, that is quite feasible. "What do you mean, you should not put /usr on a different file system in Solaris?"

  • (disco) in reply to kupfernigk

    Isn't that a Zero Wing Easter Egg?

  • (disco)

    The Rainman of Brainfuck The Ghost of Whitespace The Librarian of Ook!

  • (disco)

    The Monty Python

  • (disco)

    The Colonel of CoffeeScript The Tyrant of TypeScript

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  • (disco) in reply to Covarr
    Covarr:
    I've really gotta wonder about the wisdom of calling people "moron" over internal emails

    I once stumbled on a comment above some error checking that was along the lines of:

    //client requested that we alert them when they haven't selected a file
    //Incidentally, the client is a moron
    
  • (disco) in reply to Severity_One
    Severity_One:
    is good to know if you ever manage to unmount the file system on which 'ls' is installed.

    Or accidentally nuke your PATH when attempting to add to it on startup. I was real pleased with myself that I managed to figure out the absolute path to ls and nano so I could go undo what I did and reboot.

  • (disco) in reply to Yamikuronue

    off the top of my head i think those are respectively: /bin/ls and /usr/bin/nano

    EDIT: Yup. i remembered right.

  • (disco)

    the gentle brainfucker the maven of maven

    another one: regexosaurus rex

  • (disco) in reply to Daniel_Jawna
    Daniel_Jawna:
    the gentle brainfucker
    That one deserves more than a like :laughing: <!-- Emoji'd by MobileEmoji 0.2.0-->
  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK

    thx

  • (disco)

    <quote>Brad - 1. Moron - 0</quote>

    Did I understand this correctly, Brad minus one, Moron zero?


    GNUru

    RegExPert

    CSharpener

  • (disco) in reply to Jaloopa

    See, I consider that just fair warning. Sort of like how in my tech support days, I a couple times got the user to actually tell the next tech support rep that they had an "ID-10-T" error, which served as a useful warning to that rep.

  • (disco)

    Ahhh, the "burned by insulting on a conference call" oldie. Back in 2007, we were in a large meeting, with a lot of high management levels in the conference room. One of them called one of his underlings and put him on the speakerphone... not before telling him "Hi, I'm putting you on the speakerphone, all of the high level management is currently listening your words". He then proceeds to tell his underling that there was going to be a major release on Saturday and that "we require your assistance during this Saturday".

    Said underling proceeded to say "What? Again? No, fuck you, and tell them to go fuck themselves, I ain't working yet another weekend! Fuck you!".

    That guy didn't get fired mostly because they really needed him. But damn...

  • (disco) in reply to D_Coder

    His alt-meta-Excellency of Emacs, surely?

  • (disco) in reply to ka1axy

    who? Baron von Bucky Bits?

  • (disco)
    kupfernigk:
    (a) we fix a bug caused by new equipment they had bought and (b) there was to be a 6 month freeze effective immediately.

    Have heard the same or variants multiple times. Like: you morons are no longer allowed to remote into our server. But we need you to fix this today!

  • (disco) in reply to Luhmann

    You need to fix this, now! Ok, give me a minute... Hmm, I don't see a record here of a VPN / SSH connection set up... Yeah, we told you you can't have that, it would give you access to our data! (/me skips the firewall rant) Ok, can you arrange me a TeamViewer connection at least? I can SSH into the server that way and take a lo... THAT WOULD GIVE YOU ACCESS TO OUR DATA! You can watch what I'm doing... I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE THINGS YOU TYPE! YOU COULD BE DOING ANYTHING! Ok then, I can arrange a visit to the location then... We could be there in a few hours I guess, given... BUT WE NEED THIS FIXED, NOW!

    :headdesk:

  • (disco) in reply to Luhmann
    Luhmann:
    Have heard the same or variants multiple times. Like: you morons are no longer allowed to remote into our server. But we need you to fix this today!

    That's the point when you need to flatly ask them which it is to be. Fix things or leave alone. It helps if you can also say that you really don't mind which it is, but you absolutely want them to make their minds up. Sometimes you've just got to stop being nice and throw the consequences straight in someone's face to make them realise what they've just asked for.

  • (disco) in reply to Onyx
    Onyx:
    I can arrange a visit to the location then... We could be there in a few hours I guess
    Also add: Since on-site visits are not covered by your maintenance you'll have to agree to the on-site costs. You can apply through your account manager/sales rep to get these waived but I'll have to agree with the on-site costs before I can send someone over. Of course I understand this is difficult but that is our policy. I'll talk with the account manager that these are exceptional circumstances but I can't make any promises.

    That way you can either recuperate some costs when it turns out that the on site was unnecessary or give him a chance to evaluate his position on the remote ban.

  • (disco) in reply to dkf
    dkf:
    That's the point when you need to flatly ask them which it is to be.

    Some people don't know what is good for them ... I once witnessed a 30 minute discussion between a manager and senior dev from our side and several(!) IT and level managers about if it was right to reboot the DB server. The application was non-responsive, it was almost impossible to log in and administer the server and a fail over had just failed. The discussion was won by our manager saying that after the half hour debate it was almost 17h and business would be closing down. If they wanted us to stay on site to watch everything come alive again then they should perform the reboot now.

  • (disco) in reply to Vault_Dweller

    I can't imagine the interviewing process of Linux related position that doesn't involve some sort of combination of "grep", "sed", etc.

    Someone who don't know basic Linux command but "aced the rest of the interview" is definitely TRWTF.

  • (disco)
    kupfernigk:
    Well, yes, that's a common one. Security and admin are having the usual battle, only by proxy. It is when the same person is making mutually exclusive demands you start to believe all this stuff about Aspergers types gravitating to IT.

    I find it's the neurotypical types who get that confused...folks for which the label you stated applies to usually have a better understanding of logic than that!

  • (disco)
    kupfernigk:
    you start to believe all this stuff about Aspergers types gravitating to IT
    As an Aspie in IT, I feel obligated to respond to this statement and say it's definitely a conceivable notion ;) The skills required in IT actually play well to the benefits of being an Aspie; our logical way of thinking does help a lot in understanding both problems and solutions. Just a pity we're a bit shit in social situations :confused:

    What, did you think I'd be offended? :laughing: Nah; generally, I'm pretty difficult to offend ;)

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  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK
    RaceProUK:
    Just a pity we're a bit shit in social situations

    I used to be really bad, but I learned a number of tricks. Things like look at the bridge of someone's nose; it's just about impossible for the person (or anyone else) to distinguish from proper facial contact. It beats staring at their shoes. :smile:

    It also helps if I can make sure I know what I'm talking about; I can't bullshit people face to face.

  • (disco)
    kupfernigk:
    Reading my remark I found it to be unintentionally offensive and I apologise for it.
    Hey, don't worry about it; I didn't find it offensive ;) <!-- Emoji'd by MobileEmoji 0.2.0-->
  • (disco)
    kupfernigk:
    My nephew has Aspergers.

    /me raises paw

    Yep. me too... unless the latest edition of the DSM reclassified me (it's been a while since i had my shrink update my chart)

    kupfernigk:
    Reading my remark I found it to be unintentionally offensive and I apologise for it.

    No worries. It was pretty obvious you weren't trying to offend, so no offense taken. ;-)

  • (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    /me raises paw

    Yep. me too

    Another thing we have in common :smile:
    RaceProUK:
    As an Aspie in IT
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  • (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    unless the latest edition of the DSM reclassified me

    DSM V has removed Aspergers completely, it's now part of Autistic Spectrum Disorder. There seem to be a decent amount of psychologists who think it should still be a separate condition, but from what I've seen there's no real consensus on what makes someone Aspergers rather than Autistic

  • (disco) in reply to Jaloopa
    Jaloopa:
    DSM V has removed Aspergers completely, it's now part of Autistic Spectrum Disorder
    Not really sure what to think about that myself. But in the absence of anything more concrete, I guess it's the best we have to go on. <!-- Emoji'd by MobileEmoji 0.2.0-->
  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK

    The NHS doesn't officially use the DSM, and Aspergers is still in the ICD-10. DSM is still pretty influential though

  • (disco) in reply to Jaloopa
    Jaloopa:
    DSM is still pretty influential though

    The Diagnostic Diva

  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla

    The Bonkers Bible

  • (disco) in reply to Jaloopa

    The Malady Manual

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  • (disco) in reply to RaceProUK

    I read that as the M'Lady manual.

    Written by this guy [image]

  • (disco) in reply to Luhmann
    Luhmann:
    I once witnessed a 30 minute discussion between a manager and senior dev from our side and several(!) IT and level managers about if it was right to reboot the DB server.

    It comes down to this: When managers are faced with a technical problem, they either (a) hold meetings, or (b) stand behind the desk of whoever is actually solving the problem (sometimes providing "advice"). Both of those activities at best do nothing and not infrequently make things work by demanding the technical people (the ones who can do something useful) spend their valuable time reporting back to them.

    So why do they do it so consistently? Because everyone in the organization is telling them to "Do something, now!", and the manager who gives the right answer ("Our best technical people are working on getting it fixed as quickly as they possibly can. Please be patient and let them do their jobs. I will inform you the moment the situation changes.") is seen as "passive". S/he might know perfectly well that taking stupid actions makes it worse, but also knows that if s/he is perceived to have stepped in during a crisis it will look like s/he fixed a problem for stupid subordinates whereas if s/he lets them work s/he'll end up having to accept blame for the problem existing in the first place.

    The world of management is one in which perception trumps reality, every time.

  • (disco) in reply to EatenByAGrue

    So you create a task force of developers who go into meetings about how to fix it, while a couple of others get on with actually fixing it.

  • (disco) in reply to Jaloopa
    Jaloopa:
    task force

    Don't forget to ask for hourly updates and kpi's or progress indicators. Preferably to be filled in in some excel somewhere ...

  • (disco) in reply to Jaloopa

    reminds me of vetinari and committees

    [spoiler]He was a great believer in letting a thousand voices be heard, because this meant that all he actually needed to do was listen only to the ones that had anything useful to say, “useful” in this case being defined in the classic civil-service way as “inclining to my point of view.” In his experience, it was a number generally smaller than ten. The people who wanted a thousand, etc., really meant that they wanted their own voice to be heard while the other nine hundred and ninety-nine were ignored, and for this purpose the gods had invented the committee. Vetinari was very good at committees, especially when Drumknott took the minutes. What the iron maiden was to stupid tyrants, the committee was to Lord Vetinari; it was only slightly more expensive,1 far less messy, considerably more efficient, and, best of all, you had to force people to climb inside the iron maiden. 1 The only real expense was tea and biscuits halfway through, which seldom happened with the iron maiden.[/spoiler]

    EDIT: erm, Discourse, if you could blur that it would be great

  • (disco) in reply to Jarry

    reminds me of vetinari and committees

    [spoiler]He was a great believer in letting a thousand voices be heard, because this meant that all he actually needed to do was listen only to the ones that had anything useful to say, “useful” in this case being defined in the classic civil-service way as “inclining to my point of view.” In his experience, it was a number generally smaller than ten. The people who wanted a thousand, etc., really meant that they wanted their own voice to be heard while the other nine hundred and ninety-nine were ignored, and for this purpose the gods had invented the committee. Vetinari was very good at committees, especially when Drumknott took the minutes. What the iron maiden was to stupid tyrants, the committee was to Lord Vetinari; it was only slightly more expensive,1 far less messy, considerably more efficient, and, best of all, you had to force people to climb inside the iron maiden.[/spoiler]

    [spoiler]1 The only real expense was tea and biscuits halfway through, which seldom happened with the iron maiden.[/spoiler]

    Newlines are a barrier to spoilers

  • (disco) in reply to Jaloopa

    thanks, edited. :wtf:

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