• diaphanein (unregistered)

    I think he forgot to include the line breaks when typing the answer...

  • (cs)

    What is up with the wheelchair person?

    I know I've seen it somewhere before. And here is where ...

  • (cs)

    The title of this entry makes me think it would be amusing to make the CAPTCHA be controversial and opinionated phrases the user is likely to disagree with.

    CAPTCHA: communism is superior to capitalism

  • CF (unregistered) in reply to joe.edwards

    Captcha: Cold Fusion rocks!

  • Mark (unregistered)

    I believe that captcha system is used by google. The little wheel chair if you click it will speak a series of characters to be typed in. Try signing up for a new gmail account to see what I mean.

  • Abe (unregistered) in reply to CF

    Captcha: Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this. But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth

  • (cs) in reply to Mark
    Mark:
    I believe that captcha system is used by google. The little wheel chair if you click it will speak a series of characters to be typed in. Try signing up for a new gmail account to see what I mean.
    Are you saying Google discriminates against the deafblind?
  • Sharkie (unregistered)

    The wheelchair icon basically means you can't park your mouse on that spot of screen without the proper tags.

  • Semmelbroesel (unregistered)

    Muahaha, that's a funny one!

    captcha: gotcha (sic!)

  • Zonkers (unregistered)

    Hilarious, a self-referencing WTF. Or should I say "an introspective WTF"?

  • (cs) in reply to joe.edwards

    Good luck using a computer in general if you're deafblind. We evidently need braille monitors.

  • Mark (unregistered) in reply to joe.edwards

    I think they do. They should call... err, write.. err.. well get a lawyer and file class action.

  • (cs) in reply to Ooble
    Ooble:
    Good luck using a computer in general if you're deafblind. We evidently need braille monitors.
    Sooo, that would be a monitor implemented sort of like a news ticker - but with little braille bumps and indentations... sounds like actual ticker tape to me (yes, I'm old enough to actually have worked with the stuff)...
  • (cs) in reply to snoofle
  • facetious (unregistered)

    The REAL WTF is that this WTF poster decided to validate and encourage all those comments that type their captchas.

  • (cs) in reply to Ooble

    Braille terminals exist. And console-mode software that would be perfectly suitable is alive and well.

    But never mind the deafblind - for the normal blind, Google is expecting the use to click a not-very-big icon that then activates a javascript link which opens a flash widget; AFAIK screenreaders often don't like javascript. Not to mention the audio is intentionally unclear - making it of little use to one who may not be fully deafblind, but poorly sighted and hard-of-hearing.

  • (cs) in reply to snoofle
    snoofle:
    Ooble:
    Good luck using a computer in general if you're deafblind. We evidently need braille monitors.
    Sooo, that would be a monitor implemented sort of like a news ticker - but with little braille bumps and indentations... sounds like actual ticker tape to me (yes, I'm old enough to actually have worked with the stuff)...

    Well at least they could read thier RSS feeds

  • Mordac (unregistered)
  • Shinobu (unregistered)

    Am I correct in observing that we've established that people in wheelchairs need to click on a tiny icon because they can't read the captcha and need to have the text read to them?

  • Anonymous Coward (unregistered) in reply to snoofle
    snoofle:
    Sooo, that would be a monitor implemented sort of like a news ticker - but with little braille bumps and indentations... sounds like actual ticker tape to me (yes, I'm old enough to actually have worked with the stuff)...

    I'm only old enough to remember when Dilbert was still funny.

  • Anonymouse (unregistered) in reply to Ooble

    Evidently blind & deaf people are okay to drive since drive up ATMs have braille and headphone jacks. THAT is TRWTF.

  • Barf (unregistered) in reply to Ooble
    Ooble:
    Good luck using a computer in general if you're deafblind. We evidently need braille monitors.

    C'mon...you're not a real geek if you've never seen Sneakers...

  • (cs) in reply to Anonymouse
    Anonymouse:
    Evidently blind & deaf people are okay to drive since drive up ATMs have braille and headphone jacks. THAT is TRWTF.

    No, not really.

    It's probably cheaper to have a standard ATM than get a customized one without the braille. Heck, you might not even be able to get parts that don't have braille.

    I've also heard people say that it's to let people drive grandma to the bank, but I'm going to go with "money". It's a bank. They'll kill you for $1; they aren't into altruism.

  • (cs) in reply to Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward:
    snoofle:
    Sooo, that would be a monitor implemented sort of like a news ticker - but with little braille bumps and indentations... sounds like actual ticker tape to me (yes, I'm old enough to actually have worked with the stuff)...

    I'm only old enough to remember when Dilbert was still funny.

    It's not that Dilbert has stopped being funny. It's just that as you get older, the more likely it is that it's either happened to you or (as in my case) is happening to you right now. (Not the password one from this forum, but several of the recent ones have been almost identical to what's happening to me.)

    It's not funny if you're actually in the strip.

  • (cs) in reply to Barf

    umm just for the record. As said before, braille readers exist, and OMG get used. And the blind will use the TAB key instead of mouse. Why? well perhaps because there blind so a visual pointer device isn't that useful.

    The fact it uses flash, isn't that bad either. But if the user doesn't have flash, there should be a option to just download the soundfile and let a application handle it.

    But it isn't all bad, there's a hidden link (behind a 1x1 img?) that's for people with screenreaders. the final solution they offer is "If you can't find a problem with your speakers or sound settings, and you're unable to complete the word verification, please contact us so that we can create an account for you." http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?answer=33974

    So in essence, it could have been better, but it's possible for everyone to have a account.

  • (cs) in reply to diaphanein

    Hahaha I like that.

    Still, if it had gone REALLY wrong, we might have been having to type in:

    "SELECT * FROM tblCaptchaText WHERE id=rnd()"

  • Peter {faa780ce-0f0a-4c28-81d2-3667b71287fd} (unregistered)

    Everyone needs to go check out the most effective human/robot test out there: HotCAPTCHA.com. I'm not going to spoil it for you:

    http://www.hotcaptcha.com/

  • (cs) in reply to themagni
    themagni:
    Anonymous Coward:
    snoofle:
    Sooo, that would be a monitor implemented sort of like a news ticker - but with little braille bumps and indentations... sounds like actual ticker tape to me (yes, I'm old enough to actually have worked with the stuff)...

    I'm only old enough to remember when Dilbert was still funny.

    It's not that Dilbert has stopped being funny. It's just that as you get older, the more likely it is that it's either happened to you or (as in my case) is happening to you right now. (Not the password one from this forum, but several of the recent ones have been almost identical to what's happening to me.)

    It's not funny if you're actually in the strip.

    It's less that, more the intense Deja Vu you get whenever you read a strip once you've been reading for more than a couple of years. "Didn't they run the same gag two years ago?" "Wasn't that one from four years ago?" "Damn, I just read that last week. Oh, this is last week's paper." If you're a total funnies geek like me, you might have a comics.com subscription and verify that yes, he DID recycle the same old joke.

    There must be someone out there nerd enough to have collected all dilbert, garfield, cathy, etc strips and sorted them by category, to present a huge list of all the duplicate punch lines. ;p

  • (cs)

    Should I be glad I failed the men on that ultimate captcha site?

  • Russ (unregistered) in reply to CF
    CF:
    Captcha: Cold Fusion rocks!

    I know it rocks if it works, but I believe it's still very theoretical, and nobody has been able to successfully demonstrate Cold Fusion.

  • Anonymous Coward (unregistered) in reply to foxyshadis
    foxyshadis:
    themagni:
    Anonymous Coward:

    I'm only old enough to remember when Dilbert was still funny.

    It's not that Dilbert has stopped being funny. It's just that as you get older, the more likely it is that it's either happened to you or (as in my case) is happening to you right now. (Not the password one from this forum, but several of the recent ones have been almost identical to what's happening to me.)

    It's not funny if you're actually in the strip.

    It's less that, more the intense Deja Vu you get whenever you read a strip once you've been reading for more than a couple of years. "Didn't they run the same gag two years ago?" "Wasn't that one from four years ago?" "Damn, I just read that last week. Oh, this is last week's paper." If you're a total funnies geek like me, you might have a comics.com subscription and verify that yes, he DID recycle the same old joke.

    There must be someone out there nerd enough to have collected all dilbert, garfield, cathy, etc strips and sorted them by category, to present a huge list of all the duplicate punch lines. ;p

    I have a comics.com. dalyink.com and a mycomicpage.com account. I didn't either bother to add Dilbert to my daily page when comics.com launched.

    When Adams quit his job (was it at Pac Bell?) he lost touch with reality. Dilbert's about as real as Cathy or Family Circus now.

  • Greg (unregistered) in reply to themagni

    ATMs are required by law to have braille and headphone jacks and I don't think the distinguishes between drive up and walk up ATMs.

  • orb (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward:
    foxyshadis:
    themagni:
    Anonymous Coward:

    I'm only old enough to remember when Dilbert was still funny.

    It's not that Dilbert has stopped being funny. It's just that as you get older, the more likely it is that it's either happened to you or (as in my case) is happening to you right now. (Not the password one from this forum, but several of the recent ones have been almost identical to what's happening to me.)

    It's not funny if you're actually in the strip.

    It's less that, more the intense Deja Vu you get whenever you read a strip once you've been reading for more than a couple of years. "Didn't they run the same gag two years ago?" "Wasn't that one from four years ago?" "Damn, I just read that last week. Oh, this is last week's paper." If you're a total funnies geek like me, you might have a comics.com subscription and verify that yes, he DID recycle the same old joke.

    There must be someone out there nerd enough to have collected all dilbert, garfield, cathy, etc strips and sorted them by category, to present a huge list of all the duplicate punch lines. ;p

    I have a comics.com. dalyink.com and a mycomicpage.com account. I didn't either bother to add Dilbert to my daily page when comics.com launched.

    When Adams quit his job (was it at Pac Bell?) he lost touch with reality. Dilbert's about as real as Cathy or Family Circus now.

    I think he's just ahead of his time and predicting the near future. Work will really be that unreal soon if things keep going the same way.

  • Eric (unregistered)

    The August 19, 2002 Dilbert was about an old college friend of mine, Evan Brown.

    It looks like it is no longer available. The link at his web site, unixguru.com no longer works.

  • Complete Looney (unregistered) in reply to Eric
    Eric:
    The August 19, 2002 Dilbert was about an old college friend of mine, Evan Brown.

    This one?

    ASOK: "Sweet mother of potatoes! I just thought of a billion-dollar idea!!" PHB: "The company own all of your ideas. Cough it up or I'll fire you and then sue you." ASOK: "WAA!" Whatsername: "Your first billion-dollar idea is always the hardest."

    (captcha: onomatopoeia??)

  • Hank Miller (unregistered) in reply to Eric

    Every drive up ATM I've seen has been fully accessable on foot. For a few years I had to do this as the window on my car did not work. (I didn't have AC either).

    No I could not go inside, as I was only able to get to the bank after hours. I refuse to pay ATM fees, so the drive up ATMs were my only choice.

    Brail and headphones on an ATM only seem silly if you think that just because you CAN drive your car up to them, therefore you CANNOT walk up. The two do not follow.

  • (cs) in reply to Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward:
    ... When Adams quit his job (was it at Pac Bell?) he lost touch with reality. Dilbert's about as real as Cathy or Family Circus now.
    No, I don't think he has lost touch with reality. He receives tons of e-mail from fans describing their office shenanigans.
  • Rolf (unregistered)
    Brail and headphones on an ATM only seem silly if you think that just because you CAN drive your car up to them, therefore you CANNOT walk up. The two do not follow.

    It's far cheaper to product one atm machine type than two types of atm machines. That's why.

  • Bill Trent (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward:
    When Adams quit his job (was it at Pac Bell?) he lost touch with reality. Dilbert's about as real as Cathy or Family Circus now.

    You know, I never thought Cathy or Family Circus were very in touch with reality, but I know I'm often unsure of whether I should laugh at Dilbert because something very similar has happened in my office.

  • ulmi (unregistered)

    See http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/focusbug/description.txt for a real (and security-relevant) application of long captchas.

    captcha: onomatopoeia. Doesn't being able to type that correctly prove that I am a robot?

  • Nero (unregistered) in reply to quarnel

    OK, as far as I recognize, the wheelchair needs to be clicked if someone is blind and can't read the captcha. And this leads to another WTF: How the hell a blind person can ever see the wheelchair image?? (OK, I know, it has to have some "alternative text" - but what the image is for?)

    Captcha: "ewww". Yeah.

  • Wulf (unregistered) in reply to ulmi

    That there hotcaptcha was a bit off. I got several of the same image, several times when I tried it. Not only that, but it varies greatly with taste, so if you are a lippophile, you will not make it thru if you are honest. ;)

  • Whoever (unregistered) in reply to themagni

    No, no. It is still funny, it is just too painful to laugh.

  • Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to Nero

    No, no.. passwords are Words, long phrases are passphrases! You use passphrases to create your .SSL key :D

  • some anonymous bastard (unregistered) in reply to Nero
    Nero:
    OK, as far as I recognize, the wheelchair needs to be clicked if someone is blind and can't read the captcha. And this leads to another WTF: How the hell a blind person can ever see the wheelchair image?? (OK, I know, it has to have some "alternative text" - but what the image is for?)

    Captcha: "ewww". Yeah.

    People who can see, but might still have problems with eyesight, perhaps? Color blindness is one thing that comes to mind.

  • (cs)

    So much for following directions.

    The TeleConferencing system our company uses uses the most bizaare phrase-ology with its instructions. When you are entering a conference you are directed to: "At the tone, please state your name followed by the pound key". So, whenever I join a conference, the rest of the conferees hear my voice saying, "Thom Parkin, followed by the pound key"

  • jkupski (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward:
    When Adams quit his job (was it at Pac Bell?) he lost touch with reality. Dilbert's about as real as Cathy or Family Circus now.

    IIRC, Adams said in the Dilbert Principle that he TRIES to make his comic as unrealistic as possible... and everytime he comes up with something absolutely off the wall, someone will email him saying "that exact thing happened at my company last week!"

  • Troy McClure (unregistered) in reply to Anonymouse
    Anonymouse:
    Evidently blind & deaf people are okay to drive since drive up ATMs have braille and headphone jacks. THAT is TRWTF.

    That is the most played out "Hey did you ever notice thing" ever. The factory just cranks out ATM's regardless of whether they're being made for inside the bank, inside a stadium or driveup.

  • Troy McClure (unregistered) in reply to Nero
    Nero:
    OK, as far as I recognize, the wheelchair needs to be clicked if someone is blind and can't read the captcha. And this leads to another WTF: How the hell a blind person can ever see the wheelchair image?? (OK, I know, it has to have some "alternative text" - but what the image is for?)

    Captcha: "ewww". Yeah.

    Its not even for the blind necessarily - some sites are very tough to read even for me (not this one but others). They'll have a line in the middle or the letters are out of whack - it simply will read the letters out loud.

  • grumpy (unregistered) in reply to Zonkers
    Zonkers:
    Hilarious, a self-referencing WTF. Or should I say "an introspective WTF"?
    More like a meta-WTF... :)

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