The Daily WTF: Curious Perversions in Information Technology

Leak · 2014-02-24 Reply Admin

Schiwerigkeitmacher? FETt?! ZEhN?!!

goran

2014-02-24 Reply Admin

CAPTCHA: acsi. The great grandfather of scsi.

2014-02-24 Reply Admin

I hope you realise the appalling consequences if someone should translate the above. Also that this site is not read by Germans...

beginner_ · 2014-02-25 Reply Admin

So the typical story about outsourcing to cheap countries ending up being more expensive than local production...

2014-02-25 Reply Admin

Oh come on. Over time, names tend to become grammatically incorrect;-)

2014-02-25 Reply Admin

This is from Monty Python famous sketch "The deadly joke". (Season 1, Episoden 1, IIRC)

and BTW

"SISS IS NOTT FUNNY!

Ha Ha Ha Ha, Aaaaarrrghh"

DES · 2014-02-25 Reply Admin

[quote user="da Doctah"][quote user="Mick"]I found a copy of War & Peace on the liquidation table out front, published in Russia (info on the back of the title page and all that). Months later when I decided to actually open it up and try to use it to learn Russian, the first two pages of the novel itself were in French.[/quote]

TRWTF: trying to learn Russian from War & Peace.

da Doctah · 2014-02-25 Reply Admin

DES:
da Doctah:
I found a copy of War & Peace on the liquidation table out front, published in Russia (info on the back of the title page and all that). Months later when I decided to actually open it up and try to use it to learn Russian, the first two pages of the novel itself were in French.

TRWTF: trying to learn Russian from War & Peace.

Maybe if Tolstoy had stuck with his own language it could have worked. That's how I learned Middle English from The Canterbury Tales; got an edition with M.E. on the left page and Modern English equivalent on the right. Read the left side until I needed a translation, looked it up, then switched back and continued. When I started I was switching once or twice a line, but within about twenty pages it was down to once a page or less.

Probably helps that it rhymes.

2014-02-25 Reply Admin

sigh...:
PoPSiCLe:
I call fake. Even incompetent Eastern European factory workers need to have basic understanding of the components they work with (or, at least I assume).

The beginning of all WTFs.

Which reminds me of certain space mission that failed because somehow, english speaking engineers screwed up because they forgot to check the distance metrics! (using feet or metres?). Not lost in translation, yet it happened.

2014-02-25 Reply Admin

Looks like an ID-ten-T error at the translator's office...

2014-02-25 Reply Admin

Kempeth:
Looks like an ID-zehn-T error at the translator's office...

FTFY

2014-02-25 Reply Admin

Biggest problem I have is with Asian sub-contractor.

When I say "working as per the specification in two weeks", they always translate to "not working anything like the specification, if at all, in about a month"

2014-02-25 Reply Admin

chubertdev:
da Doctah:
Mick:
Mea Culpa - I didn't realise Green was the official standard for sarcasm.....
My Bad. Oops.
It's not. Green is the official standard for adultery. Or is that just in China?

Best personal translation story: back when Borders Books still existed, I found a copy of War & Peace on the liquidation table out front, published in Russia (info on the back of the title page and all that). Months later when I decided to actually open it up and try to use it to learn Russian, the first two pages of the novel itself were in French.

No, that's scarlet.

Also, did you figure out the reason for the book having French? Was it a French distributor, possibly?

The book starts with a dinner party for Russian nobility, who viewed French culture as something to emulate. I haven't seen a Russian edition, but I can imagine that there would be a lot of French phrases there, especially in spoken dialogue. There's likely to be a bit less of it once the war starts.

2014-02-25 Reply Admin

OMGWTFBBQ:
Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!

You featured this on the article page? What is this, TDWMD?

2014-02-25 Reply Admin

Herr Schmuckliser:
Outsourcing is ALWAYS cheaper and ALWAYS more efficient then having the product produced in a normal first world country. Never mind the weeks spent in lost translations, the delays because of 12 hour timezone shifts, the lack of caring in producing the product by the outsourced monkeys, the months of wasted effort fixing the shitty fucking products produced by these monkeys back at the head office in a FIRST WORLD country. Yes it's the better option - stated by a number of CIOs I've worked for who funny enough have all been fired after laying off all their competent employees.

My dad likes to talk about parts outsourced for use in avionics equipment. China gladly sent back parts that cost a fraction of what it cost to make in the US. When they got the parts to the US they found far too many were out of tolerance so they asked China to tighten the tolerances. China's response was they would have to buy the machines to manufacture to that tolerance and the price was suddenly the same as what it would cost to manufacture in the US... plus shipping.

2014-02-25 Reply Admin

Were they using Gtranslate: "When is the Nunstück git and Slotermeyer? Yes! Beiherhund the Or Flipperwaldt gersput!" ?

2014-02-25 Reply Admin

Hey, that's not funny! dies

2014-02-25 Reply Admin

mortfurd:
Hannes:
Maybe we germans aren't the funniest people in the world, but it doesn't help much that you got the joke wrong, either. It's: "Treffen sich zwei Jäger. Beide tot." And no, that's still not funny.
And I wonder who that german comedian worth seeing should be?
Michael Mittermeier

I misread that as a mistranslation of Michael McIntyre...

NMe · 2014-02-25 Reply Admin

faoileag:
NMe:
What kind of idiot pronounces FET as "fett", even in German? Especially when it comes to outsourcing it makes no sense at all to pronounce it as a word instead of letter by letter.
It's quite common to pronounce acronyms with enough vowels at the right places as a word instead of letter by letter.
NATO for instance is usually pronounced as a word instead of as "N" "A" "T" "O".

Also, it is not uncommon to give acronyms that can't easily be pronounced as a word a nickname for the purpose. "The Beeb" for "The BBC" comes to mind here.

Don't get me wrong, I do the same. But only when talking to people who will understand what I mean. If I'd get told specifically beforehand that I need to make clear how FET applies to my project to a foreign person I'd make sure I'd either write it down, use the full acronym at least once or spell out the letters when talking about it at least once. Not doing that when there is a language barrier (which is usually even the case with interpreters) is just asking for trouble, especially in case of a project where apparently they've already berated the techs for trying to think for themselves. Whether or not that was called for, they created an environment where anything weird will just be built anyway.

foo AKA fooo:

If there is anyone to blame here, it's Schwierigkeitmacher, definitely not the Asians.
Definitely not the Asians. (Not that far East European, you know.)

Force of habit. :P

chubertdev · 2014-02-25 Reply Admin

Mike L:
Herr Schmuckliser:
Outsourcing is ALWAYS cheaper and ALWAYS more efficient then having the product produced in a normal first world country. Never mind the weeks spent in lost translations, the delays because of 12 hour timezone shifts, the lack of caring in producing the product by the outsourced monkeys, the months of wasted effort fixing the shitty fucking products produced by these monkeys back at the head office in a FIRST WORLD country. Yes it's the better option - stated by a number of CIOs I've worked for who funny enough have all been fired after laying off all their competent employees.

My dad likes to talk about parts outsourced for use in avionics equipment. China gladly sent back parts that cost a fraction of what it cost to make in the US. When they got the parts to the US they found far too many were out of tolerance so they asked China to tighten the tolerances. China's response was they would have to buy the machines to manufacture to that tolerance and the price was suddenly the same as what it would cost to manufacture in the US... plus shipping.

It's almost as if you get what you pay for.

Reminds me of someone's comments from an article a few months back: "We paid $25k for this system that doesn't work!" "Ok, I can build it for $50k." "But we only paid $25k for the last version!" "And it didn't work. I can also build you a system that doesn't work for $25k."

2014-02-25 Reply Admin

It's a Fehler

2014-02-25 Reply Admin

foo AKA fooo:
CigarDoug:
I would guess it was a government regulation, not a company policy, that drove this. The kind of people who invent regulations requiring instructions to be written in extra languages are the kind of people who lack the intellectual capacity to realize that there might be valid exceptions. They think the government is right, all the time, and that the government knows far more about how to run a business than the people who actually run them.
Funny how anti-government people like yourself can take a story about a corporate WTF and turn it into a diatribe about governments. Sure, it may be a government regulation, or it may just as well be a corporate regulation to translate everthing. We aren't told this, but you can only read what fits into your world view, can't you?

I am not anti-government, just anti-government-too-big-for-its-britches. I think the odds are fifty-fifty whether it is a government mandate or a corporate policy.

With stories like this, it is easy to believe it is a government policy, or that such policies exist: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1360147/Taxpayers-fury-census-forms-printed-57-languages-including-Tagalog-Igbo-Shona.html

foo AKA fooo:
Then you can go home and tell your friends: "Today I read another story about government screwup ..."

FWIW in my experience larger corporations are just as good as governments at screwing up, over-bureaucatizing etc. It's not a matter of being public or private, it's a function of their size.

Stipulated. The same incompetent, lazy people in management positions in the private sector are found in government. Which backs up my assertion that government should NOT be trusted to do things better done by the private sector, because the government employee lacks even the incentives of (a) trying to make a profit and (b) worry about getting fired.

2014-02-25 Reply Admin

foo AKA fooo:
CigarDoug:
80 million man-hours to comply with ObamaCare, 24 million for Dodd-Frank. The list goes on.
Sadly, I am nearly convinced that the country I was born in and was always proud of, is no longer populated with a majority of rational people.
How many million man-hours wasted due to short-cuts taken and mistakes made by any large corporation? (I could say Microsoft as the obvious example, but you can really pick just any one.)

Oh yeah, that doesn't count, because that's all voluntary, right? All customers are informed before buying "This product will cost you XXX hours due to its hidden bugs." and make the informed decision to buy it regardless because they like to waste their time.

If that's what you think, I'm not very interested in your definition of rational.

Yes, there is a difference between voluntarily buying a product and the government forcing you, under threat of jail, to comply with a mandate written by people with zero experience in that business.

Are you actually ADVOCATING for government programs that costs billions, create an excessive administrative burden for companies (that then pass along the cost of that burden to their customers), and in most cases, doesn't even SOLVE the problem it was passed to address?

Or do you have examples to share of a government program that actually solves a problem more efficiently than the free market and doesn't have a ridiculous price tag and/or regulatory burden? I can't think of one, myself.

chubertdev · 2014-02-25 Reply Admin

Governments are simply corporations run as a monopoly.

2014-02-25 Reply Admin

nitePhyyre:
Outside of your pseudo-libertarian delusion where everything the government does is incompetent at best and evil at worst, and where all the truly righteous, liberty-loving, free-men drive to work on their gas guzzling unicorns, no country is going to pass a law requiring all manuals to be printed in foreign languages.

I'm not sure what a pseudo-libertarian is. Libertarians want as little government as possible, and I go along with them for the most part.

But yes, speaking from personal experience and using my unique skills of being able to read the news, MOST of what government does is wasteful, bloated, not cost-effective, and many times a duplication of effort at the city, state, and federal level, and then again a duplication of effort between several federal programs.

The government steals from me and you in the form of taxes, fees, surcharges (direct) and regulations of business that passes the cost on to us (indirect). I want the government to stop trying to do things that the free market already does better. That puts more money back in your pocket and mine. So let me ask you, why all the hostility? How am I hurting you by trying to rein in the size of the government?

nitePhyyre:
And we spent nearly 12 BILLION man hours watching porn.

Yes, but most of those hours were spent by federal employees, so it's not relevant. http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/sec-pornography-employees-spent-hours-surfing-porn-sites/story?id=10452544

nitePhyyre:
How much did not having Dodd-Frank cost? Oh, right 30 TRILLION dollars in bailout money.
And you think that rational people should be against this, and that there aren't many rational people left?

Hi Pot! I'd like you to meet my good friend Kettle.

I'm sorry, I must have forgotten my earlier post where I advocated for TARP. If you asked me then, I would have told you let the companies go into bankruptcy and they would be solvent again by now. You should stop making the false assumption that libertartian/conservative == Big Government Republican or Democrat.

Actually, I can't see how your could possibly make that assumption at all. Corporate Welfare/Coporate Cronyism is one of the biggest problems of all. And that is NOT the same as a free market economy, despite what you read on the Huffington Post.

2014-02-25 Reply Admin

chubertdev:
Mike L:
Herr Schmuckliser:
Outsourcing is ALWAYS cheaper and ALWAYS more efficient then having the product produced in a normal first world country. Never mind the weeks spent in lost translations, the delays because of 12 hour timezone shifts, the lack of caring in producing the product by the outsourced monkeys, the months of wasted effort fixing the shitty fucking products produced by these monkeys back at the head office in a FIRST WORLD country. Yes it's the better option - stated by a number of CIOs I've worked for who funny enough have all been fired after laying off all their competent employees.

My dad likes to talk about parts outsourced for use in avionics equipment. China gladly sent back parts that cost a fraction of what it cost to make in the US. When they got the parts to the US they found far too many were out of tolerance so they asked China to tighten the tolerances. China's response was they would have to buy the machines to manufacture to that tolerance and the price was suddenly the same as what it would cost to manufacture in the US... plus shipping.

It's almost as if you get what you pay for.

Reminds me of someone's comments from an article a few months back: "We paid $25k for this system that doesn't work!" "Ok, I can build it for $50k." "But we only paid $25k for the last version!" "And it didn't work. I can also build you a system that doesn't work for $25k."

You're right, of course; the problem is that the customer expects you to take their $25k system that doesn't work and do $25k worth of fixes to make it work. They'll not be happy to hear that their $25k system is a complete loss and you intend to start over from scratch (costing them lots more).

chubertdev · 2014-02-25 Reply Admin

anonymous:
You're right, of course; the problem is that the customer expects you to take their $25k system that doesn't work and do $25k worth of fixes to make it work. They'll not be happy to hear that their $25k system is a complete loss and you intend to start over from scratch (costing them lots more).

And then you hand them an economics book on sunk cost.

2014-02-25 Reply Admin

So the boards had extra flux capacitance?

2014-02-26 Reply Admin

foo AKA fooo:
OMGWTFBBQ:
Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
You featured this on the article page? What is this, TDWMD?

This is from Monty Python famous sketch "The deadly joke". (Season 1, Episode 1, IIRC)

2014-02-26 Reply Admin

Tip of an iceberg, I assume...

2014-02-26 Reply Admin

Mike L:
Herr Schmuckliser:
Outsourcing is ALWAYS cheaper and ALWAYS more efficient then having the product produced in a normal first world country. Never mind the weeks spent in lost translations, the delays because of 12 hour timezone shifts, the lack of caring in producing the product by the outsourced monkeys, the months of wasted effort fixing the shitty fucking products produced by these monkeys back at the head office in a FIRST WORLD country. Yes it's the better option - stated by a number of CIOs I've worked for who funny enough have all been fired after laying off all their competent employees.

My dad likes to talk about parts outsourced for use in avionics equipment. China gladly sent back parts that cost a fraction of what it cost to make in the US. When they got the parts to the US they found far too many were out of tolerance so they asked China to tighten the tolerances. China's response was they would have to buy the machines to manufacture to that tolerance and the price was suddenly the same as what it would cost to manufacture in the US... plus shipping.

The real WTF here is of course not thrashing out the details of the tolerances in the specification that were sent to China in the first place -- complete with stringent penalty clauses if these tolerances were not met.

2014-02-26 Reply Admin

CigarDoug:
foo AKA fooo:
CigarDoug:
I would guess it was a government regulation, not a company policy, that drove this. The kind of people who invent regulations requiring instructions to be written in extra languages are the kind of people who lack the intellectual capacity to realize that there might be valid exceptions. They think the government is right, all the time, and that the government knows far more about how to run a business than the people who actually run them.
Funny how anti-government people like yourself can take a story about a corporate WTF and turn it into a diatribe about governments. Sure, it may be a government regulation, or it may just as well be a corporate regulation to translate everthing. We aren't told this, but you can only read what fits into your world view, can't you?
I am not anti-government, just anti-government-too-big-for-its-britches. I think the odds are fifty-fifty whether it is a government mandate or a corporate policy.
With stories like this, it is easy to believe it is a government policy, or that such policies exist: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1360147/Taxpayers-fury-census-forms-printed-57-languages-including-Tagalog-Igbo-Shona.html
foo AKA fooo:
Then you can go home and tell your friends: "Today I read another story about government screwup ..."

FWIW in my experience larger corporations are just as good as governments at screwing up, over-bureaucatizing etc. It's not a matter of being public or private, it's a function of their size.

Stipulated. The same incompetent, lazy people in management positions in the private sector are found in government. Which backs up my assertion that government should NOT be trusted to do things better done by the private sector, because the government employee lacks even the incentives of (a) trying to make a profit and (b) worry about getting fired.

When the railways and water supply etc. in the UK were in the control of the government, they ran tolerably well and cost a modest amount. As soon as they were privatised, they increased greatly in price and the value of the service provided dropped considerably. The reason for this is that private companies are run by people who pay themselves disgustingly obscene quantities of money for basically being complete parasites.

A local council / government provided scheme for caring for the elderly in my local community was recently privatised. The service to the clients was increased in price, the number of staff employed to service them was dropped, and the salary paid to the actual carers themselves was reduced. True story -- my wife is one of those carers. Go figger.

2014-02-26 Reply Admin

You are talking about the mars climate orbiter that crashed into mars. It was a joint project of Jet Propulsion Laboratory and Lockheed Martin.

The contract between then said the units must be SI but the base station was using pound-seconds instead of newton-seconds when the orbiter was about to enter orbital insertion. That's 1 to 0.2 ratio so an 80% of error.

The orbital insertion maneuver was to set it on 226 Km altitude with a minimum survival altitude of 80 Km. At the end it entered at 50 Km altitude and disintegrated due to atmospheric stress.

Two engineers have already spotted the trajectory problems but their objections were dismissed.

2014-02-26 Reply Admin

Passing by:
sigh...:
PoPSiCLe:
I call fake. Even incompetent Eastern European factory workers need to have basic understanding of the components they work with (or, at least I assume).

The beginning of all WTFs.

Which reminds me of certain space mission that failed because somehow, english speaking engineers screwed up because they forgot to check the distance metrics! (using feet or metres?). Not lost in translation, yet it happened.

The former post was a reply to this one.

2014-02-26 Reply Admin

...which, ironically, could work perfectly depending on the pinout and what the circuit demands of the diode.

2014-02-26 Reply Admin

mortfurd:
Steve The Cynic:
mortfurd:
With all due respect(*), the WTF is strong in *you* here. Nobody, not even you, thought to tell the epoxy-adders that the untidy appearance of the parts was correct(**), and so they can reasonably be excused for showing what looks like a certain level of pride in the appearance of their work.
(*) That is, not very much, sorry. (**) If someone had told them about it, you'd have mentioned it in order to accentuate the WTF-ness of the WTF. You didn't mention it, it didn't happen.

Sorry to disappoint you, jackass.

It wasn't my job to tell the workers back there what to do. I was technician who took over from another technician. There was never any contact between me and whoever was at the fixing station. Until the day things got screwed up, I didn't even know about the fixing station - fixing was done after all the tests and alignment was finished. Boards left our section and went into storage. The fixing station pulled boards from storage as needed.

Strictly speaking, it wasn't even my job to find out WTF had happened, but I went and found out anyway because someone else's screwup had made it look like I hadn't done my job.

The fixing had been carried out for months by other workers, and none of them had ever gotten the briliant idea of straightening the coils out, so I figure the guy in charge of that section usually had things under control.

4. This is Germany we're talking about. Manipulating stuff without proper knowledge and/or orders to do so, breaking the stuff in the process WILL. GET. YOU. FIRED. Just putting radios together like Lego doesn't qualify you to judge whether the coils are broken or not, if it's not your job don't touch it.

TRWTF is the woman who saw something odd and went ahead to "fix it" instead of doing the right thing and ask first.

chubertdev · 2014-02-26 Reply Admin

QJo:
The real WTF here is of course not thrashing out the details of the tolerances in the specification that were sent to China in the first place -- complete with stringent penalty clauses if these tolerances were not met.

Most jobs do not work that way, unfortunately for people like us. You have PHB sending specs overseas with no technical detail or requirements, and what they get back is bound to be a Frankenstein, which in-house devs are supposed to support. I'm glad that I don't have to touch anything like that anymore, I've learned my lesson.

2014-02-26 Reply Admin

Anon:
You are talking about the mars climate orbiter that crashed into mars. It was a joint project of Jet Propulsion Laboratory and Lockheed Martin.
The contract between then said the units must be SI but the base station was using pound-seconds instead of newton-seconds when the orbiter was about to enter orbital insertion. That's 1 to 0.2 ratio so an 80% of error.

The orbital insertion maneuver was to set it on 226 Km altitude with a minimum survival altitude of 80 Km. At the end it entered at 50 Km altitude and disintegrated due to atmospheric stress.

Two engineers have already spotted the trajectory problems but their objections were dismissed.

You say the engineers' objections were dismissed?

You don't mean the engineers were dismissed?

WTF kind of company is that?

A real company would fire the engineers, like the one who fired those who warned that the selected O-rings would be unreliable when a space shuttle was launched in freezing weather.

2014-02-27 Reply Admin

You've obviously never worked for the government, where everything becomes an acronym if it even gets close to being pronounceable.

2014-02-28 Reply Admin

isaturnine:
...which, ironically, could work perfectly depending on the pinout and what the circuit demands of the diode.

There was nothing ironic about that. It's a well-known electronics fact that a transistor will serve as a perfectly good diode when its switching function is not needed. Maybe not the exact diode you needed (not all diodes are created equal, nor all transistors for that matter), but if you're looking at low voltage and current it'll probably do just fine.

2014-02-28 Reply Admin

Have you ever worked for a living, or have you just been a volunteer or community organizer?

In any job, when you are told, "Do this," you're expected to do that, not go clean the floors, vacuum the carpets, or recalibrate the flux capacitors when in your mind they need recalibrating.

What you call "taking a bit of pride in your work" will, in many situations, get you fired. The people who were told to epoxy a part to the board should just epoxy the part to the board. No one should have to tell them not to mess with the wiring.

2014-02-28 Reply Admin

Steve The Cynic:
mortfurd:
2. I was adjusting the filters on the output side of the trasmitters one day. On the radios at that time, that meant stretching and twisting the coils in the filter. Radios started failing tests on the transmitter - too much power output outside that proper band, or too much wasted power to generate the required output. Both are signs of improperly adjusted filters. Since I was doing the filters, I knew damned good and well that they were done right when they left my bench. I went over to testing and picked up some of the failed units. All of my carefully stretched and twisted coils had been twisted and unstretched back into the original (useless) shape. You could see where the varnish was wrinkled from where I had adjusted things, but the otherwise the parts looked like they'd never been adjusted. What had happened was this: The coils have to be "fixed" with epoxy to hold their adjusted position. One of the women who was supposed fix the coils was straightening them and then fixing them. She thought the adjusted coils looked horribly untidy, and straightened them out. I got to redo a day's production because of that. You couldn't just readjust the coils, either. These were the longer ones that were filled with epoxy. Some of the smaller coils you just crack the epoxy off the outside and go on, but not these. You had to replace the bastards (all three on each board) and then adjust them.
With all due respect(*), the WTF is strong in *you* here. Nobody, not even you, thought to tell the epoxy-adders that the untidy appearance of the parts was correct(**), and so they can reasonably be excused for showing what looks like a certain level of pride in the appearance of their work.
(*) That is, not very much, sorry. (**) If someone had told them about it, you'd have mentioned it in order to accentuate the WTF-ness of the WTF. You didn't mention it, it didn't happen.

The above is in response to this. Sorry, forgot to hit quote.

2014-02-28 Reply Admin

This should be a featured comment, make it so!

2014-03-03 Reply Admin

VictorSierraGolf:
4. This is Germany we're talking about. Manipulating stuff without proper knowledge and/or orders to do so, breaking the stuff in the process WILL. GET. YOU. FIRED. Just putting radios together like Lego doesn't qualify you to judge whether the coils are broken or not, if it's not your job don't touch it.
TRWTF is the woman who saw something odd and went ahead to "fix it" instead of doing the right thing and ask first.

Correct, this is Germany - where it is next to impossible to fire people. Employment laws are much more in favor of the employees here. I don't know where you get the idea that a screw up will result in termination.

2014-03-04 Reply Admin

mortfurd:
VictorSierraGolf:
4. This is Germany we're talking about. Manipulating stuff without proper knowledge and/or orders to do so, breaking the stuff in the process WILL. GET. YOU. FIRED. Just putting radios together like Lego doesn't qualify you to judge whether the coils are broken or not, if it's not your job don't touch it.
TRWTF is the woman who saw something odd and went ahead to "fix it" instead of doing the right thing and ask first.
Correct, this is Germany - where it is next to impossible to fire people. Employment laws are much more in favor of the employees here. I don't know where you get the idea that a screw up will result in termination.

He's probably thinking of the Germany of the 1940s, when "fixing" things that you weren't supposed to touch would GET. YOU. SHOT.

2014-03-06 Reply Admin

mortfurd:
OMGWTFBBQ:
Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
Entschuldigung? WTF? Is that supposed to be in German or did Google Translate puk?

It's the funniest joke in the world translated into German, from the first episode of Monty Python's Flying Circus. Sheesh, you just can't get the geeks these days.

2014-03-13 Reply Admin

Zener is a German-language surname from Austria. Hence the German for "Zener" is "Zener".

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