• Kef Schecter (unregistered) in reply to Inhibeo
    Inhibeo:
    Sysadmin was a jackass, made a simple mistake.

    Commenter was a jackass, made a stupid comment.

  • (cs) in reply to tarded
    tarded:
    Not sure why people who see MAR00 would instantly think it was a zero based index. It looks more like a year to me
    For the excellent reason that that was not all he saw, as is explicitly pointed out: he saw FEB-26 and FEB-27 (but *not* FEB-28) and MAR-00 and MAR-01 and MAR-02 and so on.
  • (cs)

    I can't believe nobody has posted this line yet, and it really is obligatory.

    There are three kinds of people in the world: those who make off-by-one errors, and those who don't.

    I guess "there's one kind of person in the world..." would make more sense, but it doesn't sound quite right.

  • bill bones (unregistered) in reply to Your Name

    Read top paragraph:

    ... and even more so for the poor CompSci students ...

  • (cs)

    I can't believe nobody's spotted The Real WTF(tm) yet: Using a one-based index for day-of-month numbering. If we used zero-based days, like any sane civilization, Eric would have been right!

  • anon (unregistered) in reply to tarded
    tarded:
    Not sure why people who see MAR00 would instantly think it was a zero based index. It looks more like a year to me, like maybe the sys-admin was looking at the 2000 year, or maybe reusing the media without having the device in record mode or something.

    Context maybe? Since they were just looking at MAR21... AND the admin said.. "See, March 21st!"

    So if I saw MAR00 in the same folder as MAR21, I'd probably assume it was a messed up date, and not referencing the year 2000 (does MAR21 seem to reference 1921 or 2021 to you?)

  • EatenByAGrue (unregistered) in reply to bui
    bui:
    BOFH in training

    Definitely in training - Murray was capable of reporting the problem to his boss. A real BOFH knows to either blackmail him, get him expelled, or kill him.

  • the beholder (unregistered) in reply to Jake
    Jake:
    The sysadmin physically shoving a student and getting away with it is also a huge WTF.
    See, there's this thing we call "embelishment"... You may not notice it right now but the more articles you read the easier you'll spot it.
  • Anonymoose (unregistered)
    his Rational Rose midterm project

    That's TRWTF.

  • Murray M (unregistered) in reply to the beholder
    the beholder:
    Jake:
    The sysadmin physically shoving a student and getting away with it is also a huge WTF.
    See, there's this thing we call "embelishment"... You may not notice it right now but the more articles you read the easier you'll spot it.

    Oh no, he did shove me, and he put his face within a inch or two of mine. If anything, the description of the confrontation was down-played.

  • abc (unregistered) in reply to Murray M
    Murray M:
    the beholder:
    Jake:
    The sysadmin physically shoving a student and getting away with it is also a huge WTF.
    See, there's this thing we call "embelishment"... You may not notice it right now but the more articles you read the easier you'll spot it.

    Oh no, he did shove me, and he put his face within a inch or two of mine. If anything, the description of the confrontation was down-played.

    ROAR! Attack of the killer sysadmin!

  • Kalem13 (unregistered) in reply to n

    Yep, same thing here. I am in software engineering and we have two very healty computer lab. Very useful to do your Oracle assignement in a hurry when you don't want to conjure arcane magic to install the client on your laptop. Also very useful for "lab" period where the teacher actually go to the lab with the class and is here to answer any question you have while you work. This is also a necessity since buying the laptops with the leased software licences is not mandatory(1), but the assignement to be done with them are.

    (1) The way this laptop work is that you buy a laptop,then for the time you are at the university the tech install their own Windows installation with all the software you need, and after you graduate you can keep the laptop hardware (whipped clean of Oracle, Visual Studio, Maple, Matlab and the like).

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to Kalem13
    Kalem13:
    (1) The way this laptop work is that you buy a laptop,then for the time you are at the university the tech install their own Windows installation with all the software you need, and after you graduate you can keep the laptop hardware (whipped clean of Oracle, Visual Studio, Maple, Matlab and the like).

    Or you could image the HD, let them wipe it, and then restore everything from the image. But I'm sure nobody would try such a thing.

  • Murray M (unregistered) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    Kalem13:
    (1) The way this laptop work is that you buy a laptop,then for the time you are at the university the tech install their own Windows installation with all the software you need, and after you graduate you can keep the laptop hardware (whipped clean of Oracle, Visual Studio, Maple, Matlab and the like).

    Or you could image the HD, let them wipe it, and then restore everything from the image. But I'm sure nobody would try such a thing.

    Thats what THIS cat is doing right now!!!!

    [image]
  • Harrow (unregistered) in reply to Rod
    Rod:
    topspin:
    At my uni you walked into the lab, logged in somewhere and were good to go. You can only fuck up your _own_ account anyway.

    At my uni, you walked into the lab, turned all the monitors upside down, then legged it

    So that was you? Damn you to hell!

    I stood on my head every day for five weeks before I figured it out...

    -Harrow.

  • (cs) in reply to Inhibeo
    Inhibeo:
    Sysadmin was made out to be a jackass by user to excuse his own jackassiness, made a simple mistake.
    FTFY.
  • Dopey (unregistered) in reply to dpm

    Bob aint my uncle. It's a good blog for us programmer types, but bob aint my uncle.

    capture: illum

  • (cs) in reply to Murray M
    Murray M:
    the beholder:
    Jake:
    The sysadmin physically shoving a student and getting away with it is also a huge WTF.
    See, there's this thing we call "embelishment"... You may not notice it right now but the more articles you read the easier you'll spot it.

    Oh no, he did shove me, and he put his face within a inch or two of mine. If anything, the description of the confrontation was down-played.

    Yeah, along with your goading and the low salary and the contract that never mentioned he'd have to deal with jerks like you.

    Or is sysadmin a charity in your country?

  • (cs) in reply to rfsmit

    This thread needs more Serious Cat

    [image]
    Yeah, along with your goading and the low salary and the contract that never mentioned he'd have to deal with jerks like you.

    Or is sysadmin a charity in your country?

    There are two types of sysadmin, those who end up bitter, twisted and alone, and those who do not.

    Another way of putting it is, two wrongs dont make a right.

  • Asmodeus (unregistered) in reply to Fred
    Fred:
    Saying that, I have been lucky at my job, the sysadmin is some giggly rastafarian.

    Well... most of You have been lucky... I'm a sysadmin, a BOFH and also I'm a Satanist, Goth etc... beware my little users!!

  • Goat (unregistered) in reply to rfsmit
    rfsmit:
    Murray M:
    the beholder:
    Jake:
    The sysadmin physically shoving a student and getting away with it is also a huge WTF.
    See, there's this thing we call "embelishment"... You may not notice it right now but the more articles you read the easier you'll spot it.

    Oh no, he did shove me, and he put his face within a inch or two of mine. If anything, the description of the confrontation was down-played.

    Yeah, along with your goading and the low salary and the contract that never mentioned he'd have to deal with jerks like you.

    Or is sysadmin a charity in your country?

    See the sysadmin. See the sysadmin blame the user. See the sysadmin feel self-righteous.

  • anon (unregistered)

    Interesting. I smell excellent lawsuit fodder here.

  • spellnig (unregistered) in reply to Kef Schecter

    Not only is there no 28th day in February, apparently there's also no 'r'.

  • (cs) in reply to Yardik
    Yardik:
    Not everyone uses Details view in windows.. some like their ugly huge icon views.

    Captcha: wisi - Umm.. yea.

    More likely simple list view. With short filenames such as this you'd get multiple columns, allowing many files to be listed in the window at once.

    From XP on, the icon view generally lists dates anyway. It seems to vary by file type though.

  • EmperorOfCanada (unregistered)

    Now that most students bring their own machines which massively reduces the hardware powertripping that the admins have. So how have they made up for this gap in their douchery. My guess is that it would be via port blocking and other connectivity hurdles. "A wide open pipe for $8000 a month. Instead we will get a $2000/mo pipe and spend the other $6000/mo on hardware and software to make everyone miserable. In fact I am flying to a course on deep packet inspection."

    When I attended SMU in the early 90s the comp sci people had crappy old vax terminals in dank dark rooms while the business guys had sunny rooms full of kick ass machines. Much of this was the politics of the place. Now I suspect that there is a list a mile long of rule about banned software and other things. If I were trying to win douche admin of the year award I would make certain software mandatory and then get kickbacks from the vendors.

  • eric76 (unregistered)

    A friend of mine is the head of a computer lab at one major university.

    To gain access to that lab, you have to slide your ID through a reader to magnetically unlock the door.

    He commented to me once that the easiest way to get in is to hit the fire alarm. As soon as the alarm goes off, the power to all the magnetic locks goes off so that people can evacuate the building.

  • stu (unregistered) in reply to lolwtf
    lolwtf:
    Yardik:
    Not everyone uses Details view in windows.. some like their ugly huge icon views.

    Captcha: wisi - Umm.. yea.

    More likely simple list view. With short filenames such as this you'd get multiple columns, allowing many files to be listed in the window at once.

    From XP on, the icon view generally lists dates anyway. It seems to vary by file type though.

    Not by file type, but by order. Order by date, it'll display dates. Order by artist, it'll display a name. Fun isn't it.

  • Jim (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous

    I find that offensive.

    The sysadmin didn't herd all the students into death camps and systematically murder them.

  • (cs)

    The thing that nobody mentioned:

    the function localtime() in the POSIX API returns 1-indexed days, but 0-indexed months (i.e. exactly the other way round). This stupidity goes so far that it even extends into Perl and JavaScript.

    So what has happened here, is that a coder messed up when "fixing" the date numbers... he should have just added 1 to the month, but for some reason he also subtracted 1 from the day. Or, he had used an API that tries to "fix" POSIX madness by also subtracting 1 from the day to make both 0-indexed, and the coder just added 1 to the month "as usual".

  • Willie Makeit (unregistered) in reply to Anonymoose
    Anonymoose:
    his Rational Rose midterm project

    That's TRWTF.

    I don't see why. Universities don't need The Best(tm) tool, they just need one which offers free or very cheap bulk student licencing

  • Willie Makeit (unregistered) in reply to Murray M

    Don't be silly, cats ca...ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD

    [image]
  • your friendly sysadmin (unregistered)
    Still shaking at the prospect of a fist fight with the system administrator,
    Trust me, beating you up isn't nearly the most serious thing your sysadmin can do if you piss him off.

    Don't believe me? What was your username, again?

  • Steve the Cynic (unregistered) in reply to your friendly sysadmin
    your friendly sysadmin:
    Still shaking at the prospect of a fist fight with the system administrator,
    Trust me, beating you up isn't nearly the most serious thing your sysadmin can do if you piss him off.

    Don't believe me? What was your username, again?

    A little care is in order. In the style of jujitsu that I studied for four years before leaving the UK, IT bods were disproportionately represented compared to other occupations, aside from ...

    ... students ...

    Ha ha!

    (attempt 1)

  • Betty Wont (unregistered) in reply to Steve the Cynic
    Steve the Cynic:
    your friendly sysadmin:
    Still shaking at the prospect of a fist fight with the system administrator,
    Trust me, beating you up isn't nearly the most serious thing your sysadmin can do if you piss him off.

    Don't believe me? What was your username, again?

    A little care is in order. In the style of jujitsu that I studied for four years before leaving the UK, IT bods were disproportionately represented compared to other occupations, aside from ...

    ... students ...

    Ha ha!

    (attempt 1)

    INTERNET TOUGH GUY ALERT! INTERNET TOUGH GUY ALERT! INTERNET TOUGH GUY ALERT! INTERNET TOUGH GUY ALERT! INTERNET TOUGH GUY ALERT! INTERNET TOUGH GUY ALERT!

  • (cs) in reply to Murray M
    Murray M:
    the beholder:
    Jake:
    The sysadmin physically shoving a student and getting away with it is also a huge WTF.
    See, there's this thing we call "embelishment"... You may not notice it right now but the more articles you read the easier you'll spot it.

    Oh no, he did shove me, and he put his face within a inch or two of mine. If anything, the description of the confrontation was down-played.

    And you failed to punch him in the face? Disappointing.

  • SR (unregistered) in reply to Asmodeus
    Asmodeus:
    Well... most of You have been lucky... I'm a sysadmin, a BOFH and also I'm a Satanist, Goth etc... beware my little users!!

    You are Richmond and I claim my £5!

  • Roy (unregistered) in reply to SR

    I LOLed!

  • Roy (unregistered) in reply to Roy
    Roy:
    I LOLed!
    Err, at the 'You are Richmond..." quote, I hasten to add.

    (grr - umpteenth attempt...)

  • srcspider (unregistered) in reply to dpm

    The reason he doesn't see the timestamp is because he likely doesn't have it turned on.

  • Sir Wilhelm (unregistered) in reply to Jeff
    Jeff:
    Our biggest problems were filling the paper trays in the satellite labs and the lady who declared that we were chinese spies.

    More on this?

  • Addison (unregistered)

    Sysadmin at colleges are ALWAYS jackasses. It's practically in their job description.

  • (cs) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    Kalem13:
    (1) The way this laptop work is that you buy a laptop,then for the time you are at the university the tech install their own Windows installation with all the software you need, and after you graduate you can keep the laptop hardware (whipped clean of Oracle, Visual Studio, Maple, Matlab and the like).

    Or you could image the HD, let them wipe it, and then restore everything from the image. But I'm sure nobody would try such a thing.

    At that point why not just torrent the software you want? It'd almost certainly be no less legal.

  • anon (unregistered) in reply to eric76
    eric76:
    A friend of mine is the head of a computer lab at one major university.

    To gain access to that lab, you have to slide your ID through a reader to magnetically unlock the door.

    He commented to me once that the easiest way to get in is to hit the fire alarm. As soon as the alarm goes off, the power to all the magnetic locks goes off so that people can evacuate the building.

    Wouldn't that draw a lot of unwanted attention?

  • I Never Said This... (unregistered) in reply to Jim
    Jim:
    I find that offensive.

    The sysadmin didn't herd all the students into death camps and systematically murder them.

    Only because they haven't figured out a way to do so.
  • mh (unregistered) in reply to Jim
    Jim:
    I find that offensive.

    The sysadmin didn't herd all the students into death camps and systematically murder them.

    Ooooh, ideas!
  • Epicenter (unregistered) in reply to Murray M
    Murray M:
    the beholder:
    Jake:
    The sysadmin physically shoving a student and getting away with it is also a huge WTF.
    See, there's this thing we call "embelishment"... You may not notice it right now but the more articles you read the easier you'll spot it.

    Oh no, he did shove me, and he put his face within a inch or two of mine. If anything, the description of the confrontation was down-played.

    That's why I hate that there's embellishment at all in these articles. I don't want to have to decide whether I think something really happened, especially when I end up guessing wrong.

  • Incredulous (unregistered) in reply to Epicenter
    Epicenter:
    That's why I hate that there's embellishment at all in these articles. I don't want to have to decide whether I think something really happened, especially when I end up guessing wrong.

    You're complaining about the quality of free fiction on the Internet?

  • Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to Your Name

    Dunno. Graduated this summer and most of the kids I graduated with spent lots of time in the labs. I did most of my work on my own machine though, sshing to the comp sci server if I needed access to the Oracle server or anything. Generally, though, we tended to only use software that was freely available (and thus installable on personal machines).

    The only class I needed to use the computer lab for was an Operating Systems class. most was done in a vm but the parellel printer and serial terminal drivers were tested/fixed with old lab hardware.

  • Here's a nickel, kid (unregistered) in reply to Epicenter
    Epicenter:
    Murray M:
    the beholder:
    Jake:
    The sysadmin physically shoving a student and getting away with it is also a huge WTF.
    See, there's this thing we call "embelishment"... You may not notice it right now but the more articles you read the easier you'll spot it.

    Oh no, he did shove me, and he put his face within a inch or two of mine. If anything, the description of the confrontation was down-played.

    That's why I hate that there's embellishment at all in these articles. I don't want to have to decide whether I think something really happened, especially when I end up guessing wrong.

    Yeah, I know what you mean, I almost quit coming here. Why get in a lather over something that may not have happened? Then I figured, wtf, I enjoy the comments & the trolls, get a grin from some of the more clever frists, then the comments from people pissing & moaning about all the frists, then the grammar nazi'z that come along and bitch about how frist should be Capitolized...etc, etc.

  • regeya (unregistered) in reply to Your Name
    I graduated 15 years ago and the only time I stepped foot in a lab was to either use a free laser printer or to grab printout from a line printer.

    I was wondering that too. That was the main reason why I used our uni's comp-sci labs, at about the same time. Since the campus had atrocious connectivity issues, and I lived on-campus, I had an ancient 486 running Slackware. For classes that used C, I learned to love standards, because it put me a little ahead of the goofballs who wrote to specific compiler quirks. :->

    The connectivity problem caused me to use labs more than I might have, though. Some of those classes used the most arcane compilers and interpreters ever...

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