• Drain Bamage (unregistered)

Great success!

• HeebyJeeby (unregistered)

How the heck is that last one a WTF? It's only giving the option to repeat it on the same day of the month you chose or the placement of the day you chose (i.e. third Wednesday of every month).

CAPTCHA: causa - Causa you stupid!

• LSK (unregistered)

I'm not sure I understand the last purported error - I think they're just two separate options for reminder dates.

• (cs) in reply to HeebyJeeby
HeebyJeeby:
How the heck is that last one a WTF? It's only giving the option to repeat it on the same day of the month you chose or the placement of the day you chose (i.e. third Wednesday of every month).

CAPTCHA: causa - Causa you stupid!

You do know how many days there are in a week, doncha?

Hint - it's more than 6.

• (cs)
HeebyJeeby:
How the heck is that last one a WTF? It's only giving the option to repeat it on the same day of the month you chose or the placement of the day you chose (i.e. third Wednesday of every month).

CAPTCHA: causa - Causa you stupid!

LSK:
I'm not sure I understand the last purported error - I think they're just two separate options for reminder dates.

The third of any day can never be earlier than the 15th of any month. Wed. the 1st, 8th, 15th. It should have been the SECOND Wed. TRWTF is YOU!

• asdfasdfasdf (unregistered) in reply to md5sum
md5sum:
The third of any day can never be earlier than the 15th of any month. Wed. the 1st, 8th, 15th. It should have been the SECOND Wed. TRWTF is YOU!

It's not saying that the third wednesday is earlier than the 15th, it's saying (note radio buttons) pick one of the following two: "13th of every month" OR <- the important part "every 3rd wednesday of the month" (which is different and has no connection to it being the 13th)

• (cs) in reply to Bellinghman

Regarding the third Wednesday ...

It could be the Wednesday in the third week that is (at least partially) in the month. But then the Wednesday of the first week of that month would then have been in the previous month. I for one would have been distinctly unimpressed if I'd scheduled a meeting for the first Wednesday of every month, and had it occasionally occurring at the end of the previous month.

• Drew (unregistered)

TRWTF is that the UI is designed so badly that y'all find something to argue about. ;P

CAPTCHA: Ullamcorper. No, Illam not corper.

• (cs)

The pin pad is not a WTF. There are chips in debit cards now and there is a slot on the top of pad where the card is suppose to be inserted like that to read the chip.

• (cs)

Error when do frist post.

Successed!

• (cs) in reply to asdfasdfasdf
asdfasdfasdf:
It's not saying that the third wednesday is earlier than the 15th, it's saying (note radio buttons) pick one of the following two: "13th of every month" OR <- the important part "every 3rd wednesday of the month" (which is different and has no connection to it being the 13th)

The first appointment is on Wednesday 05/13/09.

And it's offering a monthly repeat.

So why the third Wednesday, not the second? It's picking the 13th of the month, because that's the same day as the original. If it wants to offer a monthly repeat, why is one option nice and sane and logical (such that it'd actually have picked the first entry), and the other one a setting that couldn't pick that first day?

This is why we're going WTF?

• Anonymous (unregistered)

I love the confused look on the face of the Tesco cashier - "why the hell is that guy taking a photo of the checkout??".

• (cs) in reply to DonkeyRyan

The WTF being that there is no slot for insertion at the top of the pad displayed -- it's at the bottom, the other way up.

And the last WTF: it usually initialises things to the same as the day you chose. If you selected the third Wednesday of the month, it should show that as an option (although in this case it should show "second Wednesday"). Just as it displays "13th of every month" because it's the 13th day of the month...

Did someone dumb down the Interblagosphere while I wasn't paying attention?

• (cs) in reply to DonkeyRyan
DonkeyRyan:
The pin pad is not a WTF. There are chips in debit cards now and there is a slot on the top of pad where the card is suppose to be inserted like that to read the chip.
Not in the top of that one. The slot's in the bottom, and the chip should therefore be at the top of the card, not the bottom.
• Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to dmi
dmi:
Did someone dumb down the Interblagosphere while I wasn't paying attention?
Yes - this happened about 10 years ago.
• It's Cold, eh? (unregistered)
"It's seriously gotten cold in Fargo these days," Kevin Gross writes, "seriously cold."
I've lived in Fargo. -196 is not bad for an early Spring afternoon.

Oh, that's -196 Kelvin.

Yeah, Fargo gets kinda cold sometimes.

• Nick (unregistered) in reply to Bellinghman
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• (cs)

TRWTF is Comic Sans -- a font I have deleted from my work machine because of all the company announcements are sent using it.

• Weekend Warrior (unregistered) in reply to md5sum
md5sum:
HeebyJeeby:
How the heck is that last one a WTF? It's only giving the option to repeat it on the same day of the month you chose or the placement of the day you chose (i.e. third Wednesday of every month).

CAPTCHA: causa - Causa you stupid!

LSK:
I'm not sure I understand the last purported error - I think they're just two separate options for reminder dates.

The third of any day can never be earlier than the 15th of any month. Wed. the 1st, 8th, 15th. It should have been the SECOND Wed. TRWTF is YOU!

That's a common misconception, easily disproven by the fact that I've had the first 4 Mondays in a month within the first working week of that month. TGIF!

CAPTCA: plaga. A plaga upon both of your houses for your pedantry!

• Crash Magnet (unregistered)

Ok, -196F is equal to -127C. So the embedded system can't handle -128?

Q:

1. There is 1LSB of noise in the analog circuit.
2. The ADC can't handle -128,
3. The programmer flubed the conversion from ADC units to degrees C
4. The programmer flubed the conversion from degrees K to degrees C
5. The programmer never tested the prototype at -198F.

A: #5 You need to test all corner conditions and know what the answer should be.

• Yazeran (unregistered) in reply to Nick
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• (cs)

Bah, self checkout systems. I utterly hate those and avoid them like the plague. Don't know about you all but personally, if they expect me to do the cashier's job at a store, they better be paying me for it.

I actually had a store employee once tell me why I don't use their self checkout instead of coming to her. Flat out told her "I don't work here."

• Matt (unregistered)

The card in the slot is great - that's clearly Tesco and those signs must be in all the stores like that - you couldn't correct it in the store as the text would be upside down if the sign was underneath the machine and orientated correctly, they must've had thousands of those printed. (I'm gutted that I haven't noticed that before - I use those machines in Tesco all the time... i'm a wtf - damn)

I guess the differences in how people interpret the last wtf are between those who regonise the program, have used it and therefore know what it should be doing and those (like me) who haven't.

I originally assumed that it is just static example text and assumed it's coincedence that the person choose the 13th of the month. (Oh well i'm part of the wtf again - damn).

• John (unregistered)

Can't read the post, maybe I should remove my sunglasses

• Craig (unregistered)

That GM one just baffles me. Here's a company who wants to sell you a vehicle, but you can't even get through the process of designing the vehicle because no one bothered to actually walk through the process.

The lack of quality and care that goes into today's software just pi**es me off.

• (cs) in reply to Bellinghman
Bellinghman:
asdfasdfasdf:
It's not saying that the third wednesday is earlier than the 15th, it's saying (note radio buttons) pick one of the following two: "13th of every month" OR <- the important part "every 3rd wednesday of the month" (which is different and has no connection to it being the 13th)

The first appointment is on Wednesday 05/13/09.

And it's offering a monthly repeat.

So why the third Wednesday, not the second? It's picking the 13th of the month, because that's the same day as the original. If it wants to offer a monthly repeat, why is one option nice and sane and logical (such that it'd actually have picked the first entry), and the other one a setting that couldn't pick that first day?

This is why we're going WTF?

Ok ok, breath deeply, calm down. This WTF is only funny because we do not have all the relevant information.

On the third Wednesday of the month, he scheduled a meeting for the 13th of the following month. He then set it to repeat so the software asked if he wanted it to be every 13th or every third Wednesday. Not intuitive, still a bit WTFish, or I may be totally off my kilter in this.

• (cs) in reply to Craig

The Real WTF is that you think it's just GM's web site that's broken.

• fennec (unregistered) in reply to Drain Bamage
Drain Bamage:
Great success!

This was a triumph. I'm making a note here.

• Steenbergh (unregistered) in reply to Yazeran
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• Anon (unregistered)

TRWTF is chip and pin and the fact that it always leads to an argument when I travel to Europe with my non-chip and pin US credit cards. So much for Visa/Mastercard/Amex being accepted world-wide. Not if you don't have a chip.

• Chuck (unregistered) in reply to Steenbergh
Steenbergh:
<counterrant>I wouldn't have to resort to using own date/time functions, if all the date/time processing offered by many an environment wasn't based on the US exclusively, or used localization that defaults to US at the drop of a hat.</counterrant>

There are non-US ways of doing dates and times?

• (cs) in reply to Kermos
Kermos:
Bah, self checkout systems. I utterly hate those and avoid them like the plague. Don't know about you all but personally, if they expect *me* to do the cashier's job at a store, they better be paying me for it.

They are paying you for it, by being able to keep lower prices. Some people do not seem to understand this.

Kermos:
I actually had a store employee once tell me why I don't use their self checkout instead of coming to her. Flat out told her "I don't work here."

Yeah. Gimme personal service and higher prices. I don't want to save money.

The gas-pump image also has a rather large arrow obscuring the O from "start button" and it makes me wonder why it's at all needed. I mean the start button is already the largest button on the keypad. But I guess they have a lot of maroons pumping for gas there.

• F (unregistered) in reply to Chuck

Yes. They're generally referred to as "logical".

• asdfasdfasdf (unregistered) in reply to Kermos
Kermos:
Bah, self checkout systems. I utterly hate those and avoid them like the plague. Don't know about you all but personally, if they expect *me* to do the cashier's job at a store, they better be paying me for it.

I actually had a store employee once tell me why I don't use their self checkout instead of coming to her. Flat out told her "I don't work here."

Some days I feel like that, but if I only have a few things I know I can get through the self-checkout process quicker without having to deal with a greasy cashier with an attention span as long as the zits on his or her face. Beep-beep, swipe, rip, bag, gone. The thing that annoys me about the self-checkout devices usually is they're so goddamn slow. You swipe one thing, have the other one sitting there in the laser ready to go, and the machine just waits... waits... waits... beep. The machines at the cashier are faster, but still not fast enough:

Many years ago (my first legit job), I worked as a cashier at the townie store, and I used to try and ring people up as quickly as possible, I actually had people tell me "slow down and smile instead of looking so serious". I would wonder/ask "wtf, don't you wanna get out of here? I sure do" It was odd to me. Anyway, the register machines definitely had a limited speed at which they could process items through the scanner, slower than a human (that was paying attention) could swipe things through it. It's like old computers where you could type faster than it could draw the characters on the screen.

• Frank (unregistered)

Nonsense. You won't find any evidence of lower prices due to self-checkout systems. Lower margins, MAYBE.

Self-checkout systems are nothing more than the express lanes of the future. They are MUCH faster than waiting in line if you only have a few items, but are otherwise completely worthless to the customer.

The gas-pump image also has a rather large arrow obscuring the O from "start button" and it makes me wonder why it's at all needed. I mean the start button is already the largest button on the keypad. But I guess they have a lot of maroons pumping for gas there.

Actually, although it's hard to tell from the angle, I believe the size of the start button is the same as the other yellow buttons on the panel, it's just vertically orientated rather than horizontally. It's possible that people find it hard to read the text. Not that adding a sign with similarly orientated text is going to help that much.

• NutDriverLefty (unregistered) in reply to Craig
Craig:
That GM one just baffles me. ... The lack of quality and care that goes into today's software just pi**es me off.

At least you didn't have to pay thirty thousand bucks for the web app.

• Michael (unregistered) in reply to It's Cold, eh?
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• forgottenlord (unregistered)

It isn't outside the realm of reasonable to have chosen two very distinct days to do mailouts. Maybe they intentionally picked the third Wednesday and the 13th for the explicit reason of "they aren't the same day", thereby ensuring that they never have a day where they have to do the work of both mailouts on the same day.

The last one is a curiosity ('cause it is weird), but not a WTF.

• (cs)

Kevin Gross thought that ordering the Blizzard at DQ meant a nice icy treat. Little did he know that when they said Blizzard, they meant it.

• (cs) in reply to Anon
TRWTF is chip and pin and the fact that it always leads to an argument when I travel to Europe with my non-chip and pin US credit cards. So much for Visa/Mastercard/Amex being accepted world-wide. Not if you don't have a chip.

Joke's on them, because 99% of the time, they'll accept transactions in fallback mode-- where a card with a chip has it's chip damaged or unreadable. The staff is just poorly trained, they should take the card.

• Maj najm (unregistered) in reply to asdfasdfasdf
asdfasdfasdf:
Kermos:
Bah, self checkout systems. I utterly hate those and avoid them like the plague. Don't know about you all but personally, if they expect *me* to do the cashier's job at a store, they better be paying me for it.

I actually had a store employee once tell me why I don't use their self checkout instead of coming to her. Flat out told her "I don't work here."

Some days I feel like that, but if I only have a few things I know I can get through the self-checkout process quicker without having to deal with a greasy cashier with an attention span as long as the zits on his or her face. Beep-beep, swipe, rip, bag, gone. The thing that annoys me about the self-checkout devices usually is they're so goddamn slow. You swipe one thing, have the other one sitting there in the laser ready to go, and the machine just waits... waits... waits... beep. The machines at the cashier are faster, but still not fast enough:

Many years ago (my first legit job), I worked as a cashier at the townie store, and I used to try and ring people up as quickly as possible, I actually had people tell me "slow down and smile instead of looking so serious". I would wonder/ask "wtf, don't you wanna get out of here? I sure do" It was odd to me. Anyway, the register machines definitely had a limited speed at which they could process items through the scanner, slower than a human (that was paying attention) could swipe things through it. It's like old computers where you could type faster than it could draw the characters on the screen.

Here in sweden, in self checout systems are implemented with a barcode scanner you take with you so you scan all the items as you put them in yoru backpack / bags. Then you just put the scanner in a socket and pay on the way out. Seems way better than having to stand and scan it at the actual checkout. ;)

• (cs)

The Sainsbury's self-checkouts at the moment suffer from a few flaws of their own:

The "use your own bags" option often fails outright. Press "I want to use my own bags", wait for it to notice, put bags on bagging area like it asks, press done, scan and bag first item, have it say "unexpected item in bagging area" and need overriding by staff.

After using a self-checkout it prints off special offer vouchers which are NOT redeemable at self-checkouts. Why did they put the self-checkouts in if they don't want you to use them?

When you're done and going through the menu to tell it you want to pay by card, the voice is always one step behind the screen and what you're doing. By the time the screen tells you to insert your card the voice says "please select payment method". When the screen says "follow instructions on the chip and pin device" (which says "please wait" or "enter pin"), the voice says "please insert your card".

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• Anon (unregistered) in reply to halcyon1234
halcyon1234:
TRWTF is chip and pin and the fact that it always leads to an argument when I travel to Europe with my non-chip and pin US credit cards. So much for Visa/Mastercard/Amex being accepted world-wide. Not if you don't have a chip.

Joke's on them, because 99% of the time, they'll accept transactions in fallback mode-- where a card with a chip has it's chip damaged or unreadable. The staff is just poorly trained, they should take the card.

Hence the argument part. You try convincing the poorly trained staff that they can, in fact, take your card. Especially if the manager on duty is just as badly trained. It's not a problem in big stores, hotel, etc. But you try it at smaller stores. YMMV.

• racerx_is_alive (unregistered)

The sunglasses one makes sense to me- ever since I picked up a pair of polarized glasses, there have been probably half a dozen times where I would be looking at a screen, trying to figure out why it was black, or why it was covered in rainbow swirls (like oil on the ground) when I realized I had my glasses on.

They probably put that text on the screen because the cashiers were so tired of people telling them that "the screen is broken."

• (cs) in reply to Anonymous
Anonymous:
I love the confused look on the face of the Tesco cashier - "why the hell is that guy taking a photo of the checkout??".

It's a great look. I think she's a fellow shopper though, and thinking: "What is that guy doing with his phone? Oh he's taking a picture. Why's he taking a picture of me? Is he a stalker? Maybe he's an internet pornographer and is going to put my picture on his porn sites? Oh no he's taking a picture of the checkout. Why's he doing that? Oh no he must be a terrorist! Quick quick everybody get out there's a suicide bomber here taking a picture. Help where's the police? Aaaaargh."

• (cs) in reply to racerx_is_alive
racerx_is_alive:
The sunglasses one makes sense to me- ever since I picked up a pair of polarized glasses, there have been probably half a dozen times where I would be looking at a screen, trying to figure out why it was black, or why it was covered in rainbow swirls (like oil on the ground) when I realized I had my glasses on.

They probably put that text on the screen because the cashiers were so tired of people telling them that "the screen is broken."

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